Addiko Bank AG (ADKO) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

March 5, 2020

Vienna Stock Exchange AT Financials Banks earnings 66 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Razvan Munteanu

executive
#1

Hello, this is Razvan Munteanu. I'm the CEO of Addiko Bank, and I welcome all the participants joining the Addiko Bank Earnings Call for the 2019 results. I'm joined on this call by Johannes Proksch, CFO; Edgar Flaggl, Head of Investor Relations. And as we are at the presentation for the year-end '19 results, I have Markus Krause and Csongor Németh from the group management board, sitting here with us for the Q&A session. During this call, we will inform you of our results in 2019, the developments since our previous call. Johannes will provide details on financial results and key risk metrics for 2019. At the end, as usual, we'll open the floor to questions from the audience. Please go now to Page #4. In line with the results presented in quarter 3 and the publication of our preliminary results for 2019, we are very proud to complete 2019 delivering a 32% improvement of our adjusted results after tax at EUR 40.7 million. The adjustment includes positive and negative one-off effects, which we carefully assessed as being linked to the transformation and nonrecurring. They were carefully reviewed with auditors by Johannes and the team. Johannes can provide more details a little bit later in this call. The reported result after tax for 2019 is at EUR 35.1 million. We see this as a solid achievement. It's the third profitable year. This includes the negative effect from the Swiss franc conversion law in Serbia and legal provisions in Croatia related to historic Swiss franc loans. It also includes the cost of preparing and executing the IPO in July last year. The transitional CET 1 is at 17.7%. This is including 2019 profit and the proposed dividend distribution. The risk profile continued to improve, with NPE ratio down to 3.9% now, illustrating an excellent portfolio of quality with limited risk concentration. 93% of our loan exposure is current, so it doesn't have any days past due. This reflects our prudent approach to our business strategy. We continued our efforts in the direction of digital transformation. Digital users increased 18% compared to 2018. More important, the business origination through digital channels accelerated, 9% of unsecured lending volume came through digital channels and 13% of SME volumes in Slovenia and Serbia came from the automated lending tool. This has also helped us reduce the average ticket size in SME from EUR 217,000 in 2018 to EUR 190,000 in 2019, while growing the book at stable yields. Let's continue on Page 5. As indicated in previous calls -- previous announcements and calls, we continued our dialogue with the regulators in Austria in order to identify the optimal measures demonstrating that our risk profile is factually better than the current capital requirements would suggest. There is already a 20 basis points reduction from the Pillar 2 requirements from the draft to the latest SREP letter, maintaining it at 2000 -- maintaining at the 2019 level of 4.1%. A well-prepared action plan is ongoing to address feedback from regulators with the objective to see progress reflected in the next SREP rounds, which is expected during the autumn. We will propose to the AGM the distribution of EUR 40 million dividend, which is EUR 2.05 per share. This is in line with the guidance we gave at the time of the IPO. We have also revisited the mid-term targets in the context of continued low interest rate environment and newly introduced consumer lending restrictions. They remain, to a large extent, in line with prior communication. More material adjustments relates to the effect of the persistent low interest rate environment, and approximately 1 year longer time horizon to reach the guidance level. Johannes will provide further details during the call today. Please move on to Page #6. Our straightforward business model to become a specialist focused on consumer lending and SME banking is reflected by the transformation of our book. The key to our value creation model is growth in the focus segment, gradual contraction of nonfocus area to free up capital and liquidity and support earnings generation, while we execute this transformation. The buildup of the consumer and SME book continued. They represent now 62% of our total performing loan book at the end of the year in 2019, setting us well on track to achieve the targeted 80% plus in the midterm. Gross yields have contracted mildly in consumer, driven by the increased focus on payroll customers and conversion of long tenors in Serbia to shorter ones. Given the interest rate environment and regulatory pressure on consumer lending, we see the defense of the consumer margins as very effective so far. Particularly, keep in mind that in the last 6 months, the new volumes, which are booked at the gross yields above that of the back book, so the new book in the last 6 months shows yields above that -- above those of the back book. On the SME, we also indicated it in previous call, the flat gross yield in the context of ample liquidity in all markets must be read in correlation with the improved risk profile and increase -- a solid increase in commission income from this segment. On Page 7, a closer look at the focus lending segments shows strong continuous growth on the consumer book to over EUR 1.3 billion, which is a 13% year-on-year growth. This was supported by an increase of 10% of new loan originations in 2019. Focus on lending limited the capacity allocated to some of the NCI programs, which increased in consumer by only 3% on the back of very successful previous initiatives. Those initiatives were specifically in the areas of bancassurance and dynamic currency conversion. Several initiatives have already started in the quarter 4 of last year to accelerate NCI in consumer, focusing explicitly on repricing, accounts packages redesigned and improved capabilities on the cards product. On the SME front, the growth of the book to over EUR 1 billion represents a year-on-year progression of 14%, driven by 12% acceleration in new volumes. New customer acquisition and connecting lending to turnover supported a very healthy growth in NCI in the SME segment by 18.4% year-on-year. Let's have a quick look at the consumer lending market. This is something we regularly cover in our calls. In such calls, I mentioned that the consumer lending market share progression with an indication of 8% to 10% target in all our markets. This target 8% to 10% market share in consumer lending is very important for us in 3 ways: First, it confirms that we have ample space to grow, and we can do it with our model. If you look at Slovenia and Montenegro, we achieved the kind of levels that we're targeting; second, we can achieve growth without becoming aggressive either in risk parameters or pricing; thirdly, it shows importance to progress in selected largest markets, Serbia and Croatia. In Serbia, we focused in 2019 on aligning the portfolio to the new regulation on maximum loan duration. Even in this context, we grew more than the market, and this will become visible in the market share over the coming quarters. There is very good growth in Croatia with prudent risk parameters even in the continued limited -- in the continued limitations related to the unavailability of the credit bureau. We gained here close to 0.5% in market share. A few words on digital, which is central to our strategy. I mentioned in the introduction, the effect of our super pragmatic approach to the digital transformation. We identify digital solutions which work in more advanced markets and bring them to our customers. We focus strictly on 3 KPIs; number of digital users, consumer loans origination, digital SME loans. We added just over 30,000 digital users in 2019, mostly through mobile banking, and we are now at 206,000 customers, digital users. Consumer loans originated digitally are at 9% from 3.8% last year, very solid growth and still a lot of way to progress -- a lot of way to progress. Add to that, the 27% originations happened through Bank@Work, so our total out-of-branch originations accounts for 36% of our production. This encouraged us to close 17 branches in 2019 compared to the initially targeted 8. Digital SME loans in Slovenia and Serbia contributes 13% of our acquisition. This is very solid. Croatia has been implemented in quarter 4, and the initial results are very convincing there as well. The digital SME lending platform also helped us to reduce our average ticket size, as I was mentioning, from EUR 217,000 in 2018 to EUR 190,000 in '19. This is central to our strategy to defend the margin. Further pragmatic developments in the area of digitizing, automating, data utilization for the focus areas continues. We will inform you of such initiatives, both related to bringing new solutions to our market or rolling out everywhere services which we currently have only in selected markets, visual identification, mLoan, digital SME loans. With this, I would like to hand over to Johannes, who will take us through the financial and risk metrics for the year 2019.

