Adicet Bio, Inc. (ACET) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

January 4, 2024

NASDAQ US special 58 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Chen Schor

executive
#1

Good morning and thank you all for joining us today. I'm Chen Schor, President and CEO of Adicet Bio. By now you've seen the press release we issued this morning announcing important updates for our lead asset, ADI-001. We're excited to share a corporate update today that we believe has the potential to unlock significant value for both patients and shareholders. Let's get right to it. As a reminder, we'll be making forward-looking statements today as detailed on the slide, including express or implied statements regarding ADI-001, our future plans and strategy and other statements that are not historical fact. Please also refer to the forward-looking statements from today's press release as well as the Risk Factors section in our most recent 10-K and subsequent SEC filings for more detail. This call is being recorded. On the call with me today are Dr. Francesco Galimi, Chief Medical Officer; Dr. Blake Aftab, Chief Scientific Officer; and Nick Harvey, Chief Financial Officer. We're excited to kick off 2024 with the goal of unlocking the promise of our strong and diversified pipeline of off-the-shelf engineered gamma delta CAR-T programs in cancer and now also in autoimmune diseases. As you saw in the press release we issued this morning, we announced important updates on our lead assets ADI-001. Currently, ADI-001 is being evaluated in an ongoing Phase I study for the potential treatment of relapsed or refractory B-cell non-Hodgkin lymphoma or NHL. Based on ADI-001, clinical data to date and its therapeutic potential in B-cell mediated diseases, we have decided to broaden its development to autoimmune diseases. To that end, the U.S. FDA recently cleared the IND application for ADI-001 in lupus nephritis, and we plan to initiate this clinical study in the upcoming second quarter. In addition to initiating development in lupus nephritis, we plan to expand the program in the near term to additional autoimmune indications. In today's update, we also announced our decision to focus on enrolling MCL patients to the ongoing Phase I study in NHL. As noted in our previous data update in June 2023, the MCL patient population saw the greatest clinical benefit to date following treatment with ADI-001. We believe this step will enable us to build on the favorable product profile observed in this patient population including the high complete response or CR rate, the favorable durability and safety profile, no significant risk of CRS and ICANS, lower risk of T-cell malignancies compared to autologous CAR-T and the potential to dose off the shelf in community setting, which should enable broader access to patients. These properties provide ADI-001 with significant differentiation and potential for best-in-class therapy for MCL patients. Additionally, we've been very diligent with our allocation of resources to streamline our programs and operations to deliver meaningful benefits to patients and shareholders. With that, we have updated our cash runway into the second half of '25, which provides Adicet optionality and multiple opportunities for significant milestones as we will outline in today's presentation. I'll now turn to discuss why we're excited about the potential of ADI-001 in autoimmune diseases. Let's go to the next slide. Considerable evidence from academic studies have shown profound and durable responses to autologous CAR-T therapies in patients suffering from severe refractory autoimmune diseases including systemic lupus erythematosus or SLE, systemic sclerosis and idiopathic inflammatory myopathy, 3 diseases. Clinical data from these academic studies demonstrated that depletion of B-cells causes a reset of the immune system that is disease modifying and allows patients to remain treatment-free across several autoimmune diseases. I would like to highlight that the B-cell depletion data from our ADI-001 in lymphoma on the left side of the slide in light blue mirrors the B-cell depletion of autologous CD19 CAR-T in lupus patients, we experienced robust efficacy from academic studies by et al. presented on the right side of the slide in the darker blue graph. This B-cell depletion profile of ADI-001 is also consistent with the profile presented by et al. in the American College of Rheumatology conference less than 2 months ago in November in 15 patients with lupus, systemic cirrhosis and idiopathic inflammatory myopathy, we experienced robust efficacy. These data are also consistent with ADI-001 being the first and only allogeneic cell therapy with Cmax and exposure by AUC or area under the curve that meets or exceeds data reported by approved autologous CD19 CAR-T as recently presented by Adicet at ASH last month. B-cell depletion via CD20 targeting is also supported by the long clinical experience with the anti-CD20 antibody rituximab. And by the recent data with obinutuzumab, an anti-CD20 with enhanced pathotoxicity, which demonstrated compelling efficacy on top of standard of care in lupus nephritis in a Phase II clinical study. Let's go to the next slide. This slide summarizes the key reasons we believe ADI-001 has significant potential in autoimmune diseases. First, as I outlined, B-cell depletion from ADI-001 trial in patients, mirror B-cell depletion by autologous CD19 CAR-T in lupus, systemic sclerosis and idiopathic inflammatory myopathy. Second is the homing to tissues. The inability to deplete tissue resident B-cells in secondary lymphoid organs and other tissues has been reported as a contributing reason for the failure of targeted antibodies in lupus. A critical advantage of gamma delta 1 T-cells is their traffic to solid tissues. This property may be ideally suited to deplete B-cell mass located in peripheral tissues, including secondary lymphoid organs and kidneys, which may better enable an effective reset of the immune system. A highly desirable outcome for the treatment of autoimmune diseases. Third is safety. ADI-001 has shown to be well tolerated with no significant CRS, ICANS and lower risk of T-cell malignancies compared to autologous CAR-Ts. This profile in ADI-001, off-the-shelf availability makes it suitable for the treatment of autoimmune diseases and provides the potential to dose patients in the community setting. I'll now hand it over to Francesco to expand on the claim clinical design of the study and provide additional detail. Francesco.

