AB KN Energies (KNE1L) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 30, 2021

Unknown / Unmapped LT Energy Oil, Gas and Consumable Fuels earnings 42 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Emilija Ivanauskaite

attendee
#1

Good morning, dear listeners. Welcome to Klaipedos nafta meeting with investors. I'm Emilija from Nasdaq Vilnius, and I'm delighted to be the moderator for the day's event. We will start with a presentation from the management, which will be followed by the Q&A session. As always, I encourage everyone of you to ask questions during or after the presentation in the question box of your screen. With that said, I'm pleased to introduce today's presenters, the Chief Executive Officer, Darius Silenskis; and the Chief Financial Officer, Mindaugas Kveksas. Dear guests, please, the floor is yours, and good luck.

Darius Silenskis

executive
#2

Thank you, Emilija. Good morning to everybody. So as after each quarter, we would like to present today briefly our results and the key highlights of KN Group. So I will start from a usual slide, about our mission and vision. Here, it's worth to underline that company is in process of revising its strategy to reflect recent, I would say, significant changes in, especially the oil segment. Nevertheless, our mission and vision remains the same. And we would like to become a top LNG terminals operator worldwide and the most competitive oil and refined products handling hub in the Baltic region. Talking about the main announcements, which have been published during Q3. Here, I won't read all of them, but one of the key one was announcement of the public procurement of FSRU, floating storage and regasification unit. It also -- we had some changes in our Management Board. And one of the Board members has been replaced by other foreign Board member. Also, we had an achievement -- significant achievement in our global development business by becoming an operator of 2 fully operational LNG terminals worldwide. And as well, there was some changes in National Energy Regulatory Council, which approved and adopted decisions on the fixed and variable components of liquefied natural gas regasification and reloading services. It's also worth to mention that on 1st of October, new gas year has started. And we began it with 6 terminal users, both from Lithuania and foreign countries who already booked LNG terminal capacities, totally 8 terawatt hours, which is approximately 8 conventional big cargoes. So probably that's all from the key highlights. It's also worth to mention that we've been in a latest index of good governance, Lithuanian Governance Coordination Centre rated KN one of the highest scores A, the maximum is a A+. So we are doing well. And in the field of good governance scale maintains this high rating for already several years. And I think we can move with the results. So I will pass Mindaugas microphone to you. So please.

