Airbus SE (AIR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

October 29, 2020

Euronext Paris FR Industrials Aerospace and Defense earnings 58 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Thorsten Fischer

executive
#1

Thanks, Aurelia, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Airbus's conference call on the Nine-Month 2020 Results Release. Guillaume Faury, our CEO, and Dominik Asam, our CFO, are here to present the results and take your questions. We expect this call to run for roughly one hour, including Q&A, which will follow the initial presentation. The call is being webcast as well, and you can reach it through our homepage, where a special banner has been set up. A playback will be available on the website, though we do not offer a dedicated phone replay service. The supporting information package went out to you by email earlier this morning, and it contains the slides we will now walk you through, along with the financial statements. During this call, we will be making forward-looking statements. The package you received includes the safe harbor statement, which applies to this call too. Please take the time to read it carefully. Guillaume, over to you.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#2

Thanks, Thorsten. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the call on our results for the first nine months of 2020. We appreciate your joining us today. I truly hope all of you are doing well. Although we did see some signs of improvement in air traffic as H1 came to a close, the summer recovery turned out to be slower than we had anticipated and hoped for. The virus continues to circulate. In most parts of the world, travel restrictions are still in force. Airlines are in a tough spot. Prospects for a rebound in global air travel have worsened, which shows that this crisis is nowhere near finished. A great deal of uncertainty persists, particularly regarding how COVID-19 cases evolve around the world and how travel restrictions develop. Against this backdrop, we stay prudent and humble. Overall, our Airbus trajectory is still inside the corridor of expectations underpinning what we communicated at H1. We made further headway on containing cash and adapting the business, and those efforts remain on track. Free cash flow for the nine months, before M&A and customer financing, came in at -EUR 11.8 billion, and that figure includes payment of EUR 3.6 billion in penalties during Q1. Our EBIT adjusted stood at -EUR 0.1 billion, which includes -EUR 1 billion in charges tied to COVID-19, with -EUR 0.1 of that recognized in the third quarter. On the workforce adaptation plan, we have progressed well together with our social partners, and we recognized a EUR 1.2 billion restructuring provision in Q3, which appears in our EBIT reported.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#3

Our solid liquidity cushion is going to back us up as we keep working on what we're doing. It also gives us room to respond if fresh difficulties arise — and fresh difficulties will arise. We're safeguarding our capacity to put money into projects, to innovate, to expand, and to deliver results once more after the crisis, so that we can get back to normal operations from a position of strength when conditions improve again. We stay in constant touch with our customers, reviewing each situation individually, to reach agreements that work for both sides. That intensive cooperation shows up in the third-quarter deliveries. In fact, 145 aircraft were handed over, and as planned, production and deliveries came together during the quarter. In line with the ambition we shared with you in H1, we also halted cash burn in Q3. Indeed, free cash flow before M&A and customer financing came in at +EUR 0.6 billion for the third quarter. Even though uncertainties remain, given the measures now in place and the visibility Q3 gave us, we're comfortable enough to provide free cash flow guidance for the fourth quarter of 2020. Next slide. Before turning to the commercial aircraft environment, I want to brief you on where two topics that matter a great deal to Airbus — the WTO disputes and Brexit — recently stand.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#4

The WTO recently ruled that the European Union may apply close to $4 billion in yearly countermeasures. Airbus backs every step required to establish fair competition and to bring back fair competition, and it keeps supporting the EU's dedication to reaching a negotiated resolution of this dispute that has gone on for so long, so that lose-lose tariffs are avoided. Turning to Brexit, the talks are approaching their end. We are still worried about the danger of a no-deal outcome. We keep preparing for that scenario in order to further eliminate and reduce risks. We keep seeking additional clarity, especially regarding regulatory alignment, so that we can plan properly for what lies ahead. How the future relationship between the EU and the U.K. takes shape remains of critical importance to us. Let's turn to the commercial aircraft environment. Worldwide air traffic has kept climbing from the low point hit in April, yet the recovery has lost pace since the summer because of a growing count of COVID-19 cases and because of travel restrictions that are getting tighter. Domestic markets keep leading the recovery, especially in China, but the pandemic's resurgence has slowed progress across many other regions. International demand is still weak, and in many countries quarantine is still mandatory for travelers.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#5

From the start of the crisis, we have logged 4 cancellations. As I mentioned earlier, airlines are still in a tough spot, and the crisis has hit their balance sheets. We still anticipate that air traffic will return to its 2019 level somewhere between 2023 and 2025. Single-aisle markets will drive the recovery, while wide-body will trail behind. Given the agreements we have reached with customers, a second wave of the COVID-19 pandemic could mean current production levels are kept for a longer period and might affect the timing and pace of the future single-aisle ramp up. We are keeping our supply chain informed so that our industrial ecosystems will be properly ready to raise output step by step once the right conditions arrive. Where do we stand on orders and deliveries so far this year? Our backlog was 7,441 aircraft at the end of September. We took 370 gross orders, comprising 349 single-aisle and 21 wide-bodies. Net orders came to 300 aircraft, after 70 aircraft were cancelled, including three aircraft in the third quarter. Next page. Turning to helicopters. In the nine months 2020, we booked 143 net orders, compared with the 173 in nine months 2019. The 68 net orders booked in Q3 include six H160 following the certification by EASA last July.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#6