Johannes Proksch

executive
#2

Thank you, Razvan. Before we come to that, please let me once more highlight that we adjust our numbers in order to provide you with a clear view of the underlying historic development. This was particularly relevant for development from 2018 to 2019 and will become less important going forward. We have, therefore, provided you with extra 2 pages on these adjustments in the appendix as well as a detailed breakdown in our audited year-end financials published this morning on our website. But here in brief, the most significant impact in 2018 was the Tier 2 waiver in the first quarter by our, at that time, sole shareholder. We adjusted our 2018 figures accordingly. More importantly, the major one-offs during 2020 (sic) [ 2019 ] were in other results of EUR 3.9 million in restructuring costs for the successfully implemented cost optimization program, built in the second and fourth quarter, and used so far in the amount of EUR 2.1 million. The IPO-related costs were ultimately EUR 2 million. The release of a gain of EUR 4.3 million related to the resolution of our largest nonperforming exposure, the write-offs related to the Swiss franc conversion law in Serbia of EUR 8.1 million, and the provision in relation to the Croatian Supreme Court ruling regarding Swiss franc loans of EUR 8.7 million, fully reflected already in our Q3 results. And now let me explain on Page 11 how our strategy is reflected in our 2019 numbers by highlighting the progress we made in the full year or fourth quarter of 2019 compared to the previous year's period. Like in the last year, during 2019, the higher rates on the focus business translated into a further increase of our interest income from this portfolio, and as a consequence of further reduced deposit yields, we increased our net interest margin by 20 basis points to 3%. Our net commission income, of which 90% are related to our focus business, further increased during '19 by 7.7%, predominantly driven in the consumer area by payments, meaning account packages, transaction cards as well as bancassurance, and with accelerated contribution from SME-related products, as mentioned by Razvan earlier, with cards income lower than expected. This positive development in net interest income and net commission income is also visible in the quarter comparison. Operating expenses have remained flat. Our announced cost optimization, meaning the reduction of FTE numbers by 180 and 8 branches in the second half of 2019 was overachieved, as we will highlight later, and has kept our expenses in line with 2018, therefore, helping us to contribute to cost improvements in 2020. All this has helped us to reach an adjusted post-tax profit of EUR 40.7 million or reported EUR 35.1 million. The main difference being the adjustments mentioned earlier, particularly the Swiss franc conversion law with EUR 8.1 million in Serbia and the Supreme Court ruling on Swiss franc clauses in Croatia with a provisioning of EUR 8.7 million. All of the above led us to an adjusted return on tangible equity at 14.1% CET1 of 5.6%. Now on Page 12 and 13, we provide our usual breakdown to show a granular picture of the development of our interest income and expenses composition and respective yield-related developments. On the interest income, this is on Page 12, I'd like to highlight the continued increase over the quarters predominantly related to our focus business reflecting now 73% of the total market-related interest income and clearly overcompensating the managed contraction in our nonfocus areas. The relatively stable development of our focus yield despite a negative market interest environment is proving again that we were able to defend our margins in a challenging environment via our proposition on convenience and speed. As mentioned by Razvan earlier, new business yields in consumer have actually increased by 30 basis points during 2019, which is a promising sign that we will achieve stabilization of the overall consumer book yield. SME remained relatively flat, supported by the continuous increase of disbursements from our automated digital lending process for small tickets, also driven by lower maturities and better-rated clients. For the ones of you interested in development of our other interest income, we have a page in our appendix highlighting the continuous decrease on our revenues from our plain vanilla bond portfolio of roughly EUR 1.1 billion, yielding 145 basis points in 2019, the decrease in unwinding income as we continue to resolve successfully our nonperforming exposures and the interest like income related to fees accrued over the lifetime of the loan. And now on Page 13, we illustrate that our disciplined repricing of deposits over the last years has also in 2019 contributed to decreased interest expenses on the back of reduced funding yields by roughly 12 basis points. Meaning, we pay today, on average, 49 basis points on our funding. On Page 14, on the net commission income, I'd like to highlight that earlier 2019 versus 2018 shows an increase of close to 7.7%, of which 90% are related to our focus business with an increasing share of SME-related net consumer income since our clients increasingly use us for transactions and digitally sold guarantees and for trade finance business while the consumer area had another strong fourth quarter predominantly driven by account packages and transactions. Let's move now to operating expenses on Page 15. As mentioned earlier, 2019 has shown, so far, a contribution of our operating expenses from 2018 of roughly EUR 47 million to EUR 48 million per quarter or just below EUR 190 million for the full year 2019, while shift in 2019 are reflected in the various cost categories. A part of the neutral shift between depreciation and administration expenses related to the adoption of IFRS 16, approximately EUR 7.1 million into depreciation, higher depreciation in IT are increasingly compensating by the other cost items, such as premises expenses and intellectual expenses except marketing which we keep relatively flat over time. The announced cost optimization initiative for the second half was better implemented than anticipated as we were able to reduce our FTEs by 229 and 17 branches versus an initial plan of 180 FTEs and 8 branches. In addition of that, we are proactively managing IT related costs, particularly related to our core systems and apply a higher scrutiny towards IT related intangible assets to manage future depreciation. Let's now move to risk on Page 16. We have already presented this page a number of times, and you can see, again, the