Aena S.M.E., S.A. (AENA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
October 26, 2022
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGood afternoon. This is the conference operator. Welcome and thank you for joining the Aena 9 Month 2022 Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Jose Leo, Economic Financial Director of Aena. Please go ahead, sir.
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveThank you. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to this third quarter '22 results presentation. On the call today, we have sitting next to me Ignacio Castejón, who is the new Finance Director of Aena. He joined just 3 weeks ago. He has a wealth of experience, both in the finance side of the business and in the airport industry. I will hand you over to Ignacio, who will be welcoming you and saying hello.
Ignacio Castejón Hernández
executiveThank you, Jose. Good afternoon, everyone. It's a real pleasure being today with all of you. I'm really looking forward to start working with you in the near future and I hope that we are able to interact very soon. Thank you, Jose.
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveThank you, Ignacio. And we start with the revenue. We'll start going through the main slides of the presentation. Starting with the key highlights. I think we are presenting to you today good set of results. Honestly speaking, it is a good set of results, and I will do my best to make you convinced that this is the case over the rest of the call. To start with, the traffic numbers are going really well. We see a significant growth indeed in the Spanish network, more than 140% year-on-year. And similarly, more than 153% across the group. We will later on comment on how this involves a significant improvement vis-a-vis 2019 and improve them vis-a-vis our expectations a couple of months ago -- 3 months ago on the guidance that we provided exactly at that time. The total revenue is growing by 65.6%. As we discussed over the last results presentations, this is not in line with the passenger number growth, due mainly to the accounting adjustments impacting the commercial revenues that we will discuss as well in a minute. The EBITDA is now reaching a really meaningful figure. EUR 1.3 billion in EBITDA is a very, very healthy figure, taking into account, well the background, where we are coming from and the challenges of the industry, reaching already more than 44% EBITDA margin going in the right direction and trajectory. The net result is healthy as well, close to EUR 500 million in net profit. Obviously, now entirely out of the tunnel of the losses from the challenges of the COVID experience. Finally, I would like to stress very, very importantly the performance in terms of cash. We have generated more than EUR 1.56 billion in cash. The difference between the cash generated by the operation of activities and the EBITDA is precisely the impact of the accounting adjustments impacting the -- or affecting the commercial revenues, as they are obviously deducted from the EBITDA that they have no impact whatsoever in cash terms. And I would like to stress that this is the company back in it's good health of generating very healthy cash very, very quickly and now in full compliance with the covenants and the obligations stated in the commitments. Moving on to the next slide. The most relevant thing here is that, as I said before, we are already recovering a good chunk -- a very significant chunk of the 2019 traffic. For the whole group, we are close to 86% of the total traffic of 2019. In the case of Spain, in the Spanish network, this is 86.1%. For Luton, it's slightly less. As we discussed a number of times, in the U.K., the traffic recovery is going slightly slower, but it's still 71%. And in the case of the Brazilian Airports, we have already exceeded the 2019 figures. Particularly, in the month of September, the traffic in that group of airports exceeded the September 2019 traffic by 8%. So this is a very good signal of how attractive and healthy EBITDA that particular market might be. Taking into account that the October traffic is also going in the right direction, to the point that it's showing a level of recovery even above the, you know, our experience in the months of -- in the summer months. We are now indicating that we expect to close the year with a level of traffic that will be slightly above the upper end of the range that we provided some months ago. So we will be north of 85%. I don't propose to dwell any longer on this slide, so we can move on to the next slide. As you know, in the month of August, we were awarded the concession of 11th airport in Brazil. We are providing here some -- let's say descriptive information. We may provide more insight into this project when we share with you the strategic plan in the coming weeks. Probably you are aware that we are planning to share with the market to arrange Capital Market Day on the 16th of November. And at that time, on that occasion, we will probably dwell a little bit more on this. But in the mean time, I would like to share with you the strategic side of this transaction. Of course, when you travel abroad, when you are acquiring airports in other countries, there is always an element of risk, extra element of risk, if you like, that is the knowledge of the market whether or not you are right strategically, whether or not you feel that you can apply some of the experiences and templates you applied in your own country. Well, we believe that Brazil is ideally shaped for Aena to deliver the sort of values that we have delivered in Spain over the last decades. The reasons for that, first of all, this is a large country. It's a country where the tourism industry hasn't been developed to the extent that we believe it could be developed. It is from the, let's say, volumes and the level of revenues that the tourism industry is generating in Spain. But we believe Brazil is ideally placed to do this and even more. On the other hand, for the country, the air transport connections are critical for obvious reasons, I don't need to tell you why. There is still a huge headroom to develop the low-cost carrier business proposition. Of course, there are very healthy low-cost carriers there, but still they have room to grow and to improve that industry. And also it's a country where honestly our experience of operating over there in the Northeast region is extremely positive in terms of the seriousness, the -- how trustworthy the regulation and the institutions are. So with all that in mind, we believe this is a good country to be in long-term. This is a good country to try and apply the similar, obviously some differences, but similar, let's say, experiences that we have -- already have in Spain, and a little bit there is value to be generated there. Now we are going to manage 20% of the