ADT Inc. (ADT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 10, 2020

New York Stock Exchange US Consumer Discretionary Diversified Consumer Services conference_presentation 45 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#1

Good afternoon, investors. My name is Pete Christiansen. I'm on the payments, processors and IT services team here at Citi. This afternoon, great to have ADT participate in our conference. We have CEO, Jim DeVries; and CFO, Jeff Likosar; from ADT. Gentlemen, thank you for joining us today.

James DeVries

executive
#2

Thank you, Pete. It's great to be here.

Jeffrey Likosar

executive
#3

Thanks, Pete.

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#4

Jim, one of the things I've realized, and actually, it happened on an earlier one-on-one is that there's a lot of new investors perhaps that are new to the ADT story. A lot of investors probably who are aware of ADT, but maybe less familiar with your business model and maybe perhaps some current trends that you're seeing. I think it would be a good idea, perhaps, if you could just go through a run-through there that -- to help some new investors get acclimated to the story.

James DeVries

executive
#5

Yes. Great. And again, Pete, thanks for inviting us. And anybody that's joined today, thanks for investing the time to learn a little bit more about ADT. I'll share just to your question, Pete, a little bit of a high-level overview of who we are. So ADT is a 146-year-old company. Historically, we've been very security-centric. We'll get into how and when and why that's changing a bit going forward. But the brand is -- has come to meaning security and safety and peace of mind. It's an unparalleled brand, 98% unaided brand awareness, 60% -- 98% aided awareness, 60% unaided, what we call brand short cut that is the frequency with which customers only consider ADT when they're buying is 60%. And so we enjoy a phenomenal brand in the security space. We're a mission-driven organization. I think many of our 20,000 associates feel something akin to first responders playing a role that we do to protect customers, both their businesses and their families. We have a lot of long-tenured employees who do a terrific job for us. We're national. We operate in the United States only. And we are effectively a SAC business. So we have an outlay of cash that we invest to acquire customers. And then via a revenue payback of about 2.3, 2.4 years we get a return on that investment. Roughly 80% of our revenue is recurring revenue. So it's a durable, recession-resistant -- recession-resilient business. About -- give or take, about 80% of our revenue is also in the residential and small business sector. And then we've got a fast-growing commercial segment as well. And in that commercial business, Pete, we're about $1 billion. About 20% of our revenues are in commercial. We're bullish both about the residential business and the commercial business. Commercial, prior to the pandemic, was growing at low double digits and is the area of our business that during the pandemic has had the most stiff headwinds. But when the pandemic passes, we continue to be bullish about that business. We've said a number of times we think that the business is delayed, not diminished.

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#6

That's helpful. Let's dig into some of the end segments that you have. We'll start off with commercial. Then we'll talk more on residential and certainly on the recent Google partnership, which was recently announced. But first on commercial. Just wondering if we could dig a bit deeper there. If you can dissect some of the trends and performances you're seeing between your national multisite kind of accounts business versus small business. What are some of the trends that you were seeing heading into COVID there? And perhaps, what has changed? And what are you keeping an eye out for?

James DeVries

executive
#7

Yes. So the -- so as I mentioned, the commercial business is the area of our business that has had the most softness as a result of the pandemic. And most of that is a result of having limited access to the customer premises. It's a very diversified business. We are benefiting from the fact that a healthy amount of commercial -- of our commercial business is of a recurring nature. The revenue is recurring in commercial as well as in residential. Not the same proportion, but there's a nice healthy recurring base of revenue in commercial as well. And then, Pete, that diversification in many ways is helping us withstand the pandemic in a better way than we otherwise would. For example, we have a lot of depths in warehouse and distribution protection in that space, and that sector is doing well. We have a lot of work, a lot of expertise in hospitals and hospital business is doing well. And then not unimportantly, you mentioned the National Account business. We have a National Account team that's second to none. And just a month or so ago, we announced our largest ever deal with Family Dollar, Dollar Tree, which was a terrific addition to the National Account team. So premises have been tough to get into, and that has caused us to tap the brakes a bit. But we're bullish that we can get back to that double-digit growth level once it passes, and the headwinds won't be quite as severe because of, a, the diversification of the business; and b, the fact that there's some recurring revenue in commercial as well.

