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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Airbus Q1 2026 Earnings Release Conference Call. I am Laura, the operator for this conference. [Operator Instructions], and the conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions]. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Jean-Christophe Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Laura, and a very warm welcome to everyone joining us today to dive into our Q1 2026 results. I am in Amsterdam with our CEO, Guillaume Faury and our CFO, Thomas Toepfer. They are here to break down the numbers and take your questions. This call is planned to last 1 hour, including Q&A, and a replay will be available on our website. Today's presentation and detailed financial statements are already available on Airbus website. Before we start, let me remind you that we will be making some forward-looking statements today. I encourage you to take a look at the safe harbor statement in our presentation slides. It's important stuff, so please have a quickly. And with that, let's get things started, Guil the floor is yours. .

Thank you, Jac, and good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Good morning, depending where you connect from. We're in Amsterdam, as said by JC, with Thomas to run you through our Q1 2026 results. As I told you in February, the global environment was complex and dynamic and the situation in the Middle East demonstrates that it remains the case, and it remains fast-changing. While today, there's no direct impact on deliveries, we are actively monitoring potential consequences on air traffic and the global economy. Our priority remains the safety of our employees based in the region who are supporting our customers. On defense, the momentum continues, the focus is on steady execution and ramping up to serve the global demand. On commercial aircraft, we delivered 114 aircraft in Q1. Despite this low number of deliveries, we are ramping up production in line with our plan for 2026 while navigating a shortage of [indiscernible] engines. This is directly reflected in our financial results with EBIT adjusted standing at EUR 0.3 billion and free cash flow before customer financing at minus EUR 2.5 billion. our full year 2026 guidance remains unchanged. So now let's look at our commercial environment and starting with commercial aircraft. In early 2026, the passenger traffic expanded and air cargo demand showed sustained momentum. Short term, we are monitoring the situation in the Middle East. And global air traffic, and we remain confident in the fundamentals of the industry. During this quarter, we booked 408 gross orders. On the A220, we booked 20 gross orders, and we continue seeing positive momentum. Looking at the A320 family, we booked 336 gross orders. This brings our backlog to 7,418 aircraft of which approximately 75% are for the A321. Moving to the wide bodies. On the A330, we booked 17 gross orders. And finally, on the A350, we booked 35 gross orders. I'm pleased to report our largest freighter order that has been placed by Atlas Air Worldwide for 20 A350 freighters. This also makes them the largest customer for the type and the first in the U.S., bringing our total freighter backlog above 100 units. Net orders amounted to EUR 398 including 10 cancellations. Our backlog in units increased to 9,037 aircraft at the end of March 2026. Before moving to helicopters, let me highlight a key milestone in our growing services business. Indeed, in order to better deliver digital services to our customers, we have recently merged our flight operations specialist subsidiary, NAVBLUE, with our Skywise Digital Solutions activities, to form a new company called Skywise. It will provide end-to-end digital solutions to aircraft operators. So now moving on to Helicopters. In Q1 in 2026, we booked 79 net orders compared to 100 in Q1 2025. We signed strategic long-term framework contracts for the H135, the H140 and H145 helicopters with 2 significant emergency medical services operators in Europe at the vertical 2026, Airbus corporate helicopters announced ACH 140, so the corporate version of the H140. So Airbus corporate Helicopters announced launch customers across 3 key regions: the U.S., Europe and Brazil. our leading markets for private and business addition. The market reaction for the new helicopter for this new helicopter is a positive WACC. Finally, looking at unmanned air systems. Garuda Technologies in the U.S. signed a contract for the delivery of up to 18 Flex rotor and crude aerial systems. Overall, we continue to see good momentum in both the civil and military markets, and we remain fully focused on delivering on expectations, including ramping up. And finally, on Defense & Space. We finished Q1 with a very strong order intake of EUR 5 billion, mostly on the air power side, reflecting the need from our customers for military aircraft and services. In addition, we continue to strengthen our position in the drone and anti-drone markets. Notably, we are making progress on the feet-on-class UCCA and crude collaborative combat aircraft as well as an or on our bird of prey on interceptor designed to provide an forces with cost-effective counter U.S. capability. On ESCAN work is ongoing with the French, German and Spanish government to decide on the project way forward. At Airbus, we continue to believe in the need for Europe to develop new quit air systems, and we continue to play a leading role in that effort. In Connected Intelligence, we're advancing on our cybersecurity road map with the signing of the acquisition of Ultra Cyber Limited in the U.K. and Quarklab in France. This further strengthens our sovereign cyber capabilities, complementing the 2024 acquisition of Info in Germany. Finally, in Space Systems, we continue to observe good order dynamics. We are very proud of our contribution to the Artemis 2 Lunar flyby mission. Indeed, the Airbus design and build ESM, the European service module provides essential propulsion, power and thermal control ensuring the safety and success of this historic journey into deep space. And now Thomas will take you through our financials. Thomas?