total traffic -- air traffic in Brazil. More than 40 million passengers, 17 airports and the second largest airport in the country. So we believe there is value on that proposition. I just wanted to share this with you, of course, there would be more questions later, I'm pretty sure. And then finally, I go straight to the slides on commercial revenues and OpEx. The commercial revenue performance that we can see on Page 10, because you know that one thing is the headline revenue figure. Different thing is the real underlying business. When we look at the fixed variable rents that we are invoicing and collecting every day, we are reaching now a level of EUR 903 million, in fact it's 136% more than in 2021, which is not a surprise at all. But when you look at the next slide, Slide #11 and compare these figures with the 2019 figures, that was a year, exceptional year in terms of traffic as you know, the best in history. Can we move on to Slide #11, please. You can see there that the performance of the business has been improving quarter-by-quarter to the point that in Q3, overall, our rents are exceeding the same period rents in 2019 by 8.5%, with only 1 activity or only 1 commercial line, the specialty shops underperforming for obvious reasons, because this is the part of the business that was more affected by the COVID, in the sense of the number of shops ended up shutdown. And they remain shut down until we, let's say, put them again in the market through different vendors. So in total, we are now at close to EUR 900 million of fixed variable rents, billed and collected on a regular basis, against EUR 897 million in 2019. For me, this is good performance. And we can discuss the drivers, we can discuss the reasons, we can discuss whether or not this is a structural or it's just a matter of time that this can be impacted by other factors, that frankly nobody knows in full. But good news, this is good performance. Finally, on other operating expenses, what we can see is that what we have been telling you a number of times is being the -- well, there is a reality. The operating costs of this business excluding the electricity costs is at levels of 2019. And I believe this is going to be the case for the rest of the year, there or thereabout. This can be seen as bad news by some. This can be seen as a reality and the confirmation of something that I have been sharing with you for years already. They have already shared with you the reasons. I'm happy to answer again questions about what is behind this. It is a combination of structural changes in the business. It's a combination of quality standards required by regulators and passengers and airlines and stakeholders. It's a combination of course, of change in the reality of the Spanish market, the Spanish labor market so on and so forth. Then with regard to the electricity cost, this is the result of the evolution of the market conditions. We are not hedging yet. I'm sure you will be making questions on that and I will be very happy to provide some answers, that the electricity is the maverick element of this year's operating cost base. And let me finish -- spend 5 minutes trying to wrap up a number of things. Obviously, I'm not going to be focusing on every particular slide. I think Aena's situation coming out of the COVID tunnel is really good. To start with, we have improved right in the way we manage through the crisis in terms of our resources. And we are not experiencing, we are not facing any of the havoc situations other airports are experiencing across Europe. So we are accommodating a significant amount of growth and providing what I believe is a very good, very good -- perfect, very good operational experience. We have no issues whatsoever, other than obviously strikes in some of the airlines and things like that inevitably we have to face. But other than that, we haven't experienced any of the terrible situation, but obviously we're not happy with that some of our colleagues faced over the last months. Secondly, the traffic is performing really well. It's surprising us positively. Believe me that we were not expecting this kind performance to become a reality so quickly. Of course, no one knows what is behind or around the corner as a result of the macro conditions, nobody really. The airlines themselves are, let's say, watching out, monitoring this by the day. So far, they have no indication of any set back that they remain vigilant and we're doing the same. Thirdly, the revenues, the airport revenues, the airport charges are what they are. They are not coming as a surprise. You know, all the regulation, you know what the level of charges is set by the regulator. You know that we are, until 2026, we have it up and this is it. So no surprises. In terms of the commercial revenues, in my view, we are performing really, really well, I believe exceptionally well, much better than we could do 6 months ago. Obviously, the headline figures are affected by the DF7 adjustment. But that makes no difference to the cash and that makes no difference to the reality of the business. In terms of cost, the operating cost evolution is nothing. We are celebrating, of course. But it's not coming as a surprise, other than the energy costs that I'm prepared to take any hit you want to give me. In terms of cash, the business is generating EUR 1.6 billion in cash. And as a result of that, the debt is evolving very, very well, very healthy. And the impact of the changes in the market conditions is not going to be huge. We can discuss later. It's not going to be sort of make-or-break kind of situation in terms of the financial costs, because we have already now, as we speak, 80% -- this is not what you can see in the presentation, but we are already now hedged under fixed rates for 80% of our debt. In terms of the international experience, Luton and the Northeast Brazilian airports are performing really well. They are contributing already a meaningful amount to our EBITDA and this is going to improve over time. So they are good contributors, they are good businesses. And in the case of Brazil, the recovery of the traffic is amazing. In the case of our international strategy, I shared with you my -- our strategic news about Brazil. But of course, I'm ready to discuss further in detail. Finally, in terms of developing new businesses, the real estate business is already let's say moving on, with the award of the first slot -- sorry, lot of land with a very good result. So no doubt, of course, this is not the world we were used to in 2019. But I believe, honestly, that China from any angle is coming out of the COVID crisis in a very positive and a very attractive manner. This is it. Now we can open the Q&A session. Thank you very much, everyone.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The first question is from Nicolo Pessina of Mediobanca.
