Alarm.com Holdings, Inc. (ALRM) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 22, 2023

NASDAQ US Information Technology Software conference_presentation 37 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Paul Chung

analyst
#1

Okay. Good afternoon. My name is Paul Chung. I'm the Applied Tech analyst here at JPMorgan. I'm pleased to have with me Steve Valenzuela, CFO of Alarm.com. Welcome.

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#2

Thank you. Great to be here.

Paul Chung

analyst
#3

Okay. Great. So why don't we just start -- just a brief overview of the firm and evolution since 2000.

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#4

Okay. Great. Sure. So if you think about Alarm.com, you obviously think about alarm systems, but Alarm.com is actually much more than just alarm systems. We actually started with the invention of the interactive security system back in 2001. Prior to that time, you had your base alarm system where you come home and you have your landline and you're entering your code and we invented the cellular module that actually made the alarm system interactive. The big difference there is that you can use your smartphone and your smart devices outside of your home or even inside of your home to control your security system. And since then, we've expanded the company quite a bit. We went public in 2015, and we've grown the company now to over 9 million subscribers and we have a unique go-to-market. So we go to market through 11,000 plus what we call service providers. These are independent dealers who actually are the ones that are doing the sales and marketing that allows Alarm.com to really focus on the technology. And what we've done over the years that we've expanded from residential security to the smart property, adding in SMB, adding in commercial enterprise so that now we have a very broad offering. We also have energy management with EnergyHub, multifamily. We have access control for commercial properties. And so -- with our business model, being able to focus on R&D, we're able to come up with all these inventions. And in fact, in 2017, we came up with our own AI system before the words AI were even prominent in the press we came out with our neural network where we actually took that technology from a company we acquired, who is actually doing work for the government, ObjectVideo. They were based in Western Virginia, right outside of D.C. So we took that team, which was about 20 scientists, only PhDs and big analytics, augmented that team. And recently, we actually added another team to that team that we recently acquired, and they built out an AI-based system to really provide smart alerts for both residential and commercial. So think about when there's a person in a vehicle or an animal around your business or your property, you'll get a smart alert. It will actually classify that person or animal even -- it won't tell you what kind of animal it is, but it will tell you there's an animal there. So that probably gives you a little bit of an overview.

Paul Chung

analyst
#5

Yes. And then just level set on TAM. Where are we in terms of households? What's the penetration rate for smart security and home products across the U.S. and where you see that going?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#6

Yes, that's a good point. We're probably -- if you think about it from a baseball analogy, I would think we're probably in the third inning. So in terms of the TAM -- and the TAM is a little bit confusing because there are so many components to our solution. So if you start with North American residential, there's 140 million homes in North America. That includes Canada. And then about 30 million of them have monitored professional security, about half of them have interactive security. And in North America, we have over 8 million subscribers. So we have over 50% of the market in North America. So that's for residential in North America. Then you look at commercial, commercial is made up of SMB and enterprise. And together, it's probably about 6 million properties in North America and then you've got international. And international has actually been growing for us. It's definitely been an area of focus for us. International is about 4% of our revenue. It's growing over 25% year-over-year. Commercial, I would say, is also growing pretty fast, 25% year-over-year. So those are growth segments for us. And then what we have is the other segment where we -- if you look at our financial filings, we have what's called the other segment, which is about 8% of our SaaS revenue. That includes EnergyHub, which is providing demand response for utility companies and their subscribers, including EVs and so we're excited about that opportunity as well. We think there's a lot of opportunity, a lot of potential for as EVs become more and more prominent over the years that there'll be a lot of opportunity for that part of our business as well.

Paul Chung

analyst
#7

Got you. And just an update kind of on the overall macro trends. What's the state of residential? Where are you seeing relative strength across regions and products and kind of the outlook for residential for the second half of the largest market?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#8

