Airbus SE (AIR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 4, 2022

Euronext Paris FR Industrials Aerospace and Defense earnings 58 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good day, everyone, and thanks for joining us. This is Clotilde, your operator for today's Airbus Q1 2022 results release conference call. I'd like to let you know that during the presentation, everyone will be in listen-only mode, and a question-and-answer session will follow. This call is being recorded. Once the presentation wraps up, you'll have a chance to ask a question. At this point, I'll hand the conference over to your hosts, Guillaume Faury, Dominik Asam, and Hélène Le Gorgeu. Please go ahead.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#2

Thanks, and good evening, everyone. Appreciate you joining our Q1 2022 results call today. I'm here in Amsterdam with Dominik and Hélène to take you through the Q1 results. First, as I mentioned on the media call, let me say again that everyone at Airbus holds in their thoughts all those affected by the humanitarian crisis set off by the attack on Ukraine — with huge loss of life and millions forced to flee their homes. At Airbus, saving our people and our operations has been, as always, and continues to be, our top priority. In addition, in line with international sanctions, we halted deliveries and support services to Russian customers and operators, along with supplying spare parts to the country. Across all our activities in every division, we are applying the sanctions in place and will keep applying them. The ongoing military conflict is a reminder to our societies that peace, democracy, and freedom can never be taken for granted — they must be earned and must be defended. We expect to encounter added complexity as 2022 moves along, not only because of geopolitical tensions, but also from growing effects on global supply and logistics, and especially given the new COVID wave in China.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#3

With that said, during Q1 we managed to hand over 142 aircraft. Apologies. That's a rise of +14% compared with a year earlier. Ramping up commercial aircraft output continues amid this challenging environment. After reviewing demand from customers worldwide and gauging how prepared the industrial ecosystem is, we are currently collaborating with our industry partners to lift A320 family production rates even higher, reaching 75 aircraft a month in 2025. Now, returning to the first quarter. Our strong financial results gained from competitiveness efforts and from the cost containment put in place during the COVID-19 crisis, which we will gradually wind down now that activity has resumed. EBIT adjusted came in at EUR 1.3 billion, while free cash flow before M&A and customer financing reached EUR 4.2 billion. Our robust Q1 EBIT adjusted also contains a non-recurring positive item of EUR 4.4 billion tied to retirement obligations, partly offset by a EUR 4.2 billion negative effect stemming from international sanctions against Russia. On today's call, Dominik and I will bring you up to date on how the business environment, more complex than anticipated, is affecting us. Regarding the fallout from international sanctions, our direct exposure to Russian customers is fairly limited throughout our product portfolio.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#4

Looking at supply, our operations are safeguarded for both the near and medium term. That affords us time to lock in alternative solutions wherever necessary. Even so, with the environment growing more complex — particularly the deteriorating COVID situation in China — we'll keep watching the risks we face very closely, above all supply and labor, plus the inflationary pressures tied to them. Thanks to our strong Q1 results in Q1, our guidance for 2022 stays as it was, even if our overall risk profile for the rest of the year has grown more difficult. Now let's turn to our commercial environment. As I mentioned, we're dealing with a complex environment that is weighing on the global economic recovery, and the picture for global air traffic evolution looks mixed. In China, domestic air travel has worsened sharply of late and currently sits at roughly 20%-30% of its pre-COVID level in flight numbers. The country's worsening COVID situation is a worry. Near term, this could begin to affect the capacity of some of our airline customers to take delivery of certain aircraft. On top of that, the geopolitical crisis is piling on more complexity. Although airspace restrictions in Russia, Belarus and Ukraine itself touch only a small portion of global traffic, international flights being rerouted, together with rising fuel prices, have turned into a headwind for a number of our airline customers.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#5

Conversely, demand for air travel is rebounding vigorously, including across every nation that has removed travel restrictions. That supports solid underlying appetite for flying. Although the worldwide picture is mixed for the upcoming quarters. Our expectation remains that commercial air traffic will return to pre-COVID levels sometime between 2023 and 2025, with domestic and regional markets in the lead. That outlook is unchanged despite the complications. Allow me to recap our orders and backlog for Q1. We logged 253 gross orders, comprising 243 single-aisle and 10 wide-body aircraft, which underscores our robust commercial momentum. Of those 10 wide-body orders, 7 were for the A350 freighter we recently launched. Cancellations came to 170, and those had mostly been foreseen and were already reflected in our backlog valuation as of the end of the year 2021. Consequently, net orders came out positive at 83 aircraft, and our backlog in units stood at 7,023 aircraft as of the end of March 2022, including 5,821 A320 family aircraft. Turning to Russia, our backlog contains 13 A350 orders for Aeroflot. On helicopters, during the first quarter we booked 56 net orders versus 40 in Q1 last year, nicely distributed across programs.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#6