Mindaugas Kveksas

executive
#3

Thank you, Darius. And now, I will proceed with the overview of the financial results for the third quarter of 2021. And the single most significant event in quarter 3 was the recognition of the impairment loss for our oil terminal segment -- our oil terminal business segment. This is actually not the event by itself, but rather the indication of events and conditions that existed at the end of the -- at the reporting date, namely at the 30th of September 2021. So as it is the requirement of the international financial reporting standards, we are reviewing for indications of the impairment at each reporting date. And if any indications are present, we are performing an impairment test. So we recognize the 2 main indications for the impairment. And one of them being a long-term decline. As we recognize now, a long-term decline in revenue resulting from sanctions imposed on the Belarusian clients, and the last cargoes we had from Belarusian clients were in January 2021. And another condition or another indicator for the impairment is anticipated lower transshipment of heavy fuel oil products in the future due to the fact that plans by our key customer in Lithuania were announced on future investments that will result in -- as we anticipate in lower transshipment volumes. So consequently, as according to the requirements of the IFRS, we performed the test by assessing the recoverable amount of the cash-generating unit, which is our Klaipeda oil terminal. And we determined the recoverable amount as the higher of 2, namely the fair value less cost of disposal and its value in use. And based on the results of the impairment testing, we identified that the value in use actually was the higher figure. So the impairment loss was estimated with reference to the value in use amount. So as a result, in quarter 3, on 31st of August 2021, we recognized the total impairment loss of EUR 51 million, which net of deferred tax -- deferred income tax effect and also taking into account the smaller, lower depreciation costs for September, resulting from the recognition of impairment 1 month prior. The total net effect was EUR 43.1 million. And here in the table, we are providing -- sorry, the impact on the indicators in the financial statements. So we had no impairment loss being recognized in third quarter. The profit loss for the period, we estimate would have been the loss of EUR 11.7 million. And we had the practice of calculating the adjusted net result, which reflects the adjustments that are also recognized in our dividend policy. And the adjusted profit or loss -- or actually, the loss for the period would have been around EUR 1.1 million. This impairment had no effect on the EBITDA. So further information about the impairment has been disclosed in the interim financial statements, which we published today. Now I shall proceed over the next slide, which shows the trends in revenue, net loss -- net profit loss and the EBITDA. And revenue in comparison to the first 9 months of 2020, declined by EUR 14.5 million. And this is split among to our main segments as follows. The oil terminal segment revenue declined by EUR 8.3 million, and this is mostly due to Belarusian cargoes, which stopped from February 2021. And also, we had a EUR 6.1 million decrease in revenue from our regulated business segment, the LNG terminal segment. And this is mostly explained by the fact that in 2020, we earned the excess income, which we are supposed to pay back already in 2022. Now concerning the EBITDA, also the change in EBITDA or decline in EBITDA, which amounts to EUR 17.7 million is split roughly equally between the oil terminal segment and the regulated LNG terminal segment, while the effect for the oil terminal segment comes mostly from the decline in revenue, as mentioned previously. The change in EBITDA for LNGT is mostly affected by the mentioned temporary effect of the excess income, the temporary regulatory differences, as we call them and also a significant increase in the prices of emission allowances, which we also treat as a temporary regulatory difference because according to the effective regulation, these costs -- this increase in cost shall be compensated in future periods. Now concerning the net result, our net profit loss is volatile, and there are 2 reasons for that. One is the effect of the impairment loss recognized in quarter 3 2021, as I mentioned. And another reason is the fluctuations caused by the unrealized gains or losses from the currency exchange fluctuations -- currency exchange rate fluctuations, which is the effect of introduction of IFRS 16 requirements. Therefore, to eliminate the large effect, the unrealized foreign exchange gains or losses, we started calculating -- we adjusted our dividend policy, also the resolution of the government was suggested. And we are calculating now the -- and presenting here the adjusted net result, which eliminates the impact of these unrealized gains or losses also related deferred tax effect. Next, we have a slide on the quarterly performance. And while revenue and EBITDA was quite stable, the small decline in quarter 3 is related or comes from the oil business segment because in quarter 1, we still had, in January, some revenue coming from our Belarusian clients, which ceased, as I mentioned, from February 2021. And in oil segment, in quarter 2, we had some one-off sales. Therefore, I would say that the situation in the oil segment has been quite stable throughout the 3 quarters of 2021. And the revenue from LNG terminal business segment was also relatively stable throughout the year. Now the next slide just presents what I have also already explained, the IFRS based and the adjusted figures, and the adjustment comes in the LNG -- regulated LNG activities. And the adjusted net result for LNG activities would be a profit of EUR 23,000. But this adjusted result does not take into account what we call the temporary regulatory differences because the -- the actual -- the actual regulated return would be based on the regulatory asset base and the regulated rate of return on that asset base, but due to the fact that in 2021, we are repaying back the excess income that was earned in prior periods. Due to that reason, the adjusted net result in 2021 is around 0. Next, we shall proceed with the overview of the business segments, and I pass the word to Darius again.

