Accent Group Limited (AX1) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 22, 2025

ASX AU Consumer Discretionary Specialty Retail earnings 51 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Thank you everyone, for joining the Accent Group FY '25 Full Year Investor Briefing. We will begin with a presentation by Daniel Agostinelli, Group CEO; and Matthew Durbin, Group CFO, followed by a Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] Now Daniel, over to you. Thank you.

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#2

Thank you, Kierra. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for taking the time to attend the call today. We will now take you through the results for the full year ended 29th of June 2025 and a trading update for the first 7 weeks of the H1 FY '26 year. There will be an opportunity to ask some questions at the end. Accent again delivered sales growth and profitability in the FY '25 year. I'm pleased with Accent team's ongoing focus on our customers, product innovation and high standards of retail execution, online and in stores. We continue to make progress against our strategic objectives. If I can now refer you to the operational highlights on Page 4 of our investor presentation, which was released to the ASX this morning. The key highlights include, the opening of 54 new stores, bringing the total number of stores to 903 inclusive of our online websites. Vertical owned brands and product sales have grown to more than $130 million, a mix of around 9% of our total sales. New distribution agreement signed with Lacoste and Dickies with Merrell and Timberland agreements also renewed for further terms. Our long-term Skechers distribution agreement was extended to a 10-year term out to 2035. Skechers is our most important distribution agreement, where we currently have more than 200 stores in a large online and wholesale business. In April, the company signed a long-term strategic partnership with the Frasers Group to bring Sports Direct stores to the ANZ region. I'm pleased to report that the Sports Direct rollout is on track with our first store due to open in Melbourne in November. I will now hand you over to Matthew Durbin to talk through the details of the results.

Matthew Durbin

executive
#3

Thanks, Daniel. Turning on to Page 5. Total sales for the year, including tough franchisees were $1.6 billion. EBIT of $110 million was in line with prior year and at the upper end of the guidance of $108 million to $111 million provided in the June trading update. Inventory levels were in line with plan with aged levels clean. The year-on-year increase in inventory reflects the timing of stock in transit, converting TAF franchise stores and inventory acquired in conjunction with the Frasers transaction, along with opening inventory for Lacoste and Dickies. In terms of the summary of financial performance on Slide 6. Gross margin was down 85 basis points to 54.9%, reflecting the more promotional consumer environment and in half to the impact of lower sales and disciplined approach taken to managing inventory, cost of doing business of 46.6%, including less depreciation and interest was an increase on prior year arising from low LFL sales in half 2 and continuing inflationary pressure in store team wages and annualizing rent reviews. Net profit after tax was $57.7 million. Coming on to retail and wholesale on Slide 8. Owned retail sales grew by 2.5% to $1.3 billion. During the year, 34 new stores were opened. New store performance remained strong with sales and return metrics in line with expectations. Of the 57 stores clients or divested, 39 of these related to divestments and discontinued brands with a further 18 stores closed where sustainable renewal terms could not be agreed. Wholesale sales of $155 million reflected the challenging macro and consumer conditions in the broader lifestyle footwear market. Sales of vertical owned brands and products grew nearly $130 million, continuing to improve underlying gross margins. The key contributors to the growth were Nude Lucy, NiLS, Stylerunner and ODE. Turning to the growth plan on Pages 9 and 10. The company continues to have a strong pipeline of growth opportunities. The Sports Direct rollout is on track with the first Australian Sports Direct store plant to open in Melbourne in November, at least 4 stores, including online or plan in FY '26, at least 50 Sports Direct stores are planned over the next 6 years. The Lacoste and Dickies distribution agreements both commenced on the 1st of July, with sales starting to grow in FY '26. There are further store line opportunities across the portfolio at least 30 stores, excluding the Sports Direct plan to open in FY '26, including more new stores in Skechers, Nude Lucy, Hoka, Stylerunner and others. The all-important Skechers distribution agreement has been extended to a 10-year term out until 2035, reinforcing the position that Accent holds as the distribution partner of choice for global brands in the ANZ region. The Athlete's Foot franchise reacquisition program remains on track. On an annualized basis, the 15 TAF stores reacquired in FY '25 generated around $43 million of sales. All are strongly profitable. A further there acquisitions are planned in FY '26. Turning to dividends and the trading update. The company has announced a fully franked dividend of $0.015 per share, bringing total dividends for the year to $0.07 per share. The full year dividends represent a payout ratio of around 70% of earnings per share for the year. Total owned sales for the first 7 weeks of FY '26 are up 2% to last year. Like-for-like retail sales for the first 7 weeks are up 0.8%, and for the year, the company is targeting low single-digit EBIT growth in FY '26. This is inclusive of the start-up costs expected to be associated with Sports Direct. The outlook for half 1 FY '26 EBIT is for a similar level of EBIT to half 1 FY '25 with growth in half 2 FY '26. This target is based on achieving low single-digit LFL sales growth, growth from new and annualizing stores, incremental profit from the athletes franchise acquisition program, new distributed brands and continued growth in Hoka and Nude Lucy. Gross margin percentage and cost of doing business percentage are planned to be broadly flat to FY '25. I and the projection includes the impact of start-up costs for Sports Direct. Now it's back to Daniel to wrap up.

