Alector, Inc. (ALEC) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 10, 2020

NASDAQ US Health Care Biotechnology conference_presentation 46 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#1

All right. So good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining Citi's 15th Annual Biopharma Conference. I'm Neena Bitritto-Garg. I'm one of the Smid cap biotech analyst here at Citi. For our fireside chat, I'm pleased to be joined by the team from Alector. I have with me today Shehnaaz Suliman, President and COO; Robert Paul, Chief Medical Officer; and Sabah Oney, Chief Business Officer. So just to start off, Shehnaaz, if you want to talk a little bit about just kind of the concept of neuroimmunology and how it's differentiated from some of the previous approaches that have been taken in neurodegenerative diseases, that would be great.

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#2

Thank you, Neena, and it's great to be with everyone today. We're pioneering a completely new approach to treating brain disorders, which we call immuno-neurology, which integrates immunology and neuroscience and genetics to develop therapeutics that improve the brain's immune system to fight neuro-degeneration. Much like the field of cancer immunotherapy, which was transformed by the development of immune checkpoint inhibitors and an increased understanding of cancer immune biology. In immuno-neurology, we hope to transform the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases by identifying brain immune checkpoints as therapeutic targets and that activate the brain's immune system to fight neurodegeneration. We know from human genetics that the vast majority of risk genes for neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer's are, in fact, immune checkpoints that are associated with microglia, which is the brain's primary innate immune cell. And so our therapeutic strategy is really directed at targeting these risk genes in order to enhance the actions of microglia, which we now know to be really important to maintaining bone -- brain homeostasis and many other functions of immune surveillance. And so the way to think about Alector at this point is really a company that is developing a broad portfolio of very relevant immuno-neurology targets that are really focused on activating microglia and the brain's immune system to address neurodegeneration.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#3

Great. Now, that was a great introduction. So now I want to talk about some of the specific assets. So of course, AL001 is your lead asset, just entered the Phase III study for frontotemporal dementia patients with mutations in the granulin gene. So let's kind of take a step back and just talk about the mechanism of action. The -- and also just kind of the importance of when you think about increasing progranulin levels, thinking about intracellular versus extracellular levels, just because that is a question that we get from investors.

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#4

Absolutely. So our lead asset, 001, is a sortilin inhibitor. And I'll describe why that's relevant in just a moment. Going back a step, we know from human genetics that progranulin is a critical factor for brain homeostasis, and it is, in fact, a key regulator of immune activity in the brain. And it's got genetic links to multiple neurodegenerative diseases, including frontotemporal dementia. From the genetics, we know that patients that have a homozygous form of this, with the complete loss of function, develop a very severe form of dementia in their early adulthood and they die very young. But due to ApoE insufficiency, patients who have the heterozygous point, which is the form we're targeting, have one good and one bad copy. And because of that, their progranulin levels are substantially diminished. And so the goal of our therapeutic strategy is to really upregulate progranulin levels to physiologically normal levels to restore endogenous supply of progranulin. Now the way that we do that with 001 is we target a degradation receptor called sortilin. Sortilin is one of many proteins that is responsible for actually trafficking progranulin to the lysosome. We know that lysosomal function is extremely important in a number of neurodegenerative diseases. When it -- when the dysfunction occurs, we see the onset of dementia. And so what's really great about our approach is that through targeting the degradation receptor, we're able to basically stimulate the endogenous supply of progranulin and know that we're able to affect both intracellular and extracellular levels. Now you asked an interesting question about perhaps the biologic relevance of targeting progranulin and sortilin specifically. What we know is that there are a number of other chaperone proteins that are actually responsible for the biologic function of progranulin in an independent, sort of an independent manner. And so when you look at the phenotypes of patients with sortilin, there is actually no deleterious effect. But when you look at the sort of knockout phenotype of these other proteins, you see that there is a deleterious effect on lysosomal function. So what this tells us is that we're able to effect -- we're able to inhibit sortilin, but at the same time, because of these other chaperone proteins, still enable a very functional ability for progranulin to traffic to the lysosomes. And so this has sort of played itself out in both our Phase I and Phase II data, where we actually have an incredibly safe profile, and we see no deleterious side effects with upregulating the endogenous supply of progranulin to normal levels.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#5

