ADC Therapeutics SA (ADCT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 11, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Lee Hung
analystWelcome to the Morgan Stanley Global Healthcare Conference. I'm Jeff Hung, one of the biotech analysts. For important disclosures, please see the Morgan Stanley research disclosure website at www.morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. If you have any questions, please reach out to your Morgan Stanley sales representatives. For this session, we have ADC Therapeutics with CEO, Ameet Mallik. Welcome to Ameet.
Ameet Mallik
executiveThank you.
Lee Hung
analystSo maybe for those who are not as familiar with the ADC Therapeutics, can you provide a brief introduction?
Ameet Mallik
executiveSure. Well, first of all, thanks for having me here. It's great to be here with you. Yes. So just to give you an overview of the company. We're a commercial stage antibody-drug conjugate focused company, really with 3 pillars of our strategy. The first is centered on our commercial product Zynlonta, where we believe we have significant opportunity to create value with the assets, both with our current indication in the third line and third-line plus setting but also as we move into earlier lines of therapy in novel combinations. Second, we have a PBD-based clinical pipeline, where we have 3 different assets currently in Phase I that we'll read out initial data next year. And then finally, we have a research platform that's working on novel antibody constructs, novel payloads, multiple different payloads, many of which are going to start -- we'll be sharing more data on the research platform next year. Now beyond our current strategy, I'll just dive deep at least into Zynlonta. We have 3 different waves of growth. First, as I mentioned, is our third line and third line plus setting. We know that currently, it's a very fragmented market. There's no current standard of care and you see very different treatment dynamics between the academic and the community setting. There's still a lot of R-based therapy, a lot of systemic chemo being used in that settings. And we think there's an opportunity to establish Zynlonta as a standard of care. Next, we have our LOTIS-5 study, which is a study between Zynlonta and rituximab in the second-line plus setting. We just announced data last week with an updated data from the first 20 patients of our safety lead-in data, which showed an overall response rate of 80%, CR rate of 50% with the PFS of 8.3 months and importantly, no new safety signals. Then finally, we're doing a study called LOTIS-7 combining Zynlonta with different bispecifics. So we're setting both with glofitamab and mosunetuzumab, both in follicular, marginal zone and DLBCL. We're doing a dose escalation right now. That study has kicked off, [indiscernible] through of that. So there's multiple ways to drive growth within Zynlonta. And then finally, as I say, we have cash roughly of $348 million as of the end of second quarter. So we have a cash from one way that goes into the middle of 2025 and multiple value-driving catalysts, both with Zynlonta, our clinical pipeline and our research platform that will occur over the next 12 to 15 months.
Lee Hung
analystGreat. So let's start with Zynlonta. Given how competitive the evolving market dynamics are, what do you see as the potential for Zynlonta in third-line DLBCL?
Ameet Mallik
executiveYes. I think the peak potential certainly is over a $100 million. Peak opportunity -- we think it could be somewhere in the $100 million to $200 million range in terms of peak sales opportunity. As I mentioned, there is no standard of care and where you see a lot of CAR-T use in the academic setting that's moving into the second line setting. There's still some third-line use. And really, it's evolving landscape in a lot more competition in that third line setting post CAR-T. When you look at the community, that's not the case. Only about 25% of patients who is in -- who would qualify for a CAR-T ever get to a CAR-T in any line of therapy. You still see the predominant use of either systemic-based chemo or R-based regimen. And so there's still a huge opportunity to establish, I think, a standard of care there. That's where we see our biggest growth opportunity. And we think the profile of our compound fits particularly well. When you look at the patient split, about 40% of patients are in a academic setting, that's where a lot of this new competition sort of emerging but about 60% of the patients are in the community. So that's a big opportunity for Zynlonta.
Lee Hung
analystAnd maybe you could clarify on that last point. So then how do you think about the potential growth in the academic versus community settings.
Ameet Mallik
executiveYes, I think we'll see even more growth in the community setting because I think the academic environment, while we think there's clearly still a place Zynlonta to play, that's where it's more competitive with bispecifics and other new regimens, even clinical trials. You see clinical trials taking up a lot of patients when you get to later the last refractory setting. And that's been the case since the launch. I think the bigger opportunity where you're going to see less CAR-T, less bispecifics and less clinical trials in the community setting. So that's where we see the majority of our future growth potential.
Lee Hung
analystOkay. And earlier in the year, you adjusted your go-to-market model. So I guess, how is that different than what you had before? And then you've also announced that the implementation took longer than you expected. Can you just talk about this? And how far along do you think you are in implementing the new commercial model.
