Adagene Inc. (ADAG) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 10, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Matthew Harrison
analystGreat. Good afternoon, everybody, and thanks for joining us for the next session. I'm Matthew Harrison, one of the biotech analysts here at Morgan Stanley. Very pleased to have Adagene with us for the next session. Before we get started, I need to read a quick disclosure statement. Please note that all important disclosures, including personal holdings disclosures and Morgan Stanley disclosures, appear on the Morgan Stanley public website at morganstanley.com/research disclosure. So with that, pleased to introduce Peter Luo, the CEO of Adagene. And Peter, I know you want to make some opening comments, so I'll turn it over to you for that. And then we can get into Q&A.
Peter P. Luo
executiveThanks, Matthew. And thanks, everyone, for your time. And today, I'd like to take this opportunity to walk you through a few highlights about Adagene. And here the investment highlights, I'd like to walk you through the opportunities Adagene presents. First of all, we are a platform company, and we have 3 platforms around antibody engineering. And with these 3 platforms, we have created 3 global clinical assets under the NEObody clinical assets, which is an agonist 41BB agonist, ADG106 anti-CTLA4 antibodies against a unique epitope. We also have our 4c in the clinics, we call the ADG126 against CTLA4 targets, and there are more coming around Safebody coming from this platform. And finally, we do have this POWERbody pipeline coming from the POWERbody platform. We recently announced we have 5 IND labeling program, and some of them are already well into the IND labeling process. And also, we show some partnership, and right now mainly around our platform with global partners and the commenced Chinese partners, and we also continue building our leadership team. So those are the highlights. And I'd like to also introduce the platform here with a little bit of details. Our NEObody platform is the technology that allows us to target some very unique epitope. And in this case, epitope conserved between mouse, monkey and human. And this unique epitope not only give us a broad business cost activity, it also brings some very unique biology about those targets. For example, the CTLA4 and the 4-1BB targets allow us to balance the safety and efficacy. And with the SAFEbody platform, we'll be able to only activate the antibody in tumor microenvironment. This will widen the therapeutic index or target like a CTLA4. And with our POWERbody platform, we take advantage of the Safebody give us to those modalities. Only allow those either Fc-enhanced or the T cell engagers or ADCs, the kind of modality only activate those performability in tumor microenvironments. So those are the core technology we are going to use and help our partners and ourselves to create highly differentiated products. So these are the collaborations we have done so far. As you can see, the SAFEbody platform allow us to create a lot of partnership, especially in ADC modality with our global partner from the Japanese partner, Tanabe, ADC Therapeutics in Switzerland and Exelixis in the U.S. and we'll continue this partnership and with some big global partners. And with our NEObody technology, we work with NIH, Celgene and GSK to create very unique molecules against those tricky targets on those unique epitopes. And we've also outlicensed some pipelines to domestic Chinese partners and 2 programs to the Sanjin Group. One is about nontargeted PD-L1 and level target, about other targets and enter into the clinic, and we will also work with Henry. So our 3 clinical programs, our ADG116 which we've shown here in this picture compared with EP in the purple colored one crystal structure, our green colored antibody crystal structure here, a small change in epitope with a big change in biology and the mechanism actions. We'd like to share with you some of that excitement in our clinical development. And also the SAFEbody, which was the masking binding site against the CTLA4 target, pushout at sort of a bigger window, even much larger than typically can be achieved for this target. And of course, our 4-1BB agonist we show here in the crystal structure in the green colored one compared to the BMS molecule on the top and the Pfizer molecule in the bottom. Here, again, we show this new epitope can bring the safety and efficacy in this challenging target. And with the 3 clinical collaboration with Merck, we recently announced and in combination with KEYTRUDA, and we're excited for this opportunity. Of course, the endorsement by Merck for the differentiation we bring in for the CTLA4 targets, even though they have an in-house program and also the clinical program in combination with EP. And with our 4-1BB agonist again with KEYTRUDA, as you can see, we will be able to benefit from Merck's extensive experience in combination with KEYTRUDA in the field and also we're looking into those indications, which are still challenging for PD-1 therapies, and those combinations will be exciting. As you can see, we put it here. Under the 41BB NEObody, 116, we put it here. And I think this the only target other than PD-1/PD-L1 choose monocell therapy efficacy and multiple indication in combination with PD-1. And the only IO target so far clinical proven for its efficacy by itself and also multiple combinations. There are still a lot of challenging with safety for the kind of approved therapy. In fact, there's only one