Great. So now, as you mentioned, right, we've seen some Phase I data and some preliminary Phase II data from AL001 in FTD patients. So could you just talk a little bit about one of the key biomarkers that we've looked at is neurofilament light chain. So could you just talk a little bit about neurofilament light chain, what it is, how it progresses over the course of FTD? And just any information that you can help share on how long it could take to kind of see a difference in a clinical study? That's obviously the key question that everyone is asking, so.

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#6

Yes, and it's a totally fair question. I think neurofilament has become a very relevant biomarker because people see it as a distal biomarker that is representative of neuronal and axonal degeneration. I think the way we prefer to frame our biomarker data is that while neurofilament is important, it really is the totality of the biomarker data that we are seeing that is going to provide a more complete picture of what's going on. Our goal here is really to be able to associate, and where possible, correlate the tracking of these biomarkers with disease progression. And what that, in effect, means is that we need to look at neuro-inflammation, lysosomal function, as well as neuronal degeneration as really kind of key biomarkers, if you like, that tell us about the therapeutic effect of AL001 on the treatment of these patients. And so in -- at the AAIC presentation, while we discussed neurofilament, and we showed a 14% reduction from our Phase Ib early data. However, at AAIC, we also showed an impact on several other disease-relevant biomarkers like Osteopontin as a measure of neuroinflammation and Th1, and Clofexan as a key measure of lysosomal function, in addition to the effects we showed on neurofilament in patients at various time points. And what we'd like to say about that is it's really the totality of this data and the trends that we observe on different kind of aspects of neurobiology, which we find to be the most encouraging. The other thing I'd say about neurofilament is that we know from the registry data that it can take quite a while in order for neurofilament levels to stabilize. We also know from treatments with ofatumumab and SPINRAZA in MS that it could take up to 6, 12, sometimes 18 months for neurofilaments to actually plateau, to stabilize and to see a decrease, which is consistent over time. And this is the reason why. What we'd really like to do is develop a composite data set and to look at durability of response. And so maybe that's a long way of answering your question that we -- while we think neurofilament is indeed a very relevant biomarker, we also think that durability of response and looking at it in the context of our overall biomarker profiles is important.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#7

Absolutely. That makes sense. So just thinking about the durability of effect, I know you're going to be planning an update, a data update once all of the patients have essentially completed 6 months of dosing. So could you just talk a little bit about what we should expect to see there? What biomarkers can we get MRI data, clinical end points? And also which patients, right? Because there is a question about there were a few patients who missed doses due to COVID-19 in the AAIC data set. So how those patients might be treated in the 6-month data as well?

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#8

Certainly. So I would say, right now, we're -- really are totally focused on executing the Phase II as well as our Phase III, which we're very excited about having initiated, despite COVID. But with COVID, what we really want to ensure is that we have a meaningful number of patients with significant treatment duration at a minimum 6-months when we disclose this data. And we will know more specifically about the timing, I would say, early next year. And so our goal is really to update investors in the, I would call it, the January time frame about specifically when we're going to have a full data set. Neena, you alluded to the fact that perhaps a complete data set would be more relevant and interesting than a partial data set. And so what we hope to do when we show and disclose the 6-month data is to show 6-month data for all of the patients that we have that have both CSF and plasma biomarkers, volumetric MRI as well as clinical outcomes. And so the goal is really to have a significant number of patients, the majority of patients that have rolled over from the Phase I and have completed the 6-month assessment with all of those biomarker clinical outcome endpoints and then disclose the data at that point in time. So while I won't be able to give a specific update around the timing. What we can say is that by early next year in the January time frame, we should have great visibility on how many patients and when we intend to disclose that ideally at a scientific forum, and we can provide an update then.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#9

Great. So will that update include also patients with C9orf72 mutations? Or will that be mostly focused on just the GRN mutation patients?