Ameet Mallik
executiveYes. What's clear is that the health care market for oncology has changed dramatically in the last few years. And just the level of new product entry makes it much more difficult for a community physician to keep track of every single products coming out. DLBCL, I think is one of the most competitive dynamic markets there is. If you're a community doctor, you're seeing a lot of breast cancer, lung cancer, colorectal, prostate, you don't see a lot of the DLBCL patients in your practice day to day. And there's some therapies like CAR-T that you can't really give in the community. So by definition, you're much more interlinked with the academic centers that are local to you. So I'll just give you an example of how we changed the model. Before, in an example like Florida, we would have 3 different reps calling on the state independently, kind of dividing the state on 1/3, 1/3. But we know there's an interlink. We know that you have big centers like Florida Cancer that are about 50% of the community centers in all of Florida, you have Moffitt, which is one of the biggest CAR-T centers in the State, University of Miami, also a big CAR-T in top academic site. And those sites, by the way, have been building up, particularly University of Miami, a lot of community centers, too. They've been buying up and going north. So it's not as simple as a rep just calling on a doctor. You have to think about the account level as well. So now we formed in the case of Florida, 3 persons seems we have an account manager calling on those big site of care with 2 different reps, calling on satellite and community offices in a much more coordinated way because how physicians in the community are accessing information, they're not always going to the big conferences. So they're getting a lot of their influence from those academic physicians, from local symposia, from local programs. And so our teams are coordinating in a much more coordinated way across the academic and community centers within a local health care system. And that's how we reorganize the teams. Now we announced that we're going to start doing this in Q2. We implemented the change. It did take a little longer because we went pretty deep. 50% of the people in the organization are either new to the organization or new to their role. So it's a significant change for the organization. And obviously, during that time, you have disruption. We wanted to make sure we had all the right talent, though, not only with the right capabilities, but with the right mindset to win in a competitive market like DLBCL. We implemented that change in July, so that's when the team is off and running, and we kind of returned to normal call activity in August. So just given that time frame from sort of April until we had it fully implemented in August, there was obviously a level of disruption, but you see, especially with the product like Zynlonta, where on average, patients are getting about 4 cycles. So every quarter, we're almost getting our business almost entirely new patients. But I'd say, encouragingly, we've seen the sales force fully implemented now, call activity has resumed to where it should be. And we're seeing nice early signs in terms of new community use that we hadn't had before. So, the goal of the implementation was always to exit the year with a strong run rate to set ourselves up for '24 and 2025, and that still remains the same.
Lee Hung
analystGreat. moving to LOTIS-9. The summer, you decided to discontinue the Phase II study in unfit or for frail patients. Can you just talk about what led you deposit enrollment and ultimately discontinue the study?
Ameet Mallik
executiveYes. So just to remind you, the population within LOTIS-9, it's a fail and unfit population. So these are patients that not only couldn't get R-CHOP, typically couldn't get mini-R-CHOP either. So these are patients -- many of the patients -- most of the patients are over the age of 80 with significant respiratory and cardiovascular comorbidities. So this is a really high unmet need regulation where there aren't really good approved regimens out there. While we saw encouraging activity in those patients, we also saw grade 3 and above adverse events. So at the time when we did an aggregate review of the 40 patients, there were 12, grade are higher, adverse events mostly related to the pulmonary system. 11 of 12 -- 11 of the 12 of which were deemed to be unrelated or likely unrelated to the study drug regimen. Nonetheless, there's not really a good control group because it's very little approved. We followed these patients for 15 weeks post the last dose. And so because of that, it's very hard to compare to whether days was out there. So we took the decision. It's a very tough to treat patient population than rather than trying to cut it back even further and try to restart the study, we made the decision that it didn't -- it didn't make as much sense as a lot of the other LOTIS programs.
Lee Hung
analystAnd what kind of read through if any is there to LOTIS-5? And just to be clear, I don't mean necessarily if there's any negative read-through but also positive read-throughs in terms of the high response rates in that population. Any kind of that increases your confidence in Zynlonta in the second-line patients? Can you talk about these aspects?
Ameet Mallik
executiveYes. I mean, it's obviously the same combination of Zynlonta plus rituximab. So I think the activity is definitely encouraging that we saw with the combination in LOTIS-9. Obviously, it's a different patient population. Most of the patients that were in LOTIS-9 would never make it to LOTIS-5, it would be excluded because of the significance of their comorbidities. So while we have elderly patients in LOTIS-5, that's just the significant nature of the underlying comorbidities entering the trial, most of those patients would be excluded from LOTIS-5. I think also importantly, when you look at LOTIS-5, we see also encouraging initial data when we look at the safety run-in data where, again, we saw 80% overall response rate, 50% CR rate in the second line plus population. But from a safety standpoint, we haven't seen the same. So independently, the DMC for the LOTIS-5 study looked at the -- all of our data and a significant amount of patients that they looked at the end of July, and they're obviously looking at the data in an unblinded way to look at risk benefit and didn't see an issue in, so the study should continue as is, but also importantly, with the safety run-in data where there's been not a 2-year follow-up. Again, no new safety signals. So I think it's a very different patient population, although it's the same drug treatment, and we haven't seen those safety issues. But again, we've seen encouraging initial clinical activity.