Thank you very much, Guillaume, and hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining the call. I'm now on Page 6 of the presentation, and I will take you through our financial performance. As you can see on the page, our Q1 2026 revenues decreased to EUR 12.7 billion, down 7% year-on-year. and that's mainly reflecting the lower commercial aircraft deliveries in the quarter and also the U.S. dollar depreciation, however, partially offset by a higher contribution from our Defense & Space division. And on R&D, as you can see on the right-hand side, our expenses slightly increased versus Q1 2025 and stood at EUR 0.7 billion. And let me remind you that our R&D expenses are expected to increase in 2026, notably to support the defense portfolio acceleration. If you turn to the next page, on to EBIT adjusted. Our Q1 2026 EBIT adjusted decreased to EUR 0.3 billion from EUR 0.6 billion in Q1 2025 and it reflects the lower commercial aircraft deliveries as well as a EUR 0.02 hedge rate deterioration, but it also reflects a strong performance in defense space. Now coming to the EBIT adjustments, which were EUR 76 million negative Q1 2026. You see them on the upper right-hand side, and they included a negative EUR 42 million impact from the dollar working capital mismanagement balance sheet revaluation, mainly reflecting the mechanical impact coming from the difference between transaction date and delivery date. Secondly, negative EUR 32 million related to the integration of the former Aero Systems work packages and last but not least, negative EUR 2 million of other costs, including M&A. And this takes our Q1 2026 EBIT to plus EUR 4.2 billion together. As you can also see on the right-hand side, our financial result was positive EUR 466 million, and that mainly reflects the revaluation of certain equity investments and the tax rate of the core business continues to be around 27%. However, the effective tax rate is 20% in the quarter, including the tax effect on the revaluation of certain equity investments, partially offset by the effect of the French surtax. For 2026 as a whole, we expect the French Sirtex to be broadly in line with 2025, which you recall was roughly EUR 0.2 billion. So the resulting net income is EUR 0.6 billion, with earnings per share of EUR 0.74. And our Q1 2026 EPS adjustment stood at EUR 0.33 based on an average of 787 million shares. Now on to our U.S. dollar exposure coverage on Page 8. In Q1 2026, $3.4 billion of forwards matured with the associated EBIT impact and euro conversions realized at a blended rate of $1.21 versus $1.19 in Q1 2025, and in Q1 2026, we implemented $5 billion in new coverage over a 5-year horizon with a mix of instruments, including colors, and the blended rate of $1.24 for this quarter's additions reflect, in particular, the least favorable rate of the colors, which are primarily weighted towards the outer years of our cash horizon. And as a result, our total U.S. dollar coverage portfolio in U.S. dollar stands at $77.4 billion with an average blended rate of $1.22 a as compared to USD 75.8 billion at a rate of $1.22 at the end of 2025. And as mentioned in the full year 2005 disclosure, we have adjusted our portfolio this quarter by implementing some rollovers to reflect the delivery target and phasing for 2006, which we expect to be back-end loaded. Now on to a more detailed look at the free cash flow on Page 9. Our free cash flow before customer financing was minus EUR 2.5 billion in Q1 2026. This outflow mainly reflects the low level of commercial deliveries, which leads to a further inventory increase on top of the 1 that we had already planned for the ramp-up. And our Q1 2026 CapEx was minus EUR 0.6 billion. As you can see on the page, and this supports our rampup in the successful integration of the former Spirit Aerosystems work packages. In order to do this, we expect our CapEx to continue to increase in 2026. Now the free cash flow was minus EUR 2.4 billion, including customer financing for positive EUR 4.1 billion, and we continue to see a diverse and competitive financing landscape in Q1 2006. And at the moment, we expect sufficient liquidity to finance our 2026 deliveries. And last but not least, as you can see, our net cash position stood at EUR 9.8 billion as at the end of March, and our liquidity remains very strong, above EUR 30 billion. And with this, I would like to hand it back to Guillaume.