Nicolò Pessina
analystYes. I have about 3 questions. The first one, we read about the approval of the new strategic plan. So I'm wondering if you can give us any visibility on that dividend policy. Second question, maybe if you can provide an update on the level of yield dilution and concentration in the 9 months? And if you can give us any visibility on the full-year figure and on the 2024 K factor? And last question on the new airports in Brazil. If I look at the material made available by ANAC in Brazil, I see a regulated target of approximately BRL 16 per passenger in 2023, increasing 50% in 2024, which is well below the 43.6% you indicate, for example, for Congonhas in the press release this morning. So I'm wondering if you can explain how tariffs work in the contract? Which kind of tariff you expect to implement, and if it's correct to assume a 50% increase over the next year?
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveOkay. Well, with regard to the dividend policy, please bear with me. We should wait until the 16th of November. I think this is the kind of information that should be part of the strategic plan presentation, one of them. We've been discussing it today. In terms of the K factor and the yield dilution, I can share with you this data so far. This means in Q1 we had concentration by EUR 38.7 million. In Q2, we experienced dilution by EUR 29.3 million. In Q3, we experienced dilution by EUR 48.1 million. So in total, now we are in a position of EUR 38.6 million of dilution -- yield dilution accumulated. For the rest of the year, we may try to give you some indication later on. But frankly, I would say probably it's going to be there or thereabout with Q2 maybe, or something between Q2 and Q3. But please don't take this as categorically, okay? But what is clear is now the passenger mix and growth of the business and the load factors are taking us in the direction of further dilution, coming back to the situation we experienced over a number of years before the COVID, okay? With regard to the Brazilian revenues, I would rather ask you to be provided with this information at the time of the -- sorry, the strategic plan presentation we will be shedding some light on that. What is clear is that the analysis we have made of that airport is a combination of 2 things. One thing is definitely financials, of course. Otherwise, we wouldn't be there. On the other hand, don't forget the strategic perspective. We are going to be there for 30 years, 30 plus years, in one of the largest air traffic markets in the world, and managing 20% of the traffic of that country. So any views based on assessing the coming 2, 3 years would be in my view shortsighted.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Cristian Nedelcu of UBS.
Cristian Nedelcu
analystThe first one, if we look a bit at the cost of living crisis and potential implications for 2023, I know it's very early on, but could you give us any color on how you see the moving parts in 2023 traffic in Spain? Maybe what's the worst-case scenario? And can we say 90% of '19 traffic is the worst-case scenario and a recession in '23, could it be more or less? Secondly, the retail revenues per passenger, the strong growth versus '19, could you elaborate there how much of that is in the structural? You think there are still some temporary benefits in there and how you see the next few quarters? Do you think there is room for further improvement versus what you had in Q3? And the last one, if I may, can you comment a bit about the recent new wage inflation proposal for Spain, for public servants in '23 and over the next 3 years? When do you expect to see a final decision there?
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveOkay. Starting with views or expectations. Frankly, Cristian, you know we don't provide or at least we are not providing any news on 2023 for the time being. What I can tell you is that we don't know what the worst-case scenario could be. It depends very much on the severity of the evolution of the macroeconomic conditions, the war as well. I think this is definitely an element that everybody in Europe, at least should keep in mind. So we don't know. What we know is that so far there is no indication whatsoever of any worsening of the current trends. And when I say that, it is not only because Aena is monitoring that, it is because we are talking day-in and day-out to the airlines, and they don't see any indication of that. They are insisting that today the ability to predict the evolution of the bookings is, let's say, almost -- it has diminished dramatically. So they are mainly looking at the next month or next month at maximum. But at the same time, they don't see any indication of issues. And you have to take into account as well that they are -- there is a large market closed so far, which is the Asia market. I don't mean this is a dramatically important market for Spain, I recognize that. But this market is going to open as well sooner or later, probably sometime next year. And this will have a knock-on impact, a knock-on effect. So frankly, I cannot tell you what the worst cases scenario would be. What I can tell you is that everything seems to be heading in the right direction. The consequences of any macro conditions or war conditions worsening, we need to monitor it day-by-day. With regard to commercial revenues, well, the answer is yes. I think the way the commercial revenues are going, I think -- I cannot tell you whether this is a structural or not in the sense -- of course there are number of behaviors, social and personal behaviors taking place in our industry and other leisure industries that seems to be driven by psychological reactions on things like that. But on the other hand, we have headwinds -- sorry, tailwinds, coming from potentially the evolution of the dollar and the U.S. travelers coming to Europe or more, the fact that the U.K. citizens are now out of the -- obviously, they -- we can apply them duty free, let's say, prices things like that. So I can tell you, short-term -- and by short-term I mean this year, probably good part of this year, subject to the conditions I mentioned before. I don't see any reason to see the revenue per passenger going south at all. This is not a prediction. This is just an impression. Because also there, we expect specialty shops to also join at some point in time. The churn, they are lagging behind big time for aviation. So I don't see any reasons to believe that this is going to change in the coming, let's say 12 months or so. Wages. Well in Spain, the wages are for the civil servants and as you know, Aena is subject to the same rules. I already agreed to the best -- let me think twice. I think this year we have a 3.5% salary increase, so wage increases. And then combining this years, 2023 and 2024, because the agreement has been -- is subject to final signing, but I would say you can take it for granted. Combining 2022, 2023 and 2024, I think the compound growth in salaries will be probably around 9%, between 8% and 9%. I can't check that number for you specifically, but something between those 2 figures. And this is given, it's already done. So this is the kind of salary, wage increases that you should wait across the Board for Aena's personnel.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Luis Prieto of Kepler.
