Aboitiz Power Corporation (AP) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 12, 2025
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveGood afternoon. Welcome to AboitizPower's earnings briefing for the first half of 2025. My name is Jacqui De Jesus, and I will be the moderator for today's call. [Operator Instructions] Lastly, this briefing will be recorded. By joining this session, you consent to your name, voice, image and chat comments being recorded for use and dissemination. Our CFO, Sandro Aboitiz, will present the earnings results of AboitizPower. After the presentation, we will open the floor for Q&A. Sandro, you have the floor.
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveThank you very much, Jacqui, and good afternoon to everybody. We appreciate you all taking the time to join us this afternoon as we share our -- the results of our second quarter and first half of 2025. AboitizPower recorded a beneficial EBITDA of PHP 19.1 billion for the second quarter of 2025, a 27% increase versus the PHP 15 billion in EBITDA recorded in the first quarter was largely attributable to three things: The first, the full 3-month contribution of Chromite Gas Holdings; the second, higher margins across the Generation segment due to better plant availability and reduced exposure to the spot market. And the third, continued sales growth in the Distribution business. However, despite the positive trend in the second quarter, our beneficial EBITDA of PHP 34.1 billion for the first half of 2025 was 6% lower compared to the same period last year. New contributions from Chromite Gas and new solar plants such as Laoag, Armenia and Calatrava were offset by significantly lower spot market prices. The largest contributor to beneficial EBITDA was the Power Generation segment, which accounted for close to 90% of total EBITDA in the first half. This was followed by the Distribution Utility and RES segments, which contributed 13% and 3% of total beneficial EBITDA, respectively. Although no new solar or wind facilities were commissioned in the first half of 2025, our renewable energy pipeline continues to progress. We anticipate the 93-megawatt San Manuel solar plant to be completed by year-end, bringing our total renewable energy projects under construction to 421 megawatts as of June 2025. In addition to our renewable energy pipeline, our thermal business group is also actively developing several projects. These include multiple battery energy storage system projects that will be integrated as hybrids in our existing oil units, replicating the success of our first battery project in TMI in Mindanao. The EAUC BES is a 30-megawatt facility poised to be one of the first large-scale energy storage systems in Central Visayas, while the TMI BESS 2 is a 48-megawatt project in Mindanao, replicating the first that we did in TMI some years ago. Aim for completion between 2026 and 2027, these assets will provide the needed ancillary services to enhance power supply reliability amidst increasing demand from industries, businesses and new economic zone locators. Furthermore, the 150-megawatt third unit expansion of coal-fired Therma Visayas in Toledo, Cebu is progressing and is slated for completion in 2028. This project will be crucial in addressing Cebu's urgent need for new baseload supply to meet its growing demand. We achieved financial close on this project a few months ago. In the first half of 2025, energy sold totaled 19.4 terawatt hours, which represent a 9% year-on-year increase. Of this total, 14.7 terawatt hours or 75% was sold through contracts to both regulated and retail markets. The spot market accounted for 13% of total volumes sold. Energy sold for ancillary services rose by 36% year-on-year, primarily due to new ancillary services contracts secured by SNAP and the base effects from the suspension of the reserves market from March to August of last year. In the second quarter of 2025, new contracts totaling 400 megawatts in GNPD, TLI and TVI went live. Including our attributable capacities in Chromite, 87% of our baseload capacity is now contracted, up from 70% at the end of March 2025. Considering the timing of delivery of other contracts that were awarded in 2024, we are expecting 800 more megawatts of contracts to start delivery throughout the second half, which will bring the contracted level of our baseload fleet to around 90% by year-end. Having said that, we do not intend to stop at 90% and continue to seek opportunities to bring this up to as close to 100% as possible. The beneficial revenue of our Power Generation segment rose by 6% year-on-year to PHP 86.2 billion in the first half of 2025. Apart from the increase in energy sold, the revenue growth was attributable to the higher price per kilowatt hour of our contracted portfolio, which offset the significant decline in spot prices. You will see in the chart at the bottom of the right portion of the slide that average spot revenue has come down almost PHP 2.5 per kilowatt hours compared to the same period last year, reflecting the downward trend in the load weighted average price. Typically, prices tend to trend up, as you know, as we come into the summer months. And you'll see in the graph here that in 2025, the trend was actually downwards despite it being an election year when demand typically comes up. Despite an increase in revenue, gross profit remained flat at about PHP 33.8 billion as the weak spot prices and outages of our coal plants negatively impacted margins. On a