That was clearly a big milestone for us — one H215 for Nakanihon Air. We've also just signed a firm contract to develop an upgraded version of the NH90 for the French Special Forces. And we've booked a support contract with NASA covering its fleet of H135 helicopters. We expect the civil and parapublic market to stay soft, especially in oil and gas, given that lower oil prices persist. Then in defense and space, during the nine months of 2020, order intake came to EUR 8.2 billion, up 35% compared with last year, and that includes contract wins in telecom satellites in the U.K. and the Middle East in the third quarter. We also got a firm order for an A330 MRTT from OCCAR, placed on NATO's behalf. On FCAS, the Future Combat Air System, France and Germany and Spain recently signed an agreement bringing Spain into the demonstrator phase 1A. Negotiations among the industry partners on the phase 1B proposals are still going on. We're making good progress on that very important project. On the Eurofighter, we're waiting on the replacement of the existing Tranche 1 fleet in Germany, which is also called Quadriga. Still, the exact timing of the contract award is hard to predict.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#7

Beyond that, we see additional chances for this initiative in Germany, Spain, Switzerland and Finland. As for the Eurodrone project, talks remain in progress. Finally, we expect that European defense budgets — whether national or European — will underpin the effort to build European sovereignty, and Airbus aims to be a major player in that endeavor. Dominik, over to you now. Dominik will walk you through our financials. Dominik?

Dominik Asam

executive
#8

Thanks, Guillaume, and good morning, everyone. For the first nine months of 2020, our revenues fell to EUR 30.2 billion, a 35% decline compared with a year earlier. That drop was driven by the tough market conditions weighing on our commercial aircraft business, since we handed over roughly 40% fewer aircraft year-on-year, partly offset by more favorable foreign exchange hedge rates. Our nine-month EBIT adjusted came in at -EUR 0.1 billion. That figure mirrors reduced commercial aircraft deliveries along with certain idle costs. We have taken the steps needed to align our cost structure with the new production levels, and those benefits are starting to show as we carry out our plan. Nine-month EBIT adjusted also includes -EUR 1 billion of charges booked for impairments and write-offs brought about by COVID-19, with -EUR 0.1 billion of that in Q3. Q3 EBIT adjusted reached EUR 0.8 billion, largely a reflection of fewer commercial aircraft deliveries and reduced activity in the space business. Our nine-month EPS adjusted is -EUR 0.32 per share, based on an average of 783 million shares. Nine-month free cash flow before M&A and customer financing was -EUR 11.8 billion, including +EUR 0.6 billion in Q3. Free cash flow in Q3 reflects a higher level of deliveries than in the previous quarter, our cash containment efforts, and a strong emphasis on managing working capital.

Dominik Asam

executive
#9

Moving to the next page, which covers profitability. For the nine months of 2020, reported EBIT came in at -EUR 2.2 billion. EBIT adjustments amounted to a net -EUR 2.1 billion, and that figure included -EUR 1.2 billion recorded in Q3 tied to the group-wide restructuring plan. This amount factors in government support measures. It captures where negotiations with our social partners currently stand. As a result, it may be revisited. There was -EUR 358 million tied to A380 program costs, with -EUR 26 of that booked in Q3. Foreign exchange and balance sheet revaluation produced a negative impact of -EUR 374 million, of which -EUR 209 million fell in Q3, and other costs came to -EUR 128 million, compliance costs among them, with -EUR 11 in Q3. Reported EPS includes -EUR 712 million in financial results. That largely mirrors a net -EUR 291 million tied to Dassault Aviation, along with an RLI remeasurement of -EUR 236 million, stemming mainly from amendments to the French and Spanish contracts reflecting what the WTO regards as the appropriate interest rate and risk assessment benchmarks. It also takes in the impairment of the loan to OneWeb, which was recognized back in Q1. The tax rate on the core business stands at around 27%. On the net loss, the effective tax rate is 7%, shaped by impairments of deferred tax assets in certain tax jurisdictions and on certain investments.