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#4

Thanks, Matt. We are pleased with trading the opening weeks of FY '26. In particular, the return to positive like-for-like retail sales growth. Wholesale sales have traded in line with prior year with strong forward orders we're very pleased with what's happening in wholesale. The Accent team is focused on executing our plan for FY '26, including innovative new product, new stores, launching Sports Direct growth from our existing and new distributed brands and a continued driving cost efficiency, underlying gross margin improvement. The Sports Direct rollout, in particular is a major growth opportunity for our company over the coming years. Finally, I would also like to take this opportunity to personally acknowledge and thank our Chairman, David Gordon, for his support, leadership and stewardship of the company over the past 19 years David has announced his intention to retire at the company's AGM in November, and we wish him all the very best for the future. That concludes our presentation today, and we would be happy to take any questions. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Garth.

Garth Francis

analyst
#6

Can you guys hear me?

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#7

We can.

Garth Francis

analyst
#8

Congratulations on the results. Just on the trading update, could you just sort of break down the difference in the lifestyle and the performance of lifestyle and the performance of your performance banners, the performance had previously been quite strong, and I just wanted to assess whether that was still a lifestyle that was dragging that down?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#9

Yes. Garth, thematically, that trend continues. So the banners like the athletes, for hacker and Merrell. This is a trend we've talked about now for at least 12 months. continue to perform strongly. And the more lifestyle-oriented banners are definitely softer in terms of the growth. albeit, as we called out. What we're starting to see is a strong forward pipeline of wholesale orders, which gives us confidence as a forward read that some strength might be returning in that part of the business.

Garth Francis

analyst
#10

Okay. Great. And then just on that, I think the inventory growth was well above the revenue growth. How confident are you that you're not going to have to discount with that stock that you've got? I mean I know you mentioned it was clean, but is that just related to the new store openings? Or is that -- is there something that we need to just be conscious of there?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#11

No. There's no issues in terms of the composition of our inventory of the levels. And that's why we specifically called out the sort of year-on-year, I'm going to say one-off impacts, which is new inventory that's coming in for the athletes franchise stores that have converted. We've got opening inventory levels from Lacoste and Dickies, which will translate into sales. And we haven't made much of a deal about it. We acquired quite a bit of inventory, which you can see in our combinations not there as part of the Frasers deal, part of which will be inventory for our sale and part for Sports Direct.

Garth Francis

analyst
#12

All right. Terrific. And then maybe one more, if I can. Just the theft has been an issue with one of your peers that was called out yesterday. Are you seeing similar levels? And is that -- have you sort of had to factor in any measures to protect staff and stock?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#13

There's 2 aspects to that, Garth. I might just talk to the financials around shrink and then Daniel can talk to the team. But we're not -- it's a bit easier for us, I think, than others. We're very diligent on it. And when you've got one shoe out on the wall, we're a little bit more protected in the way our business model works. So we're not seeing any dramatic increases in shrinkage, to be honest, in our business.