like-for- basis, if you adjust the impact of new plants and compare against last year, the impact of the lower spot prices alone, that PHP 2.5 difference versus last year, would have been PHP 8 billion year-on-year, which the decline in generation costs due to lower coal prices would not have been able to offset. Essentially, the spot prices dropped much faster than the cost of generation. For our Distribution Utility segment, growth in energy consumption demand across all customer segments drove volume sales up 4% year-on-year. This sustained volume growth drove distribution EBITDA higher to PHP 4.5 billion in the first half of 2025 from PHP 4.4 billion in the same period last year. Finally, AboitizPower and its affiliates continue to maintain a market-leading 28% market share of the RES market. Its stable customer base contributed a segment EBITDA of PHP 900 million for the first half of 2025. The decline in AboitizPower's beneficial EBITDA in the first half of 2025 as well as the full impact of depreciation and interest expense for GNPD, which we began recognizing in March 2024, translated to a lower net income of PHP 12.7 billion in the first half of 2025 compared to PHP 17.1 billion in the same period last year. Ultimately, the biggest impact to the business on a year-to-year basis is the steep decline in spot price, which offset new contributions from Chromite and new RE plants. The growth in our total assets is still primarily due to Chromite Gas Holdings, which was partially funded by debt. Although this raised our net debt to equity to 1.17x as of June, it remains to be within a manageable range. As of June 2025, together with our partners, we have deployed PHP 56.7 billion in capital, the bulk of which was for our share in Chromite, which we closed earlier in the year. Outside of M&A, we have thus far deployed approximately PHP 10 billion towards our internal growth projects, which we expect to continue to ramp up as the year goes on. This ends my presentation for now. Thank you for your attention and looking forward to answering your questions in a little while. Thank you.
Operator
operatorThank you so much, Sandro. So now on to Q&A. We will start off with the questions we received in advance. [Operator Instructions] So the first question is on plant availability. How was plant availability in the second quarter versus the first quarter? Was this less of an issue for the Generation segment's performance in the second quarter?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveSo the bottom line is yes. So the weighted average availability of the coal fleet in the second quarter was about 90%. That was about 70% in Q1, and the difference between those two numbers is primarily because of the front-loaded planned outages that we explained in the quarter 1 briefing. And the reason why they were really front-loaded was because of the preparations for the elections in May.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveThe second question is on spot exposure. How much of generation volumes were exposed to the spot market?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveYes. So we showed this in the presentation. About 13% of volumes sold went to the spot market. On a positive note, right, we're expecting this to drop in the coming 2 quarters because of the 800 megawatts of contracts that we're expecting to start delivery over the next couple of months, the bulk of which are with Meralco. And then again, because of these contracts, we're expecting the baseload portfolio to be 90% contracted by year-end. And we're still, as I mentioned earlier, seeking opportunities in the market to close the remaining 10% to get that baseload portfolio as close to 100% as possible.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveIn relation to that question, how much is the decline in net income attributable to the decline in spot market prices?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveIf spot prices remained flat year-on-year. And again, the difference in the selling price for the first half this year and last year was PHP 2.5 per kilowatt hour. Our [ NIM ] would have been higher by PHP 6.5 billion in the first half of the year just from that spot impact alone. So it's the single biggest driver of year-on-year results.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveNext question is on contracted capacity. How much capacity will be contracted in the second half? And by how much will spot exposure decrease with the commencement of the additional bilateral contracts?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveSo the only ones that we know of today that are coming in are the 800 megawatts worth of new contracts or roughly 800 megawatts of new contracts. Again, having said that, we are still looking for opportunities, both on the regulated and retail side to bring in more contracts before the year ends. But as of today, what we expect to start delivery because we've already won those contracts is the roughly 800 megawatts that are coming in the next couple of months.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveThank you. So I see [ Jelline ] has her hand raised, but maybe before that, I'll just go through clients' questions on Chromite. So this is very similar to questions that were sent in as well. How much did Chromite Gas contribute to net profit in the first half of 2025?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveIn the first half, Chromite contributed PHP 2.4 billion to AP's NIAT.