Francesco Galimi

executive
#2

Thank you, Chen, and thanks, everyone, for joining us this morning. As Chen covered previously, we are pleased to be expanding the development of our lead pipeline assets, ADI-001, into autoimmune diseases. Let me start by illustrating on Slide 8, the dose-finding Phase I trial design that we will initiate soon in lupus nephritis as a first indication. We will perform a 3 plus 3 dose escalation starting at 100 million CAR positive cells, flat dose, which we now provides compelling efficacy in our non-Hodgkin lymphoma trial. Subject to safety findings, higher doses will be explored up to 1 billion CAR positive cells. Before ADI-001 infusion, each patient will be conditioned with cyclophosphamide and fludarabine lymphodepletion. The dose limiting toxicity reporting window is set to 42 days, 6 weeks for this study. Safety events during this period will be driving those escalation decisions. The first efficacy assessment is scheduled on day 28 after infusion and then on months 3, 6, 9, 12, 18 and 24 thereafter. Once the maximum tolerated dose or maximum administered dose is determined, a dose expansion cohort will be opened to further characterize the safety and efficacy of ADI-001 in lupus nephritis patients. The next slide illustrates the endpoints of the study. Primary endpoints will be focused on safety, given this is a Phase I study. Preliminary efficacy will be measured starting on month 1 after infusion and will be centered on recovery of kidney function as a secondary endpoint. Additionally, cellular kinetics and a panel or relevant pharmacodynamic measures will also be monitored over time such as antinuclear antibodies, anti-double-stranded DNA antibodies and complement levels. Systemic lupus responses will also be measured as exploratory endpoints with a consolidated scoring system used in the clinic called SLEDAI-2K, which accounts for a broad panel of clinical assessments, including neurological, psychiatric, dermatological, nephrological and hematological parameter. In summary, with B-cell depletion that has been observed to mirror autologous CD19 CAR-Ts in autoimmune diseases, exposure that has been observed to match or exceed autologous CAR-Ts, trafficking to peripheral tissues, favorable safety profile and off-the-shelf availability, we strongly believe in the potential of our first IND lupus nephritis and we plan to expand into additional autoimmune diseases in the near future. Before I turn it over to Chen, I'd like to provide an update on the progress of our non-Hodgkin lymphoma program on the next slide. As we announced this morning, we're focusing our current enrollment efforts on mantle cell lymphoma, where we believe we can deliver a highly differentiated potentially best-in-class therapy. While the sample size is still small, we're optimistic about its potential given the favorable safety profile observed in our May data cut with no significant risk of CRS, ICANS or T-cell malignancy, the high complete response rate of 80% and the favorable durability in late-line patients with 60% of patients in complete response beyond 6 months. We are evaluating the option of advancing ADI-001 to a potentially pivotal study in mantle cell patients under an accelerated approval pathway. As previously announced, we expect to provide a clinical update in the second half of 2024 for ADI-001 in mantle cells. And we may also provide a clinical update of 001 in autoimmune diseases in the second half of the year. We are excited to expand our program toward immune indications and look forward to updating you on the progress both in our autoimmune and in mantle cell lymphoma. With that, I'll turn the call back to Chen. Chen?