OCCAR also placed an order with us for the Tiger Mark III program — 42 helicopters destined for France and 18 for Spain. Beyond that, we keep witnessing encouraging momentum across campaigns, chiefly in our home countries. And lastly, within Defense and Space, order intake during Q1 reached EUR 3.2 billion, which works out to a book-to-bill of roughly 1.3. That figure takes in the Eurodrone global contract signed in February, spanning development plus manufacturing of 20 systems along with five years of initial in-service support for Germany, France, Italy, and Spain. With that signature, development gets underway on one of Europe's most ambitious defence programs, which from the outset will be designed and developed entirely around our DDMS. Eurodrone — the product of collaborative efforts among industry, OCCAR, and the nations — will bolster Europe's strategic autonomy and sovereignty through this program. Other orders booked during the quarter are tied mainly to military aircraft. Regarding FCAS, the Future Combat Air System, our commitment to the program is full, and its importance is sharply clear in times of crisis. We keep working toward launching phase IB later this year, the next milestone on the path to success for this crucial European defence program.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#7

Regarding the Space business, we are keeping a close watch on how things stand across every program we run jointly with the Russian State Space Agency, working alongside our partners, customers, and suppliers. I should remind everyone that access to the Soyuz launchers is no longer available to us. Meanwhile, preparations for the 2022 Ariane 5 and Vega C launches continue to move forward in line with the plan and the schedule. Speaking of space, I'd like to express thanks to the teams for the landmark agreement that Arianespace and Amazon signed in April covering 18 Ariane 6 launches across a three-year span, which shows just how much potential this platform holds. Given the increase in defence spending and the powerful push for European strategic autonomy, we are prepared to assist European governments on that front. At this point, Dominik will walk you through our financials. Dominik.

Dominik Asam

executive
#8

Thanks, Guillaume, and greetings to all of you as well from my end. Revenue for Q1 2022 rose to EUR 12.0 billion, a 15% gain versus the prior year, driven chiefly by a larger count of commercial aircraft deliveries along with a favorable mix. Q1 EBIT adjusted climbed to EUR 1.3 billion, compared with EUR 4.7 billion in Q1 2021. That overall EUR 0.6 billion improvement contains a non-recurring positive item of EUR 0.4 billion tied to remeasuring past service costs within our retirement obligation. Conversely, a figure of -EUR 0.2 billion was booked in Q1 stemming from the effect of international sanctions imposed on Russia. It likewise captures our competitiveness work and the benefit of cost containment measures rolled out across the COVID-19 crisis. Q1 EPS adjusted came in at EUR 1.14 per share, calculated on an average of 786 million shares. Free cash flow for Q1, before M&A and customer financing, amounted to EUR 0.2 billion, mirroring the delivery level, competitiveness, and cost containment impact, partly offset by higher working capital, chiefly from growth in inventory. Moving to the following slide on profitability in greater depth: Q1 2022 EBIT reported was EUR 1.4 billion. EBIT adjustments came to a net positive of EUR 0.2 billion, comprising a EUR 190 million positive effect from foreign exchange mismatch and balance sheet revaluation, -EUR 11 million associated with the A380 program, and -EUR 13 million in other costs, compliance costs included.

Dominik Asam

executive
#9

The earnings per share figure we reported incorporates a positive EUR 166 million in financial results. That's largely driven by the favorable net effect of revaluing some equity investments, partly offset by revaluation of financial instruments, plus net interest results of -EUR 76 million. On the core business, the tax rate sits at roughly 27%. Net income carries an effective tax rate of 25%, which takes in the tax impact from revaluing certain equity investments, partly offset by impairment of deferred tax assets. Net income comes out at EUR 1.2 billion, and reported earnings per share is EUR 1.55. Overall, fiscal year 2022 got off to a really strong start. Turning to hedging, in Q1 2022, $4.4 billion of hedges matured, with the associated EBIT impact at a rate of 1.21, compared with 1.16 in Q1 2021. In the quarter, we put in place $2.5 billion of rollovers, mostly to fine-tune the intra-year phasing of our hedges for 2022. We also executed $3.5 billion of forwards at a rate of 1.18, primarily for 2024 and 2025. Hedges totaling $4.3 billion were disqualified to reflect the effect of international sanctions against Russia, which had a negative impact on financial results.

Dominik Asam

executive
#10

So because of that, our overall hedging portfolio denominated in U.S. dollars is now at $87.1 billion, and the average hedge rate is 1.25, which is the same as December 2021. Now let's turn to how our cash moved in Q1 2022. Gross cash from operations came in at EUR 1.2 billion, and that mostly mirrors our adjusted EBIT along with positive phasing of tax payments. The working capital increase of EUR 4.7 billion is largely a reflection of the inventory build supporting the A320 family ramp up, partly offset by favorable timing of cash receipts and payments. Year-to-date, the A400M kept dragging on our free cash flow before M&A and customer financing. CapEx in Q1 2022 was roughly -EUR 4.3 billion, compared with EUR 4.5 billion in Q1 2021. Keep in mind that the prior year's quarter included the acquisition of real estate assets in the U.K. For 2022, we expect CapEx of about -EUR 2.4 billion. Free cash flow reported came to EUR 4.2 billion. M&A activities were -EUR 6 million, while customer financing was an outflow of -EUR 46 million. The aircraft financing environment is still solid, with enough liquidity in financial markets for our products. Looking ahead, a further cash in as in recent years will not be sustainable, since we anticipate some usage of cash in this and the coming years.