It's interesting because you hear about homeownership or sales slowing down. But what's actually happening is that builders actually doing pretty well because there is a lack of supply of new homes -- of homes, I should say, but builders themselves are actually doing quite well, and we have a number of builders like D.R. Horton and Toll Brothers and our service providers actually work with a lot of builders in their local markets. But I would say that residential has been pretty resilient. And one thing interesting about our business model is when there is a -- it's a little bit of a slowdown, there's less moves and moves account for about 60% of churn. So there's a counterbalancing part of our business model, that the fewer moves, there's fewer attrition. So we, therefore, have a higher retention rate. Today, our retention rate is about 93% to 94%, a net dollar retention rate, and it's been pretty consistent. So that's a nice part of the model. And when you think about are we entering in a recession or not? Typically, in a downturn, our business does fairly well, given that is resilient to recessions. People -- when you think about you have your security system and your businesses have security systems and during downtimes, your security becomes more prominent, more concerning. And so therefore you end up having a very good business model that actually does quite well during difficult and challenging times with those counterbalancing aspects. And if you think about what's happening in the world today, it's not getting any safer. So security is becoming more and more of an important contributor, if you will, to businesses and especially with the AI system and the smart alerts and being able to quickly identify and classify what's happening around your business, around your home and be able to identify if there is a bad actor, you can quickly identify where that person went and neutralize that fairly quickly.

Paul Chung

analyst
#9

Yes, I guess, the same kind of question on commercial. It's a smaller proportion of revenues today, but where are you kind of seeing some encouraging trends, access control is one.

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#10

Yes. So video is -- video both actually for commercial and also for residential, and then the AI system we developed, that's really been a major game changer. Because if you think about 4 years ago, video wasn't that good. You didn't have 4K, you didn't have night vision. And what video has allowed us to do is be able to provide a security system, which is the foundation of our solution and make that really a smart system, which provides you really a lot of value add. And today, people actually are -- actually using this system, not just for security, but they're seeing what's happening around their homes. Some people use it for their vacation property to see what animals came by. So it's almost kind of entertaining. But there's a serious element to it, of course, which is really the security aspect, both for commercial and residential. So video has been a game changer. Video analytics, our AI system has been a big game changer as well for both commercial and for residential. And then when you think about all the capabilities that we've added over the years in terms of being able to do smart alerts, be able to tell you what's happening around your property. That's really added a lot of value. And then Access Control, as you talked about, that's actually been expanding quite well for us. It's still a fairly small part of commercial. But think about being able to take your smartphone and being able to unlock your door to your property just with your smartphone, not having to have a key. And then also if you have a business and you have 6 or 7 different restaurants in a certain area, you can provide electronic keys to your employees so they could use their smartphone. And if you need to turn that off, you could do it electronically through an Alarm.com system. So Access Control is also a fairly small part of our business today, but we think it's a big opportunity going forward, and it's growing faster than residential.

Paul Chung

analyst
#11

How do we size the Access Control opportunity there?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#12

It's actually very big. I mean these competitors like Brivo and a number of other competitors out there. It's actually quite big. When you think again about 6 million properties in North America, what's nice about Access Control, it's not based just on the property. So we charge for every door. So we actually have a few customers that have hundreds of doors. And so we charge $3 to $4 per month, that's our ARPU per door. So that could add up pretty quickly.

Paul Chung

analyst
#13

And how are you kind of taking share in that competitive market? Or is it kind of small penetration right now?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#14

I would say we're slowly building our solution there. It's still -- there's still a few pieces we need to deliver. But I would say that we're making good progress there.

Paul Chung

analyst
#15

Okay. And then across the portfolio, we'll start with Residential. Where you're seeing nice momentum across volume and also some pricing power?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#16

Yes. What we've been able to do in Residential is by adding more feature sets like video, like video analytics, we actually charge more. So if you think about from a residential point of view, will we charge the dealer is anywhere from, let's say, $5.50 to $7.50 per month per subscriber. And the difference there is based upon what kind of a system that end customer has. So the higher value-add system where they have video cameras, they have AI, they have thermostats, they have a lot of sensors, we're able to charge more to the service provider. The service provider is able to charge more to the end customer. For Residential, that could be anywhere from -- on a basis of $35 a month to $75 a month. For Commercial, it's $100 per month that the subscriber -- at the end -- the dealer charges the subscriber or more, and we think there's a lot of opportunity for commercial to even expand it 6 to 8 times from an Alarm.com point of view, what we charge a service provider for Commercial is typically 2 to 3x that of Residential. So there's a higher ARPU anywhere from $10 to $20 per month, and we charge a service provider for Commercial.

Paul Chung

analyst
#17

And can you remind us the percentage of Commercial SaaS?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#18

The commercial is about 8.5% of our SaaS, and it's growing at about -- it's actually growing -- if we include our enterprise segment, it's growing over 30% year-over-year. It's growing quite fast.

Paul Chung

analyst
#19

Great. And then just a quick update on Vivint, what percent of revenues was that last year? And any kind of update on that situation at all.