approved modality so far for this target. And the challenge is really coming from the safety of the current molecule against CTLA4. By keeping this unique capital, we'll be able to come up with a much more potent molecule fivefold higher than the EP head-to-head comparison and a threefold safety in our GLP tox studies. And this is both improvement in safety and efficacy because they're targeting this unique epitope to give us a benefit in terms of how to block the target and how to come up a very strong there depletion, so there's a unique epitope really allow us to come up a very robust preclinical and clinical program. And we have launched -- we have dosed the patient right now at the 10-milligram per kilogram, perhaps the high risk dose and so far saying for the EP. And we clean up the DLT at 60PK dose level. And so far, for 22 patients, we dosed use our drug. This no drug treatment-related toxicity for Grade 3 or Grade 4. We only observed 2 Grade 2 treatment-related tox. So if you look at the historical data for EP at 3 MPK, the Grade 3 and the 4 toxicity rates about 3%. And with the dose escalation so far, the 3 patients at 3 -- another 3 and the 6 and 1 patient at 10, we didn't observe any grade 3 tox, so far. So we think this safety profile definitely compare favorably with the historical data, and we'll be able to report the top line data this year for the dose escalation and also the cohort expansion data at the 6 MPK this year. The next program is -- I basically just walk you through this very quickly, how we compare with EP head to head, right, at the dose level. We are basically 5x more potent than the EP here. and the mechanism is really the Treg in the tumor micro environment and the low defense in the PBM and the kidney. And so there's very strong ADCC effect compared to the EP and a soft [indiscernible] compared to the EP in the green color that we shared here, the green color molecules. So our SAFEbody program and with this masking. And so far, we are dosing about 10 patients, and we are dosing patients now at 3MPK, and we'll continue reporting this dose escalation data about this SAFEbody program and other things. And I have to say those clinical progress are very exciting for us for this target that we've known for years. And this SAFEbody again, we show not only safe, they're also active against the tumor models shown here. When they combine with PD-1, that really shows nice combination with PD-1, like our NEObody, and also the safety profile in that combination is also very robust in our preclinical models. Again, it's key expectations. So those are the GLP tox data we published. And I refer to you to look at this data and compare data published by BMS last year in the ASCO. As you can see, we'll be able to dose the monkeys at the 30-milligram per kilogram without the serious damage to the monkeys and the 200-milligram per kilogram, our safe masking market antibody. Those data compare very favorably with EP and the EP probody, ADCC enhanced the EP probodies. So our 4-1BB agonist, we have published extensively about our dose escalation data and include some dose cohort expansion data. Again, we show this epitope can make a difference in balance safety and efficacy. We have been able to dose cohort expansion at the 3 and the 5 PK much higher than other reported. And with this one of the high stable disease rate, the 56% for monotherapy, some partial response from our drugs. And we think we are making some breakthrough in this agonist antibody against this challenging targets. And again, we have a public extensively for the PD markers we show for NGL, soluble CD137 and the correlation with the clinical response and the predictable market related to the tumor shrinkage with this proprietary biomarkers. And finally, our exciting pipelines about our differentiated CD47 in terms of efficacy and the safety and the issues related to other modality around this target and our bispecific T cell engagers. And I basically will end my talk here and put some major catalyst event here for your reference, and I'm open for some Q&A section. Thank you for your attention.
Matthew Harrison
analystAll right. Thank you, Peter. Appreciate those introductory comments. Why don't we go through a couple of items. So maybe the first thing we started is with the NEObody CTLA-4. I think one of the things that you've highlighted in the past is about ADCC and that improving efficacy. So maybe you could just comment on why you think that's different and why you think no one else has done that in a target like this before.
Peter P. Luo
executiveOkay. Yes. So Matthew, it's great. I think that this is really related to our platforms because although we've shown you here, our NEObody platform, we'll be able to come up a very level design for antibodies. And we basically leverage, we call the AI power antibody same platform. This really allows us to come with a design with the same sequence, others with a confirmational diversity in the CDR regions. And what this allows us to do is this dynamic pending target allow us to engage target like a CTLA in a very novel way. And this adaptivity not only creates the cost of activity, which is very challenging in general for antibody engineering. And also, we show here the epitope we created here, right? And we created this epitope. This coming to blocking the leak and bend with CT4 under CD80 and A6, very different from the EP. And not only that, the same isotype, IgG 1, we show a huge difference between the ADCC effect from our antibody compared to the EP.