Dominik Asam

executive
#11

As of the end of March, our net cash position holds steady at EUR 7.7 billion, while liquidity remains solid, coming in at EUR 28.8 billion. During Q1 2022, both Moody's and S&P reaffirmed Airbus' credit ratings — A2 and A-, respectively — and lifted the negative outlook, a reflection of how strongly we are performing financially and operationally. Looking ahead, we will keep taking an active approach to managing liquidity, with the goal of preserving our strong credit ratings. Now, over to Guillaume.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#12

Thank you, Dominik. That's very clear. Moving on now to Commercial Aircraft. During Q1, we handed over 142 aircraft to 48 customers. Our net year-to-date delivery figure of 140 mirrors a decrease of two aircraft that had previously been booked as sold in December 2021, since the transfer could not take place because of the international sanctions that were imposed. Now, looking at how Q1 2022 played out across the aircraft families: for the A220, 11 aircraft were delivered. We're still ramping up and remain on track to reach rate 14, which is what we had envisioned for the middle of the decade. On the A320, we delivered 109 aircraft, 58 of them A321 — so more than 50%, as you can work out for yourself. Our production is advancing toward rate 65 by the summer of 2023, in an environment that is complex. As I said earlier, we are currently collaborating with our suppliers and partners so that a monthly production rate of 75 can be achieved in 2025. Airbus will reach that higher production rate by adding capacity at our existing industrial sites and expanding the industrial footprint in Mobile in the U.S. with FAL, while also investing to make sure every assembly site is A321 capable. Regarding the A321XLR, we're continuing to push toward a first flight by the end of Q2 2022.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#13

Originally scheduled for the close of next year, unfortunately, service entry is now anticipated in early 2024. As I mentioned on the prior call, we are working diligently alongside our customers to try to lessen the effect of that circumstance. On the widebody side, we handed over 22 aircraft, comprising 16 A350s and six A330s. As was announced earlier, our goal is to raise the A330 monthly build rate to nearly three by the close of 2022. Regarding the A350, we still anticipate lifting the monthly output rate to roughly six aircraft in early 2023. In March, I'm very pleased to report that the inaugural A380 flight powered by 100% sustainable aviation fuel took place. This makes it the third Airbus aircraft type to fly with at least one engine running on 100% SAF, following an Airbus A350 in March of last year. That was last year, in March 2021, and an A319neo in October of last year as well. Now let's turn to Airbus commercial financials for Q1. The financials reflect the net delivery of the 140 aircraft. The 142 I referenced earlier, again, was trimmed by the two deliveries under, let's call it international sanctions. Revenues rose by 17% year-on-year, mainly reflecting the greater number of deliveries as well as a favorable mix.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#14

Keep in mind my earlier comments about wide-body deliveries. The rise in EBIT adjusted also shows the competitiveness work and our cost-containment efforts. It also takes in the non-recurring favorable effect from retirement obligations that Dominik described, partly offset by the hit from international sanctions. Turning to helicopters, we handed over 39 units in Q1, matching Q1 of 2021. Revenues rose year-on-year, chiefly driven by growth in services and a favorable program mix. EBIT adjusted likewise reflects non-recurring items, among them the positive retirement-obligation effect mentioned above. That completes our Q1 2022 review with Defence and Space. Revenues were up year-on-year, mainly powered by the military aircraft business and by the Eurodrone contract signed in February. EBIT adjusted also captures the retirement-obligation impact, again partly offset by the effects of international sanctions on the space business. On the A400M, one aircraft was delivered in Q1 — the last of 10 ordered by the Turkish Air Force. We are carrying on with development work toward the revised capability roadmap. Retrofit work is advancing in close coordination with the customers. Risks persist around qualification of technical capabilities and the related costs, as well as operational reliability — particularly concerning power plants, cost reductions, and securing export orders on time under the revised baseline.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#15

Turning now to guidance. I want to walk you back through what we have said. Its 2022 guidance is built on the assumption that there are no additional disruptions affecting the global economy, air traffic, the company's own operations, or its capacity to deliver products and services. That 2022 guidance is stated before M&A, and on that basis the company is targeting roughly 720 commercial aircraft deliveries in 2022, EUR 5.5 billion of EBIT adjusted, and EUR 3.5 billion of free cash flow before M&A and customer financing. This outlook captures the growth path we expect and the investments we are making to get ready for our future. Following a solid start in Q1, as we have told you, we are seeing a less favorable evolution in our risk profile for the rest of 2022. The general state of the supply chain, the COVID situation in China, and the Russian invasion of Ukraine are all making the path toward a global recovery harder. Once more we find ourselves in a story of significant uncertainty, volatility, and complexity, which leads me to our key priorities. Next page. So, first of all, delivering on our guidance stays the top priority for 2022. We will work hard to mitigate the risks and to capitalize on our opportunities throughout our businesses.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#16

