Alector, Inc. (ALEC) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
May 24, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Ananda Ghosh
analystGood morning. I welcome you all to today's fireside chat with Alector, a neuroscience company that aims to harness the power of neuroinflammation to combat neuroinflammation. Today, we have with us Alector's CEO, Arnon Rosenthal; and CFO, Marc Grasso. So.
Marc Grasso
executiveHi, Ananda, pleasure to be here with you.
Ananda Ghosh
analystSorry, there is some background happening. Are we good now?
Marc Grasso
executiveI can hear you loud and clear.
Ananda Ghosh
analystOkay. So let me just start begin with asking you -- Hi, [indiscernible] there is some feedback, which I'm getting. Okay. Marc, Arnon, do you -- are you hearing any feedback, just let me know.
Arnon Rosenthal
executiveYes, we can just keep going. It's okay.
Ananda Ghosh
analystOkay, okay. Yes, just making sure. Okay. Sorry for the interruptions. Okay. Let me begin with asking you briefly to introduce the company, its vision, how far have you all come since the inception and what makes Alector exciting?
Marc Grasso
executiveYes. Maybe I'll start on that. Thank you, Ananda, for the question. Just to note, I will be making forward-looking statements, so refer you to our SEC filings for more information there. So the company founded by Arnon, very bold vision to realize a world where we're making brain disorders history and the company has made substantial progress against this vision, including now being in late clinical development for a number of important potentially transformative disease-modifying therapies, including for frontotemporal dementia, for Alzheimer's, and then other settings as well. And it's an exciting time for Alector as we are approaching some major data readouts on these programs. And we're doing it with a very well-resourced experienced team and strong global pharmaceutical partners. So just to put it in context for why is an exciting time. Here, I'm just showing some of the upcoming news flow for the company over the coming years. 2023 is an important year for us and we'll be engaging with the regulatory authorities here very shortly around our pivotal Phase III program, latozinemab in frontotemporal dementia patients with the GRN mutation. We'll be confirming our statistical analysis plans, and we anticipate providing an update post these meetings. In addition, also for latozinemab, we anticipate presenting additional Phase II data from our INFRONT-2 study. And this will include additional patients with FTD-C9 for a longer treatment duration as well as a longer follow-up for our GRN patients. So we're looking forward to that update later this year. Also, this year, we anticipate completing enrollment in our INVOKE-2 Phase II or AL002 in Alzheimer's disease. And we anticipate having top line data from that program by the end of next year. In addition, pending the regulatory discussions we're having, we anticipate that we'll have our pivotal Phase III data readout for latozinemab in FTD-GRN by early 2025 and can have a BLA filing by late 2025. And we're doing this with a strong base, financial resources. We ended the first quarter with $669 million in cash, there's no debt, and that's runway through 2025 and well through all of these milestones. So transforming what is a vision to reality is really an exciting aspect of Alector right now.
Ananda Ghosh
analystGreat. So let's talk about AL001 or latozinemab and the FTD program. With now several companies targeting progranulin in what way Alector is differentiated from other programs?
Arnon Rosenthal
executiveSo let me take that. So far, this program is designed -- is targeting a genetic risk for multiple types of neurodegenerative disorders. And the genetic risk is a secreted immune regulatory protein called progranulin. And if you don't have enough progranulin, you develop different types of degenerative brand disorders. If you have 50% of the normal level, you develop a disease called frontotemporal dementia, which is the most common early onset type of dementia for people under the age of 60. And if you have just a modest reduction in the level of this immune regulatory protein, you are at a higher risk of developing Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease or other types of dementia. So because loss of function of decreased level of progranulin invariably is associated with no other generations, we develop a drug that elevates progranulin. And we did this by blocking at the gradation cascade of progranulin. So progranulin is being degraded constantly. And if you block this degradation, you triple the half-life of progranulin and you can restore progranulin back to normal level in the brain of patients that have insufficient level of progranulin. So we pioneered this field completely, means we opened the field of frontotemporal dementia with progranulin elevating drug show that it can work in the clinic. And as a result, we are now in a very advanced stages of pivotal Phase III, which, as Marc said, we are going to have data in the early 2025, and we are -- if pending the positive data, we will apply for BLA in 2025. So we are years ahead of everyone else, like everyone else that's trying to elevate progranulin is in early clinical trial stages, like in a Phase I is just starting. So we are years ahead of everyone. So we are clearly first-in-class. We also think that we are best-in-class because our drug is designed to elevate the endogenous protein, the natural physiological protein in the right place in the brain, and it's designed to elevate it, adjusting the right amount, like twofold in order to restore it back to normal. We are not over-elevating, which could lead to adverse effects, and we are not under-elevating. So we are elevating in the right place. We already know that our drug is very safe. I mean, there were really no drug-related adverse effects in sort of dozens or hundreds of patients. So we have a safe drug that restore this missing protein back to normal level. And we see, again, indications of efficacy, which we are going to discuss. So we think we are way ahead of everyone. We have the -- and we think that we have the best drug.
Ananda Ghosh
analystGreat. So how has the biology been proven so far through your INFRONT trial?