Dominik Asam

executive
#10

The net loss we ended up with was -EUR 2.7 billion, and loss per share came in at -EUR 3.43. Turning now to hedging activities: during the third quarter we reworked our portfolio and rolled forward roughly $31 billion of hedges, while limiting the cash impact from hedges that would otherwise have matured in 2020. Our overall hedging portfolio denominated in US dollars is $86.8 billion, at an average hedge rate of $1.25. That move in the portfolio hedge rate to $1.25 largely mirrors the forward points tied to the longer duration of the hedge portfolio following the rollover. Across nine months 2020, we put in place $3.9 billion of forwards, including $1.4 billion during Q3, chiefly to redesignate hedges that had been disqualified from other aircraft type families. Hedges totaling $11.1 billion matured at a rate of $1.20 over the nine months, with the associated EBIT impact. During the quarter, EUR 4.1 billion of hedges matured, likewise at EUR 1.20, with the associated EBIT impact. We additionally purchased EUR 2.9 billion at EUR 1.16 in order to complete the rollover implementation begun in Q2. Beyond that, EUR 3.1 billion of hedges were disqualified across the nine months, with maturity dates falling mainly from 2022 and beyond, which produced a negative impact on financial results that was mostly recognized already in the first half of the year.

Dominik Asam

executive
#11

Let's now turn to how cash moved during the nine months of 2020. Gross cash flow from operations came in at EUR 1.6 billion, which mostly mirrors our adjusted EBIT, though before charges tied to COVID-19. The EUR 3.6 billion penalty was paid in Q1 2020. Working capital, penalties excluded, rose by EUR 8.7 billion, largely because of inventory build as well as the timing of cash receipts and payments. Within Q3, working capital carries a positive inventory effect, since we succeeded in cutting the count of aircraft we were unable to deliver to roughly 135, partly offset by lower trade liabilities. For the nine months year to date, A400M kept dragging on free cash flow before M&A, though to a lesser degree than in 2019. CapEx for the nine months stands at about -EUR 1.2 billion, which is EUR 0.3 billion below 2019. That reflects reduced spending in Q3 2020, consistent with our efforts to contain cash. Looking at the full year, we continue to anticipate CapEx of roughly EUR 1.9 billion. Reported free cash flow was -EUR 12.3 billion. Customer financing added approximately EUR 42 million, while M&A activities came to $500 million, chiefly connected to buying Bombardier's remaining stake in ACLP, with a cash outflow of $500 million, around $500 million, in the first quarter.

Dominik Asam

executive
#12

I want to provide a brief update on where our liquidity stood at the close of September. Beyond the steps we took during H1 to give our financing better long-term visibility, during July we issued a bond worth $0.7 billion, and EUR 0.2 billion of that partly pushed out the maturity of the original EUR 15 billion credit line, which as of September 30 sits at EUR 9.3 billion. All told, the adaptation work we did let us hold our liquidity position steady in Q3, and it now amounts to EUR 30.4 billion at September's end. That robust liquidity will keep helping us steer through the crisis and will put us in position to grow once conditions get better. On top of that, we brought our net debt down from EUR 0.6 billion at the close of Q2 to EUR 0.2 billion. After Q3, we made further moves to lengthen the maturities of our funding sources. During October, we refinanced with success our EUR 3 billion credit facility that matures in 2021, obtaining a fresh facility totaling EUR 6 billion, with an initial maturity of three years plus two one-year extension options. That lets us term out further the remaining special COVID EUR 9.3 billion credit line, which now sits at EUR 6.3 billion.

Dominik Asam

executive
#13

Now let me turn things over to Guillaume.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#14

Thank you, Dominik. Turning to commercial aircraft, across the nine months we handed over 341 planes to 75 customers — that's 230 fewer than a year earlier, or -40% in percentage terms. During September, 57 aircraft were delivered, which helped bring down the count of undelivered planes. Looking at the nine-month picture by aircraft family, on the A220 we delivered 18 aircraft. Last week came delivery of the first U.S.-built A220 out of Mobile, Alabama. In October, we also introduced the ACJ220 business jet. It will serve a new market segment — the extra large business jet. Entry into service is targeted for early 2023. Six aircraft have already been ordered. On the A320, 282 aircraft were delivered, of which 272 neo. This month brought a significant milestone with delivery of the MSN 10,000 to Middle East Airlines. What a milestone. On A330, nine aircraft were delivered, and in September we delivered the 1,500 A330. On the A350, 32 aircraft were delivered. Let's look at Airbus commercial financials across the nine months. Revenues mainly reflect lower deliveries, with a decrease of 230 aircraft year-on-year, as I said, of which -155 single aisle and -75 wide bodies. R&D decreased by 3.5% and by around 10%, excluding the impact from Covid-19 related charges.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#15

The adjusted EBIT is primarily a reflection of reduced deliveries and weaker cost efficiency. It also takes in the EUR 1 billion in charges tied to COVID-19. Turning to helicopters: during the first nine months of 2020 we handed over 169 helicopters, versus 209 across the same period in 2019. Revenue held broadly flat, which mirrors those smaller delivery numbers while being partly offset by stronger services. The adjusted EBIT captures a favorable mix, growth in services, and a positive input from program execution, along with reduced R&D stemming from the completion of the EASA certification efforts for both the H160 and the new five-bladed H145. During Q3, following EASA's certification in Q2, we handed the first of those five-bladed H145 aircraft to the Norwegian Air Ambulance Foundation. Moving now to defense and space. Revenue largely mirrors reduced volume in space and on the A400M, plus the effect of COVID-19 on business planning. Adjusted EBIT mostly shows the smaller space volume — particularly within the launcher business — because of the COVID-19 impact, partly balanced by cost-cutting actions in the division. On the A400M, 5 aircraft were handed over during the nine months, and Luxembourg became a new operator of that aircraft. The restructuring plan that was updated in the first half of this year is now in progress.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#16