Beyond that, we'll keep strengthening our resilience by drawing on how varied our activities are, the solid backlog of orders from customers, tight cooperation with our supply chain, and our ability to transform and innovate. Regarding that backlog, our focus stays on filling the skyline for commercial business in the out years. We're seeing strong demand for our single-aisle program. Opportunities also exist in the wide-body segment, particularly during the decade's second half, given rising fuel prices and aviation's need to decarbonize. On the Military side, war's return to Europe makes plain that robust defence capabilities are essential to preserving peace and security. The Strategic Compass, endorsed by the European Council in March, rightly stresses how important it is to reinforce European defence by stimulating innovation and investment. Let me quote here: "Measures should be taken by the end of 2022 to promote and facilitate access to private funding for the defence industry, also by making best use of the possibilities offered by the European Investment Bank." That ends the quote. We welcome how clear this decision is. At Airbus, with our long history of European cooperation, we obviously stand ready to support our governments and to contribute to the strength of Europe's and NATO's armed forces.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#17

Turning to the A320 family ramp-up — that is, of course, still among our highest priorities. Given everything we went through together over the last two years, I'm glad that we're now in a position to raise our rate to 75, which once more will benefit the whole global value chain and will help support employment, particularly in our home countries and in the U.S. Next, I'd like to bring your attention to some meaningful strides in our sustainability efforts, which sit at the heart of our company's purpose. During Q1, we engaged with the SBTi, the Science Based Targets Initiative, and committed to establishing science-based carbon reduction targets, including for our Scope 3 Use of Sold Products emissions. We also formally kicked off a ZEROe demonstrator program aimed at testing a range of hydrogen technologies, on the ground as well as in the air. The central element of this multi-year program, the hydrogen combustion engine, will be developed by our partner, CFM International. The ZEROe demonstrator will represent an important milestone on our roadmap toward delivering the world's first zero-emission aircraft by 2035. Airbus' four sustainability commitments also encompass respecting human rights and fostering inclusion. On that subject, I'd like to call out the publication of our human rights policy, which sets out our approach to human rights and serves as the backbone of how we progressively embed respect for human rights across our organization and supply chain.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#18

So as my remarks wrap up, I realize Hélène really ought to have opened the call — particularly with the safe harbor statement. I likely got a little too excited and began a touch too quickly. Hélène, shall I pass those along to you? Today brings yet another innovation — finishing with the safe harbor statement, or not?

Hélène Le Gorgeu

executive
#19

Absolutely. The supporting information package went out to you by email earlier. It contains the slides that we walked you through, along with the financial statements. Throughout this call, we've been making forward-looking statements, and within the package you got is the safe harbor statement, which covers this call too — the whole of it. Kindly read that carefully.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#20

The ex-post safe harbor is applicable too.

Hélène Le Gorgeu

executive
#21

Sure thing, Guillaume. We’re moving into the Q&A portion now. When you ask a question, please state your name and your company. Kindly keep it to 2 questions per turn, sub-questions included. And as always, please remember to speak clearly and at a slower pace so that everyone on the call—especially those of us here—can follow your questions. Clotilde, please go ahead and walk the participants through the procedure.

Operator

operator
#22

Ladies and gentlemen, if you'd like to ask a question, please press zero one on your telephone keypad. Should you wish to take yourself out of the queue, please press zero two on your telephone keypad. We ask that participants use only handsets while asking questions. Anyone who wishes to ask a question, please press zero one on your telephone keypad. Our first question comes from Mr. Ben Heelan from Bank of America.

Benjamin Heelan

analyst
#23

Morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. First one's about the production rate increase. Could you speak a bit to what gives you the conviction that the supply chain can meet these high rates? Over the past couple of months, we've heard about supply chain pressures all the way down different tiers of the supply chain. What's giving you the conviction that the supply chain can manage those production rate increases beyond next year? That'll be the first one. Then secondly, on the XLR, is there any color that you can give around exactly what the challenges are that you faced around the certification? And how should we think about extra costs and risks of penalties now that that entry into service has been delayed? Thank you.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#24