Jeffrey Likosar

executive
#8

And Pete, one thing I'd add. Jim talks about diversity. That's been a focus of ours, over the past few years to diversify the portfolio. A couple of comments that I'd also make just on our overall model for anybody new to the story. Jim said, we're a subscriber acquisition model and our mission is serving our customers and protecting our customers, of course. But for shareholders, it's about optimizing the return on invested capital, generating long-term positive cash flow. And while there's a number of metrics that people could use to evaluate our business, our focus is really on balancing those measures. So to generate that return, we're focused on profitably serving our existing customers. If you look at EBITDA or measures like that, we're focused on retaining our existing customers. We're taking actions, providing good service so they stay with us longer. And then we're focused on reducing the cost that takes us to acquire new customers. So becoming more efficient in spending or SAC. If we start to optimizing in one of those, we, of course, could, if we're willing to sacrifice the others. And one of the points about commercials that gives us diversity. Our residential business tends to have higher margins, but it also costs more to acquire those customers. Commercial customers on average don't cost quite as much to acquire. The margin rates are quite as high. The attrition characteristics are a little bit better. So one thing we love about the diversity in the portfolio is it helps us balance each of those objectives. And then one other thing I'd add for anybody who's new to the story is we've made a lot of progress doing that. Over the past several years, we're about -- we're more than a $5 billion company today. 5 years ago, we were a $4 billion company. We've grown our EBITDA by more than $450 million 2019 compared to 2015. Our customer attrition is 300 basis points approximately better than it was because of all of those service improvements. We've grown our cash flow by an amount sufficient to cover our debt service. In other words, our levered free cash flow is greater than our unlevered cash flow used to be. And one of the things that's really exciting now is having made a lot of progress in a lot of those areas. We were at a spot network turning to a little bit more of a forward growth posture with the Google deal recently announced being a very exciting item that underpins that transition.

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#9

I agree with you on the free cash flow front. I think I was looking at an earlier chart, and comparing old ADT versus new ADT. And your free cash flow margins are markedly higher, and it seems that diversification is playing into that. But one of the things I wanted to ask about was in commercial, particularly in National Accounts, and I want to dig more into the Dollar Tree deal, which is very impressive. It's a 100% penetrated market. So how does ADT compete versus some of its rivals, particularly a brand that was once a part of ADT there? So what is the differentiating factor that's allowing you to win deals like a Dollar Tree?

James DeVries

executive
#10

Yes. Pete, this is a service business. This is a commercial business. And we rounded out our portfolio. The business can be broken into 4 major areas: intrusion, card access, video and fire. And with the acquisition of Red Hawk in December of 2018, that filled that last area of fire for us and allowed us to create some revenue synergies and bring on one of the most talented, if not the most talented, group of fire experts in the country with the acquisition of Red Hawk. The way to win in commercial is all about service. These are large customers. They're very demanding. And everyone has, for the most part, access to the same hardware, the same service, same software and you win by day in and day out, great service to the customer. And the only way to grow as rapidly as we've grown is through taking share and we've been successful in doing so.

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#11

That's a good transition into residential, is on the service capability and quality. And that was a big tenet in your IPO comparing versus the older brand -- I'm sorry, the older company, where service had been lackluster. Can you give us an update on -- and you made great strides while you were in private for a period of time there. Can you give us an update on how service quality has trended? And what you -- what are some benchmarks KPIs that you've been particularly focused on nowadays?

James DeVries

executive
#12

Yes. The lead indicators on KPIs have been fantastic for us. We measure Net Promoter Score, and our Net Promoter Scores are at or near record levels. Our call centers are performing well. Our field service folks have done a phenomenal job right through the pandemic, extending through the civil unrest. And couldn't be more proud of what the team has achieved from a KPI perspective. Productivity is tracking well, all customer SAC measures. So we feel great about the lead indicators on the KPI front. And then, unimportantly, a lag indicator that gets a lot of attention, it's customer retention. As you know, Pete, we've said a number of times that the improvement in customer attrition won't be linear, but we've had a terrific first half of the year. Our trailing 12 as of June 30 was 40 basis points improvement, going from 13.5% to 13.1% And so retention as a lag indicator has continued to improve as well.