Talks with our social partners continue to move forward. That associated provision has been booked within Q3 in EBIT reported. Moving to the guidance slide. As I mentioned, in spite of the uncertainties that remain around the measures we have put in place and the visibility we obtained during the third quarter, we feel comfortable enough to provide a free cash flow guidance, and I would like to read it out to you now. Back in March, the company withdrew its full year 2020 guidance. With COVID-19 still affecting the business and the risks that go with it, we are issuing no new guidance on commercial aircraft deliveries or on EBIT. Based on its Q4 2020 guidance for free cash flow before M&A customer financing, the company assumes there will be no further disruptions to the world economy, to air traffic, to Airbus internal operations, and to its ability to deliver products and services. On that basis, the company is targeting at least break-even free cash flow before M&A customer financing during the fourth quarter of 2020. So what are our key priorities? Well, since our H1 disclosure they have not fundamentally changed. The traffic outlook has worsened. In the current market environment, we believe the measures taken are the right response to protect our strong competitive position throughout the crisis and when the market recovers.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#17

We're constantly testing our measures to ensure they mirror the current environment. So we concentrate on executing our plan and making solid progress on our priorities. As was said earlier, we'll keep delivering the aircraft in line with the agreements we've reached with our customers. We'll also stay strongly focused on cash containment and, naturally, on hitting our free cash flow before M&A customer financing guidance in the fourth quarter. Fully implementing our adaptation plan is a key milestone for addressing our long-term cost structure and for establishing our new financial balance in a sustainable way. We've also kept a strong liquidity position, as Dominik has explained, which will support us along the recovery path. It matters a great deal to us: we will invest in decarbonized technologies, and we aim to develop the first climate neutral zero-emission passenger aircraft. We're ready to take your questions.

Thorsten Fischer

executive
#18

We're moving into the Q&A portion now. When you ask a question, please say who you are and which company you're with. Kindly keep it to 2 questions per turn, and that counts sub-questions as well. And as always, please do speak plainly and at a measured pace so that everyone on the call, ourselves very much included, can follow what you're asking. Aurelia, would you go ahead and walk the participants through how the process works.

Operator

operator
#19

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we are now starting the question-and-answer portion. Anybody who would like to pose a question can press zero and one on their touchtone phone. Should you want to take yourself out of the question queue, press zero and two. We ask that participants use only handsets when asking a question. Anyone with a question may press zero and one at this time. Our first question comes from Ben Heelan at Bank of America. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Benjamin Heelan

analyst
#20

Yes. Good morning, Guillaume, Dominik, and Thorsten. Thanks for taking my question, and I hope all of you are doing well. I wanted to talk about and ask you regarding the news reports we saw last week that you had requested the supply chain to protect it to rate 47 for the second half of 2021. Could you help us understand a little what you actually mean by protect? Are you asking the supply chain to be able to deliver to you at a rate of 47, but the actual rate might be lower by the time you get to the second half of 2021? I'm thinking here, if I'm a supplier, I'm being asked to essentially invest for a high teen increase in production in eight months time. I'm looking at the news, COVID cases are increasing exponentially. What is the risk that I start putting my capital to work, investing for that higher level of production, and it just doesn't materialize? Thank you.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#21

Hi, Ben. Yes, we’re doing well, I believe, and I hope you’re doing well too. It’s been a while. Well, that’s a significant question, so perhaps I should take a little time on it. We continue to update the production planning very regularly, and an active supply plan is always shared with our suppliers. That was true in previous years, right before the pandemic struck the industry. At the start, at the onset of the crisis, we revised that production supply plan by ramping down and adjusting to rate 40 for the single aisle for the foreseeable future. We have enhanced our supply plan. Before summer, we were at rate 40 through the end of the first quarter of 2021, with a modest but progressive ramp-up beginning at the start of Q2. That was the active, valid supply plan for all our suppliers. Before summer, or for the one currently in place—the one now in place, by the way—it relies on rate 40 through the end of the first half of 2021, with ramp-up starting at the beginning of Q3 2021 from rate 40 to rate 47 for the second half of 2021.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#22