significant progress in 2019 where we are now -- where we have now a nonperforming exposure of EUR 277 million or 3.9%. You can also see the continuous reduction during the 4 quarters in 2019. Broken down by segments, on Page 17, you see that NPS -- that NPEs in focus areas are well under control where the portfolios are growing with very healthy and stable coverage ratios. And in our nonfocus areas, we were able to release provisions related particularly to mortgages and large corporates, which helped us to even compensate the impact related to Serbian Swiss franc conversion law on mortgages with write-downs of EUR 8.1 million in the second quarter of 2019 reflected in the credit loss expense line. The consumer-related risk provisions of EUR 20.3 million during 2019 were better than expected, reflecting the portfolio ramp-up, which is based on a prudent underwriting and portfolio quality assessment process. The comparison to the full year 2018 provisions in consumer is limited, given that they were positively influenced by releases as a consequence of the sale of legacy portfolios with a gain. On Page 18, you see the current breakdown of our top 10 nonperforming exposures, of which 35% are related to large corporates. In '19, we were quite successful in halving the exposure to EUR 42.4 million mainly by restructuring, among others, our largest nonperforming exposure, a large Croatian retailer by a debt equity swap and a subsequent sell of the resulting equity piece in the market at a gain of EUR 4.3 million booked under other income and excluded from the adjusted result, as mentioned earlier. The top 10 continued to be healthy, provisioned with coverage levels above 61%, excluding collaterals and above 137%, including conservatively valued collaterals. And now a brief update on our capital position on Page 19. Not much has changed during 2019 with regards to our regulatory capital ratios and we continue to have a very healthy total capital ratio, which, in our case, is equal to the CET1 of 17.7% on a transitional basis or 17.1% IFRS 9 fully loaded, after considering the profit for the year 2019 and the proposed dividend payment. RWA were reduced during the last quarter, mainly by a shift of bonds from higher into lower risk weights. Now let's move to the outlook, midterm targets and dividend guidance chapter on Page 21 and Page 22. Let's start with the outlook for the year 2020. We expect a benign macroeconomic environment in the coming years, with expected macroeconomic growth to remain comparably steady at approximately 2.8% for 2020. We will continuously progress in shifting from the nonfocus to focus segments and will increase the share of focus by another 5 percentage points. We will continue to defend our margins and grow our net banking income. Net fee and commission income growth is expected to be comparable to 2019, accelerating towards the end of the year 2020 following the full implementation of the new cards platform. Operating expenses for 2020 are expected to continue the developments in 2019, while cost reductions resulting from the optimization carried out in 2019 are widely eliminated by increases in IT-related depreciation. Cost of risk is expected to increase along a growing focus loan book and significantly less releases from the nonfocus areas. And on the question on the potential impact related to the coronavirus, we can only respond that such impact remains unclear and will largely depend on future developments. Now to the guidance on dividends. We remain committed to fulfill our original guidance as presented to you, the investors and research analysts during the IPO process to distribute another EUR 40 million for the year 2020 and an annual dividend payout of 60% of net profit in the following years. In relation to the annual SREP process, where the next draft is expected in autumn this year, we expected that the annual SREP decisions on both Pillar 2 requirement and Pillar 2 guidance will reflect the continuous progress in financial and risk parameters as reached in 2019, and the specifics of countries where Addiko is present. The distribution of any excess capital will follow this annual SREP decision and will be included in the dividend proposal to the AGM for the respective financial year. We will continue to pursue capital optimization by issuing eligible capital instruments, alternative Tier 1 or Tier 2, reflecting the development of future capital requirements and will time these activities in line with the respective SREP decisions. And now I'll review -- speak to our reviewed midterm targets on Page 22. Our focus on consumer and SME lending and payment services and the rigorous commitment to the digital transformation has allowed us to further progress during 2019 towards our midterm targets originally presented to investors in the context of our IPO last summer. We reviewed our midterm targets in the context of our budget and planning process during the last month and reflected, on 1 hand, the interest rate outlook, which was significant -- which has significantly changed since we set our original midterm targets beginning of 2019, meaning that we do not expect interest levels to improve from current levels, and that further administrative restrictions curbing consumer lending will result in lower revenues, which will be compensated over time. And on the other hand, further cost optimizations to be introduced to compensate for the loss in revenues. This has resulted in our reviewed midterm targets to be achieved 1 year later than originally planned, which compared to original targets as follows. The continuous shift of the loan book from the nonfocus to the focus areas will reach more than -- greater than 85% in focus area. Previously, this was 80%. The net interest margin reflecting now the constant low Euribor interest rate environment will be 3.8%, previously circa 4%. Net fee and commission income growth will be roughly 10%, previously low teens CAGR. The cost/income ratio will reach below 50%. Previously, it was below 45%, but there was 5% reflected due to the Euribor increase in the previous target. Cost of risk, based on net loans, will be minus 1.5%. Previously, this was minus 1.6%. The return on tangible equity at 14.1% CET1 ratio is around 9.5%. Previously, it was above 12%, but the above 12% also included 2% related to the Euribor increase. Total capital ratio, including the management buffer at the midterm, is expected to be 16.1% or above 16.1%. So this has -- is unchanged. And the loan-to-deposit ratio at around 100% has also not been changed. And now back to you Razvan.