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#20

Yes. So the background on that is, Vivint has been a licensee of Alarm.com since 2013. They've been paying us a license fee because we have all the patents. We developed this technology. They were a service provider back in 2013, did come up with their own solution using a control panel that we are working with them on. And we agreed to be friendly and license them the technology. They've been paying us a license fee since 2013. And in the fourth quarter of last year, all of a sudden, they stopped paying us a license fee and told us they were going to stop paying. And so there's litigation going on back and forth. They were about $24 million of revenue per year, which also went right to the bottom line. That's about 3% of our revenue, a little bit less than 3% of our revenue. The good news is that we have taken that revenue and that financial contribution out of our guidance, it's out of the analyst models. We have included litigation, anywhere from $16 million to $18 million this year for litigating that matter. And so any resolution here will be upside. I can't say when that resolution is going to occur. With the license agreement, there is an arbitration clause and that arbitration clause provides for a typical faster legal resolution 12 to 15 months. So think about maybe the end of this year, beginning of 2024. And then separately, we've sued Vivint on other patents we've developed since -- a few other patents that we've developed since 2013. In total, we have over 600 patents. And so back in 2013, we had less than 200 patents. So there's a lot going on there. But Vivint was acquired by NRG a couple of months ago. And so I can't really say too much other than I think NRG is a commercial professional company. And so hopefully things will move forward in a professional manner.

Paul Chung

analyst
#21

Okay. Thanks for that update. Let's talk about your kind of go-to-market if you're key service providers, how are you adding subs? Any other strategies of the firm is implementing with those partnerships?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#22

Yes. So it's a great business model because every day, think about there's 11,000 service providers who have thousands of salespeople out there every day selling for Alarm.com. And effectively, we focus on the technology, the service provider does the sales and marketing, they do the installation. They do -- they actually maintain the central station when there is an alarm, they actually respond to the end subscriber. And so what we're doing is we're providing that technology. We're hosting the technology for the service providers. So we have data centers in Virginia and Arizona. We have our own people to actually monitor and manage those data centers. We're very focused on security, cybersecurity because all the data that we have. And so from that, if you think about the opportunity there, we spend maybe 11% to 12% of our revenue in sales and marketing. We do spend about 28% to 29% of our revenue in R&D. And so the go-to-market there, again, is pretty advantageous for us in terms of being able to focus on making sure that the service provider has the best possible technology because they're all competing with each other, right? They're all the independent businesses and they're competing with each other. And so -- and with other players out there, too, like Resideo, who's a competitor of Alarm.com. And so our focus is obviously providing the best technology to the service provider and providing them the AI capabilities as well to help them to renew customers, providing best practices and also giving them the best technology and tools to be able to reduce truck rolls to be able to remotely monitor what's happening with the system, if there's an outage or if a control panel is not working, we have tools and technology that we provide, the service providers that they can use to remotely diagnose what's happening with the systems. And I think a lot of people don't realize that, but the Alarm.com solution certainly is customer facing in terms of the end subscriber, but there's a lot of the technology, the service provider uses from Alarm.com that's in the background that we provide the service provider. That's a lot of capabilities. We have a lot of third-party integrations with a lot of different devices. So there is a tremendous amount of IP, and that's been built up over the last 23 years.

Paul Chung

analyst
#23

And what's been the feedback from the service providers on the current state. And then it's quite fragmented market. So are you seeing any kind of consolidation happening amongst the service providers at all?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#24

It does happen sometimes. I haven't seen a lot of that. I would say the feedback has been very positive from the service providers. We have a close relationship with them, even though they're independent businesses, we just had our conference at ISC West in Vegas in March and very good feedback. Our team was there and we interacted. We do a lot of training sessions and ongoing training, not just at ISC West, but even though it's -- they're separate businesses, we have a close relationship we developed over the years. If you think about it, the service providers are reliant upon Alarm.com effectively for the operating system for their business. I mean we enable their business. So that is a very important relationship.

Paul Chung

analyst
#25

I think so. Talk on international. Which regions are you targeting? How are you positioned to take share?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#26

Yes. So international is -- we think a great opportunity for us. It's only 4% of our revenue today. But if you think about it, it really should be 25% to 30% of our revenue at some point. Now I'm not saying when. So I'm not giving guidance, but the opportunity is certainly there. And the way we're going to market there is similar to the way we grew North America, really signing up service providers. But there are some complexities internationally. And some of that has to do with the control panels, the cellular networks and some of the countries are different. And so 1 of the things actually we announced today is we acquired EBS, a Polish manufacturing company that has a communicator that's going to allow us to be able to go to market in many different countries quicker and be able to enable those service providers to be Alarm.com dealers. So for example, Europe is an area for us that's been doing quite well. Australia, New Zealand, South America has been doing well. We think there are some opportunities in Asia. We're not in China. We're not in India yet, but we're probably not going to be in China, but we might be in India at some point. But international, we think is a very good opportunity for us.