Lee Hung
analystOkay. Maybe moving on to the second line DLBCL with LOTIS-5. Can you just talk about that study and how enrollment is going?
Ameet Mallik
executiveYes, sure. So it's a 350-patient study. So beyond the 20-patient safety run-in, there's a 330-patient randomized portion, randomizing either patients with Zynlonta and rituximab comparing to our R-GemOx. The study has really picked up and is enrolling actually quite well, and we're well on track to finish the enrollment next year.
Lee Hung
analystAnd you touched upon this at the beginning but maybe if you can just repeat again like you presented updated safety read in last week. So can you just highlight the key takeaways from that data?
Ameet Mallik
executiveSure. So we presented last week at Soho, a poster just showing the updated data from the first 20 patients from the safety run in and what we saw in those 20 patients was an overall response rate of 80%, a CR rate of 50%, which last year when we presented the 1-year data was 40%. So it's encouraging to see the improvement where some of the PRs converted -- 2 of the patients of the 20 where PRs converted to CR. And then the PFS was 8.3 months. Now the median follow-up was only about 10 months. So I think when you look at small sample sizes, I'm going to caution just based on that, it's only 20 patients. But I think that was encouraging but also importantly, it's a safety run-in and it confirmed that the safety of this combination was suitable for this population.
Lee Hung
analystAnd you mentioned the caution on the data based on the sample size. But maybe how should investors think about the data in the context of Part II, which you had said earlier that it's about 330 patients.
Ameet Mallik
executiveYes. Look -- I think if you look at our comparator arm, R-GemOx, again, when you look at different studies, typically has a PFS in the range of 4 to 6 months, we'll need to show roughly a 2-month difference of PFS to have a positive study.
Lee Hung
analystOkay. You're also studying novel combinations with Zynlonta. Can you just talk about the LOTIS-7 study and what you hope to see?
Ameet Mallik
executiveYes. We're really excited about the combinations, potential combinations with bispecifics. And -- like I mentioned before, we're doing a study where we're dose escalating the Zynlonta. It's going to be a fixed duration treatment, and we're combining either with glofitamab or mosunetuzumab across 3 different types of conditions. So DLBCL, follicular and marginal zone. We're currently dose escalation. The study is opened. We're -- there's a lot of interest in the study. So we're getting good enrollment. We obviously have to go through the dose escalation, which is going to vary by drug combination as well as by disease. Once we get to the right dosing, of course, we'll go into dose expansion. We think there's a real promise because when you look at just to start with glofitamab, which is approved in DLBCL since most [indiscernible] and Zynlonta, these are the 2 most potent single-agent drugs approved in DLBCL. So if you look at the bispecific class plus Zynlonta, and there's a lot of synergy across the different targets between CD19 and CD23. They're synergistic mechanism of action. The toxicity at least when you look on paper or nonoverlapping toxicity. So we think it's really promising. I mean our goal is actually to combine across all bispecific agents. And so we think LOTIS-7 is a good start to that. There's been a lot of interest in this study as well as beyond. I can tell you from investigators to keep setting with these bispecifics, but also with others as well. We think the promise can be if you can dose these agents in a way potentially to start with Zynlonta first to debulk the tumor, add on the bispecific and get the very fast action of Zynlonta combined with a very durable response of a bispecific. If you can get to highly durable CRs, its potential to have an off-the-shelf combination that can work really well, both in the academic and the community setting.
Lee Hung
analystAnd what should we look for in the initial data next year?
Ameet Mallik
executiveYes. So we are going to go through dose escalation, traditional 3x3 dosing. But as I said, it's complicated that we're looking at 2 different dosing regimens -- 2 different drug combinations plus 3 different diseases. So we certainly will get through dose escalation and then potentially be into dose expansion as well. So the first hurdle is across cost and safety, getting to the right dose and then, of course, moving on to do dose expansion and really look at the efficacy in more detail.
Lee Hung
analystGreat. Next year, you'll have data from multiple earlier stage programs reading out. Maybe if you can talk about each program and what we should expect to see from the Phase I next year. So maybe let's start with the ADCT-602.