Luis Prieto
analystI had a couple of questions. I have seen that there is a year-on-year acceleration of cost from Q3 versus Q1 and Q2. Can you shed more light on this and then your views on the [indiscernible] from now on or do you looking price [indiscernible] for time being? And the second question is, if you could provide us with any [indiscernible]. So what could happen in the [ operations ] over the next couple of years, as you see in the context of today's inflationary environment?
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveOkay. Well, with regard to the energy costs, the increasing in this quarter is all driven, well, maybe there is an element of consumption, but frankly it's all driven by the price of the electricity. In Spain, the price of electricity -- well normally in Spain, the price of electricity, the spot price is something that is called OMIE, that you can check online if you wish. And if you look at that, this has been going south, going down, since I would say, mid -- I would say mid of the year, slightly later than that. But that was combined with the approval by the Spanish government from June 2022 till the March 31, 2023 of a so-called gas price cap. This gas price cap is suppose -- and this is indeed benefiting the whole system overall, because the price of producing electricity across the country has gone down because the gas producers have their price cap. But on the other hand, this should be obviously, money isn't falling from the trees. So there is a levy or is an extra cost imposed to final that across the different users. If you add to the, say, market price, the cost of this cap, the cost of electricity for Aena and for everybody else in the third quarter has been much higher than any quarter before, I think something like 30% from memory. I mean, if you add those components, the total cost has been not very far from EUR 300 per megawatt hour over the last quarter. So that's the reason. If you look at the market today, it's interesting, because the gas reserves has grown across the continent. The autumn is relatively warm, is really warm and the gas is being accumulated and not consumed. And as a reason of that, the price is falling. If we look at the price today, yesterday, probably it is EUR 300 per megawatt hour. It's probably something in the region of, I don't know, EUR 200. So significantly lower than that. So when we look at this -- and you can imagine they struggle to make decisions on hedging. Because what you can see today is that the prices of electricity fell over the last weeks. Obviously, nothing that you can compare with the trade prices, but there are still prices that look more attractive. So why not you are going to hedge? When we look at the hedging prices, they are higher. On the other hand, the liquidity of the market is really, really slimmed. So it's very, very difficult if not impossible to hedge more than a very, very small portion, unless you are prepared to push the prices up. And then when we look at the futures, the future market is indicating that 2022 -- sorry, 2023 is not looking good either. That June 2023, things improve. Well, who knows. This is what the market is signaling today, the futures. It's very difficult. What do you hedge? Taking into account the 2023 prices today are, let me double-check, well on average EUR 253, is what I have here. So EUR 250, let's say, for the sake of argument, per megawatt hour to hedge on 2023. Not easy. So it's not that we are skipping this. Simply the market is sending signals that are difficult to buy into. And on the other hand, once again, the hedge capacity is very, very limited, very limited, listing in this country or in this market to be more precise, because this is the Iberian market. It's both the Spanish and Portuguese market together. Of course, we are working on a long-term solution. The long-term solution would be a combination of our deployment of solar panels. It is already part of our plan, well before this took place. Secondly, we never throw some PPAs. We never throw some PPAs with the right conditions on the temporary basis, because as I said before, for 2024 onwards, the market is signaling a significant reduction, let's say, a significant fall in prices to the tune of 1/4 of the 2023 prices. I hope this helps. It's not simple. It's a very convoluted and cumbersome situation, that I think we're now experiencing.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Stephanie D'Ath of RBC.