Paul Chung

analyst
#27

Okay. And then just on the -- moving back to commercial, where are you seeing some relative strength across regions and verticals, especially verticals, I guess.

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#28

Yes. So in commercial, so again, commercial, you have SMB, which is like think about like somebody who owns 6 or 7 different restaurants in a geographic area, that's really we've started out with. We took the Alarm.com residential system, and we had our engineers spent some time with restaurant owners, coffee shop owners in our area and learn and adapt the residential system to be configured, if you will, similar to residential, but more geared toward a commercial business to be able to operate 6 or 7 different restaurants. That's SMB. Again, for that, we charge a higher ARPU typically $10 to $20 per month. And then you have commercial enterprise, and this is really how we got the market there was acquiring OpenEye back in -- I think it was 2019. We acquired OpenEye, which competes with like Verkada and EcoEye, and think about large commercial properties, think about large theme parks, franchisors, schools, universities, Gonzaga University as a customer of ours. And here, you've got maybe thousands of cameras deployed and you have to have the technology to be able to quickly again see what's happening across those -- across the property with thousands and thousands of cameras. And one of the things we've recently done for the commercial segment is actually add a third-party camera support. And that's important because if you think about a lot of businesses have a legacy security system because they have to have a security system because of their insurance requirements. But again, most of those are legacy systems, and they have cameras. So by being able to use and not have to throw out their cameras, that saves the end customer money and allows us to implement our solution and have the recurring SaaS revenue. So that's been, I think, an important development for commercial enterprise.

Paul Chung

analyst
#29

Yes. And then -- you touched on the AI program before, but where are you seeing opportunities there? And where are you deploying some of the solutions and some examples there?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#30

Yes. For commercial, for example, one of the things is being able to do line counting. So imagine if you again have a coffee shop in 6 or 7 different coffee shops in a geographic area or you have a Chick-fil-A where you have the line of cars, which has typically has a lot of line of cars, but you can -- our system will do line counting, to be able to tell the owner or the manager at which location has the longest waits and then they can send employees from 1 location to another location. That's 1 of the things that we develop with our AI solution. Another one, of course, is being able to tell if there's somebody staying in the back of a property for longer loitering and alert the property owner that there may be trouble back there. But another solution we developed is AB testing for like retailers to be able to say, okay, if I put the merchandise on this line versus that line, which line is actually the best location for my merchandise. So that's for commercial. For residential, again, it's being able to give smart alerts to the customers that there is a person in my property, and you can actually set a zone where you can identify if somebody comes in that zone, then you'll get a smart alert. You can also identify vehicles and animals again. We haven't got to the point yet where it tells you what kind of animal or we haven't got to the point yet where it actually tells you if it's your vehicle or your families vehicle, we're working on that, of course. And then one of the things that would be very important for residential to be able to identify an alert if someone goes into a swimming pool, right? And a customer would pay a lot of money for that. Now we haven't perfected that yet, and we wouldn't come out with that until it's 100% perfected, but we think there's a lot of opportunity with AI and capabilities such as those applications and those solutions that are specific to certain needs of our customers.

Paul Chung

analyst
#31

All right. So let's talk about some of the growth areas that you're expanding into, start with energy management at EnergyHub. How big can this business be? And what's your footprint now? And how is that expanding?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#32

Yes. So the other segment, which includes EnergyHub, is a little bit less than 8% of our SaaS revenue but it's growing at about 20%, 25% per year. So it's growing faster. EnergyHub is part of that segment. And we actually acquired the business, I think it was around 10 years ago, and it took a couple of years, but they became over the last 5 years, I would say they've become the de facto standard for residential demand response for utilities. A number of large utilities, which I probably can't name our customers of EnergyHub. And the way this works is that EnergyHub works with the utility to be able to implement the demand response system, the utility markets to their residential subscribers to join the demand response network. EnergyHub also enables the utility to market to those end customers. And for each customer that joins the demand of response, system EnergyHub [ consists ] recurring SaaS fee. And so that's grown over the years as, of course, the energy demand on the grid has expanded. And now what's happening is with EVs, when somebody brings an EV home, it's like putting like a whole block demand on the grid. And so that's really caused a lot of need for more demand response. And so EnergyHub is developing some unique solutions for EVs, for utilities that we think is going to be quite compelling in the next couple of years and really help to drive growth. So we think that business could be quite large. I can't say exactly how large, but it is growing faster than the overall residential business.