Razvan Munteanu

executive
#3

Before turning to Q&A, 4 messages I want to reiterate on this call. First, we delivered a strong 2019, absorbing many of the one-offs related to the adverse events confronting us, enabling us to propose a dividend distribution of EUR 2.05 per share, in line with the IPO promise. Our transformation -- second, our transformation is firmly on track with moderate adjustments to the midterm target mostly in terms of time line. 3, digital transformation, which is key to our strategy, is progressing well on the back of our pragmatic approach supporting expansion of sales and cost efficiency. And 4, our dialogue with the regulator is providing us with a clear basis to an action plan which should lead to improved capital requirements, and by consequence, improved dividend distribution capability. With this, I ask the operator to please open the floor for question and answers.

Operator

operator
#4

The first question is from Anna Marshall of Goldman Sachs.

Anna Marshall

analyst
#5

Two questions, please. Firstly, regarding capital requirements. So could you please provide more color on the action plan that you've developed following the discussions with the regulator? And also kind of looking into horizon, further down the road, what are your thoughts regarding potential impact of CRD V implementation, specifically in terms of the ability to cover Pillar 2 R with other forms of capital rather than CET1 and as well as treatment of intangible deductions related to software? So that was the first question. And the second question, just to confirm regarding your 2020 outlook, especially for cost of risk. Are there any assumptions at all in terms of macro impact or anything related to the coronavirus situation?

Razvan Munteanu

executive
#6

So I ask Markus Krause, who is with us, our CRO, to address the capital response, and then I'll respond on the coronavirus.

Markus Krause

executive
#7

Related to the action plan you were asking for, the SREP process starts, the new one for relevant and for the requirement change to be effective then from 2021 on, will start in April roughly this year. And we will get the first draft, as Johannes shared, in autumn this year, what is the reference base for the action plan, what the bank has done during 2019, so the snapshot what they use at the end of the year 2019. So we are very confident about our progress, what we made during the year. That is exactly also the action plan where we are in the process of the new SREP, we'll share with them all these achievements we did and the progress we did in certain items which have been identified as improvement needs, and that keeps us quite confident that we can deliver this year the progress they need to have to reflect that in the Pillar 2 requirement. And the Pillar 2 guidance is very similar. Also here, the discussion has been started in exchanging more details about how the regulators approach that topic. We are sharing also the way in terms of more granular data, which we have available and they might not have, to reflect also the financial progress we made in the last years properly in the calculation of the Pillar 2 guidance. And all these results will then be communicated and reflected latest in autumn 2020 by the regulators in the draft. Is that answering your question, Anna?