Stephanie D'Ath
analystThe first one is regarding the Brazilian Airport exhibition, and you mentioned we would know more in your presentation during the strategic plan. But I was curious to know if we look at about EUR 0.5 billion acquisition and about EUR 1 billion of CapEx news. How are you thinking about financing that, what kind of cost of debt are you able to have locally? And you did mention 80% was hedged, but I'm not sure I did get your comment right is that regarding the Brazilian debt. And my second question is regarding the strong operating cash flow of the third quarter. You had a positive impact from working capital. What should we expect for the last quarter, still positive impact and for the full year? And then finally regarding other operating expenses, if I'm not mistaken, you've historically said that absolute amount of increase compared to 2019 for every quarter, we kind of remain in the same range. I think for the first quarter, we were above EUR 60 million higher at operating cost versus '19, for the second quarter about EUR 75 million. And for the third quarter, that number turned to EUR 105 million. So what should we expect for Q4 in particular, inside of the commentary you just made that electricity prices have been coming down and that therefore hopefully the energy headwind for this fourth quarter won't be as high?
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveTo start with, I may need to ask you to remind me some of the question, sorry. Anyways, to start with the Brazilian, what I'm going to share with you now about the Brazilian, the new acquisition is numbers, to make the numbers clear, because I think there is some confusion around that. The enterprise value of this acquisition is BRL 3.2 billion. BRL 3.2 billion, if I'm not mistaken, is something like EUR 700 million. And how we can come to this figure? First of all, there is an obligation to inject BRL 1.64 billion by way of capital in the company. Secondly, we offer BRL 2.45 billion of let's say to pay that for the concession, the upfront payment. So this in total means, some BRL 4.1 million, shy of that figure BRL 1 billion. Out of the -- leaving the BRL 2.45 billion, going to the company and straight away will be paid to the Brazilian authorities. The BRL 1.64 billion of capital will be used to deal with a number of costs, including the redundancies of all the staff in the airports, as it happened with other concession in Brazil before. But then there will be something like BRL 800 million left in cash in the business. So that means that the enterprise value of this transaction deducting that cash is BRL 3.2 billion. This is the figure. Nothing else, there is no more -- there are no more payments to be made. Our plan is to, one, how to leverage, how to raise debt to pay for that is a matter that we are working on. Now as we speak, what is clear for us, the equity element is BRL 1.64 billion, okay? What I'm sharing with you, what is the particular solution we are going to implement to gain the business. But this business, as it happens in the Northeast Airports, all the CapEx, all the capital, all the developments will be funded via debt. And in Brazil, that debt is always internal or to a very significant extent provided by the public banks, by the BNDES in particular. And then we may need to add some Capital Market -- some amount of debt raised in the Capital Markets over there. But normally, the majority of this funding is coming from the -- long-term is coming from the public institutions in Brazil. I don't know if that helps. Otherwise, please let me know. Then there was a second question, sorry?
Stephanie D'Ath
analystOn the working capital side.
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveOkay. Well, don't be too fixated on the working capital, because the reason why the working capital is better this year than the previous year is because remember, we are accumulating MAGs. And this time we are accumulating very little by way of MAGs. So I cannot predict to the year how the working capital is going to be evolving over the coming months. But this is, in the current circumstances where the MAGs have very little weight in the business, this is not the big deal. If you can say that the EUR 1.55 billion of cash generated is exactly the EBITDA plus the DF7 adjustments, so obviously in the past where we have a very significant amount of MAGs being accumulated to be built and collected at the end of the year, that could play a much more significant part. But definitely in 2021, it was massive, that was massive, was unbelievably high. You know why? Because we have this EUR 700 million accumulated that we are now taking to P&L. But in normal circumstances today, this is not going to be a major element. And if anything, it may involve let's say some of the cash to be collected 3 months later, 3 months earlier, things like that, but nothing critical. And then there was another question I believe.
Stephanie D'Ath
analystThe last question was on OpEx and the trend in terms of...
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveClearly, you've got me. So now I'm going to more prudent. I would say the total costs excluding energy for the whole year, it's going to be there or thereabout at the 2019 level. This is my summary. Of course, there are always elements of the cost that you cannot predict fully, because in this business the traffic and the impact of the volumes is sometimes, let's say, de novo a bit. But by way of headline, this is it, excluding energy. Energy is something I cannot commit. Energy today seems to be going in the right direction. So I would have thought that my expectation is to have an energy bill in the fourth quarter that will be below the third quarter. But I cannot commit to that because we are entirely subject to the evolution of the market and the price cap -- sorry, the gas price cap element as well.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Elodie Rall of JPMorgan.
Elodie Rall
analystSo my first question is on the debt, and you said that 80% of your debt is fixed rate. But could you remind us of the portion of debt that is maturing between the next, like between '23 and... [Technical Difficulty]
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveElodie, for a while you, let's say, dropped from the line.
Elodie Rall
analystOkay. Is it better? Do you hear me better?
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveYes. Now you're absolutely fine. So your question was, sorry?