Thank you, Thomas. So starting with commercial aircraft. In Q1, we delivered 114 aircraft to 46 customers. Looking at the situation by aircraft family. On the A220, we delivered 19 aircraft. The ramp-up is ongoing, and we continue to target a rate of 13 aircraft a month in 2028. So that's no change. On the A320, we delivered 81 aircraft, of which 55 A321s, representing 68% of deliveries for the A320 family. As mentioned, this low number of deliveries results from a so-called desynchronization between production and delivery. The first element of this is the panel quality issue that you know. On this, we are progressing well, and we confirm the operational impact will be limited -- is limited and we spread mainly over H1 of this year. Secondly, we faced an administrative delay that affected the delivery of nearly 20 aircraft to Chinese customers. The origin of the issue, it's behind us, and the corresponding deliveries have resumed. So that's something that we are putting behind us now. Overall, Pratt & Whitney remains the key pace of our A320 ramp-up trajectory and deliveries for this year and for next year, so impacting both '26 and '27. As a result, I would say, no change for the A320. We expect to reach a rate of between 70 and 75 aircraft a month by the end of next year, 2027, and stabilizing at 75 thereafter. Now moving to widebodies. We delivered 14 aircraft, of which 3 A330s and 11 A350s. On the A330 no change, we target to reach the rate 5 in 2029 to meet customer demand. And on the A350, no change either. We continue to target the 12 in 2028. When it comes to the A350 freighter, the ground testing program is on track, paving the way for the first test flight later this year. Now let's look at the financials for our commercial aircraft business. Revenues decreased 11% year-on-year, mainly reflecting the lower deliveries and the U.S. dollar depreciation. EBIT adjusted decreased to EUR 0.1 billion from EUR 0.5 billion in Q1 '25 driven by lower deliveries as well as a less favorable hedge rates. Moving to helicopters. In Q1 of this year, we delivered 56 helicopters, so 5 more than in the first quarter of 2025. Revenues stayed flat at EUR 1.6 billion, reflecting a less favorable delivery mix in the first quarter. As a result, EBIT adjusted stood at EUR 65 million reflecting a solid performance from programs, offset by higher R&D expenses and that's complete. Our review with Defense & Space, where revenues increased 7% year-on-year to EUR 2.8 billion, driven mainly by higher volumes in air power -- this notably reflects deliveries of 2 A400s in the first quarter, including 1 export A400 to Indonesia. This resulted in EBIT of EUR 130 million supported by better profitability across all business units. Now moving on to our guidance, which remains unchanged as the basis for its 2026 guidance, the company assumes no additional disruptions to global trade or the world economy, air traffic, the supply chain, its internal operations and ability to deliver products and services. The company's 2026 guidance is before M&A and includes the impact of currently applicable tariffs. On that basis, the company targets to achieve in 2026, around 870 commercial aircraft deliveries, an EBIT adjusted of around EUR 7.5 billion and the free cash flow before customer financing of around EUR 4.5 billion. Moving on to our key priorities, but they have not changed since last year. We remain focused on ramping up across all our programs, ramp up, ramp up, ramp up with our strong portfolio of products and services, we are fully committed to serving both our commercial and military customers. We continue to rely on our core pillars that underpin everything we do as a company, safety, quality, integrity, compliance and security. When it comes to the geopolitical environment, we can also rely on our global footprint, diversified backlog and operational resilience. Finally, we continue to deliver profitable growth while advancing our key priorities. And now we are ready to take your questions.

Thank you, Guillaume, and Thomas. Before opening the Q&A session, let me set a couple of guidelines. First, please introduce yourself and your company before you dive in Second, we ask you to limit yourself to 2 questions so that we keep things fair for everyone in the queue. And finally, a small lever for the speakers, please try to keep a steady pace and it clearly. It really help us and everyone listening in to fully capture your question. . Now Laura, could you please exclaim the Q&A procedure for our participants.

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. We have a first question from Ross Law from Morgan Stanley.