Anna Marshall

analyst
#8

Yes, partially. The second part of the question regarding CRD V?

Markus Krause

executive
#9

The CRD V question was related to the cash restructure?

Anna Marshall

analyst
#10

Yes. The question, basically, with the introduction of CRD V, would you expect the possibility to fill part of Pillar 2 R with other capital level rather than CET1, basically, Tier 2 or AT 1?

Johannes Proksch

executive
#11

Okay, I understand. So in -- this will actually be defined in the draft letter. So normally, the regulator defines, what kind of quality you need to hold against the various buckets. So we don't see at the moment that this could change.

Anna Marshall

analyst
#12

Okay. And regarding the treatment of deduction of software intangible, would you expect any changes there?

Johannes Proksch

executive
#13

No. But I believe this was clear from the beginning that our regulator does not allow basically this intangibles goodwill and some, which we actually don't have to be accounted for. So this is not something which is -- and at least, I'm not aware that this is actually possible with our regulator. Therefore, we have never considered that one. So we have a more conservative approach to this one.

Razvan Munteanu

executive
#14

On the potential impact of the coronavirus, in our modeling and midterm targets that we provided to you, we do not include a specific impact associated with that. We, however -- I would make 3 mentions here. First of all, we're still in a privileged situation where the effect of the coronavirus in our market is very, very limited. And while we hope it to stay that way, we're preparing for potential effects either directly in our markets or affecting the supply chain. First of all, like, I guess, most of the organizations, we have an internal crisis team set up, providing communication and business continuity preparation. Secondly, we also address the potential business impact. We're assessing various industries, and we're preparing to address potential effects of disrupted supply chain that could affect the economies in our region through temporary suspension of activities. We're addressing this both by preparing solution for existing borrowers, providing them relief and preparing to engage with the regulators in a dialogue on this topic as well as in terms of preparing recovery product for those customers, which in such a scenario will be confronted at some point with a temporary cash flow shortage.

Operator

operator
#15

The next question is from Simon Nellis of Citibank.

Simon Nellis

analyst
#16

Just on the capital front, again, maybe I didn't quite understand the answer on the capital action plan. But is your hope that the regulator will lower the P2R or P2G as part of this plan?

Razvan Munteanu

executive
#17

Yes.

Simon Nellis

analyst
#18

That's the idea. Okay. And I guess the 60% payout ratio that you're guiding for future years, I guess that's predicated on you getting the regulator lowering the P2G to a point where you won't be in breach of that metric, right? Or...

Johannes Proksch

executive
#19

I think here we -- yes, so basically, this is Johannes here. We obviously tried to basically convey the message in a way -- we also had a dialogue with the regulator around these topics without pre-concluding what the outcome will be, but what we basically say is that the progress in our financial and risk numbers will be reflected in the SREP decisions in the future. And therefore, when we give a midterm guidance of 16.1%, and this is unchanged from the one during the IPO, we basically believe that the progress in our financial numbers, which has now been shown over 3 years since we break through and 3 years of profits will be reflected, including the year 2019, as the regulator always looks on the past year when he does his assessment. So the assessment which will be completed in autumn this year will include the '19 figures. And this progress should lead to a reduction, but we can obviously not pre-conclude how much and when this will happen precisely. This is ultimately what the regulator will come up with.

Simon Nellis

analyst
#20

Right. Okay. I see that you have a new shareholder, the DDM Group. Have you had any interaction with them? And do you know what their plans are for being a shareholder longer term?

Razvan Munteanu

executive
#21

We did meet DDM in one of our roadshows. And we had an interaction, which was based on exactly the same narrative and information that we provided to all our other investors and to the market. This happened back in November in the third quarter of '19. Since then, we didn't have any individual interaction with them.

Simon Nellis

analyst
#22

I mean do you see any synergy from having such a shareholder? I guess they're knowledgeable in working out problematic debts...

Razvan Munteanu

executive
#23

I cannot speculate on that, Simon. We didn't meet them yet. Our expectation is that they will reach out to us at some point in the near future, subject to their transaction with AI Lake being concluded.

Simon Nellis

analyst
#24

Understood. Could I also ask just about your -- I mean your long -- your medium-term outlook for risk cost is pretty clear, but can you help us kind of on the outlook for this year and for next year? I mean you expect less recoveries, but it sounds like the credit environment is still pretty benign. But what kind of risk cost in the near term would you expect, if you can give us any guide?