Matthew Harrison
analystOkay, okay. That's helpful. And then I guess you highlighted sort of the dose levels that you're through and especially those dose levels compared to EP, maybe just remind people about how many additional dose levels and where you think you can get to. And then I think maybe more importantly, what that potentially gives you from a combination standpoint because, obviously, the combination here is what everybody is interested in.
Peter P. Luo
executiveAbsolutely, yes. So currently, what those are the patients at 10 MPK, this is an original high risk dose we intend to do. But given the robust safety profile we have seen, we revised the protocol to go up to 20. So yes. And of course, in combination measures, just like you mentioned, in the field, what people do is usually do one dose level lower than the dose you have at DLT currents. So currently, we already cleaned up the dose, right, BOT clean up 6 MPK. So we can do dose articulation at 3 MPK. But because when dose are the patients that are right now at the 10 MPK, if we think up 10 MPK, that means we should be able to do the combination dose at the 6 MPK.
Matthew Harrison
analystYes. Okay, okay. Got it. And then I guess the follow-up to that is, obviously, you have both the NEObody and the SAFEbody against the same target, is there a reason that you take both of these forward? Or would you expect the SAFEbody to have the same kind of efficacy as the NEObody, but potentially because of the consistent activation be able to even dose higher?
Peter P. Luo
executiveYes. So absolutely. So we know our SAFEbody has a very good safety profile. This sort of safe window is so much larger, right, because we show in this GLP-tox data here. At the 200 MPK, the monkey are perfectly happy. And so -- but if you look at the efficacy, our SAFEbody is as not as part of the NEObody because of the way we're marking it and activate, right? But what we find that is interesting is because given this much therapeutic vendors, we can dose in the animal at a higher dose, for example. We can achieve the same efficacy just like our NEObody if we increase the dose a little higher monotherapy. But what's interesting is if you look at the combination, the same dose level, our SAFEbody, not a lot of the potent or the NEObody, but when they combine with the PD-1, no defects in the efficacy, the combinations. And we will also have begin show the low actual safety singular add to that combination. So basically, just like you said, Matthew, we do we have the flexibility to dosing the patients higher because with this safety, and we also have this flexibility to combine with PD-1 with a better safety combination in these combinations and allow us to adjust the dose and the flexibility, again, in that combination, too. Because the endpoint is we don't want to leave any efficacy on the table, right, which has been an issue I have seen in a lot of EP level combination because of the safety concern even though we know the 3 MPK is a better combination with, say, PD-1 because of the safety concern and the people have to settle with a low dose, for example, 4 MPK, even longer duration. For example, in lung cancer, 6 weeks, in the last few weeks.
Matthew Harrison
analystRight, right. Okay. So then you're going to do combinations with both the SAFEbody and the NEObody with pembro next year. So I guess it sounds like you want to see if there's any differentiation between those combinations before you decide on what one may be the better concept?
Peter P. Luo
executiveYou're right.
Matthew Harrison
analystOkay, okay. Good, good. Maybe can we talk about 4-1BB and then maybe we'll have a minute or 2 for CD47. So 4-1BB, look, I mean, I guess the top question here is you've clearly demonstrated activity previously in your dataset, but you've also talked about a biomarker approach to enrich the population. So maybe just give people about a sense of the path forward here. And what sort of data we should be expecting to get from the monotherapy studies?
Peter P. Luo
executiveOkay, yes. So for the monotherapy data, and we sort of with -- in total, we have a dosing patients of 98 patients from both U.S. and Chinese patients. And we do have a lot of PK and also other biomarker data and not yet published. And so we are -- because we will be able to fit the both populations from the U.S. and the Chinese stations, and we see no difference, and those population PK simulations also tell us the recommended dose for more therapies. And of course, the dosage we used for combinations. So those are data we plan to release in some major clinical conference about details about those data. And also, I should say, right now, we are doing combination with the PD-1 in China and in dose escalations. We have seen very strong T cell activation through that combination. And of course, under this PK data and the PD data also, we have seen some very interesting observation from that model onto the combos and for those PD marker changes and dose-dependent manner. And of course, the PK goes with that. So we'd like to publish some of those data, again, in the major clinical conference. And I should say, one of the excitement is about the biomarkers. And because those biomarkers were shown from basically the patient samples from both U.S. and China, and some of the tumor types can reach extremely high expression levels up to, say, 40% to 50%. And the trends of those indications are more sensitive to PD-1 therapies. So those are exciting combination studies we're looking into, and of course, monotherapy studies in combination with PD-1. So those are exciting, we're pursuing ourselves and together with our partner like Merck because those indications are highly unmet medical needs.