So a couple for me. First is you're calling out a shortage of an with engines. I just want to check, is this shortage versus the initial agreement? Or is this a shortage versus the lower number that they propose to you for this year? And secondly, just on working capital, inventories grew by over EUR 5 billion sequentially in the quarter. How many aircraft do you currently have fully built with engines but are just awaiting the panel fix?

Thomas, do you want to take that?

Let me maybe start with the -- with your last question, Ross. So indeed, we built EUR 5 billion of inventory that is significantly more than the buildup of last year, almost EUR 1.5 billion more build-out, if you like. And that explains, obviously, the free cash flow development. And the driver behind that is mainly what Guillaume mentioned in his speech saying that we had an administrative delay, so almost 20 aircraft couldn't be delivered to China the issue is resolved and the deliveries have resumed after the close of the quarter, but that is the main reason why inventory is so elevated and it also gives you the order of magnitude of aircraft that essentially have been built and were ready, but could not be delivered for because of an administrative topic that we had to resolve.

Shortage of [indiscernible] engine. Do you want me to take it? Or do you take it?

And maybe on [indiscernible] directly, Ross so no. The situation has not changed. So the shortage is the same that we were talking about in our full year call. So it's a shortage about what we have requested from them. The situation in terms of what they told us they would deliver for 2026 has since then not changed. So therefore, that is what we have put as the basis for our guidance. And as I said, this is unchanged. So we're on track with this. .

Now we have a question from David Perry from JPMorgan.

Yes. in Thomas our well. Two questions, if I can. Can I just follow up on the China deliveries? Because I think we all look at serum I noticed there was a nice bounce in the deliveries in the last few days. But maybe that was the China 20 planes. So -- it looks like the underlying deliveries are still quite low. So I just wondered if you can maybe add some color about the fuse large panel issue, what's kind of going on there? You said it would mostly be resolved in H1, Guillaume, but just any color on the cadence of deliveries for April, May, June might be helpful. . And then the second one, just now you've had a few months to poke around Spirit just wondered if your views have evolved at all in terms of the work needs to be done. Is everything else expected? Any thoughts or color on the A350 ramp would be great.

Hello, David. I hope you're well, too. Thank you. So on the spirit and the first one was on the China delivery. What I'd like to say is that the -- what supports the deliveries in the year is the production. And the production is moving forward on plan. So that doesn't translate into on plan deliveries because we have what I call the desynchronization between production and deliveries, that's coming from different factors, which we highlighted earlier. Obviously, as you can imagine, China makes a significant difference. Almost 20 planes, that's big for 1 quarter, especially the first quarter. But we're also managing this panel issue end of last year, Q1, Q2, and it will be mostly finished by end of Q2. I'm not granular here on how many will come in April, May, June, but that's an ongoing exercise. . So that's going to come somewhere mostly in the second quarter. That leads us to recovery of the situation as we move forward, starting from a very low base in Q1 2026 in terms of deliveries again. But as Thomas commented on before, the increase in inventories actually show that this ramp-up is taking place. And that's something we see, and we trust that we have enabled the deliveries for the next 3 quarters to support the guidance that we have confirmed from a number of aircraft. I hope that helps. Now Spirit, do you want to say a few words?

Yes. Spirit, David. No negative discovery I would say that we are on track. And therefore, the financial guidance that we've given for Spirit is unchanged. Remember, it's a low triple-digit negative on EBIT and then up to a high triple-digit negative on free cash flow. Why is that? Because -- we have to make investments and focus on the ramp-up of 2 critical parts, 1 being the wings for the 220 in Belfast. And secondly, for in Kinston. I would say the win is the slightly easier 1 because we have our teams in broaden and so to send experts to Belfast, I would say, is the easier one. Kinston, as you know, is in the middle of nowhere. So this is a slightly more difficult 1 to send experts and make sure that the ramp-up is happening. But overall, our view is unchanged, and the financial guidance for Spirit was also unchanged.

We have a question from Chloe Lemarie from Jefferies. .

Thomas. I have 2 questions, if I may. The first 1 is on, I think, a comment that was made on the press call. but the fact that there is so far no agreement yet with Pratt & Whitney. Could you please elaborate on this? What's slowing this agreement -- what does that mean for the supply for the remainder of the year? And is the uncertainty essentially within the typical materiality threshold that you apply to your delivery guidance? And the second 1 is on the A220 and the A350 stretch, mentioning you're not yet ready to make a decision on those, what would change your mind? Is it just kind of clearing technical hurdle assessing demand? Or is it because you will focus on the current production ramp at the moment?