Darius Silenskis

executive
#4

Yes. Thank you, Mindaugas. So first bullet point in this slide is about the topic which was extensively described by Mindaugas, so I will not talk about -- talking about impairment numbers. But main still reasons of our performance oil segment during first 9 months of the year was impacted due to the same well-known reasons where COVID-affected negative refining margins and respectively let's say, less transshipment volume from our main customer has been seen during this period. Also, of course, we are living the entire year about, let's say, any deliveries from TIs destinations. So we have less term shipment. Nevertheless, it's worth to say that we managed to react properly, and we had many other revenue streams and flows appearing from other services and other customers. And we managed to replace, I would say, a pretty substantial part of the losses by mainly providing long-term storage services to the, let's say, major regions, even world players, traders. Also, we were seeing further increase on the biofuels transshipment, which growth actually again increased by a really significant number by 38% comparing to the same period last year. And we opened a new page, I would say, in our oil segment, we started the testing -- so-called testing, but they actually transshipment on -- of bitumen which is very important, let's say, new direction of our oil segment. So those are the main messages from the oil segment. I will switch to the key factors of our regulated LNG activities in Klaipeda. So as you can see here, we had slightly less revenues. We had slightly less EBITDA. Part of the reasons has been explained already by Mindaugas. But looking into the capacity utilization, we remain on the same average level of other European LNG terminals. Our rate was about 40%, while average utilization rate in our European terminals was about 38%. And of course, the reasons were the same, very strong demand in Asia and in Latin America markets caused the increase of the price indexes and respectively, let's say, even a competition between those continents. So less LNG was coming to Europe this year. Talking about the cargoes. We had 13 large-scale conventional cargoes and 37 small-scale cargoes during this period. And it's worth to mention how the market in Lithuania looks like. So it is increasing. Natural gas consumption in Lithuania increased by 5% year-over-year. And let's say, imports by our operated LNG terminal counted about 2/3 of this consumer gas amount. It's also worth to mention that during Q3, those record LNG prices was only started to race, and the average was EUR 36 per megawatt hour versus EUR 6.2 per megawatt hour in the same period a year ago. And of course, probably many of you know and is aware about price records, which hit the market in Q4 of 2021. So -- but we are talking here about Q3. Talking about our commercial LNG activities, which consists of our small-scale LNG terminal or reloading station operations in Klaipeda, operations of LNG terminal in Açu Port, Brazil and other projects or consultancy services, which we are providing worldwide. So financial result was much profitable, I would say, where revenues remain almost the same, but we had significantly better, let's say, EBITDA during the same period comparing with 2020. And we had as well, let's say, about 100% of adjusted net profit generated. So talking about the statistics. So we have received 5 cargoes, so-called small-scale cargoes in our Klaipeda small-scale LNG reloading station. And yes, talking about our terminals where we are providing services, so it's -- we're always trying to indicate the regions where we are active. So those regions remains the same. We are looking for opportunities and participating in tenders in Europe, Southeast Asia, Middle East and of course, South America, where we are already established. So Mindaugas, I will pass again to you microphone to talk about profitability and return ratios.

Mindaugas Kveksas

executive
#5

Thank you. So I'll just briefly comment on the profitability ratios. Of course, talking about the last 9 months of 2021, the profitability ratios were significantly affected by the single -- or significant event, the impairment loss. And the profitability ratios of return on equity, return on assets, price earnings and also the earnings per share are all calculated based on the adjusted net result. And taking the adjusted net results for the last 12 months, while the earnings per share is calculated with the result of the 9 months of the respective year. So concerning the developments in the balance sheet, the change in property, plant and equipment carrying value is mostly explained by the already discussed impairment loss in the third quarter of 2021. The same also affected to a lesser extent, the change in the carrying amount of right-of-use assets. And also, the second factor was the depreciation of the right-of-use assets. The cash and cash equivalents balance mostly increased due to the fact that due to expiry of short-term deposits. This also had the opposite effect on the decreased decline in the amount of the other current assets, which previously included these term deposits. Now concerning the balance of loans, they increased due to the so-called restructuring mechanism for security supplement as we are taking the loan to finance this mechanism. And I think this is it for the review of the balance sheet, so we are.

Darius Silenskis

executive
#6

We can switch to questions-and-answer part. Yes.

Emilija Ivanauskaite

attendee
#7

Thank you very much for the presentation. [Operator Instructions] So the first question that we received is as following. After the purchase of FSRU, will the NERC's return on profit increase, decrease or remain the same?

Mindaugas Kveksas

executive
#8

Thank you for the question. So we are in the process of approving the investment into FSRU, and the regulatory body has already been reviewing the documents provided by us for some time. So after the approval of the investment, based on the currently effective regulation, the investment into FSRU should increase the regulatory asset base. But of course, the actual impact on the return on the revenue side will depend on the regulation that will be effective at the point in time in the future.

Emilija Ivanauskaite

attendee
#9

And does NERC affect international projects, namely regulation of profits?

Darius Silenskis

executive
#10

Yes. So I will take this question. So National Energy Regulator, by its name, it means that it regulates regulated activities since our international projects are not regulated activity, and we are competing with other market players worldwide, it's not a subject of our National Energy Regulator's responsibility.

Emilija Ivanauskaite

attendee
#11

And is Klaipedos nafta planning to adapt its infrastructure for hydrogen in the future?

Darius Silenskis

executive
#12

Yes. Thank you for the question. I think it comes second time in a row. I remember last webinar, we received the same. So the answer is that liquefied natural gas, let's say, infrastructure is not suitable for, let's say, handling and storage, or storage of liquefied hydrogen due to significant differences on temperatures and on a molecule sizes. Nevertheless, the grid, which KN also operates and which connects our FSRU unit in Klaipeda, you can use it, let's say, by adding some part of hydrogen into it. But as I said, not liquid one. So I think that answers. And other, of course, infrastructure like oil terminals, we are not suitable due to completely different nature of -- and physical, let's say, physical capabilities of the product.