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#14

And on the people side, Garth, absolutely. We're spending a lot of time making sure that our team is safe. We're doing all we can to advise the shopping centers in the main landlords that more has to be done in this space. And hopefully, it all goes away for everyone. But certainly been a little bit of a spike, but we've not had incidents that we've heard that others have had to date. And hopefully, we won't.

Garth Francis

analyst
#15

Sure. But I guess that just means that you wouldn't be able to reduce the number of staff in store just from a safety aspect. So that probably gives you a little bit less flex on wage costs looking forward?

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#16

Yes, I think so. Well, we never have -- we very rarely have any store with just a single person in store at any rate. But yes, I mean, so far it has not affected our rostering methodology to this point.

Operator

operator
#17

Our next question comes from Chami.

Chamithri Ratnapala

analyst
#18

Congratulations on some of the announcements today. Good to see. Maybe starting off with the outlook, just to add on to the previous question as well. Considering the a bit more than usual skew in FY '25, could you talk to sort of when you earlier said first half to be a bit consistent? And then second half growth? Could you elaborate here for EBIT?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#19

Yes. Look, there's not much more to say, Chami, I think that -- if we look at, I'm going to say, a normal split of first half, second half profit and we have a look at what happened in the second half last year. And I'm going to say, project through based on the comp sales that we're expecting in the first half and margin and cost of doing business. that growth in the first half on the first half last year, which was actually pretty solid, particularly in hindsight, we think will be challenging. So -- so it's trying to set expectations. First half this year, we're expecting to be flat, and that's what we're targeting and growth in the second half last year -- sorry, the second half of this year against what was, frankly, a disappointing second half.

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#20

Also, Chami, I can add that, as I said, we're quite pleased with what we're seeing with forward orders on wholesale. It's been quite positive. And hopefully, that will hold up, obviously, led which is and Hoka being [indiscernible] brands. So that's really a good sign for us.

Chamithri Ratnapala

analyst
#21

Great. And then just on that lifestyle. And obviously, macro would be a bigger beneficiary there than the sports brand. How do you feel about the outlook through the next few months or even a bit longer term?

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#22

Look, I think it all comes down to what's the economy doing and so on, but there's good momentum. Certainly, we've seen good momentum. Our -- one of our strongest banners at the moment, Chami, is Platypus in the past 7 weeks. We're very pleased with that. Our height business continues to hold, which is great. where we are facing some challenges with fans, which we've called out over the last couple of years. It's been very soft. But thankfully, the new products that have come in like Hoka and so on has been really, really, really positive.

Chamithri Ratnapala

analyst
#23

Perfect. And then secondly from me, looking at the new store FY '26 out of Sports Direct at least 30. What are you prioritizing here outside that key banner outside the key Sports Direct punnets?

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#24

I think there's still great growth in larger Skechers stores, where we've tried a couple, they're being solid. Given what's going on with anything sport, and we're very happy with what's going on in Athlete's Foot. We will look to convert some of our current bigger stores into Athlete's Foot and indeed look for new ones based on what we're seeing. So I guess that's where the growth will be. But by the time you get 4 or 5 Stylerunners, 4 or 5 new leases there's 10 stores right there. I think it's going to get down to, Chami, we're driving pretty hard negotiations with our landlords that if we can't get the right metrics, we simply won't do it. We're in no rush to just be at on a mad run to open more stores, they have to hit the metrics. But there's great opportunity. On top of that, we've opened a couple of Hoka stores in the last couple of weeks, one we opened yesterday, and we're seeing pretty strong results out of those stores. So there's -- there's a pipeline of stuff that we can do there. Also, I can add that we're in the market at the moment, looking for the cost stores. So by the time you add all of those up, we should easily achieve what our aspirations are in new store openings.

Operator

operator
#25

Our next question comes from Sam.

Sam Teeger

analyst
#26

Just on the guidance, just to be firm. So it sounds like in the region of $118 million to $120 million of EBIT on the $110 million is what you're thinking is high single digit. Just given there was a one-off on the $110 million, so we're on the same page?

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#27

Yes. That's a fair assumption, Sam, given the projection there for low -- sorry, high single-digit growth into FY '26. Mathematically, $118 million is high single-digit growth.