Markus Krause

executive
#25

Yes. This is Markus speaking. We have -- as you have seen, the nonperforming loan book has been reduced significantly down to EUR 277 million. One of the key reductions was in the large corporate portfolio where we were leveraging on also what you see in the presentation itself, significant in terms of P&L. So we cannot endlessly repeat that, so this comes to an end now. While on the mortgage, we still will leverage on releases because we are running down that portfolio gradually. So there is something coming out of that. On the consumer, you see what we have booked here, and Johannes mentioned that this was better actually than the plan. So take it as a direction and guidance. We, of course, use the latest developments also for forecasting the development in 2020. So something in that direction, ratio-wise, you cannot assume. And for the SME where we had very low costs, we also have a certain risk appetite, especially with our lending in smaller business where we go with smaller tickets, where we go more with automatic lending, we have to have that risk appetite, and that is also reflected in the cost of risk. So we expect an uptick here, which is -- so no releases anymore. There is some, let's say, amount, which is in the ramp-up of the portfolio over the years, reflecting the appetite related on a risk-return basis.

Simon Nellis

analyst
#26

Okay. If you don't mind, I'll just ask a few more questions. On the employee expense, I saw that the salaries of -- employee expense divided by average FTEs, it actually went down year-on-year, which is kind of surprising because I thought there was quite a lot of labor cost pressure.

Razvan Munteanu

executive
#27

Yes, I can explain that, Simon. Our -- this is Razvan. The restructuring program that Johannes referred to was executed not in the typical way where you see FTE cuts predominantly from the bottom of the employment chain, if I may say so. But we had a very balanced approach with a number of senior positions being taken out. In the context of our migration from a universal bank into a focus specialty, there are certain functions, activities that we can either combine or give up. And this allowed us to reduce the average cost per employee as well.

Simon Nellis

analyst
#28

Okay. I mean would you expect that trend to continue going forward? Or is that kind of a one-off?

Razvan Munteanu

executive
#29

I think we didn't make a calculation from the angle you're describing, but the effort will go in the same direction. So we'll continue to consolidate or eliminate functions that are related to activities we're no longer focusing on. So probably, to a certain extent, it will continue.

Simon Nellis

analyst
#30

Okay. And then just a question on intangibles. I saw that they came down in the balance sheet in the fourth quarter. What was driving that?

Johannes Proksch

executive
#31

Yes. I referred to this one. We basically take quite a scrutinized view on intangibles, particularly if they are related to system. So basically, we just review them, and there was 1 element in the other income line where we basically reduced the capitalization of these intangibles.

Operator

operator
#32

The next question is from Jovan Sikimic of Raiffeisen Bank.

Jovan Sikimic

analyst
#33

I have a question on dividend. Was this proposal somehow coordinated with the regulator during the course of this ongoing discussions on capital requirements?

Johannes Proksch

executive
#34

Obviously, the decision on the dividend is being taken by the Management Board and our year-end financials, which are audited, have been also approved by the supervisory board. We had an open and constructive communication with the regulator, and they are acknowledging basically our decision, but there's no requirement for basically a sign-off by the regulator on such a dividend. This a decision being made by the management.

Jovan Sikimic

analyst
#35

And also, given the fact that payout is higher than 100%, also, no need for any special approval from them?

Johannes Proksch

executive
#36

That's -- if you compare, obviously, here the group profit, post-tax profit of EUR 35.1 million with a dividend of EUR 40 million. The dividend is actually paid out of the parent company, which has a profit of EUR 40 million, so it's not eating into the capital, it's basically paying out the profit of the holding company. Their financials have also been published this morning. It's on Page 105.

Jovan Sikimic

analyst
#37

Okay. And on the capital in general, I mean is there any requirement from the regulator to close the gap if we include also Pillar 2 guidance throughout the year until the new SREP draft is out for 2021? I mean you had the so called Tier 2, but is there a kind of requirements from the regulator to close the gap?

Johannes Proksch

executive
#38

Usually, there's a transition period. We have so far not received the administrative decision. So what we have received is a draft and the decision, but not -- in Austria, it's called Bescheid. We would expect at some point in time to see the transition period. But as you can see also in the communication around the topic, the next SREP draft decision is expected in autumn. So this is, I think, to be considered in that context. And that's why we also had the dialogue with the regulator and have a continuous dialogue with the regulator to fulfill all the requirements and show them the progress, including the '19 figures so that they can come up with a decision in autumn on the new SREP. And we believe that, that will be then the relevant one for further action, meaning generating excess capital or closing gaps via a Tier 2 transaction or risk-weighted assets optimization.

Jovan Sikimic

analyst
#39

Okay. If we speak about risk-weighted assets, I mean there was this favorable treatment from Serbia sovereign bonds. I mean do you -- can you quantify what could be the impact on core Tier 1 ratio, roughly?

Johannes Proksch

executive
#40

I -- first of all, although this happened end of '19, it was only effective in 2020, so you don't see this in the financials. This will be -- in the first quarter financials, you will see this impact, but obviously, there are also offsetting impacts as the loan portfolio is growing. So we will basically update on the first quarter with regard to this effect. And then there were other implications in 2019, and I referred to this in the last quarter. Also, the weights on some bonds have changed. And therefore, we had a positive impact in the last quarter in terms of risk-weighted assets in '19.

Jovan Sikimic

analyst
#41

Okay. So just in terms of guidance, I mean, did I understand it correctly, so the initial guidance will be achieved 1 year later? Or...