Matthew Harrison
analystOkay. Good. That's helpful, Peter. And I guess, maybe could you also just comment on the competitive profile here, right? You've got 4-1B PD-1, PD-L1 bispecifics out there. You've got a range of -- there are people looking at 4-1BB, IL-12, IL-15 agonist, right? There's all kinds of competition out there. So maybe just, how do you think about the landscape?
Peter P. Luo
executiveYes. Let's say, again, that's a very interesting areas. And we do love some of the PD-1 or PD-L1 bispecific. We found that those are interesting because we are doing the combination in that the space. And I think we measure, so I sort of would say we need to come back to the fundamental biology of the 4-1BB. I think people should go to the bispecific space really based on the biology reasons why the users bispecific, and this inevitably has to answer the fundamental biology about the 4-1BB. What we've shown here in our studies and some things we already published. Our antibody targets this unique epitope is blocking the ligand and ligand on this epitope completely, not a Pfizer molecule, not a BMS molecule if you look at the crystal structure published by them. So we know having a competitive ligand-blocking competitor agonist to this target, so we'll be able to activate this target in a ligand-like fashion. So it's kind of a safe and education in that way. Of course, there's a cost linking effect, which are usual from, say, PD-1 and other kind of targets. And that cost linking, also an important factor people should consider. So with our antibody, we're trying to balance those things. And so we show, in fact, in monotherapy, agonist is safe, unlike -- so people worry about agonist may not be safe. We show it's safe. It can be to coexpansion at the dose level like 3 and 5 PK, no issues, right? But in terms of those bispecific combinations, we found the gene map data are interesting, especially when they show some response data indications and indications we already know and the indication people don't yet quite know, and we pay a lot of attention to those indications because those things could correlate with the biomarkers we found in our antibodies. And we do find some interesting correlation in those observations. And of course, we'd like to say if our combination data also shows consistent with the bispecific constructs. We have bispecific constructs, but at least in our hand, we didn't see any synergy from the bispecific construct compared to the combinations.
Matthew Harrison
analystOkay, okay. Good. Well, Peter, maybe just in the last minute or 2, we can touch on CD47. And just I think for everybody's benefit, just talk about the differentiating properties versus the leading CD47 that Gilead has as well as Pfizer's efforts.
Peter P. Luo
executiveExactly. We -- definitely, we found Gilead and also recent Pfizer deal are very excited in the space and together with others. So I basically want to talk about several points. The first point I should say, if you look at the recent Pfizer deals compared to other CD47 modalities, I think one major defense is the reason the Pfizer deal, they do show monotherapeutic effect with a respectable response rate, right, monotherapy. And while if you look at most of the antibodies, they did the marginal monotherapy effect, mostly through combinations. And we think it's important in the checkpoint space to demonstrate other monotherapy effect. Okay? That's the first comment. The second comment is about the safety. And we do -- I think we do notice this safety profile has something to do with the epitope. If you look at the 47 and also others, they have shown a different epitope, may give a different profile, different from 47 molecules, and we'd have to see the primate test. And in our antibody, we show this level that we identified is a very different safety profile in terms of hemocultation and all those effects and that we show nice dose dependence. And of course, with our [indiscernible], well, we're able to come in to address those safety issues in even more powerful ways. And also we show a very, very favorable PK/PD in our molecules in the monkey studies. And so we basically say, not only do you want to address the safety issues, you also have to make sure your molecule still has the efficacy you want to show. So with our SAFEbody technologies, and we definitely can address those different Fc functional side, right? So this allows us really come up a molecule with the potency we want to see, and it's still with the safety profile, so much higher than we have observed compared to other things. And also -- and we've also Adagene think in a very robust way, so the robust PK and PD profile.
Matthew Harrison
analystWell, good. Well, great. Peter, thank you for being here. Thank you for your comments. Very nice to see you.
Peter P. Luo
executiveThank you, Matthew, and thanks, everyone.
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