Sam Teeger

analyst
#28

Okay. And can you sort of give further color on the start cost from what that includes marketing team and other components? And any numbers around that just to help us understand what that is within that guidance.

Matthew Durbin

executive
#29

Yes, no problem. Look, I won't provide any numbers. However, the types of costs that are occurring incurred ahead of the curve are clearly standing up a team to get the stores launched. There's buying teams, there's planning that needs to be done. The store operations, back-end warehouse operations. So there's quite a bit of investment that goes into that, some of the CapEx, some of it OpEx. And then marketing is also a big cost when you're trying to establish a brand. So in terms of the -- I'm going to say, the ahead of the curve components, those are the 2 you're dealing with. And yes, we aiming to open 30 stores over the next sort of 3 years, you can imagine that marketing is insignificant in terms of what we're thinking about over that period of time.

Sam Teeger

analyst
#30

And when will that marketing start before the first launch? Or will you wait until you get a few stores under your belt?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#31

Yes. Concurrently, it will start with the first launch, but the investment around that first launch will be localized. Yes. very focused on that store opening and then digital. We expect the online site will open at around the same time, if not a bit earlier than the store. And yes, performance marketing other digital marketing. And then as the network starts to grow, we'd expect that, that marketing will be more broadized.

Sam Teeger

analyst
#32

It's encouraging that you've locked in look,your called out 4 stores and at least 4 stores. So it sounds like securing site surprise, you've got a good line of sight there.

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#33

Yes, Sam. I've been quite surprised. It's amazing when there's no space, but then you get a hot business coming to the market, they tend to find the space. Yes, we've got many we negotiating on at the moment, but we're really -- we're being very picky to be honest, of where we'd like to open. And of course, we need the metrics to match. So at the end of the day, the consumer is going to bone. But I think what we've put together and what we're seeing coming from the Frasers Group internationally, we're excited about getting this one open.

Sam Teeger

analyst
#34

Final question for me. Just on the encouragement to see lifestyle improved. Can you talk about whether that's product-driven, macro-driven execution-driven or combination?

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#35

I think it's a combination, Sam. There's definitely more momentum. We felt it coming for the past 6, 7 weeks. Our comps have improved. And there has been a little bit more of product innovation, and we're fairly confident of what we've seen in the forward pipeline from all of our brands that there's good innovation coming, albeit a lot of it is spot sport-inspired. If -- and that sort of what the market is wanting at the moment, and that's starting to bleed into the lifestyle space, which is good news. Part of the great results coming out of high is purely chasing that trend and the likes of Platypus and so on are very close behind that now, growing in that area fast.

Operator

operator
#36

Our next question comes from Ed.

Ed Woodgate

analyst
#37

Can you hear me okay?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#38

Yes.

Ed Woodgate

analyst
#39

It was good to see the EBIT coming at the top end of the guidance range. So I was just curious, given that you provided that in June, did anything change through June? Was there any improvement in the macro environment? And then have you seen any improvement in the gross margin environment? Or is it too early to say?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#40

So a couple of comments around June. You can deduct fairly easily looking at our trading update in June and then the final comp number for the second half that the last 3 weeks of June were very challenging. And that's like a little bit of a trend of what we're seeing in that lifestyle period is when we go and sell. We're not getting the uplift that we have seen in the past year or 2. So that certainly happened. Now we've seen that trend and factor that in. It's part of the reason I'm going to say that, that guidance range was a surprise to everyone at the time there was a projection in that, that ended up coming true. So we didn't say anything we didn't expect. I'm going to say in that last 3 weeks of June, which is why we were able to hit the top end of guidance. I'm very reluctant to call out margin at the moment. We've said that we expect it to be around the same level as last year. And as we sit here right now, I'm very confident of that projection that we're only 7 weeks in.