Johannes Proksch

executive
#42

Correct. Well, the initial review -- so basically, we say 1 year later, and the numbers I have mentioned during the call. So there is adjustments in one or the other direction. But mainly, you can see this on Page 22, you basically can see the original midterm target level versus the review. But please consider one thing that during the IPO, when we have shown the original midterm target level, we also referred to the implication at that time of the Euribor, which was already at minus 10 basis points. So we already mentioned during that period that the return on tangible equity will be not above 12%, but around 10%. And so therefore, the review which we conducted over the last couple of weeks and months is basically a further reduction of 0.5% to that one. But it's now at 9.5%. Otherwise, you can read all these numbers there in the presentation and also in our financial statements.

Jovan Sikimic

analyst
#43

And the last one, if I may. I mean what -- which interest rate level would now you embed? Because there's -- apparently, there's another move, negative move in the market. So...

Johannes Proksch

executive
#44

There was one. I'm not aware of one over few last days, but there was one, I think, in autumn, and I currently see it at 41 basis points negative throughout the whole period.

Operator

operator
#45

Sir, there are no further questions over the telephone lines.

Edgar Flaggl

executive
#46

All right. Thank you, operator. We have a question on the webcast from [ Alo ] at SEB. #1, do you expect any response from the regulator on dividend proposal before the AGM? Do you expect the proposal to be approved in the current form or will it be adjusted lower? Question #2, can you comment on the recent changes in the shareholder structure?

Johannes Proksch

executive
#47

Okay. So I think one, we've already partially at least answered the first part. We don't expect any response from the regulator. This dividend is not new to them, this proposal. We decided on this one and the supervisory board decided on that one as well to be proposed to the AGM, so now it's only up to the AGM to decide for dividend, and they normally would accept it, that would be the normal course. And the second part is -- sorry -- no, this was the -- and the second, shareholder structure. On the -- so basically, I mean we obviously welcome the changes in the shareholder structure as we believe that it was clear that Advent is reducing their stake and the shareholder structure to stabilize, it's always a good thing to happen. You have seen the various announcements, including the one this morning that EBRD has now a direct stake in Addiko and that Advent has, therefore, further reduced or Al Lake their participation. So we are obviously welcoming the stabilization in our shareholder base and the reduction of the overhang of shares.

Razvan Munteanu

executive
#48

There is another question.

Edgar Flaggl

executive
#49

We have another question on the webcast from Thibault Nardin at Wellington. What sort of consumer growth -- consumer loan growth do you expect for 2020, given the new lending restrictions? And do you think there is a chance these could be rolled back?

Razvan Munteanu

executive
#50

This is Razvan, let me take this question. We see ourselves as specialists in the consumer lending capable to overcome the specific circumstances in the market, maybe taking us 1 to 2 quarters to adjust to the new setup. Based on our assessment currently, we see a continued growth similar to that of last year going forward. We are confronted with specific restrictive regulations on consumer lending or recent ones in Slovenia, Montenegro and Croatia and Serbia, in particular. In Serbia, we aligned our portfolio to the new regulations, and we expect now the good sales performance to be reflecting market share gains and growth in the coming quarters. We do not have visibility in Serbia with regards to potential rollback of the regulation. In Slovenia, where the effect of the regulation is probably the most significant, we're in a positive situation of already operating within our target market share of 8% to 10%. So we think that the effect on the overall growth from Slovenia was anyway weighted to this particular situation. So it does not significantly affect our plans going forward. We also hear -- we have seen informal signals that the regulation could be revisited by the regulators in the third or fourth quarter of this year. In Montenegro, the regulation was introduced with the explicit time plan of 2 years. So it has -- it expires after 2 years. It is also one of our smaller markets and a place where we achieved the level of market share that we target. Still, we see the portfolio growing there as well. And Croatia, where the regulations have not been adjusted, but there are recommendations from the regulators with regards to certain prudential measures, we see our growth continuing in the same pattern.

Edgar Flaggl

executive
#51

Good, we have another one from Thibault on the webcast. Any chance if you could try tapping the Tier 2 market? You're also mentioning AT1 in your presentation, so should we understand you could try to further optimize your capital structure?

Johannes Proksch

executive
#52

Yes, thank you for that question. Yes, we intend, obviously, to look at all these instruments. We are fully aware that the markets are very favorable. For us, it is still important to see what the -- and have the transparency of the next round of SREP decision in autumn, and we will then adjust volumes around that topic. And the instruments, obviously, both available to us, so we will then try to optimize our capital structure even further.

Edgar Flaggl

executive
#53

All right. We have 1 more question on the webcast from Mladen Dodig at Erste. First, dividend guidance, EUR 40 million, plus EUR 40 million. Is it possible for this year to pay out the EUR 40 million since the DPR is seen at 60%? Two, considering the time line for administrative decision from the regulator, do you plan or need Tier 2 issuance already in 2020?