Elodie Rall
analystMy question was on the debt and the maturities that are coming due or due in the next 3 years between '23 and '25. What would you expect in terms of refinancing conditions for those maturities? If you could remind us how much is maturing and what you would expect and the additional impact on the financial costs going forward? That's my first question. And my second question, just quickly on COVID compensation. I think you still registered some compensation in Q3. So if you could just clarify how much and what we should expect for Q4?
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveOkay. The maturity schedule is something you can find on Slide #22 of the presentation. What you can see there is that there is a significant pick in 2024. 2023 is -- well, frankly, it's a very modest year in terms of debt maturities. 2024 is close to EUR 2 billion. But this is driven by the fact that we took some debt over the COVID period, with a view to pay it back, to be perfectly honest, if and when. So we are not at all concerned by that. We may even, if the conditions are right, even pay it earlier or we can refinance part of that and, say, spread it over a number of years. So this is -- the refinancing of part of the debt is something that I'm sure we will be doing shortly. And of course, the refinancing will come with a cost and that will depend on the market conditions. For instance, to get to the 80% fixed or hedged rates that we have today -- today, we mean today because if you look at the Slide #22, at the end of September, that figure was 71%. To get to this point, we needed to pay more, because we transfer some of our floating debt into fixed debt. And on average, we ended up paying 3% over that -- chunk of that is something around EUR 1.2 billion of debt. So it's coming on the cost, of course, inevitably. I mean, we are in it for more. We are not anymore in the world of, let's say, 0 cost debt. We have to accommodate to that reality. In the case of Aena, as an individual company, of course, this will have an impact. But this is really, really moderate, very moderate impact in the tens of millions, nothing major. The different thing is when you contemplate acquisitions, when you are financing large capital projects in other subsidiaries, of course that will come with a cost that will be, let's say commensurate with the reality of the market. But you need to look at that on a case-by-case basis. But when you think of Aena, which is what you can see on Slide #22, the impact of any refinancing will be moderate. But it's true, we are not anymore in the world of the 0% interest. We will see the average interest rate to move up, but still our long-term debt is in such a good set of conditions. The average cost of debt will be at probably, I would say, best-in-class.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Sathish Sivakumar of Citi.
Sathish Sivakumar
analystActually I have 1 question on Brazil. If I look at the market share of the top 3 airlines in Brazil, it's around 90%. And in your opening remarks, you did mention about your plans around stimulating traffic. Given the consolidated nature of the market, how do you actually like stimulate more traffic growth in Brazil? And then just related to that, can you actually comment around the utilization of the airports that you actually have won concession for, just to get a sense like what are we doing there to actually grow volumes, i.e. traffic?
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveYes. Sorry, I didn't understand your second question. With regard to the first question, well, there are 3 airlines there, but there is still room too. That market hasn't been liberalized to the extent that other markets have. We believe that over a long period of time, there is still room for the Brazilian low-cost market to develop further. Of course, the way -- I have to be very clear that particularly in Congonhas, in Congonhas the story is not one of growth or dramatic growth. Of course, we expect that in Portugal. But it's not one of dramatic growth because it's an airport that has a number of constraints and limited growth capacity. So this is more a matter of utilizing properly the airport and improving some of the parameters. The rest of the airports, obviously, they don't have the wait of Congonhas. Really this is, Congonhas is proportionately important to us. But the rest of the airports have room to grow. There is a huge amount of congestion in the key Brazilian Airports. And in the Sao Paulo area, definitely this is the case. And you can read in the press there, that there is a need to find ways to final call that into other airports. And some of the airports in the portfolio are not very, very nearby, but not very far from being able to operate and serve to this region. So without getting into the detail -- I'm not a technical individual, but what I can tell you this is not a growth -- this is not driven by growth. The equity story here is they are going to be driven by growth at Congonhas. It is an element of that -- there is an element of that, but this is not the critical point. There is no room for growth in the other airports indeed. And the second question, if you can say that again, please?
Sathish Sivakumar
analystYes. Sure. It's actually around the utilization, i.e., like say what is the terminal utilization today and what is the runway utilization for the portfolio? Just to understand that how much scope is there in terms of capacity point of view to grow further?
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveYou are asking about these particular 11 airports that we are...
Sathish Sivakumar
analystYes. Yes.
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveDefinitely. Already there is room because they haven't recovered. Congonhas hasn't reached the level of traffic recovery, that for instance we have in the Northeast Airports. And I think from memory, they are around 75%. So there is still room coming from the COVID impact. But Congonhas is also already fully and Congonhas will be full. So Congonhas will be growing more than Italy over a number of years. But this is not about adding massive numbers of extra capacity. This is not the case. [indiscernible] which is in the middle of city.
Operator
operatorYour next question is from Johannes Braun of Stifel.