Ed Woodgate

analyst
#41

Okay. No, that's helpful. And then you've also talked to like-for-like sales, retaining growth in FY '26. Just talk through what you think drives that as a more full price sales, more foot traffic, like which way should we be thinking there? I know you're kind of careful to say pull our margin now. But what's implied in that?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#42

I think there's a couple of things going on in the macro. So I think certainly, interest rates are going to start to help us in the back end of last year, in particular, we were cycling some sort of pretty strong comps in sketches from the prior year. That's now out of the base. And so that's positive. We're starting to say, as Daniel said, some positive momentum in plates. So there's a few things pointing to that lifestyle side of the business starting to recover and certainly the forward wholesale pipeline being strong, we feel gives us a forward read. And it's as strong as we've seen it for 18 months. So that's probably -- that's -- we say that is reflective of our others are sort of thinking about the next 6 to 9 months as well.

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#43

Ed, the other thing that we've been experiencing, which is great news for us and the industry is the average transaction has gone up in many of our banners, particularly in the hype and Stylerunner business. So that's really positive for us. A lot of it -- a lot of the reason for that is because some of the shoes and the styles that are coming in have got some performance within them. And that obviously causes an extra cost and price. But there hasn't been the resistance that I thought we may get, particularly in the last, call it, couple of months. So that hopefully would lead to easier and easier mentor to chase the comps.

Ed Woodgate

analyst
#44

And then maybe just one last one for me, and apologies if you've addressed this summer in the tiers already but just -- the comments, but the FX rate that you came to hedge for the '26 any collative there?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#45

So if you go to the chart that we provided in the back end of the slide pack, you can see that for the FY '25 year, we actualized at around sort of that 66, 65 level. Everyone could sort of observe as well as I can that over the last 6 months, the -- the dollar has been bouncing around between 63 and 65. So you can imagine that any hedging that we've done would be at around those levels. And right now, if we're buying spot, we're buying it around those levels as well. So as we come into this year, it's fair to say that currency will be a headwind year-on-year. And when we talk about maintaining the percentage margin, what's feeding into that is we are hopeful at this point that the promotional environment won't be as severe as it was last year with interest rates cuts and hopefully, the household budget song to feel a bit better. At the same time, we talked about Daniel talked there about ATVs increasing, so some price increases. And the other element is we're continuing to get benefits under the covers from the work that we're doing around vertical and distributed. And as Hoka grows, Skechers returns to growth this year. and with some other distributed brands coming in and the strength of Nude Lucy, that helps the underlying margin in the mix.

Operator

operator
#46

Our next question comes from Shaun.

Shaun Cousins

analyst
#47

Can you hear me? .

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#48

Yes, sure.

Shaun Cousins

analyst
#49

Fantastic. Maybe just to clarify the first half '26 guidance. to be in line with first half '25. And I think this might have been addressed but just to make it really clear, your first half '25 was $80.653 million. Now that included a [ $9 7 million ] gain on reversal impairment and then the $3.8 million impairment and a $2.6 million one-off, what is the dollar base that we should be looking for, please? Maybe you could just busy morning, so that's a good chart that I and others may, but certainly, we will get this wrong.

Matthew Durbin

executive
#50

No, that's a good question, Shaun. And when we talk about our results, we don't sort of talk in relation to underlying. It's just too complicated for everyone. So when we talk about flat, I'm talking about an ambition to be flat to the dollars that were delivered or the result that was delivered. So you could say that there's a small amount of underlying growth in that, but to not confuse everyone, it's the $80 million. And when we say that's there or thereabouts what we're targeting. That's the number.

Shaun Cousins

analyst
#51

Perfect. Maybe just on CODB reductions, the company you had embarked on several sort of quite effective reductions in CODB above the store level. I'm just curious around the degree of cost savings that have been possibly realized, maybe they needed to be reinvested in fiscal '25 and the degree to which any may come through in fiscal '26, please?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#52