Thanks, Ben. I hope you're doing well. Regarding rate 75, there's the demand side and the supply side. On demand, I'd say it's very strong, and everything we're seeing supports that. Your question, I believe, is more about supply. What gives us confidence? Well, that's the assessment we've done with a very large number of suppliers — and the most important ones — to establish whether this ramp beyond 65 was feasible, when, and at what pace. The feedback we received indicates that it is possible. Of course, ramping beyond a given number is always possible, but within a certain timeframe. From rate 65, which we plan to hit in the middle of next year, and 2025, that leaves enough time for a ramp-up speed consistent with what the supply chain can deliver. In fact, in the near term we see many challenges, and we've tried to share them with you. It's also tied to the fact that we're gradually coming out of the COVID crisis itself. Emerging from COVID created this complexity in the supply chain.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#25

On top of that, we also have the consequences—or the implications—of what is happening in Ukraine and the sanctions. Beyond the short term, and even the medium term and the long term, that is what we have assessed together with the supply chain, and we feel comfortable enough to launch that rate increase with sufficient anticipation. You may recall that I said we wanted to decide around the middle of the year. In fact, we have accelerated, because we had indicators telling us it was the right moment, and we had the conditions in place for launching that rate increase. XLR—well, basically it takes more time, and unfortunately that is not entirely uncommon when developing new versions of planes. A bit more time. We are getting close to the first flight. We are now well into the development phase. We have begun certification, and we are obviously working with the certification authorities to go through the certification process, and we see that it is going to go a bit beyond the end of 2023. That is what we are sharing today. When it comes to negotiation, it is customer by customer, and each situation is different, so I don't want to comment on this one, because I think I am not capable of commenting and giving a detailed color on that one—just to be honest in answering your questions.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#26

That fits into how we work with our customers, and it will keep moving ahead. What we're announcing today, I mean, doesn't alter the overall picture for the XLR program.

Operator

operator
#27

Thanks, sir. Our following question comes from David Perry at JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

David Perry

analyst
#28

Hi, Dominik. Here's my first question. Well, I suppose every one of us — analysts and investors alike — is looking at pretty similar spreadsheets. Once I enter those production rates and put in an FX rate of 1.05, some rather intriguing figures come out. I mean, I'm kind of heading toward EUR 10 billion of EBIT in 2025 in civil alone. I guess I'd simply like to hand Dominik the chance to tell me, you know, everything I'm not taking into account — you know, ramp-up costs, inflation, or whatever else might temper my excitement, perhaps. Then the second question is a far simpler one. Could you just comment on the titanium situation? I don't believe you mentioned anything, or maybe I missed it. Thank you both.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#29

Thanks, David. I’ll handle the simpler one, titanium, since there’s essentially nothing new to report there. Looking ahead, we’re building out secondary sources. As you’re aware, we have protection over the short and medium term, so that’s essentially where things stand going forward, and at this point there’s no particular alert or color we can offer. That part is straightforward. Dominik, are you eager to take the chance to respond to the question?

Dominik Asam

executive
#30

Absolutely. I mean, you're correct about the U.S. dollar. That's actually pretty interesting in our case, though not really over the short term, since as you're aware, we follow a sort of rolling hedging approach in which we aim to soften the impact of swings in the U.S. dollar-euro exchange rate by forward selling future revenue, so to speak. There's a slide in the deck that I've discussed, showing that across 2022 through 2024, we hold roughly a EUR 20 billion per annum hedge portfolio against the exposure. So for 2023 and 2024, that doesn't cover the exposure in full, but it does to a substantial degree. You brought up 2025, and we disclose EUR 13.3 billion in forward sales as of March 2022. A meaningful portion is hedged, and the rate still stands at 1.25. Yes, as we get closer to 2025, and should rates hold at such a strong dollar level, we'd be in a position to hedge at more favorable rates. That could be a decent offset to some of the negatives we're confronting on the inflation front. I think it remains to be seen how these two forces play against each other. I think it's fair to flag both of them as a key point.

Dominik Asam

executive
#31

Beyond that, regarding everything we've laid out for 2025 guidance, we've been steering the year the way we said we would. That said, it's fair to note that this ramp-up opens up chances to push margins up considerably more.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#32

Thanks, Dominik.

Operator

operator
#33

The following question comes from Mr. Tristan Sanson of Exane BNP Paribas.

Tristan Sanson

analyst
#34

Good afternoon, everyone. This is Tristan calling from BNP Paribas, and I appreciate you taking my question. There will be two follow-ups concerning the subjects we've just covered. First, regarding inflationary pressure at Airbus, and also in the supply chain: could you explain your approach to this issue? Specifically, how do you handle the situation when your own suppliers are facing considerable pressure from raw materials and labor, while at the same time being asked to support a continuous rise in production rates? My next question concerns quality costs, or non-quality costs. Could you attempt to quantify for us, or at least characterize, the level of non-quality costs in A320 production versus pre-crisis? What is performing significantly better, and is Airbus able to put a number on that efficiency level relative to pre-crisis? Many thanks.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#35

Dominik, you handle the first inflation question, and I'll handle the second one.