Chen Schor

executive
#3

Thank you, Francesco. We've outlined our strategic and disciplined development plan for maximizing the ADI-001 opportunity across lines of therapy in MCL and in autoimmune diseases as presented on this slide. I'll now briefly discuss our second clinical candidate, ADI-270. Let's go to the next slide. ADI-270 is an investigational next-generation allogeneic CAR-T program targeting CD70 via CD27 ligand. This approach has shown superiority to single-chain FV CARs and provide antitumor activity in tumors with relatively low antigen density. Coupled with the innate and adaptive targeting mechanism of the gamma delta 1 T cells to address tumor heterogeneity, Cmax and exposure by AUC profile that meets or exceeds autologous CAR-T for gamma delta 1 CAR-T platform and the homing of gamma-delta T cell reported in renal cell carcinoma, ADI-270 is highly differentiated for the treatment of renal cell carcinoma or RCC. With ADI-270, we have incorporated third-generation cost stimulatory signaling, which when coupled to CD70 binding, is designed to enhance durable activity while potentially improving the graft resilience. We also included TGF-beta dominant negative receptor armoring to ADI-270 to address suppressive tumor microenvironment factors and enhance serial killing capacity. We believe these properties make ADI-270 differentiated for RCC and other CD70 expressing tumors. We look forward to filing IND in the second quarter and initiating clinical development with RCC as the initial indication as well as progressing our next program targeting prostate cancer. Let's review our near-term milestones on the next slide. In summary, we're excited with the prospects for 2024 with significant milestones ahead and runway into the second half of '25. Let me walk you through the potential near-term milestones. With regards to ADI-001, in NHL, we expect to provide a clinical update in the second half of '24 with the latest data set from our MCL clinical study, including additional patients, updated response and durability data. We plan to potentially initiate the pivotal study in third-line MCL, which represent a significant unmet medical need. And we're also evaluating the possibility of expanding ADR-001 to earlier lines of therapy in MCL. For the development of ADI-001 in autoimmune diseases, currently, we're completing the start-up activities for the clinical study in lupus nephritis including getting new sites up and running. We expect to initiate the Phase I study in the second quarter of this year and pending rate of enrollment may provide a clinical update in the second half of the year. In the near term, we expect to expand ADI-001 clinical development into additional autoimmune diseases. And finally, in terms of our pipeline programs, we plan to leverage the meaningful differentiation of gamma delta 1 T cells. For ADI-270, we expect to file the IND in the second quarter for RCC and we look to see significant differentiation in this indication and other CD70 positive tumors. And lastly, we aim to file at least 1 IND every 12 to 18 months. With that, we thank you for joining us this morning as we look forward to a productive year ahead. I'll now turn it over to the operator to open up the call for Q&A. Operator, please?

Operator

operator
#4

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Kelly Shi from Jefferies.

Dingding Shi

analyst
#5

You mentioned the focus will be enrolled. Can you hear me?

Chen Schor

executive
#6

Yes, good to hear. Yes.

Dingding Shi

analyst
#7

Okay. So you mentioned the focus will be to enroll mantle cell lymphoma patients for ADI-001, just curious what is the status for the post CD19 CAR-T program in large B-cell lymphoma patients? Is it entirely paused or like just moving at a slower pace.

Chen Schor

executive
#8

Yes, absolutely. Thank you for the question. So when you look at the data in mantle cell lymphoma, if you look at our last update, you see 80% CR rate. You see 60% of the patients with a CR beyond 6 months and you see great safety profile. So the decision essentially it's a budget-driven decision. We decided to focus right now for at least in the near term on exclusively MCL patients and progressing this indication is potentially our first pivotal study. In the future, we may pursue other forms of NHL, such as follicular, maybe even LDCL but in the near term, the focus is on MCL patients. Yes.

Dingding Shi

analyst
#9

Okay. Great. And also, can you talk about the site activation for the trial in lupus nephritis with multi programs and also different mechanism of action for the program to initiate the trial in the first half of this year. Do you expect a slow enrollment pace because of the competition?

Chen Schor

executive
#10

Enrollment to lupus generally is not as quick as one would wish for, and there is competition. What I can share with you is that in our discussions so far with the different KOLs, once they saw the B-cell depletion data with 001 and comparing to what we've seen with the shelf all in multiple autoimmune diseases and the fact that it's off the shelf and essentially a very nice safety profile. So we have seen significant interest in the study. So hopefully, we'll see decent enrollment. And I want to emphasize Kelly, we will be going to additional indications in the near term when we say something we usually [indiscernible] so you'll see more indications as well.

Operator

operator
#11

Our next question comes from Michael Schmidt from Guggenheim.

Michael Schmidt

analyst
#12

Yes, interesting move into lupus, obviously, Chen, really, really, really interesting. I noticed you're focusing on lupus nephritis. I know there's a lot going on in SLE. Can you talk about your decision to move into that category, specifically as opposed to SLE more broadly?

Chen Schor

executive
#13

Francesco, do you want to take this question. Obviously, we look into SLE and lupus nephritis. I don't think there's a significant difference in terms of the ability to show difference -- to show efficacy in SLE versus lupus nephritis but Francesco, do you want to add...