So we continue to drive cost efficiencies in a number of areas of our business. We're still through the period this year, we were cycling through the benefits of support office head count reduction. And we will get some benefits of that. Indeed, I'm going to say in the core business in the first quarter of this year, offsetting that is that we've got start-up costs associated with Sports Direct that are coming into the first half. But the program continues to try to drive costs and aim to drive costs, and we're having success in distribution costs in marketing costs, in particular, digital marketing costs, the amount on with Google and TikTok and so forth as we have improved our owned channel data analytics that's helping us target the 10 million customers that we have in our database. We -- there is a constant battle at lease renewal that goes on to make sure that our occupancy costs remain in line as a percent to sales. You will see in the result, there was deleverage in that in the second half. And as I've maintained if we're not achieving low single-digit LFL sales growth, we have 3% to 4% inflationary factors, it's quite difficult to drive leverage on that. So if you think about our cost of doing business and the statement that we are aiming to have cost of doing business probably in line as a percentage with FY '25 as we go into FY '26, there continues to be a lot of work that has to be done under the covers to achieve that, albeit some of the inflationary pressures are starting to moderate a little. Having said that, that's a fact that the frontline TAM costs are going to go up at 3%, 3.5% again this year. And you need a couple of percent of comp size, otherwise you have to take team off the floor. And as we heard from an earlier question, we're not in the business of packing TAM off the floor for safety, but as much as anything for customer execution and good store execution.

Shaun Cousins

analyst
#53

Great. And my final question is just from on Sports Direct. Can I ask how you balance the requirement? And then maybe if you could amplify the requirement for Sports Direct, you to sort of sell brands that be it sort of Slazenger, Everlast, Lonsdale, which had sort of more of a mixed reputation in this market. How you manage the requirement to sell those brands with selling the leading brands and particularly doing the right thing by your own distributors in terms of sort of Deckers for the Hoka brand, which has been very well in terms of the distribution has been very judiciously managed in the appropriate sort of channels. Just curious how you sort of manage those sort of different requirements and how you put that into a store where you're sort of making each of those sort of different parties attract -- pardon me, happy and having an attractive offer for the consumer. Just curious if you could talk a bit about that pretty commit you face merchandise in the store, please?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#54

Well, I might have it first got that. And I think the best thing to do is to sort of reference the Sports Direct's global model. And they're very much about premium branded and value. And what you will find in a Sports Direct store as you'll find a terrifically branded night concept for the area which is going to have the best night boot on the wall, and we will have that in Sports Direct. And then for the parent that comes in and then wants a kid -- it's both. We will have a very keenly priced in [indiscernible], which is a brand that we're going to make great margin on. and the customer will set a value. So that's the global model, Shaun. So I don't want to say too much more other than we're going to execute, what Sports Direct do and what the brands around the world appreciate them doing.

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#55

But Shaun, I think it's a good question, too. And obviously, that was one we looked at before doing anything, but the support from all the brands, including the distributed brands that we distribute has been nothing short of great. And from our own point of view, I mean, the brands that we sell, the buyers will simply go and buy it based on the merit of the product. But all of our brands that should be in a sport store will be in the store and very strongly represented.

Operator

operator
#56

Our next question comes from Sam.

Sam Teeger

analyst
#57

Daniel, thanks for the presentation this morning. This is probably one of the softest periods I've seen Accent go through for some time outside of COVID. And to your credit, you manage costs very, very well in this period. But my sense is a lot of people have left the business recently and from all the broader cost-out initiatives undertaken, what's the risk here that would conditions rebound in the lifestyle footwear space. You won't have enough people to see the leverage and execute on the way back up or will you end up having to put back in a lot of the costs that you've taken out in recent times?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#58

Sam, that's a great question and a couple of aspects to that question. So if I think about the customer-facing aspects of our business and the engine that drives what we do with customers, both being retail customers and wholesale customers every day. That's not the areas that we've pulled back. And in fact, our TAM levels in store, store managers system store managers, area managers and we haven't touched those ranks at all. And what we've aimed to do is look at support office functions predominantly where we've been able to put in more efficiency initiatives. We've been doing offshoring as well into Vietnam and in fact, more recently into Manila in the Philippines. And we're finding great cost efficiencies in, I'm going to say, support office team doing repetitive type tasks data-driven tasks, and we've found some great savings through that area. So I don't think we'd feel uncomfortable that where LFL sales guide, there should be good leverage on that for us.

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#59

And same I can only add that I don't think the exercise was simply just to take people out. It was more of an exercise to say, well, what do we look like if we start thinking about rightsizing the business from a people point of view, I think we're largely there. And I think the -- particularly with my management team, we're in a great place. So I don't think that, that certainly won't be an excuse if we can't execute it won't be from lack of people.