Dominik Asam

executive
#36

All right, sure. Regarding inflation, the first thing I'd like to point out is that the big jumps in energy prices and similar items have now eased. Those created major headwinds for us in the 2021 to 2022 bridge, but I believe that's been handled. I don't anticipate any dramatic surges there, since the purchasing, if you will, for 2022 is now fairly well locked in. What matters with inflation is how it compounds across many years. The near term isn't really the concern, but should this extremely high inflation continue for several years running, then naturally it compounds and creates pressure on us. Naturally, our backlog has prices fixed into it. We do have certain escalation mechanisms, though those have their limits. It's also true that our suppliers would feel pressure, and we'll need to look at each case individually to determine how we handle it. I'd say that's somewhat speculative, because no one today can say whether we'll see inflation running really high, well past the central banks' targets, for an extended period. The cost of quality, I think, is one thing.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#37

Sure. On the cost of non-quality — good question, Tristan. In fact, we did a review of that not long ago, and versus last year, non-quality hasn't moved much at all. It's very much in line with last year. What has shifted enormously is how reliably our suppliers can deliver on time. So that is producing a certain number of quality disruptions and situations we have to handle, and those take a lot of time and are rather costly. It's comparable to what we refer to as acceleration cost — the ramp-up and the effect of a supply chain that struggles to keep pace, and given the complex environment we're operating in, as we describe it, this really is very significant. Well, I can't tell you where that stands relative to pre-COVID. I'm not sure, Dominik, whether we've truly examined it that way. It's more about trying to assess — or first, to hold it as low as we can and make sure the impact on the FAL stays limited, ideally with no impact on the FAL, so the ramp-up isn't slowed. And also handling the prices one at a time, throwing a lot of resources in as soon as we see a crisis emerging so it can be dealt with before, again, it reaches the FAL and potentially affects the delivery date of the plane.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#38

This effort is today higher than it was during COVID—by far higher. It's hard for me to make a comparison with before COVID, so I apologize that I can't give you a substantive answer, but the fact is it's significant. Again, I'm sorry. We're in a comparable situation. I don't have figures to share.

Operator

operator
#39

Thanks, sir. The next question comes from Madam <<inaudible>> at Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Analyst

analyst
#40

Hello, good evening, Guillaume and Dominik, and thanks for taking my questions. There are a few, and many of them, I think, have already been covered. To build on the cost inflation topic, we've obviously recently witnessed the resolution of some U.K. strike action, which led to wages going up by 8.5%. Could you share a little more detail on how you view labor inflation, especially given that we're in a ramp-up period? My second question is on PDPs. Can you comment on the trends you're observing in PDPs in the first quarter and what you expect for the remainder of the year, I suppose, as some normalization is occurring compared with last year? Thanks very much.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#41

Thanks for those questions. I'll take a shot at the first one, and Dominik, I believe you'll handle the one about the PDPs. Following 2 years of minimal salary growth—because of COVID, the restructuring, the initiative we refer to as the Odyssey plan—though that's also something we're seeing across the rest of the industry, we're ramping up once more, having posted a strong 2021 despite an environment where finding resources is hard, and there is indeed greater leverage on the employees' side generally, plus solid grounds for requesting a salary increase given the inflation we're seeing. It comes as no surprise that the size of the salary increase we're granting, and likely will keep granting, will be considerably larger than in prior years. Our challenge is to reach an agreement that works for our employees and works for the company. Frankly, I'm extremely grateful for what the teams accomplished during COVID-19. I believe they did a great job getting through this very tough situation and steering us, riding out the crisis we've faced. So we're working to locate that sweet spot that works for our employees and works for our employer.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#42

Those figures are clearly elevated. Take Spain, for example, where inflation stands at 10%. Among the various countries where we operate, there's quite a spread. Some nations are seeing really steep rates, and we also want to be certain our workforce stays dedicated to the company — loyal to Airbus and content there. Once again, that's the balance point we're striving to locate.

Dominik Asam

executive
#43

Yes. If you check our balance sheet, the net of contract assets and liabilities has actually had a positive effect on the cash flow statement. I believe this indicates that the large negative variance we saw last year in working capital on PDPs — which was still a hangover from the deferral activities during the COVID crisis — has been mostly worked off. We expect that net PDP flow to be closer to neutral this year. Along with the ramp, there's also some growth in trade liabilities, which will help offset the inventory increase in our working capital.

Analyst

analyst
#44

Thank you.

Operator

operator
#45

Thanks, Madam. Our next question comes from Mr. Christophe Menard at Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Christophe Ménard

analyst
#46

Yes, good evening. Two questions from me. First, regarding the path to 75 — do you expect to be at 70 in 2024, or does that profile look different? I'll come back with my second question after that.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#47

Giving you the delivery count for 2024 and 2025 feels a little early right now. Our goal is to hit a rate of 65 by the middle of next year. That's a key data point. After that, 75 in 2025, and we'll keep stepping up gradually as time goes on. There's no particular figure I can share on the exact date with the exact number and all of that, other than mid of 2023, 65.