Jacqui De Jesus
executive[ Jelline, ] you can ask your questions now.
Unknown Analyst
analystMy first question really is on the spot price outlook. You mentioned that it's a major driver of earnings for the first half and likely so going forward. Can you comment on your expectations on trends and what will be the most potent drivers going forward?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveOf spot prices themselves?
Unknown Analyst
analystYes, spot prices.
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveYes. I think our broad expectation is that spot prices will remain low. And I think that's because of two things, right? One thing we're seeing this year is definitely on the -- so we know about the new capacity, right? So there's the gas plants that have come in, all of the new renewable projects. We're also seeing, I guess, a lot more rooftop solar that's coming into the grid, right? That's taking demand away from the centralized grid. Other things from a demand perspective, this year, temperatures and -- temperatures have been cooler than last year, like generally speaking. There's been more rainfall this year than last year as well, which impacts demand. And then on the -- I guess, on the economy side, right, a weaker economy can translate into kind of like weaker demand, right? But I think on a more medium-term basis, the expectation is that because of all of these new GEA auctions that are adding so much supply to the grid, especially in Luzon, I think there's an expectation that supply will outpace demand in the medium term, which means spot prices will, I think, continue to be pretty muted, which I think just reinforces all the more the need and the strategy to contract the remaining 10% of our portfolio because 10% of a large portfolio can obviously have a significant impact on bottom line if we're talking about PHP 1 to PHP 2 differentials in spot price.
Unknown Analyst
analystUnderstood. But going back on the more near term, you mentioned 800 megawatts of new contracts will come in. You already have visibility of where these contracts are currently contracted. Can you give us an idea about unit margins 2Q versus second half? Will these new contracts offer some [ reprieve ] even with your lower spot price outlook?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveYes, it should because it will replace the, I guess, the merchant capacity and the margins there should be higher than what we should expect to get on spot. So spot prices are -- can you go to the spot slide so we can show what they were for the first half. Yes, PHP 4, right? In some months, that's lower than PHP 4 even, right? So contract prices are higher than that. And so I think the expectation is that there will be margin reprieve when the contracts come in. But again, the 10% of exposure is not small, right? And so we are actively trying to close that exposure as fast as we can of the 10%.
Jelline Gaza
analystAnd on that recontracting for the next 10%, which particular segment of the power portfolio would you want to be more active? Will it be RES on upcoming PSAs or other avenues that you might have? How are you thinking about contracting?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveYes. I think the preference is long-term contracts, long-term capacity-based contracts. And those contracts are you can find those contracts in the regulated space when the DUs and cooperatives auction out the requirements. So we're always -- so that's always top of mind for us. Having said that, there are opportunities to contract still in retail, but I think our preference at this point in time is to find long-term capacity-based fuel pass-through type contracts. But as a secondary market, retail is there. And there are, I guess, policy mechanisms on the retail side, like the retail aggregation program of ARC, which allows the best of all customers currently under the threshold to aggregate their demand, right, to become eligible that will free up a much larger, I guess, portion of the captive market for retail. That's always a potential secondary market for us. And we are still, I guess, open to trading non-AP capacity, right, to continue serving the retail market as a way to complement our existing portfolio, which should allow us to, I guess, serve both markets if we're able to execute that strategy.
Jelline Gaza
analystUnderstand. Is there an aspiration in terms of timing for closing that 10% gap?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveYes. I mean we are, to a large extent, dependent on the needs of the customers and when they hold the auctions, right? But we are expecting a host of CSPs next year.