Of course, all of this is supported by our backlog and by the contracts we hold with customers—it isn’t speculative; it’s robust. We also have to consider the situation. It’s highly dynamic, and we continue working with customers to adapt to their circumstances, to reach agreements that reflect Airbus’s ability and our customers’ ability to navigate this crisis, and it may still change. What we believe is, first, that rate 40 is robust. The way we’re managing at the moment is by shifting that point—the ramp-up point—from rate 40 to a higher rate. Naturally, with the deterioration in the traffic outlook, it has shifted to the right, so from the beginning of Q2 to the beginning of Q3. This is robust. It isn’t speculation. It genuinely reflects today’s situation as well as we can see it, and we believe we owe our suppliers transparency and visibility regarding how it should unfold. It’s also very important that the entire supply chain is prepared for when the recovery arrives, because that is the weakest link that would determine the speed of recovery. We ensure everyone is informed, everyone is aligned, and everyone has transparency on the situation.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#23

As you've seen, moving from the start of Q2 to the start of Q3 2021 for when the ramp-up begins isn't a huge shift, but it does mirror what I've mentioned previously — namely, that we're facing a lower-for-longer situation regarding the aviation downturn. At this point, we genuinely expect our suppliers to be prepared for that ramp-up. They must be committed to it. That's what we're asking of them. It's nine months away from now, so there's ample time to keep reviewing and updating. What we believe we owe the supply chain is sufficient anticipation so that, in the near term, they aren't caught off guard or forced into actions they haven't prepared for. We want them to have time to get ready, and that's what we're striving to do as best we can in a highly volatile environment with many things occurring that are unpredicted. That's how we attempt to handle it. Sorry, my response is really long, but I can see that many questions revolve around that one.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#24

This isn't some fresh ask that we've handed to the supply chain. What it is, is refreshing the supply plan that the supply chain keeps running at all times.

Benjamin Heelan

analyst
#25

Alright, that's excellent. Thanks for the added detail.

Operator

operator
#26

We’ll now take the next question, and it comes from Celine Fornaro at UBS. Your line is open at this point. Please go ahead, ma'am.

Céline Fornaro

analyst
#27

Morning, everyone, and thanks for taking my question. If I may, I'd like to ask two questions. First, on the planes in inventory: Dominik, you mentioned that you stood at 135 at the close of Q3 versus 145 at H1. Could you share your thinking on the assumptions behind Q4 and the pace for 2021, since as you said earlier, you aim to bring down that larger number of planes in inventory by the end of 2021 — and has that also slipped to the right, given the softness in the market recently? And what that implies for free cash flow in 2021. Second, any thoughts on the footprint? You've now moved your restructuring discussions forward. You've booked a charge, and you've stated that 13,000 full-time employees will be cut at Airbus. Any thoughts on reducing footprint? We've heard Boeing, Raytheon, RTX talk about 20, 30% reduction potentially. How would you view that from an office reduction standpoint? Thank you.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#28

Dominik, would you like to handle that question?

Dominik Asam

executive
#29

Okay, perhaps I'll begin with the question about communicating vessels — deliveries, reducing the finished goods inventory, and free cash flow. Yes, during the nine months we have improved, and naturally we intend to keep gradually drawing down those inventories as time goes on. The bigger portion of it is single-aisle, and we would also like to see additional progress, particularly on the single-aisle, in 2021. I believe it is too early at this point to get into specifics, since that would more or less amount to giving guidance on deliveries, considering that on the rate side we have been fairly explicit about where we intend to be with rates, and the gap is, naturally, the movement in the finished goods inventory. Regarding free cash flow, naturally there are numerous puts and takes. I don't wish to comment on 2021 in terms of numbers at this stage, but there are puts and takes. If you examine the cash flow statement for the nine months, you can see that inventories have, naturally, accounted for the lion's share of cash absorbed. The other negative item was the decrease in trade payables resulting from lower supplies from our suppliers. The financing, so to speak — the payment terms from our suppliers — while staying constant in terms of days, declines in volume.

Dominik Asam

executive
#30

We also had good news regarding contract assets and liabilities, where we saw a couple of billion. When you look at the balance sheet change, you'll notice it's positive, and that will reverse at some point because we've also discussed arrangements with customers such as advanced PDPs, promissory notes, and these kinds of instruments. That's precisely why we've been willing to provide guidance on free cash flow, since we believe we have certain rephased customer commitments for Q4. We're fully aware of all the imponderabilities and uncertainties surrounding delivery, because some aircraft will arrive very late in the year and could slip into the new year. On the cash side, we believe there's more leverage we can pull to secure at least that free cash flow before M&A and customer financing of break even for Q4. I'm sorry to be so vague, but being more detailed right now would truly be premature given the high degree of uncertainties we face in the market.

Céline Fornaro

analyst
#31

Thanks, Dominik.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#32

Thanks, Celine. I hope you’re doing well.

Céline Fornaro

analyst
#33

And what about the site?