Christophe Ménard

analyst
#48

Thanks a lot for that. My next question has nothing to do with the first one—it's more about Defence and Space. I was just thinking, given how critical cybersecurity is at the moment, what's your approach when it comes to your cybersecurity entity, which looks like it might be somewhat small compared with other peers? Would you be able to tell us your strategic vision for this subdivision, so to speak?

Guillaume Faury

executive
#49

Yes. Above all, we aim to safeguard our products and services—and, by extension, our customers. A great deal of our cybersecurity resources, skills, talent, and capabilities goes toward defending those assets and delivering cybersecure solutions to customers. That is a very important element of what we do. In addition, we sell cyber services to third parties—to external customers—and that is also part of our activity. That is what our cybersecurity business does, and it sits within our Airbus Defence and Space division, since those cybersecurity services primarily and above all serve our governmental customers, who are also the customers we work with on Defence, on Space, and on Military aircraft. It is aimed at those customers. Going forward, we intend to do more of this—I mean, protecting our customers and serving our customers—and this must be viewed as a whole. We are not seeking to be larger than others in cyber services for third parties. We want to excel in what we do on our platforms, on our other services, and again, in serving these critical customers as well as we can wherever it makes sense.

Operator

operator
#50

Much appreciated, Sir. The next question comes from Mr. Douglas Harned of Bernstein. Sir, the floor is yours.

Douglas Harned

analyst
#51

Good evening, and thanks. So my first question concerns certain deliveries where title has actually changed hands and you’ve booked them as deliveries even though no physical handover took place. We saw that situation with the two airplanes in the Aeroflot matter. What I’d like to know is — I believe you have some cases of that kind involving China — how many airplanes sit in that condition, meaning in a sense not physically delivered? And going forward, do you perceive any risk surrounding those airplanes, those deliveries? That’s my first question. The second one follows up on the A321XLR. If you look back roughly three or four years, customers were raising questions, I recall, about safety — about how safe this new fuel tank design was. Did it surprise you that this has now come up with the EASA? And is the same thing happening in parallel with the FAA, given that the FAA has lately become much more, much deeper in its scrutiny of a great many certifications?

Guillaume Faury

executive
#52

Dominik, would you like to handle the question about the ADA?

Dominik Asam

executive
#53

Right, of course. Take those advanced delivery agreements — the situation there is essentially this: a lessor might be taking delivery while the customer can't come and collect the aircraft at that moment. That's the classic case. And obviously Aeroflot gives you another example. What happens is the entire aircraft price has already been paid, and the whole acceptance procedure — inspection and acceptance by the customer — has been completed. All that's left is a purely mechanical, automatic handover on a date agreed in advance, which has to take place. We don't hold many of these aircraft in storage. That count moves around depending on which customers are involved. I don't view it as a material risk. I'd call it truly exceptional, since the so-called frustration of the contract means we now simply have to physically do what we committed to do — just hand the thing over to the customer. It's frustrating only because of the sanctions.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#54

This is a really particular situation driven by the fact that payment for the aircraft had been made and title transfer had occurred, yet the physical relocation could not happen anymore since sanctions blocked that movement in kind. That is genuinely an exceptional circumstance. On the XLR, sure enough, EASA and the FAA are collaborating and working jointly. For Airbus, EASA serves as the primary certification authority. Our main work is with EASA, and we are progressing through development and the certification process just as we do for other products. Certain modifications are fairly conventional, while others are a bit more specific to this particular variant of the aircraft. Fundamentally, this is the standard development and certification process that we observe advancing. Regrettably, in such circumstances, it is not uncommon and. That additional time must be taken so we can fully comply and demonstrate on paper, after which we ground test and flight test that what we design and produce conforms with the requirements. That is essentially where we find ourselves today. Nothing I would regard as exceptional. It is taking somewhat more time than we had foreseen at the outset.

Operator

operator
#55

Thank you, Sir. The next question comes from Mr. Robert Stallard of Vertical Research. Please go ahead.

Robert Stallard

analyst
#56

Thank you very much, and good evening.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#57

Good evening, and hello.

Robert Stallard

analyst
#58

I've got a couple of questions. To start with, Guillaume, you brought up China as a risk. Have you actually observed any delivery delays from Chinese customers so far, and could you perhaps give some sense of how many planes are slated for delivery in 2022? Then second, on the XLR, just to follow up, might these modifications add weight to the aircraft and affect the plane's targeted range? Thank you.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#59