Sam Teeger

analyst
#60

Sure. And then can we explore the theft issue a bit more. How is this Victorian crime situation impacting your thinking around how many sports direct stores you want in Victoria or the rents you can afford to pay in Victoria unless the police and court start to clamp down on this issue given the types of products in the Sports Direct will be much more susceptible to theft than your pure play footwear banners? And Daniel, maybe it'd be good to get your thoughts on, do you think the retail industry is doing enough effective lobbying of government to take this issue more seriously?

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#61

I don't think we've done enough as an industry now. I think we need to do more. It's all over the news. It's all over the social media. There's without any doubt issues, particularly in Victoria. And I hope the people that are qualified will do something about it. Like all the other retailers out there, like JD Sport, Anaconda and so on. We will simply follow the model of what Sports Direct are doing internationally. And on the main days, I dare say we may end up deploying security guard security at the front of stores. That seems to be a model worldwide for these big stores. So it's an area that we're going to learn and fall in line with. However, a lot of the stores, the way they're being designed, we will have a team placed at the front of the store as well, proper rostered teams. And again, it's nothing new for us. It's where we're taking lead here from Sports Direct International.

Operator

operator
#62

Our next question comes from Wei-Weng.

Wei-Weng Chen

analyst
#63

Yes. And apologies if this has been asked before. But on your guidance assumption of flat gross margins, what have you assumed regarding promotional activity in FY '26? Is it flat because you're comping an equally promotional FY '25? Or are you assuming in flat guidance that FY '26 will be less promotional?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#64

Look, it's impossible to know, but broadly flat. We think we might get some benefits in some periods in respect to margin against last year, but broadly flat I'll tell you in January.

Wei-Weng Chen

analyst
#65

Okay. And then I guess with the Sports Direct role, I appreciate you haven't even got a store up and running yet, but have you seen or heard of any sort of competitive response to the planned rollout?

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#66

No, not at all. We still supply competitors in the space, and there are many. If anything, forward orders have been quite strong. So I think there's -- I think we will have a point of difference of what we're going to market with. We're quietly very excited about what's going on with Sports Direct. I'm not sure we've sold how good we think it is based on what we're seeing overseas. But it's terribly exciting what's happening in that base for us.

Operator

operator
#67

Our next question comes from Aryan.

Aryan Norouzi

analyst
#68

Can you hear me?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#69

Yes.

Aryan Norouzi

analyst
#70

Just one for me, just the store guidance, 30 new stores. What's the assumption around store closures into '26? And sorry if you already answered this.

Matthew Durbin

executive
#71

No, that's a good question, and we haven't answered it. So we haven't put out any particular targets around store closures. The way to think -- the way we think about store closures and the way to think about them is as follows. So mathematically with our portfolio size, every year, we have 150-plus renewals that have to be negotiated store-by-store and site by site with our landlords. And our objective is that as we project out the sales of that store over the renewal period and what we think the EBIT is going to be, we have to be confident we can make a return on investment. And ultimately, we know pretty well what the sales are going to be. So the balancing number is the rent. And where we can't achieve the rental outcomes that we need and then that still has to close. And we're quite disciplined about that. One of the reasons for, I guess, breaking down the closures we had in FY '25 was to give you a sense that 18 -- roughly 18 stores closed in FY '25 as an outcome of those negotiations. And as a portion of the renewals we were doing, you can estimate that, that's about 10%. So that's I can't project what is actually going to close because it will be an outcome of all of those negotiations as we get into this next year. They're going well. We're actually getting more wins than not in that space, which is terrific. But there will be some that close. And we've got another 150 renewals to do over the next 12 months.

Aryan Norouzi

analyst
#72

And with those stores that you're closing and you typically close in the EBITDA like positive stores, are they all loss-making and you actually get a benefit in the P&L when we close it versus...

Matthew Durbin

executive
#73

Typically, they're loss-making or very marginally profitable is the answer. So that's where you closed 18 stores that aren't gray opened 54 that theoretically should be and generally are, and you should get a benefit from that overall.