Francesco Galimi

executive
#14

Absolutely. Can you hear me, okay?

Chen Schor

executive
#15

Yes.

Francesco Galimi

executive
#16

Okay. So Michael, that's a very good question. So lupus nephritis, as you know, is just a kidney manifestation that frequently affects patients with lupus. The reason why we are starting from that particular approach in that particular indication is that it offers the opportunity of very clear and equivocal short-term endpoints to be measured because recovery of kidney function is something that is known. If the data are positive, of course, is known to be straightforward and unequivocal to measure. As you know, the endpoints in systemic lupus are more complex. They take longer to be established and to be measured. So the lupus nephritis, first of all, is clearly unmet need in the lupus population of patients and then offers the opportunity to have a relatively short-term readout and unequivocal measure of efficacy.

Michael Schmidt

analyst
#17

All right. That makes sense. And yes, interesting analysis on the B-cell depletion. What view on the need for self persistence perhaps in lupus versus the need for that in B-cell lymphomas.

Chen Schor

executive
#18

Francesco, do you want to take that?

Francesco Galimi

executive
#19

Yes, definitely. So that's another excellent question. If you believe and remember the data that were discussed in recent forms from the academic experience with anti-CD19 autologous CAR-Ts. There is a consensus that what really matters in that setting is not so much the persistence of the cells sticking around for as long as the disease needs to be kept under control but it's rather the resetting of the hematopoietic system. There is a consensus that what happens is that the CAR-T approach has the ability to provide a profound B-cell depletion, There essentially results in a resetting of the faulty B-cell clones. So that even though the cells -- the transplanted cells eventually disappear or go below pharmacologically active level, the immune system actually recovers with a healthy B-cell-mediated immunity as opposed to the faulty one, so to say, that was responsible for the disease. The field -- it has to be said that the field is still in its infancy, so we'll see how the data unfolds, but that's the current model. So in that sense, our ability for ADI-001 cells to stick around for a number of weeks as you might have seen in our oncology experience is plenty of persistence, so to say, to trigger the resetting that I was alluding to.

Chen Schor

executive
#20

Yes, Michael, let me add 2 points to you. Let me add 2 points. One, when you look at the Cmax and they see an event the day 28 levels of ADI-001, that meet or exceed the autologous CD19. So that's one. Second, I think if you look at the [indiscernible] presentation from ACR, there is a nice presentation where they presented data from 15 patients with SLE, systemic sclerosis and IMM so 3 autoimmune diseases. What you learn are 2 things that I think actually address your question. One is that the T CAR-T extension is around day 9 and actually [indiscernible] says that the long-term levels are very low and not detectable. So you can see that the B-cell starts to return on average around about 100 days. So it seems like in autoimmune, you want to reset the B-cell compartment and then it starts to recover. When you look at our B-cell depletion profile, you can see that, that's what you would expect from us as well.

Michael Schmidt

analyst
#21

Okay. Super interesting. And then maybe last question just on the MCL sort of news on the Phase I study. When we think about this update coming later this year in the second half, will you include meaningfully new patients in the Phase I with MCL? Or will it be mostly more follow-up on the existing cohort.

Chen Schor

executive
#22

We are right now focusing on MCL enrollment and there is significant interest in the study in MCL. The data in MCL again, as of the last data update look great. And when you think about the current alternatives for MCL, we have some significant advantages. So definitely, additional patients, more durability for the current patients and durability data for new patients.

Operator

operator
#23

Our next question comes from Asthika Goonewardene from Truist. [Operator Instructions]. Perhaps we'll go to the next person and we'll return to you Asthika. Let's take a question from John Newman from Canaccord.

John Newman

analyst
#24

Just had 2 quick questions here. First 1 is regarding the lupus study, wondering if you'll be allowing patients previously treated with Rituxan? And if so, will you be utilizing a washout period? And the second question is, should we expect you to use the enhanced lymphodepletion in the lupus study that you've used in the NHL study.

Chen Schor

executive
#25

Francesco why don't you go ahead.

Francesco Galimi

executive
#26

Sure. Yes. To the first question, the answer is yes, we will allow patients with prior exposure to rituximab. And yes, we do have washout periods for rituximab and for every other prior therapy that we might have in our patients. The study will be in patients who have been exposed to a number of prior therapies. Regarding the second question, we have not disclosed and we are not disclosing right now the exact regimen for the lymphodepletion. The field is still in it's infancy, so to say. So we want to preserve that the type of information. What I can tell you is that it will be lower than the enhanced lymphodepletion regimen that you are familiar within our non-Hodgkin lymphoma study.