Paul Chung

analyst
#33

And then PointCentral, you have some incumbents in the space, how is that business doing?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#34

Yes. PointCentral is both for multifamily. I think like apartment houses being able to mainly have access control, and also for vacation properties. So we have a solution there where if you have, let's say, you have 4 or 5 different vacation properties instead of the tenant, the person having to go get a key, they get an electronic key to open the door and they also have the thermostats that they can remotely manage and also to be able to manage the sensors. It's less about security, more about access control and being able to manage the property. That business is a smaller part of our revenue stream today.

Paul Chung

analyst
#35

And then Building36 as well?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#36

So Building36 is another -- it's actually based in Boston here. They really are the backbone of building our thermostat system. So we sell a lot of thermostats. And so Building36 has built those thermostats and developed the technology for the thermostats. We've also recently come out with smart water valves and what we call the Water Dragon. So we can sense and alert you if there's a break in your property in terms of the water main or for using too much water. The smart water valve plus meter actually gets installed where your water main comes into your home. So that is -- that does require a plumber, but recently came out with Water Dragon, which actually clips onto your pipe and it actually uses a technology to be able to tell how much water you're using here. If the flow of water is too high, it will send you a smart alert. You could set the alert either way, if you want a low flow or a high flow alert, you can actually set those alerts. So we think that, that's pretty compelling solution especially in the Northeast, where you have a lot of pipes and a lot of water breaks and because of the freezing weather or if you have a vacation property, right, you want to make sure you know if there's something going on with your water.

Paul Chung

analyst
#37

Cool. So that's all really cool stuff. So moving to gross margins. SaaS side is strong, but you see kind of fluctuations on hardware, what are longer-term hardware margins and kind of overall margins as we think about that?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#38

Yes. Last year, Q1 of 2022, the hardware margin was 11%. That was when we were really at the height of the supply chain dynamics. The challenge is we had to air freight and a lot of products from Asia and that costs us a lot more than, of course, shipping on the water, which we're able to do now. The good news is that Q1 hardware gross margins were 23.7% and that's in our normal 23% to 25% range is where we would expect hardware margins to be. Interesting about the hardware margins for commercial, it's actually higher. It's more like in the 40% range whereas residential hardware margins are more in the 20% range. So as commercial continues to grow, we should see hardware margins over time increase. Now the good news is 65% of our revenue is SaaS, and there, we have high margins, 85% to 86% gross margins. And so that's been very resilient, very predictable.

Paul Chung

analyst
#39

So as we move down the P&L on OpEx, where you targeting investments across G&A, R&D and where do you see some leverage in the model and then kind of longer-term targets and the kind of path to rebound here after Vivint hit in '23?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#40

Yes. So one of the things we did do in Q1 is we did a little bit of rightsizing because we've hired a lot of people in the last couple of years, like a lot of companies, not at the scale of Facebook, but we did do about a 3% or 4% reduction, mainly performance management in terms of people that have joined that really come up to speed at the right speed or you right to scale, if you will. And so we made those reductions to bring down some of the cost structure and realign some of our investment areas. But the area that we really invest in is R&D. So that's about 28% to 29% of our revenue. You would think that once we get to a steady state, the R&D should be in a normalized 12% to 14%. And therefore, our EBITDA margin should be in the 30% plus. Now I can't say when that would occur. In the past, we have been at 30% plus EBITDA margins before we went public. And so our model is definitely 1 that's very flexible and very resilient and 1 where we could certainly see a return to 30% EBITDA margins at some point in the future.