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#10

Yes. So we are continuing to enroll the C9orf cohort as well as asymptomatic patients in the Phase II. And again, what we're trying to optimize for is completeness of the data set, integrity of the data set and durability of response. So as soon as we have that, we are totally -- we are going to be totally open about disclosing that data. I think what we learned from AAIC, where we were incredibly transparent about our data, individual patient data points that there is some variability here. And because we're measuring neurofilament, as often as we are, that durability -- that variability doesn't always necessarily provide a clear enough picture of what's going on. And so our learning from that is really to just give the data an opportunity to show itself. And to do that, what we need is to treat these patients for as long as we can and to get the composite data set to be available.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#11

Okay. Great. And I just want to confirm. I just got a question from an investor, just to confirm that we probably won't get an update at CTAD. It sounds like it is going to be a 2021 update, right?

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#12

Yes. I think that's fair. So I would -- we're not planning to have an R&D Day in December. I think we were hopeful that we might be able to do that. But in retrospect, I think -- and again, this just came out of the learnings of presenting an incomplete data set that wasn't really able to tell us definitively what's going on with neurofilament. Our plan is really to just wait until we have, again, a sufficient number of patients that have enrolled with a full and complete data set, and we can guide early next year in January as to the specific timing of when we will disclose that.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#13

Okay. Great. So of course, we've seen data now from the symptomatic GRN patients. But obviously, you mentioned that you are still enrolling asymptomatic and C9orf72 mutation patients. So I guess, could you just talk a little bit about what we could expect to see in those patients? I think just given that different mutation, of course, with c9orf72 patients, and then with the presymptomatic patients, if their NfL levels and the MRI look very similar to a healthy individual, I guess, what could we expect in those patient populations?

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#14

And I think the best indicator for what we could expect to see comes from the GENFI and all FTD registries. If you look at the trends for neurofilament in the C9orf and presymptomatic cohorts, what we saw very clearly from the GENFI data that was published in December, is that first and foremost, there is a spike in neurofilament in patients that are about to convert. And that spike is really predictive of patients that will move from presymptomatic to symptomatic. The second thing that we saw is that the c9orf neurofilament levels tended to trend similarly to the progranulin patient cohort, but perhaps not with the same degree of effect. So I would say conceptually, the C9orf patients, because of the underlying pathology which is very similar to the progranulin mutations, should be trending similarly to the FTD progranulin cohort. Again, our plan with this Phase II was to gather as much information as possible longitudinally. And so we will have that data from the c9orf cohort. We're, in fact, planning to add even more C9orf patients to the enrollment of this Phase II to be able to say with greater confidence what we expect. And that data should be available sometime next year as well.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#15

Excellent. So, and you mentioned, right, we just started a Phase III study with 001. So I guess, could you just walk us through kind of the design of that study? And specifically around kind of the presymptomatic FTD GRN cohort, how should we think about the inclusion criteria for that population and the likelihood that they are going to convert over a reasonably short period of time to symptomatic disease?

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#16

Maybe I'll start and then Robert, you can fill in the gaps on this one. But it is, as you would expect, a randomized placebo-controlled trial in which we are looking at both presymptomatic and symptomatic patients. And the goal here is to really be able to see -- be able to impact disease progression on patients that are likely to convert. From what I just said about the registry data and what we know about these patients, there are some cut points in neurofilament that are likely to stratify patients that will convert perhaps sooner rather than later. And so what we've tried to do in the study is to really the final cut point that we hope we'll select for early converters. At the same time, the symptomatic cohort will reflect patients with kind of mild to moderate disease that are also on the spectrum of progressing so that we're able to, in fact, have a chance at impacting disease decline. I'll stop there and let Robert fill in the gaps.