Johannes Braun
analystYes. I have 2. First question would be on your good performance in the commercial business. In the press release, you mentioned that you have also increased prices in car rental and VIP. I was wondering if you can quantify the price increase there? And then secondly, coming back to the cost inflation, at which traffic level will you reach the 2019 EBITDA performance considering cost inflation? Obviously, I guess, we need to adjust for the MAG write-down for that. But still what would be the strategic levels that you need for 100% EBITDA recovery given the structurally higher cost base?
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveWell, I'm afraid, I'm not going to answer your second question -- your last question and I would rather stay silent on that. But definitely, they will be higher than the 2019 traffic levels. On the other hand, commercial revenues, you mentioned car rental and VIP, happy to share with you the price increases, but I don't know if we have them handy now. So the IR team will be providing you with this. I understand, that was it. Sorry, I forgot to answer your question before on the COVID costs. So let me -- okay, the COVID costs on Q1 was EUR 12.4 million, in Q2 EUR 51 million, in Q3 EUR 59 million. So in total, we have accumulated in our charges, EUR 122 million in COVID costs charged to the airlines. And I don't know if we have an estimate of the Q4, but anyway we will be -- we could provide that offline later on if you wish. I'm sorry for not answering the fourth.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Dario Maglione of BNP Paribas Exane.
Dario Maglione
analystI have 3 questions. One on cost, to understand in Q3 for Aena S.M.E., cost of CNS in 2019, apart from the electricity cost. Has inflation kicked in yet, in the outsourced third-party contracts? And if not, when will that happen? Second question on commercial revenue. Within commercial revenue from Q3, how much was energy pass-through to tenants, and same figures for Q3 2019? And the next question is on the P factor which was around 0.7 for next year tariff. And my understanding is that was calculated based on the change in cost between 2021 and the previous year. So in theory, next year you're going to get a much bigger P factor. However the CNMC is saying that the energy cost inflation is an issue that belongs to Aena, they have been hedged and so if not exceptional. So what shall we expect the P factor the next year?
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveOkay. The first question, it's difficult to say. I think there is an element of inflation already in some of the cost increases. But honestly it's not the key driver. So I have to say that the level of inflation that we are witnessing these days in the Western countries such as 7%, 8%, 9%, sort of that, it hasn't been impacting us yet on our third-party services. But on the other hand, at the minute, we have 90% of the 2023 third-party services already contracted. So I believe this is a protection. To the extent that these inflation rates are not going beyond 2023, I suppose there will be a time when, let's say, the impact would be potentially diluted and people will be back to do aggressively. But it will depend very much on the nature of these inflationary pressures. If they become strictly at that level, there will be massive problem. But hopefully the monetary policy decision makers will be fighting hard to about that to happen. So this is a transitory or temporary situation to establish -- 90% of our cost bill -- third-party cost bill is already engaged and contracted and they should honor the contracts the way they are. So on balance, I believe that we are not going to be hit that hard. But if I'm honest, I cannot tell you we have already experienced this sort of impact that, the stated 9% inflation rates could bring about. With regard to the P factor -- I forgot the second question. Okay, pass-through of energy cost. The pass-through of energy costs on average for 2022 on average, should be around 20%. So obviously you can take that as a reference for the whole year for every quarter. In terms of P factor, well, you're right, we are supposed to gain let's say passing through the energy costs. And I think you may have -- CNMC, this is my personal view after talking to them. They have a more flexible opinion about the possibility of taking a look at the P factor on the coming years. Because they have realized that this index is not working at all. I have to refuse entirely that we should have hedged these. We have done -- all right. For a number of years, for years we have been buying energy in the spot market. As a result of that we achieved 2 goals. First of all, we delivered a very, very effective, efficient and cheap energy bill to the airport, investors in general, and nobody complained about it. And secondly, we also made sure that the regulator when assessing the cost to be factor in the broader discussions, they were looking at the real actual costs and nothing -- otherwise, it wouldn't have been legitimate obviously to hedge. But when you hedge normally, this is more costly. So nobody complained about it. Everybody was happy with that. And then all of a sudden there is a major, major change in the market. We are taking a hit. I think this is not reasonable. But this is the kind of discussion that will take a while to entertain with the regulators. And I would say we've covered them as well, because we need to take a look at how these things should be hopefully modified going forward. We will do our best.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Achal Kumar of HSBC.
Achal Kumar
analystI was dropped-off in between. So what kind of growth is structural? What kind of growth is not structural? How do you see the retail revenue going ahead, given that Asian traffic is still not recovered fully and they have the high spenders? But then there is some, as mentioned in the release, that bids are spending more. So how do you see this overall retail spending going ahead? And then how would that impact your reletting of duty-free context, you must have started the process and how that could impact? Second question is around your strategy update. Of course, you released that you're going to disclose [ the complete date ] in November. But then what are the key themes are you going to focus on? Of course, you might not disclose the details, but is it possible for you to share the key themes, what key themes are you going to press on? Is it more traffic, is it more dividend? So what is that we could actually think of? And finally on the cost structure, cost inflation, how should we look at your cost going ahead, especially with the inflation? I'm sorry if you've already addressed some of this.