Dominik Asam

executive
#34

Regarding site, on the prior call we mentioned that our expectation was for site to reach a positive adjusted EBITDA run rate as we exited the fourth quarter. We still anticipate that happening, though it will likely come toward the end of the quarter instead of right at the start. So site remains on track to hit positive adjusted EBITDA on a run-rate basis as we close out Q4.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#35

So, we’re in the middle of an adaptation plan, and we’re negotiating that plan with our social partners. Our industrial setup is pretty much the same as it was 10 years ago, when production levels were similar to what we’re seeing in 2020. We believe there will be a ramp-up again at some later point. I’m not saying we aren’t looking at optimization and things we’d have done regardless. We are not undertaking a massive initiative that adds complexity on top of the complexity we already see today through major site closures. That’s not how we entered the crisis. There’s nothing major I can share beyond this: we are working very strictly on the cost side of the equation, and our so-called cash containment plan is delivering what we expected. We are within the corridor of expectation we set for ourselves, given the measures we’ve decided so far and that have been shared.

Céline Fornaro

analyst
#36

Thanks, Guillaume.

Operator

operator
#37

Our next question comes from Charles Armitage at Citi. Your line is open now. Go ahead, please.

Charles Armitage

analyst
#38

Morning, everyone — hope you’re doing well. Just a couple of quick things. First, my apologies: the line dropped at a key point while you were answering Ben’s question. The rate increase you mentioned — does that apply when it goes into the FAL, or when it comes out of the FAL? That’s my first question. And on Q3, which you brought up: is that ramping up, or is it delivery — output or input, I suppose.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#39

Yes. It's a technical one, but a fair one. At Airbus, when we discuss production rates, we refer to what we call station 40. That's a bit technical. What exactly is station 40 at Airbus? It's the point where the wings and several other components get fitted onto the fuselage. That serves as a reference point. What we provide to the supply chain reflects the planned rise in production rates, along with timing that matches when goods reach Airbus. That's the reason you can't link production rates and deliveries directly during periods when we're climbing or falling sharply. In today's situation, where we're holding steady at rate 40, as we've mentioned, our aim is to converge delivery and production into a steady flow. When ramping up occurs, the effect on deliveries of aircraft passing through station 40 shows up, clearly, a couple of months afterward. Suppliers must deliver parts somewhat earlier, since we need those parts for the production flow and for station 40, and for equipment installation that happens after station 40.

Charles Armitage

analyst
#40

Great, that's clear. For my second question, I want to ask about Pre-Delivery Payments. Basically, have you made any changes, or has the pattern shifted in terms of when those Pre-Delivery Payments get made? In other words, are customers asking you for relief from those Pre-Delivery Payments, or are you giving any to perhaps more favored customers, on the understanding that they'll still take the planes?

Dominik Asam

executive
#41

Naturally, this varies by customer, but speaking in general and very broadly, the timing of Pre-Delivery Payments always depends on when delivery is scheduled. The only thing that alters them is a shift in the delivery date — in that case they would naturally track it — but phasing itself isn't really the driver. It's also the case, as I said, and worth noting, that during the nine months we gained from certain PDPs paid on aircraft slated for later delivery. Looking at the balance sheet in our disclosure, you'll see a positive impact of roughly EUR 2+ billion stemming from all the contract asset and liability items. That broadly mirrors this effect. Those EUR 2+ billion, which appear in the cash flow statement, are really not sustainable going forward. You shouldn't anticipate that continuing. To some extent they will reverse, since we'll deliver certain aircraft without POD because that POD has already been paid.

Charles Armitage

analyst
#42

That's great. Thank you very much, truly.

Operator

operator
#43

All right. The next question comes from Tristan Sanson at Exane. Your line is now open, so please go ahead.

Tristan Sanson

analyst
#44

Yes. Morning, gentlemen. Thank you for taking my questions. The first concerns cash, and the second concerns margin. First, on free cash flow: I'd like to revisit something you said recently, Dominik, about the possibility of achieving at least break-even free cash flow in 2021. I realize you have no formal guidance on essentially anything for that year. Could you help us grasp which key moving parts sit beneath those assumptions in a free cash flow bridge? Second, regarding margin for the group after restructuring: you have an adaptation plan targeting completion by the end of summer 2021, if my memory serves. I believe you mentioned previously that you'll likely be slightly oversized relative to rate 40, since you plan to ramp production afterward. Could you hint at what things would look like when you return to a higher level of production rates under that new cost structure? What would be a reasonable margin ambition for commercial aircraft? Thank you.

Dominik Asam

executive
#45

Alright. It's evident that, because in the September quarter we managed to be marginally positive on free cash flow before M&A and customer financing, we aim to repeat that and at minimum reach break-even in Q4. Once production and deliveries are balanced, we want to keep up that record, and beyond that, make an effort to reduce some of those inventories. We already talked about this on the call. That ought to give us some backing to maintain that record of no longer burning cash. Ensuring we get through the crisis without damaging our balance sheet excessively is a clear goal for us. Now, when you consider the pluses and minuses, inventories are of course a major one. How far can we go in selling aircraft that have already been built? I indicated earlier that we have somewhat more confidence that this may be feasible in 2021 on the single aisle. On the wide bodies, I believe it will remain a very tough situation given the prolonged crisis there. I noted a bit of an overhang regarding the PDP/POD discussion, with contract assets having made a positive contribution in 2020 during the first nine months.