Robert Paul

executive
#17

Yes, and I just want to add that based on our experience with Alzheimer trials where they started mild-to-moderate and then mild and then basically then when all the -- or most of these studies failed and went into prevention part, we actually want to have an approach now where we can actually test this in one study. I think that's the elegant way to do this. And as Shehnaaz mentioned, there is neurofilament. We know from the registries if they have neurofilament levels in the plasma, but for a certain level that they have a high likelihood that they actually developed symptoms over time. The asymptomatic patients will be actually on the trial longer than the symptomatic, but this is really a design where you can -- it has a prevention component, but also a treatment component in the symptomatic patients. And we have patients that are very mildly affected, but also more advanced. So this gives us an opportunity basically to study FTD across basically the whole spectrum of disease stages.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#18

Great. Could you talk a little bit about just kind of the design at a high level, kind of looking at the primary endpoint of CDR, CDR Sum of Boxes, NACC FTLD is the primary endpoint, but just thinking about kind of the basing design and what would be needed to consider the study a success based on the basing criteria, if you could talk a little bit about that, too?

Robert Paul

executive
#19

So basically, we have 2 dose arms. So we have one active, one placebo arm. We -- the CDR FTLD is like a variation of the CDR-SOB that's used in Alzheimer disease. But since the clinical phenotype is different in FTD. So people have language problems also have behavioral changes, which is not covered necessarily in the classic CDR-SOB. So these 2 domains were actually added to make it more sensitive for -- or specific for FTD. And it's widely used in a lot of registries. It had also been used in some of the clinical trials. And actually, we went to the FDA and they agreed that this is the primary endpoint or primary assessment for the Phase III. So the way we -- actually how we analyze, we have not disclosed this yet because this is a very new design. And I think we don't basically want to provide too much information. But we work with many biostats people, and I think that's, again, what I said, the beauty of the design is that you -- we combine basically a prevention trial and we can see -- we can explore treatment effects across the whole spectrum of disease stages. And I think that's unique here.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#20

Great. So I might come back to AL001 at the end if there's time, but I do want to touch on the rest of the pipeline for a few minutes. So you're also advancing AL101, which is also looking at progranulin. So I guess, could you just talk a little bit about the differentiation between 001 and 101?

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#21

Sure. Be happy to do that. And I'd say the framing for the discussion around 001 and 101 is really to think about this as a progranulin-franchise strategy. The goal here is to maximize the impact of each of these molecules across indications. We know that progranulin has a central role in neurodegeneration and that modulating it as therapeutic potential across a broad range of neurodegenetive diseases. So our goal really with 101 is to have a molecule with a different PK/PD profile that allows us to fine-tune the modulation of progranulin in diseases such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease. And so the differentiation really is more around PK/PD than anything else. And hopefully, that will enable us to have a different formulation that we can then take forward into multiple broader indications in which progranulin biology is equally relevant.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#22

Okay. Great. And when could we -- I know you're running a healthy volunteer study now. So I guess, when can we see that data? And what should -- what sort of biomarker. I mean, I'm sure it's just going to be PK/PD mostly, but what should we look out for in those data?

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#23

Exactly. So that data -- that study is enrolling. And again, in the next 12 months, and I think it will be on the earlier side of 12, we hope to show, again, all of the relevant disease biomarkers, progranulin levels, as evidence of target engagement and then, of course, PK/PD. So I think that's really what you can expect. It should look very similar mechanistically to 001, but the PK/PD differentiation will be evident.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#24

Great. So now I want to move on to the Alzheimer's programs. So right now, you have two clinical stage Alzheimer's programs, 002 and 003. Both of which are partnered with -- or that you have a collaboration with AbbVie. I guess to start off, could you just talk a little bit about the collaboration with AbbVie, kind of the terms and any kind of upcoming decision points they might have on either of those programs before we get into the details of the programs.

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#25

Definitely, I'm going to let Sabah take this one.