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#13

That's great. More on the residential side. So the last couple of months, we've all been stuck at home. There's also been an element of some social unrest in the country. Perhaps you can discuss maybe how some of those issues have played into recent trends and in greater context of talking about how resilient the ADT model can be in a downturn? But it would be great to see how you interpret some of the trends that have occurred during COVID impacting the ADT residential business?

James DeVries

executive
#14

Yes, you bet. So the trends around COVID have very much been sort of the opposite of the trends around civil unrest. As you can imagine, civil unrest has served as a demand catalyst for our business, and COVID was a headwind. In particular, at the height of shelter-in-place, when like in the commercial business, we had difficulty getting into the customer's home, there were 3 -- I'd say, 3 themes that we anchored on as we navigated our way and continue to navigate our way through the pandemic. The first is -- I talked about this earlier. Our employees have been incredibly resilient. And we were and have been an essential service in every jurisdiction in which we operate. And our employees have done a really good job stepping up, providing great service, installation, sales throughout this pandemic. Jeff and I were talking a little bit earlier to an investor. We have about 5,000 monitoring and customer care employees. And in early March, roughly 100% of those employees operated out of call centers -- 9 different call centers throughout the United States. And as a result of what was really an existential threat of COVID-19, we needed to move those employees to remote work locations, principally their homes. And over the course of 9.5 days, we moved almost 100% of our employees to work from home. And the outcome from a service standpoint has been not to skip a beat. So the first theme has really been leveraging the commitment and resilience of our employees. A second theme for us has been really playing the long game. We wanted to go through the pandemic and manage our business in a way that we're playing for the long game. And so we've resisted extensive cost cutting. We've offered a lot of flexibility to employees. If employees were interested in taking furlough, we were very accommodating to try to make that happen. And essentially tried to optimize for the long-haul, not optimize for a stronger second or a stronger third quarter. So there's been this long-term orientation to how we interact with and manage within the pandemic. And then the last thing is taking safety very seriously. We've done a lot of work around communication and training and education. We've done a lot of work to make sure that our employees, even in the early days, had the appropriate PPE to protect themselves. And so our management of COVID-19 in both the residential and commercial space has kind of orbited around those 3 things: leveraging the resilience and prime dedication of our employees, ensuring that they're safe and playing for the long game.

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#15

Have we seen signs, I would imagine, during the peak COVID? Obviously, many customers wouldn't want to service technician in their home, which makes sense. But did you notice any trends, I guess, as state started opening up as we got into the summer, an element of pent-up demand?

James DeVries

executive
#16

A little bit. A little bit. Not as much as you might expect. Again, the service that we provide is a service that provides peace of mind. And customers made their way to allowing us more access than some might expect. Security is important to them. Peace of mind is important. And if there was something wrong with the system, we, for sure, had some depression in demand. And as May and June rolled around, some of that pent-up demand came through with increased service tickets but it wasn't terribly depressed even during the height of shelter-in-place in late April or early May.

Jeffrey Likosar

executive
#17

We also found, to Jim's point, people value peace of mind, like they always value peace of mind and are inclined. In many cases, we observe if there is -- if they needed service on their system to have that service perform despite the COVID-19 dynamic. But as that started to abate, was around the same time, there were other social dynamics at play, some of the same dynamics that caused demand for new systems to come back rather quickly in June as compared to April. We also saw an uptick in our normal service call rate and then the other measures we can look at and see that customers are using their systems little more. Maybe somebody who only arm their system periodically now they're arming it with a higher degree of frequency. So if there were some reason to need service, it will become more evident. So I would characterize it now as having come back to a degree from a demand level perspective, that's approximately normal. But there's a whole host of dynamics that are in play and it's just hard to parse the effect of each of those dynamics.

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#18

Well, it makes sense. At least it makes sense, engagement sales usually follows engagement, right? So no, that's good to see that.