Jelline Gaza
analystUnderstand. And sorry, if I may, just another one on the CBK. I'm not sure if you're already in the liberty to disclose how much stake AP has, in thunder and expected funding as well as earnings impact from this asset?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveYes. I think it's a bit -- so we haven't financially closed yet, and we haven't gone through the PCC process yet. So I think it's a little bit premature.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveI spot 2 questions on the Q&A box. Maybe I'll go to that first. So since it's still on the spot market. So if AboitizPower's exposure to the spot market is only 13%, why is net income still on a downward trend? What is the primary factor driving this decline?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveYes. So again, right, 13% relative to -- so the difference in price is still significant, right? So again, if you compare versus last year, that's PHP 2.5. So if you compare -- if you multiply volume times price on the PHP 2.5, it's significant, which is why I think it's imperative for us to close that gap as fast as we can because even if it's just 13%, it can have an outsized impact on the portfolio because the price differential is so large. So it's still WESM, but it's really the price differential that's driving the gap.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveUnderstood. The second one is related to that one. Can you please compare average margin of merchant sales versus bilateral?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveI don't -- I mean, if you look at -- if you go back to the WESM side, you can see the difference in revenue.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveYes. Okay. So going back to the list, the next few questions -- the next question is on Chromite. Can you please provide some more detail on the financing structure for Chromite, specifically Aboitiz own equity and debt contribution?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveSo when we acquired Chromite, about 60% of the purchase price was funded through debt. At the time, it was funded through a short-term facility. This was subsequently refinanced the bulk of that short-term debt using the proceeds from our recent bond issuance where you raised PHP 30 billion in bonds of various tenors. PHP 22 billion out of the PHP 30 billion that we raised via the bond offering was used to pay down and term out that short-term debt. So that's, I guess, on the AP side. On the Chromite side, only 1 of the 3 assets in -- of the operating companies currently has long-term debt on its balance sheet. The management team over there is currently evaluating options to bring long-term debt into those other 2 plants. But that hasn't happened yet. So there aren't -- I guess, at this point in time, no further details to share from that perspective.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveOkay. So the next question is, I think you touched on this a little bit a while ago, but just to reiterate, does management expect an improvement in the second half of this year in earnings versus the first half? What will be the drivers?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveYes. I think we -- there are reasons to expect an improvement in the second half, and that's really because of a couple of things. Number one, again, it's the new contracts coming in, which should deliver higher margins in the spot, right? So there's 800 megawatts worth of new contracts. And we'll start delivery. I think the last one of them comes in at the end of the third quarter. So in the next couple of months, [ those funders ] will come in and we'll start delivering higher margins. Not with all these challenges, but we continue to keep the reliability of our plants a high priority and are optimistic that we can bring up plant availability. The third reason is that all 3 units of Excellent Energy, EERI, which is the gas expansion project in Chromite are now in full operation. That was not the case in first half as those units gradually ramped up into their own CODs. So we'll feel the full effect of those 3 plants in the second half of the year or 3 units rather in the second half of the year. And then lastly, if you recall, we won a host of ASPA contracts in NGCP, CSP in 2023. And when we received preliminary approval for those ASPAs, we were serving them at capped rates. We have received final approval on the bulk of those contracts just recently actually in July. So the big ones there are SNAP and TLI. So we're now able to serve those contracts at the applied rate, which is higher than the capped rate that we were issued during the provisional approval. And we're also hopeful that we will be able to retroactively recover the difference in the rates from the time we started delivering those contracts. And because those -- the final approval just came in July; we'll now start to see the impact of that in the second half financials. So it's really because of those, I guess, 4 things that we're -- that there's a lot of reason to believe that performance will improve in the second half of the year.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveThat's clear. The next 2 questions will be on outlook. And so the first one is following CBK, is AboitizPower evaluating any other potential targets? And are there specific asset types or markets that the management is prioritizing?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveSo we're always on the lookout to grow our portfolio through both organic and inorganic means. Growth through M&A has always been a priority and will continue to be. I guess at this point in time, I'm not at liberty to share any more detail than that at this moment. But M&A is always, I guess, a main channel of growth for us.