I think we have roughly the same number of deliveries planned for 2022 as we had in 2021 for the Chinese customers, broadly speaking. In numbers, that's a smaller proportion given that we ramped up deliveries in 2022 compared to 2021. Yes, China is a risk because of the Omicron situation. I mean, we don't know how long the measures, the restrictions, the lockdowns, and the quarantines which are in place today will last. It has an impact on the short-term ability of the airlines to come and take delivery, but also on their own financial situation, if the very low air traffic that we observe today in China keeps extending to the second quarter and the third quarter. That's why we are monitoring the situation in China very carefully. The only good data point we have is the way it was managed in 2020. You remember that we were in a rather similar situation that was recovered later in the year, and finally we found our way forward, and to some extent as well last year. That's why we see it as a risk, but it's a kind of risk which has been managed in the previous years, and therefore we need to see how it plays out this year.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#60

Regarding the XLR, we're in the middle of developing that product. Is that having an effect on weight or range? I'm not sure what you're referring to there. It's the plane's development. It's the development of a variant. When it comes to flight and mission performance, we've made firm commitments to our customers, and we intend to honor those commitments, and there's nothing to report on that front. It's simply the time required to get there. That's a little more than we had anticipated previously.

Operator

operator
#61

Thanks, sir. The next question comes from Mr. Charles Armitage at Citi. Please go ahead.

Charles Armitage

analyst
#62

Yes, good evening. So just examining the pluses and minuses for the quarter. In your full-year presentation at the end, I believe the FX rate you expected for Q1 was 1.24, and the actual figure was 1.21, so that's likely a EUR 100 million tailwind. There were EUR 400 million in write-backs. Sanctions gave you a negative EUR 200 million. That works out to roughly a EUR 300 million tailwind, so to speak. Then there are a couple of other items — I'd welcome some remarks on competitiveness, the heightened competitiveness, which I assume is permanent, but also the cost containment, which you said would diminish gradually. Could you give some sense of that tail, the headwind ahead as cost containment eases, please?

Guillaume Faury

executive
#63

Okay, Charles. To start with, Q1, as you correctly point out, includes EUR 4.2 billion related to the Ukraine crisis. We should emphasize that this is only, in a sense, the immediate balance sheet effect. There are certain effects that remain a concern for the other three quarters of the year, and those are in fact more significant than the EUR 4.2 billion. More is coming, and there will be headwind from missed deliveries that had been planned but are not happening to Russia, for example, plus some effect on the space business, as we mentioned. That cannot be extrapolated, so to speak. There will be more. It is not purely a one-off, but additional headwinds will arise during the year from that. We will need the outperformance that I believe you referred to in Q1 in order to mitigate the negative impact from the Ukraine crisis. On the other hand, the EUR 4.4 billion of this remeasurement in pension liability is clearly a one-off, and it will occur only once. From that perspective, I think, as we said, the guidance has become more challenging, and the risk profile has become more acute because of the pressure that the Ukraine crisis has put on fiscal year 2022.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#64

Possibly one final question?

Operator

operator
#65

Our final question comes from Mr. Harry Breach at Stifel. Please go ahead.

Harry Breach

analyst
#66

Yes, thank you. Thanks for taking my question, and good evening to Guillaume, Dominik, and Hélène. Hopefully just two straightforward ones. Guillaume, maybe to start: since we last spoke at the full-year earnings, there have clearly been a couple of geopolitical developments that can shift how customers approach fleet planning. Could you share how you're viewing the current pace of sales campaign activity at Airbus? Then, entirely separately, thinking about the inventory of completed but undelivered aircraft — Dominik, my math is never great, but if I take the figure you mentioned in February, which I believe was slightly below 100, and factor in first-quarter deliveries plus your production, should we be thinking that roughly 100 units are completed but undelivered right now? Based on what's changed in recent months, what's your best view today on when those 100 units could come back to a more normal level — which I think in the past you've said might be closer to something like 30 or 40 aircraft?

Guillaume Faury

executive
#67

Dominik will handle your second question, and I'll take the first one — and I'll keep the first one brief. Our sales campaigns continue to carry a lot of momentum. Sure, a number of events have happened, but even so, we're still seeing very strong momentum. Yeah.

Dominik Asam

executive
#68

Regarding that undelivered, completed aircraft, we have intentionally stayed fairly quiet about it as things have moved along, since it really only made sense to bring it up back when demand was the obstacle to taking delivery. These days the issue is increasingly on the supply side, which means that with some aircraft you've essentially put all the capital in and they're nearly done, yet they no longer fit the category, perhaps because one part is missing. Yeah. As supply becomes a bigger problem, that figure actually stops meaning anything. So I think your focus should really be on the inventory figures we report and so on. That has not changed in any material way, I'd say, versus the levels seen in earlier quarters.

Hélène Le Gorgeu

executive
#69

That brings our conference call to a close for today. Should you have any additional questions, please email Philippe, Gustav, or me, and we'll respond as soon as we can. Thanks, and I look forward to talking with you again before long.

Guillaume Faury

executive
#70

Thanks, everybody. Goodbye. Enjoy the rest of your day or your evening. Thanks.

Operator

operator
#71

Ladies and gentlemen, that brings us to the end of today's conference call. Thank you all for joining us. You can go ahead and disconnect at this time.

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