So for the question on at Whitney, basically, what I can say is that the number of engine engines to be delivered by products to Airbus this year is something that is frozen and stable. So no change, and therefore, no reason to impact or suggest there is an impact for the number of deliveries for this year. We have a number of areas of disagreement, but the number of engines to be delivered this year is not an area of this agreement. Well, it takes time to resolve the dispute of that kind. As I mentioned earlier, we are, on the 1 hand, trying to resolve and find amicable resolution of the dispute and the disagreement on the 1 hand. And on the other side, we are going through the contractual rights that we have to enforce our contractual rights would we not find an amicable resolution of these agreements. So it always takes time to find a resolution of this kind of topics, especially given the magnitude of the impact that it has for us. And obviously, that it has as well for Pratt & Whitney and their airline customers. When it comes to the second question, well, it's a lot of work to come through the decision of launching a new product or an upgrade of an existing product with the magnitude of what we're speaking here. So it's just an ongoing work to come to technical convergence, industrial enablement, agreement with suppliers, timing, financing, everything. -- we do the normal work that we do when we go through the milestones, the gates of making decisions for those products. So it takes time, and that's something we want to do I would say, by the book to not do shortcuts or overlook important aspect of launching a new product. And we do it in parallel of the focus we have on the ramp-up. These are not exactly -- or not at all the same teams that are working on development of future products and ramping up of the existing production system. There is a bit of other, but not too much. and we conduct the 2 in parallel. These are 2 independent flows of activities. We try to do them -- to do both of them as good as we reasonably can.

We have a question from Milene Kerner from Barclays.

Guillaume and Jean-Christophe. Milene Kerner from Barclays. One question for me, please. When do you expect delivery rate to structurally converge back towards your production levels?

When do we expect delivery rates to converge with production levels? When you look at the full year performance. Well, generally speaking, there is a certain level of conversion. There is a high degree of convergence. We've had, over the past years, moments of desynchronization sometimes of significant desynchronization. But month of December, where we have 130 deliveries is the desynchronization in the other direction because we are delivering by far more aircraft than when we produce. So actually, notionally, we produce in a much more linear and stable way than what we deliver under the influence of a number of parameters that can be customer related, that can be linked to regulatory challenges, can be linked to tariffs coming and having to be managed, can be linked to logistics can be linked to some specific customer issues, as I said earlier, can be linked to our own industrial problems, having claims almost finished without engines or with panels having to be repaired. And that can be happening in November or December as it happened last year, can be as well in another moment in the year. And therefore, we have nonlinearity of deliveries by far more than what we have fortunately on the production side. That's why we're guiding on a yearly delivery basis. We don't like to guide or to give rates when it comes to monthly production rates or even quarterly production rates but it's even less possible to do it when it comes to deliveries. It's something that is nonlinear that tends to be backloaded in the Q2 and in the Q4 in most of the years, not always. And that's something that we are suffering from probably more this year than I remember we've ever there in the first quarter, but we believe -- we hope, we believe we should be reasonably back to where we should have been by end of H1, the administrative topic impacting the deliveries to China is resolved. So what has not been delivered in Q1 will be delivered in Q2 on top of the Q2 deliveries. As I told you earlier, we think the majority of -- the vast majority of the aircraft impacted with the panel will be back on track and delivered. So by end of H1, absent a new situation that could come from the Middle East crisis or I don't know what. We think we should be reasonably resynchronized by end of H1. That's the way I look at it today. I hope not to be proven wrong by again something new. So it's not unusual that we have up and downs in deliveries that are significantly higher with more complete than what we see on the production. And that's also something we have on helicopters. We have our military products, especially on military products. We are very vulnerable to customer negotiation as we approach end of the year.

We have a question from Douglas Harned from Bernstein.

Yes. Thank you. I -- when you look at -- clearly, you're working through getting to that 75 a month number, on the A320 family. But the first question is, as you look toward that, you've talked about stabilizing at $75 a month, but you're sold out well into the next decade. Is there a point when you would look at taking that rate up above $75 a month and thinking about investment for that? And then second question, on Pratt & Whitney, you now have a certification of the GTF advantage engine on the airplane. And we would expect to start those deliveries perhaps by the end of this year. How do you see the ramp of the GTF advantage powered A321s moving through the next couple of years?