Sabah Oney

executive
#26

Yes, absolutely. We signed a collaboration agreement with AbbVie in 2017 and under the terms of that agreement, we're still moving forward with our partnership. And actually, we're very pleased with how the partnership is moving forward. In terms of the overall terms, there was $225 million upfront for the part of the agreement, and there are additional $1 billion in development milestones for these two programs. And on the back end, these programs are partnered on a 50-50 global profit cost share. In terms of the structure, Alector is responsible for the Phase I and Phase II studies. And AL002 program is moving into Phase II and AL003 program currently is advancing in Phase I. And at the end of this Phase II trial, which we call proof of concept, we has an option to opt in into these programs either together or separately. And at that point, there will be about $250 million milestone payment that will turn this collaboration into a Phase III program that is shared 50-50 amongst the companies. And we've been working very collaboratively with our colleagues at AbbVie and their commitment to neuroscience and neurodegeneration is pretty evident for us. So we're pretty excited to move the 002 program into Phase III and continue with 003 program. And looking forward to gathering data from those, and I'll hand it over to Shehnaaz to give you more color to those programs.

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#27

Yes. We couldn't be more excited to be on the brink of initiating our Phase II with AL002. This is a very important target, TREM2, transmembrane receptor protein, which is expressed on a subset of multiple innate immune cells and specifically on microglia. And the data from our Phase I showed it to be safe and well tolerated and also showed evidence of time and engagement, which is what we were expecting to see with soluble TREM2, CSF-soluble TREM2 and CSF1R. So we were enrolling a Phase Ib study. But honestly, we went to FDA, and we discussed this with AbbVie, and we saw no reason to accelerate -- not to accelerate the study, which is what we're doing. So we are going to initiate a randomized placebo-controlled Phase II, which would enroll 80 patients in early stages of the disease, so prodromal to mild. And the design of the trial has been finalized with the primary endpoint being the CDR Sum of Boxes. No surprises there. So this is a study that we hope we'll initiate shortly, and we're very excited to be getting that on the road.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#28

Great. Could you just -- I guess, let's back up maybe a little bit on 002. And I guess, just could you talk a little bit more at a high level on the mechanism? I know you did touch on it, but the mechanism of action, I guess, how you kind of see the interplay with some of the more traditional disease-modifying approaches for Alzheimer's disease and why you think kind of the TREM2 approach is really novel and interesting, given what we've seen with some of the more traditional approaches like amyloid.

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#29

Sure, absolutely. And piggybacking on where we started, which was with human genetics being the basis for this drug discovery and development approach, the human genetics around TREM2 points very strongly to the importance of it in AD because we know here that a complete loss of TREM2 function also leads to a very severe neurodegenerative disease. And that, again, similarly, when you have loss of one copy of the TREM2 gene, it increases the risk for developing Alzheimer's by about 3x, which makes TREM2, effectively, the second highest important risk gene after ApoE. And I know you're very familiar with ApoE. So what we've done is developed an agonistic monoclonal antibody, which is basically an agonist of TREM2. And what we showed from the Phase I was that we're showing great target engagement. It's safe and well tolerated. And when we look at downstream biomarkers like CSF1R, that we are, in fact, having the intended effect. The Phase II, as a traditional Phase II, will investigate a range of doses. So it's a classic dose-ranging study. But we will obviously also be measuring biomarkers like soluble and plasma CS TREM2 level, soluble and other. As well as all the other biomarkers that are relevant in AD, MRI, downstream markers, neurofilament and then the clinical endpoint with the CDR.