Dominik Asam

executive
#46

Perhaps undoing that is something we need to address. There's still some A400M cash outflow remaining. Honestly, it hasn't shifted from the roughly $500 million guidance we provided last year. On the A220, the structural gap between earnings and cash persists, since we're essentially shielding the EBIT through loss-making contract provisions. Cash will keep going out as we ramp up the A220. Then there's the restructuring provision we booked, and most of those restructuring costs will be disbursed next year. There are also some meaningful headwinds. I should note that the restructuring cash outflow is actually larger than the EUR 1.2 billion provision taken across the whole program, because preexisting accruals for vacation and retirement become payable when employees depart the company. Lots of puts and takes that are genuinely difficult to forecast. That work is still underway, so please be patient with us until February for more granular detail. Broadly speaking, we as a management team are intensely focused on maintaining that record of not burning cash.

Tristan Sanson

analyst
#47

That's really useful. And what about margin?

Guillaume Faury

executive
#48

Regarding the margin.

Dominik Asam

executive
#49

Regarding margin, the thing we always point to is that, yes, naturally, we had a particular margin in 2019 on, it was 863 deliveries. The way we now think about planning is that we must find a way to return to that margin level once we are back at those rates. There is so much volatility, so predicting is tough, but this is the sort of anchor point for thinking about where we want to drive towards.

Tristan Sanson

analyst
#50

To be clear, we're only discussing the A220 here.

Dominik Asam

executive
#51

Regarding the 863 total deliveries, that's a fair question. In that equation, the impact will be mixed. Naturally, the restructuring gives us a tailwind that benefits margin, but there will also be some challenges: more A220s in the mix is negative, more A320s in the mix is positive, and lower wide body. How all of these will play out, we need to see. There's still a bit of a headwind coming from Forex in the coming years. As you know, our hedge ratios are quite high by now after the rephasing of the hedge portfolio. Very roughly, we think there's a path to that kind of recovery in margin if and when, well, when I hope to say, the 863 will be reached again.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#52

Thanks, Dominik.

Tristan Sanson

analyst
#53

I really appreciate it.

Operator

operator
#54

Our following questioner is Olivier Brochet with Credit Suisse. Your line is open now — please go ahead.

Olivier Brochet

analyst
#55

Yes, good morning, Guillaume, and good morning, Dominik. I have two questions, if I may. The first: several airlines, along with some lessors, have discussed how they are now shifting toward planning for what they'll need down the road. Given how volatile things clearly are with restrictions, lockdowns and so on, have you noticed any change, relatively speaking, versus the beginning of the year in behavior, in requests, in PDP payments, and so forth? The second concerns the undelivered aircraft. Of those 135, how many were already sitting on your balance sheet as of the end of Q2, since that could affect future profit release?

Guillaume Faury

executive
#56

Let me address the airline question, and Dominik, the one about inventories. You mentioned compared with the start of the year — versus how things stood at the start of the year, everything has shifted. I assume you mean versus how things looked when the crisis began. We went through various stages: first, trying to grasp the new reality, then figuring out ways to adapt, and the circumstances and realities differ enormously. There's huge variation between, say, a low-cost carrier serving a single regional market where domestic flights have kept operating, and a flag carrier that has no domestic market and has lost essentially its entire market, with international flights gone for a long stretch. Each faces a very different set of conditions, which is why we've done the work — a very thorough effort, airline by airline, aircraft by aircraft. Has that changed lately? Yes, since I'd say most airlines during the past quarter have also come to recognize this lower-for-longer pattern. That's what comes through in the conversations we're having now. It doesn't really alter the belief that a recovery will come after the pandemic, that this isn't a structural shift, but that the near term is extremely difficult.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#57

The long-term implications are going to be significant. Their perspectives on what those long-term implications mean for them differ. Once again, it hinges heavily on what kind of market they operate in. Answering your question is tough, since I believe there are as many answers as there are airlines. Even for one particular airline, things shift over time as they fine-tune their plans. Now, Dominik, do you want to take any part of the question?

Dominik Asam

executive
#58

On the numbers side, like we mentioned, the figure moved from 145 down to 135. I believe your question was partly whether these are the identical aircraft. Are we talking about the start of the quarter or its close? Well, naturally they're in motion, but how I'd put it is that the bulk of these planes aren't whitetails. To be clear, these are aircraft for which we hold a contract that has by now been rephased and renegotiated with the customer, and where delivery could just be pushed back by a year or two. That's the usual situation behind these aircraft. There's a very low double-digit count of whitetails that we must deal with, and that's by far the minority. That should help give you a sense of the quality of this backlog or inventory.

Olivier Brochet

analyst
#59

Thanks.

Operator

operator
#60

Jeremy Bragg from Redburn has the next question. Your line is open now. Go ahead, please.