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveOkay. The next one is, what is your outlook on power demand and supply in the near term and medium term, considering the slowdown in Philippine economic growth?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveSo I think Luzon, again, Luzon, we're expecting high reserve margins for all those reasons I intimated earlier. A lot of the new capacity in the auctions are coming in Luzon. So we feel that in Luzon, supply will outpace demand growth. It's not necessarily the same story in the Visayas and Mindanao. So we're expecting more tightness in Visayas, in Mindanao than in Luzon. But Luzon being the biggest grid, we're expecting spot price to be muted for all those reasons. And again, this is why it's important for us to seek out opportunities to contract our capacity.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveThe next question is, well, related to that as well, what is management's view on the Visayas grid? And how is it affecting your operations on project timelines in the region?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveSo again, we feel that there's more urgency to bring more supply to the Visayas grid. And I think Visayas is, I guess, more unique than Luzon because it's a bunch of different islands. Luzon is really one large land mass. So the Visayas needs capacity on those islands in the load centers. And because of the tightness, we're really trying to -- we're very eager to add new capacity, I guess, to Visayas grid. So we're building -- currently building the 30 unit of TVI, which we're expecting to come online in 2028. That's 150 megawatts of base of energy. And then the battery project in EAUC to support the reliability of the grid. So I think we're, again, eager to bring more supply to the Visayas grid because of the expected tightness.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveGot it. Next question is, historically, AP's total energy sold peaked in the third quarter. Do you expect the seasonal trend to persist in 2025? And how might this translate into earnings?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveSo we're expecting the same seasonal trend to occur in 2025. As far as earnings are concerned, again, because spot prices continue to be weak, that could have an impact on earnings. And of the 800 megawatts that are coming in, in the second half, I think about 500 or so of that 800 come in at the end of the third quarter. So you won't -- we won't really feel the impact of that 400 to 500 megawatts of contracts until the fourth quarter of the year.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveGot it. There are 2 questions in the -- well, 3 questions in the Q&A box. First one is if new electricity supply will add and will depress spot prices, will that also bid down bilateral selling prices and compress margins? What's your view on the long-term bilateral contract prices?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveSo a lot of the contracts that we have -- like the bulk of what's coming in are already signed. And so it should not have an impact on what we're expecting to come in, in the next couple of months. I think when -- ultimately, it's about competitive tension. A lot of the new supply is being sold through [ J-up ]. So I don't think we'll see the same kind of impact on long-term bilateral prices that we see in WESM. Now will there be some competitive tension there? Sure, but I don't think you're going to see the same kind of impact that you're seeing on WESM prices on long-term bilateral contract prices.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveOkay. The next question is from -- still the Q&A box. For the PHP 2.4 billion profit contribution from Chromite, does this consider the interest cost from the funds used for the acquisition, i.e., the bonds?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveNo, it does not. It does not consider the parent interest cost yet.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveOkay. Next question is on plant availability. How is plant availability in the second quarter of this year versus the second quarter of last year?
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveI think I've got that somewhere. Yes. In the 6 months in 2020 -- first half of 2025, we're about 80% weighted availability factor. Same period last year, we were about 87%. So the difference is about 7%. The bulk of that is the planned outages. So the difference in plant outages between first half this year, second half of this year is about 5%. So the planned outage rate in the first half of the year in 2025 was 9%. Last year, that was 4%. So I guess, the bulk of the difference is because of the planned outages. But it's lower by 7% year-on-year in totality.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveSo there are no more open questions on the Q&A box. [Operator Instructions] So I don't see any more raised hands or questions in the Q&A box. I think we can wrap the Q&A session now. So thank you very much for your questions. Thank you, Sandro. For the benefit of those who missed the session or would like to rewatch the event, a recording of this briefing will be uploaded on our website. On behalf of Sandro and the entire presentation development team, we would like to thank everybody for joining us today. For those of you who will join us in the earnings call of Aboitiz Equity Ventures, see you later at 4:30 p.m. And for the rest, see you all again in the third quarter briefing on November 6. Good afternoon.
Juan Alejandro Aboitiz
executiveThank you.
Jacqui De Jesus
executiveThank you.
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