Aryan Norouzi

analyst
#74

Cool. And then in the accounts, there's that $3.5 million gain on lease modification. Like is that -- what's that in this year? And is that factored into finance when you're looking at the growth and the sort of drag you have on year-on-year growth, please?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#75

Look, without sort of speaking specifically to that gain or other, I'm going to say, one-offs that were in the P&L. It goes back to the answer that I gave earlier. We don't tend to look at one-offs and worry too much about them at that sort of level. So in terms of the guidance for next year, again, it's on the dollars that we delivered this year. In any given year in a business our size, you're going to have some things that are positive and some things that go against you and on balance, they tend to even out over the continuum.

Aryan Norouzi

analyst
#76

Great. Last one quickly. The second half '25 result, in my mind, you would have had costs associated with Sports Direct in terms of just the due diligence ramp-up of it? Like to what extent did that dilute your performance? Because that's not an underlying cost. I guess you haven't generated revenue out of that yet. And to what extent is Glue drag on your EBIT this year as well, please?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#77

Yes. So in respect of sports direct immaterial in the second half, which is why we sort of haven't called anything out in the accounts in respect to that. But clearly, there will be some transaction costs associated and so forth, but nothing that's worth shouting out. Glue remains a drag on the EBIT for the second half. And we'd like to be able to say that it's better, but it was loss-making in the second half.

Operator

operator
#78

We have a follow-up question from Garth. It looks like Garth might be having some audio issues. [Operator Instructions] I'll just pause briefly to see if we have any additional questions from our attendees.

Garth Francis

analyst
#79

You can hear me. All right. Just on the loyalty program, it looked like there was a partnership with Live Nation recently. Could you just talk to what the -- whether there's a big cost to yourselves to do that? And any margin impact that we should expect? Or and if that is -- and just how your -- maybe the response to that has been?

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#80

Yes, there is a cost to that. It's within the Platypus budget in terms of what they're doing with their marketing spend. in terms of what it will do for us. It's essentially Platypus teaming up with the music side of what happens in the youth market, in the youth area, and Platypus has always been synonymous with what goes on with music. So it's just an exciting time. But yes, there is a cost.

Garth Francis

analyst
#81

Okay. And then maybe if you could just one last one on Sports Direct, just the -- or the royalty fee that you've got to pay them. Can you give us a sense of how impactful that is going to be to your gross margin going forward? And previously, you had highlighted a goal of hitting 57%. Is that 56.5% as a result? Or can you give us a sense of that?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#82

So that, I'm going to say, target that you referred to is at a group level, being 57%. And I don't think we're backing away from that ambition in the mix of our overall business. Having said that, Sports Direct does what we want, it may well be difficult to get to that sort of percent, but that won't be a bad thing. I'm not going to comment on the royalties other than we feel as though we're going to be able to generate a decent gross margin in the Sports Direct business because of the mix of our distributed brands and the Frasers brands and what they'll do in that business.

Operator

operator
#83

And we do have a follow-up question from Wei-Weng.

Wei-Weng Chen

analyst
#84

Just wanted to go back to guidance again very quickly. So high single-digit growth. It's not necessarily dissimilar to kind of where the market is at the moment. Just really want to understand, I guess, what your confidence level is on achieving that? And then the other thing, a follow-up question was you guys don't typically give guidance a year ahead. I guess, why have you decided to give guidance this time around?

Matthew Durbin

executive
#85

Yes. So that's a really good question. I'm happy to answer that part of the confidence level, again, I'll tell you in January, but if we didn't have some confidence, it would be irresponsible for us to put that out today when so I'll leave that there. The reason that we've elected to put guidance at this time is to make sure that we're not dealing with, I'm going to say, over ambitious forecasts. And we wanted to base everyone realistically around last year is sends a new base for us. We had hoped that wasn't the case, as we set our objectives for FY '25 of FY '24. However, it's clear that it is. And we wanted to play very strongly that people should only expect high single-digit growth. and not more. And indeed, not let's say the follower. Yes.

Operator

operator
#86

Thank you very much. As we have no additional questions, that brings our Q&A session to a close. I'll hand back to the Accent Group team for any closing remarks.

Daniel Agostinelli

executive
#87

Thank you all for your time, and hope you have a great day and a great weekend. Thank you. .

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