Sabah Oney

executive
#30

Yes. And the exciting thing with TREM2 is that it is a checkpoint on the immune cells, right? So you can actually really see in these patients that when the immune system loses its ability to address multiple parallel pathologies, these pathologies actually take over and that leads to the collapse of the neuronal system. And with activating the TREM2 receptor on these immune cells that might be sensing, getting old, not dividing as much and not protecting the neurons as they're supposed to, similar to, as Shehnaaz said, where we see in immuno-oncology, that the TREM2 agonist were actually -- and we have shown this in numerous in vivo studies up till this point, right, preclinical studies that we published actually 2 papers this year already, that you can actually activate and rejuvenate the immune system in the brain. And in return, what you see is that the immune system goes back to doing what it has evolved to do, which is going back to protecting the neurons, removing pathological protein, secreting growth factors and a myriad of other factors, including even modulating the other support cells that bring blood flow back to the brain and so forth. So it is actually a very comprehensive approach. This is not activating the immune system to go after a beta. This is activating the immune system to affect the brain health as a whole. And again, when we started partnering with this program, there was incredible amount of interest because we see TREM2 as now what the next-generation of therapies that could actually hopefully potentially make a difference for the patients that every other approach up till this point has failed.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#31

Great. That makes sense. So just in terms of the Phase II study. So I know you said 80 patients dose-ranging study, primary endpoint CDR-SOB. But could you just talk about just kind of duration? How long is this -- or are these patients going to be dosed? And then also just talk a little bit about COVID-19 and the potential impact on that study, just given that the Phase Ib was impacted by COVID-19.

Robert Paul

executive
#32

Yes. Maybe I can take -- it's actually 265 patients. So it's 80 -- roughly 80 patients per arm. So we have 265 patients in total. We will test 3 different dose levels. The treatment duration will be up to 2 years. And I think that's, for us, important because we want to see -- if we see an effect that this is a durable effect. I think some of the previous study potentially had the flaw to speak that you see maybe an early day effect that that's actually not sustained or sometimes you don't see an effect early on and then you miss the opportunity because you didn't treat long enough and I think that's what we'd really try to avoid. Again, we do all the cognitive assessments that we will -- would also do in the Phase III, the CDR-SOB, of course, is kind of the classic primary endpoint, but we have additional endpoints, clinical endpoints. We will do -- we have substudies. We have substudies in amyloid pet. Actually, all patients need to be amyloid-positive for inclusion, but we also have follow-up amyloid pet scans. We have TAU imaging scans. We also have CSF taps in this substudy. So we will collect a lot of data. And we think that at the end of the study, we will have a very comprehensive data set that will inform us how to do in the Phase III.

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#33

And in terms of COVID mitigation, I can just say that we've learned a lot from the Phase I experience. So some of the things we're doing is increasing the look at global site feasibility. We've stepped up our education programs with neurologists. We've increased our visibility at conferences. We are actually implementing remote monitoring in some trials. As well as additional centralized remote data reviews to ensure quality of the data when patients cannot go on site. We're looking at at-home infusions potentially as a backup option. Again, the plan is only to implement that in the event that a patient is not allowed on site. So there are a number of mitigation efforts that are underway based on our learnings from the Phase I.

Sabah Oney

executive
#34

Yes. And 1 difference between Phase I and our current phase II is that Phase I, we have a global pandemic after the study starts right in the middle of it, right? And it's hard to adjust to that. Whereas where are the Phase IIs and Phase IIIs coming up. We know the reality that there is a global pandemic. So we actually put the mitigation efforts in place as we're designing the study. So that's what we have done for both the Phase II and also the Phase III for AL001 as well.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#35

Okay. Great. So once the first potential update, I know, Robert, you mentioned that the study could -- patients could be in the study for up to 2 years. But I guess, is there potential that we could get an earlier data cut? Or are you going to wait until 2 years have passed before you actually look at the data?

Robert Paul

executive
#36

I mean the -- we -- for us, it's really important to see if the results we see is really sustained. And again, we want to see that we have collected all the data from all the patients across all the 3 different dose levels. There will be interim analysis, but I mean we -- this is mainly to check for safety and of course, let's say, overwhelming results, but we're actually -- we're planning to complete the study and then come basically with the complete data set. We know that sometimes you do interim analysis and then you have to back pedal because the final results could be very different and really want to avoid this one.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#37

Okay. Got it. Makes sense. All right. So then on AL003, I guess, a similar line of questioning, just can you walk us through the mechanism there of kind of SIGLEC 3 and the rationale for targeting SIGLEC 3 in Alzheimer's disease?