Jeffrey Likosar

executive
#19

And one of the things that we've told investors for some time as we believed our model to be recession resilient, but we hadn't actually -- fortunately, I would say, it's unfortunate where the economy is in the situation it's in -- but we hadn't experienced it. Now that we are experiencing it, we're seeing as our hypothesis -- consistent with our hypothesis that consumers who value peace of mind value it as much, if not more in challenging economic times. And customers, even if they've fallen on some financial difficulty, they tend to cancel other things before they cancel the service that provides that peace of mind for them.

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#20

That's interesting. One of the themes that had been going on for ADT leading into COVID was the idea of offering financing for the equipment. So a little derivation from the SAC model, Jim, that you've talked about, but clearly an opportunity to improve capital efficiency. I'd love to hear your thoughts on some of the early days on how that effort is going. What have been some of the challenges that you've faced? And how do you see the financing option progressing over time for residential customers?

Jeffrey Likosar

executive
#21

Yes. I'll take that. So just a reminder, people ask us a lot about financing, but a reminder of what we sought out to accomplish was to improve our overall pricing model, make it easier for our salespeople to sell basic systems and more comprehensive instructions or more comprehensive systems, make for a more simpler structure, more options for the customer, including the availability or facilitated by the availability of an upfront financing model. And really, our objective is and was to drive more install revenue and larger systems, more add-ons, more upgrades, more ancillary devices, automation devices. So financing is a component. We piloted a host of different changes throughout much of 2018 for different upfront pricing structure, made -- experimenting with some different things with our recurring pricing, different offers and packages, including financing alternatives. We launched with the pilot in 2018 that included a third-party financing option that was in the form of a consumer loan. So we initially launched that way in certain pilot markets. That actually worked pretty well. But it caused the customer to engage with a third-party that added a little bit of clunkiness to the process for the customer who was having to interface in the 2 different parties go through 2 different versions of credit checks, ultimately would have been built. So in parallel, we were pursuing another alternative that involves a Bank Mizuho, who we ultimately structured this arrangement with that allow the customer to continue to interact just with ADT. Importantly, it also allowed us to maintain our historic ownership model. I mean for people new to the story, I'd highlight that in our normal model, ADT retains ownership to the equipment installed in most residences because we subsidize the cost of the installation to such a large degree. The third-party consumer loan model didn't lend itself to that, and we, therefore, transferred title to the equipment. So we ended up launching nationally this program with Mizuho Bank, the customer relationships only with ADT. We package the groups and receivable sell them monthly instead of every single transaction. So much more seamless experience for the customer. Single party, single credit check, easier for our sales team, better economics for us. It allows us to convert back to our historic ADT owned model, which we largely did for legacy ADT sales in the first -- but actually in the second quarter -- in the middle part of the second quarter. So this is now out nationally. It's effectively the model. If a customer -- a little different for legacy defenders, which we can talk about at some point of legacy ADT. They would be offered the opportunity to finance. We've seen nice increase in our installed revenue. We haven't seen any material effect on volumes. So we're same monthly rates, more install revenue coming from less reliance on subsidies and promotions and discounts on behalf of our sales team, and we're seeing uptick in the take rate on more services. So we're really pleased at how it's played out. As I mentioned earlier, it's hard to parse the effect of this offer from the effect of COVID-19 from some of the effects that caused demand to be higher or about the reasons. But certainly, it's a contributing factor to the some of the successes we've had in growing our adds despite the macroeconomic environment and also increasing our average install per new add, the availability of the financing structure. I'm sure we'll tweak it a little bit as we go because we're only a few months in. But out of the gate, it's off to a really good start.

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#22

So can you explain to me what's the chief value proposition for the residential customer to think about a financing option versus a more subsidized version of your service? Is it yes, I want to own the equipment or is there pricing concessions for monitoring rates? And how do you think that value prop, is it relative value proposition, will evolve as you build out this feature?