Emilija Ivanauskaite

attendee
#13

And could you please comment on what are the directions of extension in OT and LNGT segments for the period of 1 to 3 years?

Darius Silenskis

executive
#14

Yes. Thank you for the question. I think I already mentioned at the very beginning of today's session that the company is now in process of revising its strategy in order to react properly to ongoing changes and challenges, both in energy market and changes in the cargo flow directions. So -- but -- so what I'm trying to say, it's -- maybe too early to go into the details with our, let's say, strategic shifts. But we also mentioned today, we are looking to replace. And I think we are quite successful in replacing the losses of the transshipment activities by smaller cargoes, by petrochemical cargoes, by bitumen, we are actively seeking for any opportunity in a long storage market. So I think this will remain a trend for the mid-term up to 3 years' period. And on the LNGT, yes, it's obvious that the key goal for the mentioned period is to acquire FSRU properly to take it over and to gain capability to operate it. So those are the main goals for the 1 to 3 years period for our team. Thanks.

Emilija Ivanauskaite

attendee
#15

And from which segment, higher return is expected in the future, from LNGT or OT, please?

Darius Silenskis

executive
#16

Yes. So LNGT segment is regulated segment. So as it was mentioned already, the returns are defined by national energy regulator. And we are, let's say, reflecting also the benchmarks of the respective industry, meaning regulated industry. While oil segment or OT, like we are, let's say, abbreviating it is a competitive business, and it's always you cannot benchmark it or regulate it, you should strive for the best result. So the general answer, but it's completely different segments. One is regulated, other is competitive business segment. And of course, it's not regulated. Yes, it's -- so I mean, I would like to summarize, of course, business segment, we are always looking for better returns from the business segment.

Emilija Ivanauskaite

attendee
#17

And how close is Klaipedos nafta cooperating with Amber Grid and entire EPSO-G Group? And what is the commercial relationship? Could you please comment on this?

Darius Silenskis

executive
#18

We have many angles, we've mentioned EPSO-G. First of all, the major shareholder for both KN and EPSO-G Group is the same, Ministry of Energy. And of course, by nature, we are different. Amber Grid is TSO. We are operator of marine or, let's say, floating infrastructure in Klaipeda. But of course, we have many crossing points or common points. I have mentioned in group because attractiveness of our infrastructure in Klaipeda for customers that really depends not only on our rates and verification, but as well on a grid operator's policies and pricing. So we are coping or cooperating with them by trying to be competitive and by trying to maximize our, let's say, LNG terminal capacity utilization in Klaipeda. So this is the answer.

Emilija Ivanauskaite

attendee
#19

And does the CFO of Klaipedos nafta plan for the company's shares to be in the portfolios of pension funds, thus increasing the liquidity of Klaipedos nafta?.

Mindaugas Kveksas

executive
#20

Thank you for the question. The brief response would be that, for the moment, there are no active plans to increase the amount of shares in the portfolios of the pension fund.

Darius Silenskis

executive
#21

But I will add something on top because I think this question is repeated again. Last time, it was a question about, do we have some pension funds in the list of our shareholders. So our answer was yes. We have some.

Emilija Ivanauskaite

attendee
#22

[Operator Instructions] And the next question would be as following. Do you prognose a growth in revenue for 2022?

Mindaugas Kveksas

executive
#23

I may take this question. Thank you for it. And so, as has been the practice in the past, we were not providing or issuing any -- the guidance on the future financial performance of the company. So we are not changing this practice for the moment. Thank you for the question.

Emilija Ivanauskaite

attendee
#24

Another one is asking for how far will Klaipedos nafta fall in terms of financial performance? Could you please comment on that?