Johannes Proksch

executive
#54

So thanks for these questions. I think the first is just a clarification for the year 2019, and we continue to confirm the initial guidance of another EUR 40 million for the year 2020, basically then obviously being paid out in the subsequent year, and 60% thereafter. The second part of the question is with regards to the timing. I think I mentioned it before, we will adjust the size and obviously, then also the time once we know what the outcome is, the most likely outcome or maybe already the draft SREP letter -- on the basis of the draft SREP letter, we will then basically decide on the size. So we aim for the end of the year to basically react to this one. Now we don't want to predict or pre-conclude what the outcome could be. We expect a reduction. And from that, we will then decide the size of which we would like to issue. We also, as I mentioned before, don't know the timing of -- to achieve this. For the moment, we understand that normally, timing is 12 to 18 months but could also be shorter at that point in time.

Edgar Flaggl

executive
#55

All right. Operator, back to you. We have no more questions on the webcast.

Operator

operator
#56

Okay. Then we have a follow-up on the telephone lines. It's from Simon Nellis again.

Simon Nellis

analyst
#57

Just a few more questions. Just to be crystal clear, on Page 21, your guidance for fees and OpEx for this year, you're basically saying that the growth rate will be similar to last year. I guess you mean on the adjusted basis, right? So largely flat -- flat costs on an adjusted basis and around 8% fee growth again?

Razvan Munteanu

executive
#58

Yes. Yes, that's the right conclusion. I would also add that as we move forward, we expect that our reported and adjusted numbers will become very similar.

Simon Nellis

analyst
#59

All right. Okay. And then just on funding cost. I mean it's been coming down quite nicely for a while. How much further do you think it can come down?

Johannes Proksch

executive
#60

Not much more.

Razvan Munteanu

executive
#61

49 basis points.

Johannes Proksch

executive
#62

So we have been -- it was always a positive surprise. But obviously, the past will -- the past year will not be reflected in 2020, the reduction. So it's difficult to estimate because there's still longer-term maturities coming to the end and we will continue to optimize, but don't expect much more coming out of the reduced interest or funding costs.

Razvan Munteanu

executive
#63

But also, I think it is important to make it clear that we're not counting on our results on further material reductions of our funding costs.

Johannes Proksch

executive
#64

Yes.

Simon Nellis

analyst
#65

Right. And then just last on the Croatia, and I think there's a Supreme Court ruling due at some point on Swiss franc mortgages. What's your potential liability if they rule that the clients that have already converted to euro can also ask for some kind of compensation or annulments?

Johannes Proksch

executive
#66

We didn't do this kind of calculation. We understand that the already converted ones are excluded from the Supreme Court decision. We hear that there are noises around this topic. We haven't done the calculation, and we don't know how this is exactly -- the timing and how this is -- what the results of that would be. But it's an uncertainty, unfortunately, which hopefully can be clarified very soon.

Simon Nellis

analyst
#67

Do you have any provisions created against some kind of ruling? Or would that be a...

Johannes Proksch

executive
#68

No, to be clear on this, there's no -- that the already converted ones by law would be, again, basically touched by a Supreme Court decision, this is not part of our expectation. And this is also a wide speculation because you don't even know in what should that be then converted and what kind of interest rate that should be converted. So we believe that we have very prudently assessed the Supreme Court decision from September last year and provisioned EUR 8.7 million against that one. But that did not include a conversion of already converted cases from the 2015 law. And it's almost impossible to provide or to make a provision on something where -- which is highly speculative or where there's no ruling on that basis.

Operator

operator
#69

And we have another follow-up from Jovan Sikimic of Raiffeisen Bank.

Jovan Sikimic

analyst
#70

Yes. Once more, then we are done. Also, Croatia, I mean you mentioned in the report that the number of court cases against the bank increased 2019. Could you be more specific maybe on that front, just to have a feeling about legal risks in this country?

Johannes Proksch

executive
#71

Yes. So basically, I think there are 2 areas where customers are basically suing us. One is the so-called unilateral interest rate. This was -- basically, these were the cases where Euribor reductions were not passed over to the customers. On that one, in 2019, the statute of limitation expired and therefore, all the cases which came through are basically closed, so it's not any longer possible that new ones would come through. And we have provisioned for that in the first half appropriate amount, and we do not see there any further risk. And then there are obviously new cases on the Swiss franc -- based on the Swiss franc Supreme Court decision. So far, far less than we would have expected, but also not enough to conclude now what that would really mean. We are, at the moment, absolutely within all the expectations which we have used for establishing the provision with one exception that we expected far more cases to come through quicker.

Operator

operator
#72

As there are no further questions, I hand back to the speakers for the conclusion.

Razvan Munteanu

executive
#73

Ladies and gentlemen, with this, we conclude our call concerning the earnings for 2019. And we thank you for your attendance. Once again, our key messages were a strong 2019, very, very good results. We're distributing EUR 2.05 -- proposing distribution of EUR 2.05 per share to the AGM. Digital transformation going on the right track, and our dialogue with the regulators gives us the basis for an action plan that we expect will lead to a better reflection of our risk profile into our capital ratios. With that, I thank you very much for the participation, and wish you an excellent day going forward. Goodbye.

Johannes Proksch

executive
#74

Bye.

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