Paul Chung

analyst
#41

Okay. So I have some more questions, then I'll open it up to the audience if anyone has a question.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#42

I have a question on the EnergyHub. I mean the whole distributed energy management space is quite interesting. So it involves not only the EVs, but also like solar panels and storage assets. So can you maybe share a little bit more on how the EnergyHub kind of play into this area? And like what are the constraints for the growth in the future? Or any kind of I guess, things that either on the regulatory side or on the market side that is kind of hindering your growth on that area?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#43

Yes, that's a good point because EnergyHub -- the energy demand and the demand on the grid we all know is increasing, electric vehicles are going to increase that, as I talked about. But so what EnergyHub does is they work with the utility companies to really provide the demand of response for residential customers. And so the residential customer of, let's say, Duke Energy, for example, would be marketed to from Duke and they would join that demand response, that subscriber would get a reduction on their energy bill, a little bit of a discount. And then the utility can actually reduce or manage their temperature remotely, they have to have a smart thermostat, of course. And so just even reducing the temperature by 1 degree or 2 degrees across millions of subscribers can really reduce the demand on the grid. And when a utility has to go out and buy energy on the open market, it's very expensive for them. And so by being able to save the demand, if you will, and reduce the demand on the grid really saves the utilities, a lot of money. So EnergyHub has that technology to be able to provide that solution for the utility for them to go to the end subscriber, the residential customer and provide that service. The same for EVs. And in fact, for electric vehicles, there are some different technologies that EnergyHub is working on with the utilities to provide some unique solutions. For example, when people come home and typically, they plug in their EV 6:00 at night and 6:00 to 8:00 is like the highest demand on the grid. And so there's some technology that EnergyHub has that actually knows which customers are going to leave that plugging in overnight and so it will slow charge from 6:00 to 8:00 and then it will start charging faster overnight. So that, again, it reduces the demand on the grid during peak times. So that's just 1 of the many solutions that EnergyHub provides. We think that there's quite a bit of opportunity here. It's actually -- EnergyHub has grown quite well over the last, I would say, 5 years. And they've really become de facto standard for residential demand response for utilities. Today, when utilities are looking at demand response and more and more are because of all the energy needs and all the energy challenges they look at energy up for the most part.

Paul Chung

analyst
#44

Okay. Let's talk about -- Oh, 1 question.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#45

Just 1 on ADT. I think you guys mentioned that they're going to be moving away from the platform in the back half. Can you just talk a bit about what that means for your business? And is there any risk that they or others could take the Vivint route, I guess, and try and stop paying licensing fees?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#46

So we have over 11,000 dealers today. Since 2013, there's been 1 dealer who has actually come up with their own solution and that's Vivint. What you're talking about is ADT, Google has announced a few years ago that they would be coming out with ADT solution. We are a close partner with ADT. Our agreement with ADT is that we will license the technology as they come out with their solution and we'll be paid a license fee for that. But the important part is that we have an agreement with ADT that we will continue to manage their subscribers that are on Alarm.com called Command and Control & Pulse, which is what ADT Solution is for the life of those existing subscribers, which is 8 to 10 years typically. And then the new subscribers, when they do come up with their solution ADT would then pay us a license fee. I understand from what ADT has talked about is that will likely be in the fourth quarter is when they may come out with that solution. Initially, it was going to be beginning of 2023 and I think the latest from what ADT has talked about is they're looking at coming out with that at some point in the fourth quarter. But that's just publicly what they've talked about.

Paul Chung

analyst
#47

Then let's finish on cash. It's been in good shape historically, heavy investments in inventory. But how do we think about sort of cash flow and normalization there?

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#48

Yes. So we have been a very cash flow positive company. Over the years, we typically have generated $80 million to $100 million of operating cash flow, $80 million of free cash flow. Last year was a unique situation with the supply chain where we actually invested in inventory. So I think our operating cash flow last year was lower. It was about $50 million. I would expect now that as we get through the supply chain dynamics, we'll start to see inventory start to come down, which will then help, of course, our operating cash flow. One of the negatives that is occurring is this new tax law, Section 174, which is taxing R&D and requiring companies to capitalize their R&D and amortize it over 5 years. There is some potential discussion that, that would actually might be repealed. But effectively, what it does, it actually accelerates the tax to the recent years, starting with 2022 and then 5 years to 10 years, the tax will be lower. And so what that's actually done is that actually cost us $40 million to $50 million of cash per year. And just to give you an example, in Q1 of this year, our operating cash flow would have been around $30 million had we not had to make a tax payment of around $37 million. So it's not a real operating, but it's more of an acceleration of the tax. Now again, if that gets repealed, then we'll get back to a normalized $80 million to $100 million of operating cash flow. But otherwise, we have $606 million of cash. We do have a convertible that we put in about 2 years, 2.5 years ago, $500 million convertible. It's a 0 coupon, a premium of $147. And so we have a net cash positive of over $100 million, and we're generating cash. So we're in a very good cash position.

Paul Chung

analyst
#49

Well, we're out of time, and I want to thank you again for your time today.

Steve Valenzuela

executive
#50

Yes. Great to be here. Thank you.

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