So on the rate 75, it's a very important topic, where we have made the decision to move to rate 75 and stabilize at rate 75 thereafter for long. So never say never, maybe there will be enough reasons to do something else at a point in time, but we are not at that point in time. And that's not the current thinking at Airbus. The current thinking is on the single line. We go to rate 75 and then we delivered the backlog at rate 75. We have worked hard. We have invested to have the production system to have the final assembly lines around the world to support that rate 75 in a stable manner. . And it's also a time for us to harvest all the investments because we are much more efficient when we are stable at a given rate and when we ramp up, the ramp up is a difficult exercise. It requires a lot of working capital of hiring, training, qualification of people for us and for the supply chain. So 75, as soon as we reach the 75, we stabilize and we keep it for years ideally in our perspective, a lot of years. When it comes to the advantage, so the GTFA, indeed, it's certified, we will be delivering those engines moving forward. And the intention is that this will be the new version of engine that will be delivered as we move forward. So aircraft progressively will be delivered with Advantage engines, which we are very satisfied with. It's an important upgrade of the engine that resolves the shortages, in particular, in terms of durability that we had observed on the previous -- on the existing version of the GTF engine. So that's a very good milestone. And moving forward, we believe this will be recognized by our customers, and they will enjoy this -- the characteristics of this engine.

We have a question from Ken Herbert from RBC CM.

Guillaume. And I have 2 questions, please, you mantos. First, -- it sounds like we should expect a nice relief of working capital in the second quarter just based on some of your delivery commentary. How do you think the cadence looks in terms of free cash flow from the first of the second quarter, which typically sees a pretty good seasonal step-up from the depressed first quarter levels? And then second, have you seen any change in your supply chain in Europe, in particular, as a result of higher input costs associated with the war, energy disruptions, anything like that, that could add any incremental risk into the production ramp within your supply chain?

I think these are -- if I may, good questions. The first one is too difficult for the CEO. I will hand over to the expertise of the CFO. And -- when it comes to the supply chain, there's no -- there's no disruption or no change that we observe today, but we are worried about the potential impact of the different aspects of the Middle East crisis, starting with the increased price of oil and therefore products, derivative products -- that's something we are monitoring now very closely. We use the playbook that we have developed through the previous crisis, in particular, the COVID crisis to dig into the supply chain, look at the Tier 2, the Tier 3 suppliers anticipate situation of disruption, gather information, exchange information through industry associations in different countries where we are operating. And we feel that we will see things coming. Now we are in a rather good place, if I may, entering into this crisis as we have rebuilt over the last 2 years, basically primarily and mainly the buffer stocks target that we had given to ourselves that were really low moving out of COVID. So we don't know exactly what will be coming, but we are really on it. We are prepared to anticipate and to manage a lot of situations, and that's the way we are entering into this new situation that is coming with a number of uncertainties, sorry.

Just on the free cash flow, I think, can, what I can fully confirm is it's a pure seasonality issue that is linked to the delivery that we're lower than what we had expected because of the China issue and the inventory that we have built. Indeed, that issue should be resolved also including inventory over the course of the year. So I would fully reconfirm the free cash flow guidance for the full year. And that also means indeed that in Q2, you can expect a reversal and cash flow should be positive, of course, because we will release some of the inventory that we've built in Q1.

Cash flow in Q2.

We have a question from Robert Stallard from Vertical Research.

A quick question -- 2 questions actually. First of all, on the broader supply chain, excluding engines, -- are there any other watch areas that you have in your mind, such as seat certification? And then secondly, on the defense side of the business, I was wondering how big a contributor to the growth rate that you saw in Q1 was coming from MBDA.

Okay. I will turn to Thomas for the second one. When it comes to the first one, actually, we continue to have the same areas of concern, probably with a lower degree of intensity interiors seats go structures. But again, to a lower extent, part of the aerostructure is still now internal challenges when it comes to spirits. It's now becoming Airbus. And well, the name of the game for sure is obviously on the engine side. Now we have reduced the number of engines as a reference for the 870 deliveries. So as long as we get those engines, and I have no reason to believe it's not the case that's stable for this year. . The other topics are not necessarily, I mean, impacting deliveries, but the impact the way we deliver the completeness of the aircraft, especially when it comes to sit. And you might remember that we've delivered, and we are entitled to deliver by contract, aircraft without the seats when the seats are biofurnished equipment and they are late or very late. We don't like to be doing this. We'd like to find solutions with customers but that's something sometimes we have to do. So well, that's basically it. On MBDA.