Jeffrey Likosar

executive
#23

Yes. So our -- the couple of objectives. One is to cause our sales teams to rely more on selling the value of ADT, selling the service ADT offers, selling the expertise, the trust, the 9 monitoring centers, the capabilities, the better equipment, the better ability of protecting homes and families and businesses. And one of the objectives here was to give our sales teams tools to sell on that basis rather than selling on the basis of price. So part of it is just to rely less on discounting and promotions. Then the other piece that's a value proposition for our customers is because we subsidized typically the base system. And by subsidize, I mean, we don't charge the customer the full cost that we incur to install the system. Another way to offset that is to encourage customers to include additional equipment and additional devices. And generally, while we don't sell those at large margins, generally, we earn at least some amount of margin and also the customer has a more comprehensive system, which will either probably and/or it will protect them better, depending on the nature of the devices and/or it will add them home automation features. And in both cases, we believe the customer has a better system, which we believe leads to too early maybe to prove this, but we like strongly believe that will lead to better retention over time. A customer who added a garage door opener because we expressed it in terms of that will be $1, $1.50 a month and added thermostat expressed in similar terms that maybe they wouldn't have considered otherwise. More likely than not that customer now uses their system, even if they don't on the security every night, they use it every day to open and close the garage door, for example, or to adjust the thermostat. So we believe, over time, there also will be some attrition characteristics. And then the one other thing I would add along those lines, also too early to have yet observed this, but we're really confident that having had this in place will be very beneficial as we launch in earnest our relationship with Google, and there'll be some version of a flywheel effect as we have even better and more automation, smart home type devices and have this alternative available to make them more affordable for our customers and to facilitate the selling process for our sales teams.

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#24

Jeff, you stole my segue. So thinking about more comprehensive systems. Certainly, the recent partnership with Google is a pretty pivotal moment for ADT. Can you walk us through the genesis of the partnership in terms of what you were thinking initially? And how it had -- the agreement has progressed up until the announcement? What do you believe is the key strategy here for this partnership for ADT?

James DeVries

executive
#25

So Pete, we started talking to Google in May of 2019. And I've shared this a couple of times. Every subsequent meeting we both sides got more excited about how many complementary strengths each of us had. And just about every subsequent meeting, the deal got larger and larger, the relationship got deeper and deeper and culminated in the announcement that you saw about a month ago, $450 million investment, 6.6% of our shares, $150 million cash contribution and we are already off to the races. Our folks and a fairly large team from Google working together on product development, go-to-market strategy, market research, how we're going to co-brand getting ready for what we call Horizon 2, our pro launch in May of 2022. We think this is a game changer for us. It allows us to pivot and focus not only on RMR growth, but sub growth. We're not going to depart from being focused on free cash flow, but we'll put a little more weight on the foot of growth. Especially as the partnership with Google facilitates really our ability to compete in the higher growing, faster-growing smart home market. As I think [ BPAC's ] clipping along at about a 20% compounded annual growth rate, and we think the partnership with Google will facilitate us doing very well together in that market. One more comment. You asked about sort of what motivated the partnership. And in a word, it's really -- it was -- were very complementary. Google brings a brand and its tech forward. They bring a brand as contemporary. We bring a brand that is about safety and peace of mind and security. Our skills are in distribution and in service and monitoring and installation, feet on the street, so to speak. They bring an enormous amount of capability in video analytics, data analytics. The hardware has us excited. It's award-winning hardware. The aesthetics are awesome. But what really gets us excited is the opportunity to leverage the technology that Google brings to the -- that Google brings to the party, video and data analytics in particular.

Jeffrey Likosar

executive
#26

And one thing I'd add too, that a number of investors the last couple of days have asked us how -- what led us to be attracted to Google, and it's all the reasons Jim described it. The other thing I'd add too is we're honored and flattered that Google chose us for some of those complementary kinds of reasons. And for us, it's natural, having made the progression over the past few years from having addressed -- not fully resolved and we never will be done, but having made massive progress on some of the customer service improvements that Jim described earlier, a number of operational improvements. Our focus has been on what I would describe as operational execution, and we're just -- we're at a natural spot now to transition or pivot towards a world where over the coming years we expect that we're in a more assertive growth posture and to do that with the partner like Google that exposes us in a more accelerated way to these faster-growing smart home markets. We could be more excited about where we are. Early days, but off to a really good start.