Darius Silenskis

executive
#25

Yes, very straightforward question. Thank you for that. As we are presenting, we have few business arms or legs, how you name it. And it's not exactly the true saying that we are falling in all the directions. As I presented, our global LNG and commercial activities in LNG segment, we are growing, we are performing, we are already bringing the bottom line or net profits to the consolidated result. Nevertheless, you have a question, it's really understandable. The hit, which we took in our, let's say, previously most profitable segment, we are still, let's say, recognizing it. And we are seeing a result of loss of a significant amount of revenues from [ various ] directions. But as already said and explained, a lot of actions has been taken and significant, let's say, amount of revenues has been replaced by alternative flows and services. And talking about the regulated activity, yes, so I would like to remind the purpose of our, let's say, LNG terminal in Klaipeda. It's, of course, very important to have commercial activity, which allows to minimize all the security supplement costs. Nevertheless, this asset has the purpose of assuring competitive price for all gas consumers in the region and to assure security of the supply. For example, now all the world is facing crisis. And in case if we won't have such infrastructure in Klaipeda, we cannot even forecast how high the price can be. Nevertheless, the segment is regulated we have presented. We are getting improvement from, let's say, regulated activities as well. So I wouldn't call that it is a fall trend. It's opposite. It's an upward trend. And this can be supported by the fact that weighted average cost of capital [ impact ] has been increased from 3.46% to 4.14% from regulated asset base. So it's also improving. Yes, so I hope I answered this question.

Emilija Ivanauskaite

attendee
#26

And indeed, the next question is asking about the -- what -- do you have a serious action plan to improve your performance? So would you like to add anything on that, what you already said?

Darius Silenskis

executive
#27

Yes. Yes, good question, indeed, and I have something to add on top. Actually, we are on this improvement or efficiency or productivity plan from the moment when we recognized the loss of Belarusian and Russian volumes. So it's what already more than a year. And we have many actions on the list and which are already implemented. We have many efficiency improvements, which are not visible like we have commented earlier, why, because we had a so-called perfect storm on a cost basis as well. We had almost double natural gas prices, which we are consuming in our processes. We had about 50% higher prices for electricity during 2021 comparing to the previous period. And of course, we had very significant growth on emission allowance costs. So all those increases, which were not possible to be forecasted, affected the final results and probably is not showing -- it's not allowing us to show efficiency improvement actions. But nevertheless, we just finalized our benchmarking study with a world-known company. And we've been benchmarked with more than [ 60 ] terminals -- terminal operators in Europe. And yes, we have some insights, good insights, and we will be continuing focus on productivity and efficiency by understanding more well what is -- what can be improved further.

Emilija Ivanauskaite

attendee
#28

And another question would be asking if you -- what is the reason why there are no LNG vessels scheduled for January to March of 2022? Could you please comment on that?

Darius Silenskis

executive
#29

Yes. So the main reason is the record high LNG indexes. And yes, we are having -- or we see plans from our customers to bring some small cargoes, but there is no certainty about the large scale, and as we explained, pricing of LNG.

Emilija Ivanauskaite

attendee
#30

And it seems that we will have the last question now. So in case you do have a question, which was not asked during the session, please do not hesitate to write it in the question box. And the question would be as following. We -- when can we expect to hear more about the new strategic direction? And how about the sustainability agenda? Are you moving to become more sustainable?

Darius Silenskis

executive
#31

Yes, very good question. And actually, it's a topic where myself and most of my team is spending a lot of resources recently. I briefly mentioned that we are in the process of a revision of our strategy, which will include not only shifts in our conventional, let's say, business arms or legs, but also will add on top new directions in a more sustainable energy mix. It's also to mention that why we are not providing yet is because Lithuania is now drafting its own strategy on hydrogen and renewable, and the plan is to finalize that within first half of 2022. So our ambition and our target is to be in line with the strategy and to be a part of Lithuanian more sustainable energy, let's say, both infrastructure and the business in the future. So yes, shortly, we have a plan, and it's been announced actually publicly. We are looking not only on hydrogen, we are looking to find our place as well in the carbon capture and storage activities, and we have as well even memorandums of understanding, and we are cooperating with the foreign known partners on identifying them, let's say, ourselves in a TTS supply chain. So a lot of it is done. But unfortunately, we are not ready to revert to you or to investors with full scope strategy yet. So timing is first half of 2022, then we will come back a little bit.

Emilija Ivanauskaite

attendee
#32

Thank you very much. So as all the questions are answered, then on behalf of Klaipedos nafta and Nasdaq Vilnius, thank you, everyone. It was our pleasure being with you today. Recording of the presentation will be available in the Nasdaq Baltic YouTube channel. Dear management, thank you very much for the presentation and the Q&A session. Have a good day, everyone, and goodbye.

Darius Silenskis

executive
#33

Yes. Thank you, Emilija, for smooth, as always, moderation of the event, and thank you for everybody who was participating. Have a nice day.

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