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveSorry, don't worry. I understand. Well, first of all, the revenue -- the commercial revenue per passenger growth, this time it's significantly over the 2019 level. As I said before, half are structural components and they have some other structural components. It's difficult for me to specify and to be very precise. But suffice to say that I believe that this healthy performance on a revenue per passenger basis, on a per-passenger basis, I believe will remain at least for the coming years. So I think there are drivers there that would act as tailwinds. I don't mean by that, that this is going to be the case beyond that point. What I'm saying is that I'm confident that this very healthy revenue -- commercial revenue per passenger figures will remain in place for a while. And I said before as well, subject to market conditions. Don't forget that we are living in an uncertain time in terms of whether the consumers reaction, the people's reaction, the fact that the savings may go, whether there is going to have an impact across the economy in general and indeed on the air transport industry. But subject to that, I think there are reasons to believe that this is here to stay at least to the point that I have visibility and becoming long story short. With regard to the things that we are going to discuss, obviously, please bear with me, I would be fired if I anticipate the revenue. Well, it's a joke, but definitely anything that you may expect, anything that is relevant about the future of the business will be contemplated at the strategic plan presentation. And with regard to the cost -- the cost inflation impact over the coming, let's say, years, as I said before, I don't believe we have been hit by the inflation other than in terms of the electricity. But on the other hand, 90% of our contracts are already in place, and they will be in place over the coming year, at least. So next year, 90% of the costs will be already contemplated in contracts that are already up and running. So in my view this is a sort of insurance policy. Whether or not the inflation trends, the very high inflation rates remain beyond that point and that could be an issue in 2024? I don't know. But as I said before, again, the monetary policy, the central banks are there to supposedly to impede that to happen.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Jose Arroyas of Santander.
José Arroyas
analystJust 3 from me. The first one is on the international strategy. I was wondering if Aena is happy with the footprint it has achieved now that Congonhas is in their portfolio, or if we should instead expect the company to remain active in new privatizations in the near- and medium-term? Second, it's on electricity and energy in general. A few days ago the Chairman was on record for saying that Aena is entering forward its decarbonization target by a full decade. What would he really mean by this assessment? And could this be something that Aena be considering that accelerating its solar PPA strategy. You mentioned before something about PPA contracts. Could you be more specific about this? And lastly from the -- I noticed on Page 11 of the earnings report that there have been several appeal against the tariff for 2023 by several airlines. What could this mean?
José Leo VizcaÃno
executiveSo the first thing is [indiscernible]. So with regard to the international activity, the answer is yes, we remain active. To the extent that we can find good opportunities, we will remain active in that camp, in that field. In terms of what the Chairman said is that we were aggressive or you like ambitious, about bringing forward carbon-neutrality agenda and things like that. Because he was, not to the best of my knowledge, speaking specifically about the solar panel development plan. This is something that is very specific. We have a plan for that. The carbon-neutrality agenda, obviously, goes beyond that point. It's a result of a combination of many other things. It's not only about your energy being provided or sourced by green sources. It is more than that. This is one piece. And that piece is still part of our plan and we are working on it, as we speak. Bringing that forward is sustainable, because there are administrative and bureaucratic steps to be taken that in Spain are not precisely one in the right direction, to be perfectly honest. You need to get access to capacity to develop your plans. That capacity is part of a process that is putting the market -- as part of the process that is run by an electrica, then you have to comply with the number of terms and conditions. You have to apply for a number of licenses, things like that. And this part of the process in Spain is not particularly agile. But other than that, we are very ambitious and working hard to get to where we want to get to. Then with regard to the -- we mentioned the PPA in particular, is because between now and the time where we deploy our solar plant in full, obviously we're planning to do nothing, nothing with the electricity price. Now the conditions are such that you have to take a look at that. If you can find a way of breaching that period of time and to weather the price volatility, you should do it. As I said before, it's difficult to hedge for the coming 12 months, because it is economically irrational, if I would say. But between that time and the time where we could deploy in full the panels, we may think of implementing something if the market conditions are right and the prices are meaningful and sensible. And this is what we are exploring. So this is what I meant, nothing else. We're not changing the strategy. Then with regard to these claims, yes, it did. A number of airlines appealed on the competition -- CNMC for both 2022 and 2023 tariffs. Obviously, they have the right to do that and we need to wait and see. Obviously, we have every confidence that this is not going to fly, the CNMC was pretty clear rejecting the 2022 appeals. And we are working now on the 2023 appeals. The 2023 appeals are still work-in-progress, as you may expect because the CNMC hasn't yet made a final decision on this. Okay. No more questions I can see. So thank you very much everyone for being part of the call today, and all the best. I'm sure we will see you at the November 16 event. Thank you very much.
Operator
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