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#38

Great. Yes, sure. Certainly. So this is another immune checkpoint. It's an inhibitory receptor, SIGLEC 3, which is expressed in microglia. And it really acts as a break on the immune system, slowing down microglial activity. And what we show and then what we know is that excessive inhibition of the microglia with the particular disease variant of SIGLEC 3 actually leads to a reduction in functioning myeloid cells and so enhanced deposition of A-beta and all of the downstream consequences of that in 80 patients happen, particularly in those that carry this variant. So what we're trying to do here is use a SIGLEC-blocking antibody. That is delivered intravenously to really, if you like, convert from a sort of a risk variant to a protective phenotype. And again, we've showed some preliminary data from a Phase I where we actually see a dose-dependent and long lasting change in SIGLEC 3, indicating that we have target engagement and that was just single dose in healthy volunteers. And so the Phase Ib in Alzheimer's patients is currently ongoing. And our hope is to show data from that study again also in the next 12 months.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#39

Okay. Great. I do want to ask some additional questions on AL001, but before we go back to that, I know you also have a much broader kind of early-stage pipeline, and you also have kind of a growing immuno-oncology pipeline as well. So are there any specific programs kind of within the earlier-stage pipeline that you want to highlight and that you think are particularly interesting?

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#40

Certainly. So MS4A4A is another prominent genetic risk gene, known for late-onset Alzheimer's disease. So -- and that's a program which is close to advancing into the clinic. Again, hopefully, by early next year. And so we're very, very excited about that. And again, the downstream biomarkers associated with MS4A should be very interesting and relevant for showing both target engagement and also kind of an effect on releasing the brakes on the -- basically the immune checkpoint bolstering for that particular program. And then we have an earlier immuno-oncology portfolio, which is coming along nicely, but it is earlier. And I'd say there, the 2 programs to highlight are AL008 and 009. 008 is a novel dual-function antibody that targets the CD47 sub-alpha pathway, which has become very relevant and popular based on the deals that have happened in the space. Recently, it is licensed to Innovent in China. But this molecule has a really unique dual-acting mechanism, which is different to anti -- to a regular anti-CD47s in that it competitively antagonizes the sub-alpha pathway by actually inducing internalization and degradation of the inhibitor receptor on macrophages, but it also engages FCP gamma, which is an activating receptor to promote immunostimulation. So we're excited about the mechanism of this program, and we hope to have it in the clinic in the next, again 12 to 18 months. 009 is a pan-SIGLEC inhibitor, so also a slightly different mechanistic approach to immuno-oncology. And that's a molecule, which is around about at the same sort of stage of development, if you like, or -- as 008. And then behind that, we have probably another 10 additional research targets in both immuno-neurology and immuno-oncology that we're continuing to push forward toward the clinic very actively.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#41

Okay. Great. So then just going back to AL001, I've gotten a few questions that have kind of come in. So I just do want to touch on a few more things. So I guess, could you just talk a little about kind of the translatability between the Phase Ib results and the Phase II results? I mean, I know we saw that one patient who was in the Phase Ib who's now out to like 6 or 7 months as of the AAIC data. So can you just talk about -- I mean, was that trend that you saw with that patient kind of consistent with some of the other patients in the Phase Ib? So, yes, any light that you can shed on that would be great.