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#27

So you have -- there's an equity investment. There's a 7 year plan once it kicks off. There is a mutual agreement understanding between the 2 parties. What needs to be hammered out right now as it relates to the partnership? What are some of the items that both you and Google are working through right now? Is it -- how are you thinking about pricing and perhaps even go-to-market strategy over the next 3 phases -- horizons?

James DeVries

executive
#28

Yes. So the first horizon, Horizon 1, is -- principally orbits around the DIY space. And potentially selling Google hardware into our existing base. We've got about 3 million customers that are intrusion-only customers, and we're contemplating how we might cross-sell some terrific equipment and services into that base. And then as I mentioned, Pete, DIY is part of Horizon 1, and we'll have an ADT plus Google Premium DIY product sitting beside Blue by ADT. Blue by ADT will be targeted for a little more of a cost-conscious segment and ADT plus Google will be more of a premium segment. That's Horizon 1. Horizon 2 for us, what we call Pro launch, is where much of the heavy lifting is being done today. That's really 2 major lanes. Lane #1 is product development, hardware and software, and Lane #2 is marketing and involves things exactly what you just mentioned, how are we going to go to market, what is the pricing? How are we thinking about messaging, even the brand that we go-to-market with, we're testing into together with Google to make sure that we optimize the value of both of our brands together. So it's largely product development and marketing, market research today, building up to second quarter 2022 when we do our Pro launch.

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#29

When I think about the Pro launch, is this going to be a product that's initially geared towards your existing customers and converting them to a Google ADT holistic solution or are targeting perhaps the untapped potential out there, greenfield opportunities? What's the strategy there?

James DeVries

executive
#30

Yes. It's largely targeted to new customers in greenfield. We're contemplating ways where there can be compatibility with the systems that existing customers have but that's not where the focus is around Pro launch. The focus is on new customers, who are still security centric but smart home and connectivity with other devices. And the technology is a little more central to their interest than a pure security customer.

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#31

How does the rollout strategy differ between the DIY opportunity and the Pro Install? Obviously, you pointed out the value-add of the Pro Install over DIY to begin with. But now how does Google change that equation?

James DeVries

executive
#32

Yes. So Jeff mentioned how great we feel about Google selecting ADT as a partner. One of the reasons that Google selected ADT is their belief that smart home -- the vision of smart home that we both have really requires professional install. You're going to have 15, 18, 20 devices in the home, all of it interconnected, maybe underpinned with mesh WiFi. These systems get pretty complex, pretty fast. And when you have that kind of smart home customer, that's a customer that will require professional installation. There might be a small segment of population that has the skill and the time to do it themselves. But most customers are going to want somebody to do it for them and fix it when something goes wrong. And so we think that the larger smart home opportunity is really in Pro Install. DIY, we've debated for a long time that that's a discrete market. Very often a renter, sort of the SKU urban, SKU a little bit younger, SKU more tech centric, and there are 2 or 3 or 4 devices in that ecosystem. It's a much bigger, much more significant system in a Pro Install, and we think that they're discrete customers.

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#33

That's fair to say. By the way, I'm wearing a brace if people can't see. This is what you get if you do it yourself. Wish you guys did do so my work around the house here. So you have several horizons, 3 horizons to this program. Has this changed your spending or near-term capital allocation priorities? Is it a function of, let's save our powder for when the Google deal really kicks in? So just trying to get a sense here, what happens between now and when the Google deal kicks in from an operating point of view?

James DeVries

executive
#34

Yes, I mean, jump in here as well, Jeff. I wouldn't say in a meaningful way, it hasn't changed, Pete. The residential business is doing very well. As you know, it requires a lot of capital, and we're allocating capital to that business to continue selling the services that we sell. There is not a fundamental shift in capital allocation or how we go-to-market here in 2020, and I don't foresee a material shift in 2021. We've got more employees focused on the work with Google than we otherwise would. We're doing some hiring to add to that expertise, to add to that talent base. But in terms of a major shift or even a meaningful shift in terms of capital, I don't foresee it.