On MBDA, Yes. So I mean, just to be very clear, MBDA is not contained in our order intake and the revenue that we show in Defence and Space. So therefore, everything that you see here is purely organic, MBDA is only incorporated in our EBIT adjusted with the respect of share that we hold. However, also to be clear here, the uplift that you see EBIT adjusted in Defence and Space. So up from the EUR 77 million to the EUR 130 million does not play a key role. It's all organic from all the 3 business segments that we have in the defense and space that have contributed to that. So essentially, it's really reflecting our organic growth and not our participation.

We have a question from David Strauss from Wells Fargo.

Great. Two-part question. Are you producing any A320 glitters at the moment? That's the first part. And then -- the second part, you spoke of pro impacting your ramp-up on 26 also out in 2027. As you look to 2027, is there any opportunity potentially for GE to take a bigger role in your engine delivery profile?

So no, we are not producing gliders at this moment. And yes, we have worked with CFM to the maximum mix and possible. They've supported us to the extent they can to offset part of the missing engines we can, but we also have to deal with the mix of engines and the flow in the contract. So it's something we have tried to leverage as much as we can, but it's not enough to offset the significant number of new engines from [indiscernible].

We have a question from [indiscernible] from ZCCB.

Yes. Guillaume and Thomas. Yes, 2 questions as well on my side. The first one, just on the integration cost for Spirit. The figure of EUR 32 million, I believe, we've seen in the first quarter, is it something we are likely to see on a recurring basis over the year for Spirit IO for Total in the region of EUR 150 million for the full year? And the second question is on the adjustment regarding part of the panel, which needed rework. I was wondering, I mean, initially, I believe there were an expectation that it should almost completed by the end of the first quarter. What was the reason behind the move a bit towards the end of the second quarter, where the work scope a bit more than anticipated? And how much has been the effect on the cost side?

I start with the second question to the extent I can. Well, on the panel, well, the resources would not required to replace the panel on an aircraft are quite significant. And therefore, we have spread the work to the extent we can trying to find a good balance between being as fast as we can to deliver to customers, but also managing those resources so that we can repair a number of aircraft at the same time, which is compatible with this availability of resources. So no major news linked to the fact that we had said mostly by end of Q1, and now we say mostly by end of H1. So we have spread the work on 2 quarters or 1 quarter more than what we had said so far, but it doesn't change fundamentally the view I have on the situation. . Now maybe on the adjustment for panels and on the integration cost of Spirit, I look at Thomas.

I mean, just to be clear, for the effect of the panels, we have not taken any adjustment in our EBIT. It's a phasing effect that we have over the course of the year. And so therefore, this is nothing that we're adjusting for, it's operational. And secondly, on Spirit, again, 2 statements. One is the effect of spirit negatively that you will find in our EBIT adjusted because we have taken over the work packages that were loss making. And if you remember, we got a positive compensation for that. It's roughly a low triple-digit number and I can reconfirm that. And of course, there are some integration costs that we are adjusting in our P&L because they are, as I said, classic M&A integration cost. I cannot make an exact prediction for this, but it's fair to assume that they will slightly increase over the course of the year.

Thank you, Herve. This was the last question for -- and before we close, I hand over to Guillaume for closing comments.

Thank you, JC. Yes, -- before we close, I wanted to share with you that we will host a business update at the time of the Farnborough Air Show. So in July, it will take place in downtown London. -- and the date that has been earmarked is on Tuesday, the 21st of July in the evening. And it's a preliminary information, logistic details will be shared, JC, I look at you, I think, in the following days. So again, happy to share this with you tonight, business update on the 21st of July in London. And then back to you, JC, for the conclusion, closing .

Thank you, Guillaume, and thank you, everyone. We really appreciate you taking the time to join us today. If you have any further questions, as usual, don't hesitate to reach out to Victoria, Olivier just under [indiscernible] we will be answering as quick as we can. That brings our session to close for today. Have a great evening, everybody. or a good day. Thank you. Bye-bye, everyone. .

Thanks. Bye-bye.

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