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#42

Maybe I'll start and then Robert can jump in. So we show that data on a natural log scale in neurofilament and provided the percentage decreases from baseline to the relevant loss measure time point that we had for full transparency. And I think what was encouraging about that is that 6 of the 8 patients actually did show a decrease in the last major time point. Now obviously, that data was confounded by the fact that some of the patients miss doses. And so we couldn't show the trends for all of the 8 patients. But I think as it relates to the one patient from the case study, that patient was, in fact, the patients that had been on drug for 6 months. And what we really found encouraging there is you saw the decrease in the Phase I portion of the study, then you saw a treatment gap where neurofilament went up, and then followed by a roughly 30% decrease in Phase II went back on drug. And so I think to the extent that, that is a poster child, if you like, for what we would -- the example of a randomized control experiment that you could do in one patient, it's our great hope that, that is exactly the phenotype that we hope to see in the others. But let me stop there and ask Robert to just comment on sort of the trends, if you like, that were observed with the other patients?

Robert Paul

executive
#43

Yes. As Shehnaaz mentioned, why we, so to speak, like the data is not necessarily that we actually see, of course, the decline because that's the one patients where we have the longest data, and we see a lot of fluctuation. So we actually think we have to monitor these patients longer and see the trend over months. And this was to be, of course, very reassuring because that's basically exactly how we think about neurofilament. You see a response and these patients, when you stop treatment, the disease progresses and this was documented by the increase in neurofilament and then after treatment, and it takes a while basically for neurofilament to go down do you see this effect. I mean, again, neurofilament still, I mean, we know there's increase in many different diseases. And it's -- I think one of the most promising biomarkers in neuro for quite a while, specifically because you can measure it in plasma. And we have seen in many diseases where you see a treatment effect clinically that you also see a reduction in neurofilament. But I'm -- but we are still learning. I mean, just, for example, I want to mention the Amylyx trial, with the ALS trial that was published actually last week. And I think that's a great example. I mean, this is really -- it seems we see a clinical effect. We see an statistically significant effect on the clinical endpoint. So this is great news for the community because maybe they actually have a new opportunity for treatment. And they also measure neurofilament. I mean you measure the phosphorylated neurofilament heavy chain, but we know that both correlate well. And actually, they didn't see a change. There was actually no difference between placebo and active, if you look at the paper carefully. Actually, there was -- and what's telling me is either it's because the study was only 24 weeks, half a year, maybe you see the effect later. And there's still some complexity basically in neurofilament. Again, I still think it's a very useful biomarker, but we don't think that we actually know the whole story. And that's, again, the main emphasis or the main goal for the Phase II was always. We want to see safety after chronic treatment. We want to make sure that progranulin is increased on a sustained level, and that's what we showed all the other biomarkers. Specifically, if you give -- if you're taking the -- given the small sample size and the open-label nature is, it is really expert. This is for us to learn. The final verdict, so to speak, will actually -- is the Phase III where we have a placebo-controlled study and powered for a clinical endpoint, and this will give us the final answer. Again, neurofilament is definitely a promising biomarker, and we're -- but we're still in the learning process, and that's what we're doing.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#44

Excellent. No, that was really helpful. So we are pretty much out of time. I mean, I guess we have one minute. So I guess, is there anything else that investors should be aware of that we should be paying attention to, when it comes to updates over the next, let's say, 12-months or other programs that you want to highlight or anything like that?

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#45

I have to say that we continue to be very excited about our portfolio. We really have a broad-based immuno-neurology and immuno-oncology portfolio that continues to look very promising. We're at the leading edge of defining and developing biomarkers that we think will be highly instructive as we think about disease progression in these patients. We couldn't be more excited to be in Phase III, bringing hope to patients with FTD and starting our Phase II in Alzheimer's disease. And we're head down, nose down, focused on execution at this point in time in spite of COVID. And you can expect to see data from us when we have great confidence in our data and when we can present a composite data set. So we look forward to providing the updates to the community early next year.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#46

Excellent. Well, thank you guys so much for taking the time to speak with me today. Your comments have been very insightful and very, very helpful. So thank you again.

Robert Paul

executive
#47

Thank you, Neena, for inviting us.

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#48

Thank you for having us.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#49

Yes. Absolutely. Thanks so much. All right. Bye.

Shehnaaz Suliman

executive
#50

Bye-bye.

Neena Bitritto-Garg

analyst
#51

Bye.

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