Jeffrey Likosar

executive
#35

Yes. I agree. I mean our capital allocation -- the single biggest place we spend capital is acquisition of new customers, some of which replace customers we lose to attrition. So the fewer we lose to attrition, the less capital goes towards their replacement and the more of the subscriber acquisition goes to growth. We've been focused on M&A, mainly commercial, mainly tuck-in type acquisitions. We've done a couple of larger acquisitions. So that will remain part of our strategy. We're focused on over time paying down debt. We're also focused on improving our debt structure. We've taken about 100 basis points out of our average interest expense through -- or average interest rate through a series of transactions over the past year, 1.5 years. We've refinanced in such way that our average maturity is now in 2026. We have an ongoing dividend that the Board, of course, has to approve each quarter, that have been paid every quarter. So the things may change a little bit with Google, not hugely material, is the upfront days will be focused more on investment and the growth that kicks in is more in the intermediate and longer term. So I agree with Jim, nothing noteworthy, nothing terribly material, but as we start spending the development funds, that will be a use of capital that wouldn't exist if not for the Google deal, but just not a change in direction by means at all.

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#36

That's helpful. And I think you bring up a big point about capital efficiency and the recent debt refi. You're saving quite a bit annually in interest expense. That's good to see. Jeff, one of the things I think ADT deserves credit for is one of the few companies that's really maintained its outlook during this whole period, at least in our coverage group. Most have suspended. But no, it's good to see that you have confidence enough in the business there to continue with your projections. Can you just walk us through some of the -- how the year you think is progressing? I know, first half was pretty heavy with -- on the install side. That comes -- does that continue throughout the rest of the year? Or just some color on perhaps the mix as we look towards the back half of this year in your guidance?

Jeffrey Likosar

executive
#37

Yes. Yes, sure. So our revenue in the first half -- well, actually, I'll take a step back. There's a host of dynamics that are playing out this year, some of which we anticipated, some of which we didn't, that affect some of the year-on-year comparisons. We sold our Canadian operations late last year. So that affects year-on-year. We acquired Defenders this year, which caused certain expenses that previously would have been recognized as capitalized deal on acquisition costs to now show up in the individual line items in our P&L, so cash flow positive but affects the EBITDA presentation. Defenders stores that's had an outright sales model. So we have more outright sales as a result. We also, as I mentioned earlier, converted our legacy ADT business to outside -- to outright sales temporarily because of the third-party financing alternative. I mentioned requiring consumer loans. We've converted that back. So to your specific question, we would expect to have meaningfully less recognized install revenue in the second half compared to the first half just because of the model. No effect on the cash flow and in fact the cash flow that comes from those transactions we expect to continue to improve based on the higher install revenue per unit, I was describing earlier. But more generically, we feel really fortunate to be in a position where we executed well. There for sure were other puts and takes associated with the way COVID-19 played out. Commercial sales hasn't performed as well, but offset to that as we benefited from a little bit less service cost for periods of time. There's been -- the year is playing out different from the way we originally thought. But we do have some degree of certainty based on the high percentage of our revenue that is a recurring nature. And now we have a few months under our belt to have demonstrated some of the recession resilient characteristics that we alluded to earlier. And while there's a higher degree of uncertainty maybe in terms of exactly how we get there, and we do still have a broader range of outcomes than we typically would have at this point of the year, and we don't have a crystal ball, but we feel really good about how we've executed so far and looking forward to closing the year out and then providing an update on our third quarter performance and our rest of year guidance when we get the third quarter closed here in a -- in just a few weeks and report earnings a few weeks thereafter.

Peter Christiansen

analyst
#38

Well, that's great. Gentlemen, I want to thank you so much for a very productive call. The story is certainly getting a lot more interesting. So Jim and Jeff, thank you so much. Look forward to hearing more as the story evolves going forward. Thank you.

James DeVries

executive
#39

Thank you, Pete.

Jeffrey Likosar

executive
#40

Thanks, Pete. Thanks, everybody, for joining.

James DeVries

executive
#41

Thanks everyone.

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