Operator

operator
#27

And we'll return to Asthika Goonewardene from Truist.

Asthika Goonewardene

analyst
#28

Guys, can you hear me okay now?

Chen Schor

executive
#29

Yes, Asthika.

Asthika Goonewardene

analyst
#30

Sorry about that. Okay. So just to John just asked part of the question I want to ask earlier, but let me just build on that. If you're going to reduce the amount of lymphodepletion that you're giving, will you still expect to see the same level of expansion of ADI-001 in the patient with lupus nephritis?

Francesco Galimi

executive
#31

I would expect the same essential profile to happen. So we are not planning to go to a non-lymphodepleted type of setting, obviously. So lymphodepletion has been designed in order to allow 001 cells to expand as efficiently as in our prior experience.

Chen Schor

executive
#32

Asthika, I just want to add on this. We are using the lymphodepletion that is clinically validated, it's minor differences from the enhanced lymphodepletion. The only reason that we're not sharing it is just for competitive reasons. If you look at other peer companies, they have not shared the specific lymphodepletion regimen. We worked with FDA to agree on this. So that's not a concern for us at all minor differences from enhanced lymphodepletion but just for competitive reasons, we're not sharing it.

Asthika Goonewardene

analyst
#33

Got it. Okay. That's clear, guys. And I apologize, I got a little bit of a harder question here. I guess the rationale for going to MCL. Obviously, it's an unmet medical need. There's -- the data that you have presented in that setting looks really good, is promising. The need for therapy like that. But what specifically was it about the large B-cell lymphoma cohort that you were pursuing that made you wanted to scale that back and park that. Was it the competition, the pace that happens right now? Is it the need to conserve capital and focus on these 2 other programs. Maybe just walk us through what got you to this point, guys?

Chen Schor

executive
#34

Absolutely. Yes. Thank you for asking, and it's not a hard question at all. So let me tell you why it was not, first of all. It was not additional clinical data from this study. Let me -- what it was. It was purely a budget-driven decision and focus for the company and for the clinical team. When you look at our -- the competition that you see at least would have be specific durability hasn't been something to write home about, if you look at the recent data in ASH. In LPCL, we think that consolidation dosing is probably preferred with 2 doses of ADI-001 into lymphodepletions and when we look at the potential in autoimmune diseases, we see such a vast potential in multiple autoimmune diseases that we can go after and we just decided at this point to focus on autoimmune and MCL. So that's really what drove our decision. Hopefully, that is helpful to you.

Operator

operator
#35

Our next question comes from Reni Benjamin from JMP.

Reni Benjamin

analyst
#36

Hear me okay?

Chen Schor

executive
#37

Perfect.

Reni Benjamin

analyst
#38

Maybe just to start off, as I kind of compare the data that you guys showed on the third and fourth slide with ADI-001, the B-cell depletion that occurs looks nearly complete, but it seems like there might be some residual B-cells remaining. In the academic data, it looks like a complete depletion. And I guess I'm kind of curious how important is the complete depletion of B-cells in an indication like this? And are you thinking about anything that you might combine B-cells with at least initially to maybe push the level of B-cells down if that one's needed.

Chen Schor

executive
#39

Blake, do you want to take this question?

Blake Aftab

executive
#40

Yes, sure. I think when you look at the B-cell depletion levels for our existing NHL experience, it's quite complete. And actually last quite long and definitely beyond the 100-day median time for recovery that's shown in the autoimmune disease setting now. Of course, NHL isn't necessarily predictive of what we can see in autoimmune since the B-cells are may be healthier and have a faster recovery time. But as far as the completeness of B-cell depletion, our NHL experience is quite complete analytically.

Reni Benjamin

analyst
#41

Okay. And then I guess as I try to compare the 2 indications and the, call it, the translatability, is there outside of the academic experience, which I think is great and that data looks amazing. Is there anything else you guys mentioned trafficking, right, as the gamma delta T cell. Is there anything else from this profile that you think could actually make it better, do better in the academic setting?