Ameet Mallik
executiveSure. Yes. So ADCT-602 is an anti-CD22, anti-CD22 is well established within ALL, and that's where we're starting the drug. We've presented, well, MD Anderson, who's the partner that we have on this program presented some encouraging early data last year at ASH, where there are 4 different patients who had CRs, many of which had MRD-negative disease. And that was encouraging to see because many of these patients were 6 or 7 lines after, in some cases, multiple [indiscernible] transplants, even prior CD22 therapy. So these were heavily pretreated patients to sort of see CRs and even MRD negative responses was significant we thought in that patient population. We continue to dose expand. So MD Anderson and City of Hope are both in the trial. It's expanding to other sites. But we're also going to dose escalate because we're not sure that we've even hit the dose. The tolerability is very good. Importantly, I think the unmet need here is to have a highly potent CD22 that doesn't have VoD, and we haven't seen any VoD, which I think is a really important differentiation in this market. But we're going to dose escalate. The protocol is being amended and finalized right now to be able to dose escalate to the next dosing level. And so we expect to share data in the first half of next year from the dose expansion as well as some of the dose escalation.
Lee Hung
analystOkay. And then how about ADCT-901.
Ameet Mallik
executiveYes. So ADCT-901 is targeting CAG 1, which is a novel target. This is, I would say -- I would call it a more high risk, high reward program because it's a very novel target where there's a lot less understood about the biology. Nonetheless, we've seen that there's overexpression on a number of different solid tumors like cholangiocarcinoma, triple-negative and others. And so we're studying it right now in an unselected population to try to get to the right dosing level. We're looking at different dosing combinations also just informed by the PK/PD data and also as well as just [indiscernible] we know we need to get the dosing levels right. And then once we get to the right dosing level, the plan would be if we see good data to expand. So we'll be sharing depending on when we get through dose escalation, whatever data we have by the first half of next year.
Lee Hung
analystOkay. And then maybe lastly, ADCT-601?
Ameet Mallik
executiveYes. So ADCT-601 is targeting AXL. This is one where we think the potency of our payload is going to be differentiating and potentially have a higher therapeutic index. And so we're excited about this program. We're currently looking at 2 different monotherapy cohorts, both in sarcoma as well as non-small cell lung cancer. In an unselected patient population to get to the right dosing level, the idea would be once we get to the dose, our biomarkers being under the final stage of the validation and then we would go to our selected population when we do the dose expansion. So we've gone through multiple dose cohorts, once we get to the right dosing, again, and the biomarker has been validated, we will move to a selected patient population and dose expansion. And again, we'll share the data that we have in the first half of the year -- next year.
Lee Hung
analystYou recently amended the study to focus only on non-small cell lung cancer and sarcoma. Is that right?
Ameet Mallik
executiveYes, which is the focus before as well. I think the focus is first to start with monotherapy, to get the right dosing level. Then to move an expansion with monotherapy in a selected population. Ultimately, we will move to combination before we're doing combination data in parallel but we want to get single-agent activity first, move to a selected patient population and then likely across different tumors, potentially beyond sarcoma and lung cancer move to combinations as well.
Lee Hung
analystOkay. And then for both 601 and 901, can you just give us an update on the biomarker assay? What have you been able to show with it and what is the promise for the biomarker assay?
Ameet Mallik
executiveYes. So starting with 601. The biomarker is well underway. So it will be ready in time to do the dose expansion, and that's going to be part of how we select patients going forward for our dose expansion and also 901 is well under development in the final stages of validation.
Lee Hung
analystOkay. And then can you talk about Cami, any updates on potential partnership discussions.
Ameet Mallik
executiveYes, we continue to have discussions. So no update right now. But as you know, we announced last year the focus to externalize the program and not to continue to do that as a preference. But we've continued activities with the program and there were a number of files from the FDA, obviously. So we've continued along with that activity. But the preference is to partner that program, and we're in discussions right now.
Lee Hung
analystOkay. And can you just remind us of the IP for Zynlonta?
Ameet Mallik
executiveSure. Yes. So we have a pretty robust IP portfolio, including our composition of matter patent that runs until 2035 in the U.S. So pretty healthy runway.
Lee Hung
analystOkay. Anything we missed? Or what do you think that the street most misunderstands about ADC Therapeutics.
Ameet Mallik
executiveYes. I think it's one that you have Zynlonta, which is an approved product. And as we move into the second-line setting, if we get to the $250 million, $300 million peak range, it's a breakeven company. So there's a path towards breakeven to profitability with an asset that's already approved. Then when you add in the combination with bispecifics, if they work, this has a potential to take Zynlonta to over $0.5 billion drug potential. 3 clinical Phase I assets that are going to start reading out next year. And then our research platform, which is diversified well beyond our current payload and the multiple different payloads and targets, and then we're a company -- we're one of the only handful of companies that's actually taken the product all the way from research to approval. And that's no small feat, I could tell you in the ADC space beyond just the research and development capabilities, the CMC and manufacturing capabilities that you need to actually get something over the finish line is not trivial in the ADC space. So I think we're fairly derisked with still a good cash runway. As I said, we ended Q2 with $348 million, which takes us being able to fund all of these programs through mid-2025.
Lee Hung
analystGreat. Well, looks like we'll have to leave it there. Thank you so much for your time.
Ameet Mallik
executiveThank you so much. Appreciate it.
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