Jeremy Bragg

analyst
#61

Good morning. I have two questions, if I may. The first concerns restructuring. We have a few specifics about the restructuring charge. Could you perhaps put a figure on what the benefits are and how they stack up against what you're receiving from the government right now? My second question is about wide body. Boeing, for instance, was repeatedly cautious yesterday on international traffic, and so are you, and Boeing hinted at another rate cut on the 787. I'd like to know how you feel about A350 and A330 rates, whether there's a danger of a further cut, and whether you feel the A330 is a vital element of your product lineup, something you simply have to have. Thank you.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#62

All right. Thank you for those questions. Regarding the restructuring, we're pleased with where things stand at the moment, and that's probably for two main reasons. The first is that we've made solid headway in talks with our social partners — and I mean genuine negotiation, in the sense of constructively identifying the best ways to handle the situation. That has really helped the execution of this plan move forward well. The second is that we're also pleased with the solutions worked out with governments, which aim to strike a sound balance between letting people go and retaining some of the key skills we'll need for the ramp-up, with most of this financed through governmental support. That means we can hold on to these key skills and key people. It's backed by governmental money. They won't end up unemployed, and they'll still be current when the market recovers and when we begin to ramp up again. That's a good achievement, and we're very happy to have it and to report it. That perhaps answers your question about the benefits of the restructuring. We are now negotiating at national level.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#63

We've crossed the European milestone, and that is genuinely looking good. Now, on the question about wide bodies — whether it's the single aisle or the wide bodies — we took very strong measures very early in the pandemic. You'll recall we adjusted our rates very straightforwardly from week one, almost very early in April. We've monitored and updated on a very regular basis. Earlier on the call I commented on what we've done with the single aisle and the potential ramp-up in 2021. On the wide body, we've already made adjustments. We began by adjusting from almost 10 on the A350 down to six, and then we further adjusted to five. We're around five. Depending on the month, around five, let's say. We don't see reasons today to change that, but we'll keep monitoring and updating. We think we're quite appropriately geared with this five-ish. On the A330 we're at a rate 2. It's small, but it's sustainable for the program. We've converged as well, the deliveries and the production on the A330 in the last month, so it's working well with the A330.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#64

Plus, we have backing from certain military variants of the A330 in the backlog. That continues to be strong and reliable. As was reported, we actually secured a new order on that front. The A330 is a key component of the puzzle. Having that product within the portfolio makes us quite pleased. We see the potential for it to be an excellent aircraft for emerging from the pandemic, given that it is a highly cost-efficient plane. We believe enormous pressure will exist around competitiveness and cost once we move beyond the pandemic and when airlines must substitute all the aircraft that will have been retired as a result of the pandemic. They will be seeking solutions that are extremely cost-efficient, and we think the A330, within the competitive landscape, is a very strong one.

Jeremy Bragg

analyst
#65

That's quite clear. Thank you so much.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#66

Thanks.

Operator

operator
#67

Robert Stallard from Vertical Research has the next question. Your line is open now. Go ahead, sir.

Robert Stallard

analyst
#68

Thank you very much, and good morning, everyone.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#69

Good morning.

Robert Stallard

analyst
#70

I have a couple of questions. First, building on what Ben asked before about getting ready for rate 47 during the back half of next year: are you assisting suppliers with financing any long-lead purchases—things such as nickel alloy or titanium—or even with staffing, so they're prepared for that? Second, regarding the China market, there's clearly been a solid rebound domestically. Are Chinese airlines going back to the fleet plans they had before the pandemic? Thank you.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#71

Alright. The increase from rate 40 to rate 47 begins in Q3 2021. That sits well beyond what we refer to as the firm horizon with suppliers. No, we aren't funding their share. Incidentally, via the order, delivery, and payment-term mechanism, we've given suppliers substantial support over the past month as we built up these inventories, and we've paid the suppliers as we were committed to pay. In fact, the billions sitting in inventories represent money that has been going to the suppliers, while we weren't getting money from the airlines. They've received massive support over the past month simply by applying the payment condition and taking delivery of the goods we had ordered. Chinese Airlines — well, I'd say it's premature to answer that question. They're clearly working on, or reworking, their plans. You know that this is a very central way of dealing with the situation in China. At the beginning of last week, there was the meeting of the party committee for the fifth year of the 19th plan. We don't have the outcome of that plan. Obviously, China continues to view aviation growth as a central piece of their development.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#72

That's what we've stated very clearly and very recently as part of that preparation. On domestic flights, they're back to 100%. We see continued investment in new runways at their major airports. They still view aviation development as a central piece of China's growth and development.

Robert Stallard

analyst
#73

That's great. Thanks a lot.

Thorsten Fischer

executive
#74

That brings our conference call to an end for today. Should anything else come up, just send an email to Gustav, Philippe, or me, and we'll respond as quickly as we can. Thanks very much, and I hope to talk with you again before long.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#75

Appreciate everyone’s questions — please take care out there.

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