Chen Schor

executive
#42

Sure. Absolutely. I can try to address that. So the first point is trafficking to tissue. I want to say gamma delta 1 T cells probably one of the [indiscernible] cell therapy that actually traffics to tissues and can deplete the B-cells where you want them to be depleted in the right compartment for autoimmune diseases. So that could be a significant advantage when you think about gamma delta 1 T cells compared to any other types of T cells. And for example, when you think about lupus nephritis getting into those T cell nest in the kidney are going to be very helpful. And we know that there is homing to kidney of gamma delta 1 T cell. So homing in autoimmune diseases, I think, is a significant advantage. The second one is safety. When you think about these patients, many of these patients are young and have failed a couple of therapies. CRS and ICANS hasn't been a big issue in these patients with the cell therapies. We don't expect them to be any issue with gamma delta 1 T cells. But the T cell malignancy risk is kind of disturbing when you're younger, for example, lupus patients. So having something that's allogeneic will provide you essentially no or very, very much lower risk of T cell malignancy should be advantageous for these patients. And I think the last one is off-the-shelf availability. You can just go to your physician. You don't need to travel to an academic center and potentially get it right off the shelf in the community setting, given the safety profile that we've seen to date. So when you bundle all these, there is the potential for better efficacy, better safety and availability in the community setting. So we think this could be quite significant in the market, assuming, obviously, we get approval.

Reni Benjamin

analyst
#43

Got it. And you addressed the final question I had slightly. I'm just hoping you might be able to expand on it. The T cell malignancy part, right? So we have the recent finding, the FDA is investigating. I'm just kind of curious how you kind of navigate that as you think about, I guess, the different outcomes from the FDA's investigation?

Chen Schor

executive
#44

If you have autologous cell therapy and you happen to provide a graft, it's not really a graft because it's autologous that does have the potential for malignancy, your immune system would have then rejected. So you could potentially in a very low percentage of the cases provide therapy that could potentially cause the malignancy for the patient. In the case of allogeneic cell therapy, our advantage is, one, that when you look at the Cmax and day-28 persistence and AUC, it's comparable to allogeneic. But after a few months, the body will reject the graft and that's why there is a significantly lower risk of T-cell malignancy with allogeneic cell therapy. So we think we will be an advantage. This is just potentially affect because of the type of therapy that you provide.

Operator

operator
#45

Our next question comes from Rob Driscoll from Wedbush.

Robert Driscoll

analyst
#46

I think you've kind of touched on this in a few answers. But just trying to, I guess, match the profile of ADI-001 with the patient population here in lupus nephritis. And I think there are different kind of severities of the disease. Maybe most, if not all, the patient will be eligible ultimately? And I guess, how that aligns to the patients you expect to enroll? And then second question, just are you going to wait for initial data here before moving into additional AI indications? And I guess what would be the gating items there?

Chen Schor

executive
#47

Yes. Francesco, why don't you start with the first one, and I'll go to the next one.

Francesco Galimi

executive
#48

Sorry, I was mute. Sorry, guys. I do that every time. I'm not sure I understood your first question. Could you -- would you be so kind to repeat it?

Reni Benjamin

analyst
#49

Yes. I guess just within the lupus nephritis itself, what proportion about patients would match treatment for ADI-001, would it be kind of all patients, refractory patients, all refractory patients and so on. Just trying to get a sense of the ultimate patient population here in the market.

Francesco Galimi

executive
#50

Sure, sure. I cannot predict exactly at the end of the game, what type of percentage of the overall population will be eligible. What I can tell you is that the study will start from patients who are relatively late line, so they will have to be exposed to prior therapies. And we have negotiated with the FDA and discussed with the FDA, so it's all ready to go. It is likely that patients with form of lupus who can be managed with a more traditional, shall we say, pharmacological measures will not get to the attention of the cell therapy approach, but we do know that there's a very significant proportion of patients who are really challenging to be managed in the clinic. And the challenge is compounded by the fact that these are relatively young patients. And so having a particularly effective therapy is highly relevant also for a number of reasons, including the age group. So it's too soon to say exactly what type of TPP so to say, will end up heavy, but it's unquestionable that there is a very significant unmet need in lupus nephritis, in particular, in lupus in general. Additionally, there are other diseases that will expand into very soon, who are also maybe less famous, so to say, but very, very acute unmet needs.

Chen Schor

executive
#51

And Rob, regarding your second question, we started talking to a couple of the KOLs. And once they saw the essentially the T CAR profile in terms of Cmax and AUC that's consistent with autologous. And once they saw the B-cell depletion profile from our data and the safety profile, there is interest in other autoimmune diseases. So I think the question -- the answer to your question is no, we will not be waiting. So you might see this in the near future going into other indications as well.

Operator

operator
#52

Our next question comes from Ed White from Wainwright.

Edward White

analyst
#53

Most of them have been asked, but I do have a couple left. Just on the MCL patient population, I'm curious that with the great data in the large cell population in post CAR-T will you enrich the patient population to post CAR T therapy or at least break that data out once we see it.

Chen Schor

executive
#54

You'll see the data once we present it. We're not necessarily and we haven't in MCL prioritize pre CAR-T or post CAR-T, the benefit that we see is in all third-line MCL patients and at some point, we might expand to earlier lines in MCL patients. So there is significant unmet medical need in third line and also there was a lot of interest by CAR T-naive and post CAR-T.

Edward White

analyst
#55

Okay. And the other question I have is just on 270. Is there any other information you can give us assuming that the IND is approved, do you think you can start the trial? And this year, any guidance you can give us on the number of patients or what endpoints you will be looking at is the first just going to be safety data? Or should we be looking for efficacy? Just any thoughts you can give us on that study?

Chen Schor

executive
#56

Sure, I'll start and Francesco let me expand. So first of all, we had a pre-IND meeting with the FDA. It was a very successful meeting. And based on that, we slotted the IND filing in the second quarter of this year. We're drafting the protocol. We're going to start with RCC and then expand to other indications. We haven't provided guidance exactly when we expect to start the study. But as you know, by now, we have CRO -- CDMO manufacturing capabilities as well as in-house manufacturing capabilities. So I would expect that we would start the study in the short term after we cleared IND with the FDA. Regarding the number of patients and endpoints, I think it's premature. We'll just show the design of the study but it's RCC study and probably not completely different than prior RCC studies. Francesco or Blake, anything you want to expand here?

Francesco Galimi

executive
#57

Yes. So on the study design, obviously, would be a Phase I first in human for that particular asset. And so there would be a dose-finding portion of the study and the primary end points will obviously be safety. But as usual, preliminary efficacy will be carefully monitored and will be a secondary end point. So it's going to be a pretty standard Phase I. We expect that those finding exercised to be relatively quick, relatively because some information we can cross reference from our prior asset is no longer completely new platform, but we have quite a bit of the clinical experience with the platform now with...

Blake Aftab

executive
#58

Maybe just adding to this that I personally am excited about this program. In cell therapy, the first part of the problem is to get the cells to where they need to be in solid tumors, it has been a challenge. With gamma delta T cells, there is tissue tropism to the kidney tissue. So that's one. So that we want to get there. Then once you get there, you want to try to hit the tumor well and that's why we chose the CD27 ligand because it has shown better cytotoxicity and you need lower antigen density. So you want to hit the tumor hard. Then you have some heterogeneity potentially in the tumor. We know that in gamma delta T cells, we have innate and adaptive, as additional mechanism of actions. And we now at least based on our experience with ADI-001, that one would expect Cmax and AUC, which is comparable to autologous CAR-T. So there's a couple of contributing factors that really differentiated. It's not by coincidence with following as a strategy, the tissue tropism of the gamma delta 1 T cells. And the additional components that you've seen, you'll see in other programs as well. So the emphasis is on differentiation for patients and high points of success.

Operator

operator
#59

Our next question comes from Justin Zelin from BTIG.

Justin Zelin

analyst
#60

So maybe first in the lupus nephritis study. I understand you're not disclosing the lymphodepletion regimen exactly today. But could you let us know if you're planning to move forward with a single lymphodepletion dose? Or if you plan to assess multiple doses in that study.

Chen Schor

executive
#61

Single.

Justin Zelin

analyst
#62

Okay. Great. And you also mentioned the possibility to move into additional autoimmune indications. Can you give us an idea of what indications might be in that list? Like are you looking at MS or rheumatoid arthritis? And maybe just any additional color there would be helpful.

Chen Schor

executive
#63

Not necessarily MS and RA although they're also potentially plausible. But there is a host of B cell-mediated or immune diseases. And there is -- honestly, there is an interest in quite a few of them. We have to prioritize and focus on a few. So I would just stay tuned until we provide additional update there. There is a huge unmet medical need. You just need to pick on what patient population you want to focus on.

Justin Zelin

analyst
#64

And then the mantle cell, do you feel comfortable with the dose level 4 cell dose in this population? Or is there any potential that you might have additional data from any of repeat or cyclic dosing cohorts here that might inform you're thinking about a dose moving forward?

Chen Schor

executive
#65

We feel very comfortable when you look at our data in MCL, starting with lower doses is the nice complete responses. You see nice durability. When you look at the maximum administered dose, as you know, we reached 29 and then enhanced lymphodepletion was well tolerated. So the enrollment CAR T is with enhanced lymphodepletion and dose level 4 in this patient population and that's the focus.

Operator

operator
#66

We have time for one more question. And the final question will come from Soumit Roy from Jones.

Soumit Roy

analyst
#67

First, lupus nephritis program. Could you give us a little detail? I apologize if you talked about it already, have you tested out in mouse models to see cell-free DNA level and how it affect, on how effective it is compared to the competitor drugs on reduction of cell-free DNA levels? And second one is a bit on the patient population. If these are late-line patients, you're assuming these are going to be refractory to tender of care? Or you think you can still use in your induction therapy with standard of care and then coming with your...

Chen Schor

executive
#68

Perfect. Thank you for asking. Why don't we start with Blake for the first question, then Francesco can address the second part of your question, Blake please.

Blake Aftab

executive
#69

Yes. I was trying to catch that question on the cell-free DNA, but do you mind repeating the context for me?

Soumit Roy

analyst
#70

Like have you tested out in lupus nephritis mouse model, if there is a reduction in the level.

Blake Aftab

executive
#71

Yes. No, thanks so much. As Chen mentioned and as we reported today, we cleared the IND and of course, the nonclinical component of that included evaluation, not in mouse models, mouse models as far as predicting and testing for a human-based gamma delta T cell like ours, some compatibility issues have consider there. Are you really testing your clinical drug or a mouse surrogate. So what we actually did is we actually look directly at primary B-cells from patients with lupus nephritis. And we obviously reported as part of that IND, significant impact on the B-cell compartment derived directly from those primary patient samples. So I think that's the best clarity that we can provided at this time as far as the preclinical evidence for the activity of ADI-001 on the B-cell compartment in patients.

Chen Schor

executive
#72

I think the best evidence you can see it in our clinical studies to date, you can see the depletion of the B-cells. So that at least in patients with depleted cells, which is what you care about. And then the second part of your questions, which would you remind us?

Francesco Galimi

executive
#73

Yes. It was about the eligibility of the patients, correct?

Soumit Roy

analyst
#74

Yes, trying to understand like how refractory these patients are, would you be able to -- if you see efficacy, but not heavy efficacy would you be able to combine it with standard-of-care induction therapy or whether there is a steroid tapering in the protocol? Or would you have an enrollment criteria based on the EGFR status or urinary protein levels. So how are you thinking what kind of patients would you be enrolling?

Francesco Galimi

executive
#75

Sure. Sure. That's yes, it's a great.

Unknown Executive

executive
#76

No, I wouldn't give specific numbers yes. Go ahead.

Francesco Galimi

executive
#77

No, I will not provide specific but the general logic, it's a very important question. As you can imagine, we have discussed in detail with the FDA, we have agreed exactly on the plan in a variety of ways. So first of all, we have agreed on the definition of refractory, as you know, in autoimmune in general and locally particular, refractory is not always as clear cut as in oncology where you have therapies that come and go, responses that come and grow progression, et cetera and the management of these patients is far more complex in many ways. And so we have a set of agreed criteria that define what prior therapies and what type of response to those prior therapies the patients have to experience in order to be eligible for our study. Also, we have agreed on a rather thorough I must say, set of criteria regarding what type of therapies had to be stopped when and can be resumed when. The study is still a study that is not in combination between ADI-001 and any other anti lupus agent. But of course, for the purpose of a healthy study conduct, you need to add provisions that cover what type of additional therapy, if necessary, can be given with what timing, what dose, et cetera, et cetera. And all of that is carefully detailed in the protocol and agreed upon by the FDA. I'm not sure we want to provide too many specifics right now but we are essentially ready to go.

Chen Schor

executive
#78

But I want to add that with the type of T cell depletion that we see and what you see from et al. in a couple of autoimmune diseases you would expect essentially that following treatment, you could potentially see treatment free patients that do not need any additional treatments.

Soumit Roy

analyst
#79

Understand. One last question, a bit broader question on the focus of the company itself in 2024. How should we think it is it going to be NPL will continue to -- will be the lead story for 2024 as lupus nephritis program develops and lupus would be a key story in 2025? Or how should we think?

Chen Schor

executive
#80

Yes. It's a function of a pace of enrollment, pending how enrollment goes, we may have additional data in all the immune indications in the second half of the year. So the focus from an operational perspective is NCL for the NHL study, autoimmune diseases for the additional indication for the ADI-001, filing the IND for 270 and then starting the clinical study in RCC, declaring potentially a clinical candidate for our prostate cancer program that also has significant differentiation, we'll expand on this in the future. So that is the focus from an operational perspective. When you think about it and you step back, it's focusing where we see differentiation and potential significant benefits for patients and so far, we expect an MCL autoimmune, renal cell carcinoma and maybe another CD70 expressing tumors and potentially in the future, will progress to prostate cancer as well.

Soumit Roy

analyst
#81

Congratulations on the progress.

Chen Schor

executive
#82

Thank you.

Operator

operator
#83

That completes our call for today. Thank you for joining.

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