Arnon Rosenthal
executiveSo when we started when we took the drug to human after testing the drug in healthy volunteers for safety and for ability to elevate the level of progranulin, we did a Phase II study. And in the Phase II study, we took patients that have genetic mutations in progranulin. They have 50% of the normal level. And as a result, they have frontotemporal dementia, which manifests in sort of rapid brain tissue loss and multiple aspects of cognitive behavioral and speech deficit. And this is a lethal disease that basically kills you within 7 to 10 years after diagnosis. So what we have seen in the open-label Phase II compared to historical control is that we can restore multiple biomarkers back to normal level. We appear to slow down brain tissue loss by almost by about 50% based on some measurements. And most importantly, we can slow down cognitive decline by approximately 50% over 12 months, which is very profound for no other generation. Like in Alzheimer's disease, for example, the current drugs are talking about 27% to 30% slowdown in cognitive decline over 18 months. We see approximately 50% slowdown over 12 months. So we see very profound efficacy based on this open-label Phase II study. So we have a lot of indications that the drug is active.
Ananda Ghosh
analystGreat. Let's talk about the biomarker data from INFRONT-2, be progranulin or NfL, or most importantly, GFAP, it indicates that AL001 robustly hits the target. Given the regulatory environment, how confident are you with the data so far and how [indiscernible] surrounding the biomarker [indiscernible]?
Arnon Rosenthal
executiveSo we are very excited about the data, obviously, because we -- again, as you mentioned, the drug appeared to be sort of very safe. We don't see any drug mediated adverse effect of patients that have been treated almost 2 years -- sort of over 2 years now, and we see normalizations of multiple disease features. I mean, as you saw -- we see normalization of GFAP. GFAP is a biomarker that reflects disease state or inflammation, and it's very elevated in the disease and our drug brings it back to normal level. We see normalizations of multiple lysosomal biomarkers, basically the lysosomes, the entity in the brain that degrade misfolded proteins is not functional in this disease, and we see normalization of this basically trash compactor or trash degrader, we see normalization of inflammatory biomarkers. Basically, all the abnormal pathology in the brain seems to be restored, reversed back to normal. So we think that there are multiple indications of drug activity. We are sort of -- as I said, we are at the end stages of the advanced stages of pivotal trial. Our goal is to go for a full approval based on clinical endpoints. We think that we will see significant slowdown in cognitive decline. So this will be a full approval. But as a backup, we think that we have multiple biomarkers that would support accelerated approval based on surrogate biomarkers. And as you mentioned, the surrogate biomarkers will be, for example, GFAP, which was used, for example, in lecanemab, the anti Abeta Alzheimer's drug that was sort of being acceleratedly approved recently. We'll have volumetric MRI data, which shows the rate of brain tissue loss, which is a direct reflection of disease progression and cognitive decline, and we'll have multiple other biomarkers. So we'll have a very broad package of biomarker to support accelerated approval in case our clinical endpoints sort of are not strong enough. But again, our goal and our sort of prediction or anticipation is that the clinical readout will be robust enough based on what we see in the Phase II and that we can apply for full approval based on the clinical endpoints that the FDA agreed to already.
Ananda Ghosh
analystGot it. Great. So just following up on the previous question. Within the recent approvals in [indiscernible], the role of natural history data has come to prominence. Where do you see the value of GENFI data set compared to other disease natural history data and how its GENFI dataset or any [indiscernible] with the FTD program?
Arnon Rosenthal
executiveYes, sort of GENFI and FTD are basically, as you said, a measurement of historical progression of the disease, so academic investigators are following multiple patients with FTD. What's relevant for us is FTD is the progranulin mutation, and they monitor the rate of disease progression, the rate of brain tissue loss with volumetric MRI and the changes in multiple biomarkers. And we are really -- we work very closely with this consortia, and we rely very heavily on the database, first for our Phase II, basically our Phase II historical controls were derived from this consortia. And much of our clinical trial design was based on the data of disease progression and variability from this historical controls. So the historical controls definitely help us interpret the data in the Phase II, design the Phase III trial, and we are even sort of looking at ways to include the historical control as part of our package in Phase III to strengthen the data, means. Our Phase III does have placebo controlled, but if you have additional historical control data, it will strengthen. So in general, I think that this historical control sort of datas are very helpful in drug discovery and drug approvals.
Ananda Ghosh
analystGot it. Very nice. Let's shift gear to the C9orf72 trial. Can you briefly explain the rationale behind the trial and what makes the preliminary data exciting as it mirrors some of the data from the INFRONT-2?
Arnon Rosenthal
executiveYes, absolutely. So C9orf is another genetic mutation that leads to the development of frontotemporal dementia or ALS. So people that have amplification of nucleotides in the C9orf genes invariably develop FTD before the age of 60 or they, in some cases, develop ALS. So this is another genetic cause for FTD. In this genetic cause, the level of progranulin is more or less normal. There are sort of maybe slight decrease in the level of progranulin, but there are genetic evidence showing that even modest reduction in progranulin leads to accelerate disease progression. So people that have the C9orf mutations and other mutations in progranulin that reduces the level of progranulin just by 15% to 20%, have much faster disease progression compared to people that don't have progranulin mutation. And in addition, there are animal model data showing that the misfolded proteins that is downstream of C9orf, C9orf mutation carriers, the typifying misfolded protein is another protein called TDP-43. So every patient that have C9orf mutations also have TDP-43 misfolded protein. So in Alzheimer's disease, the misfolded protein is Abeta and tau in FTD, with C9orf mutations, all of these progranulin mutations, the misfolded protein is TDP-43. And there are animal model data showing that elevation of progranulin can counteract TDP-43 pathology in the disease model. So progranulin, basically disconnect between C9orf and TDP-43. It reduces the level of misfolded TDP protein and it protects nerve cells from the toxicity associated with TDP-43. So there are both animal model data and genetic data justifying the idea of elevating progranulin in diseases with C9orf mutations. So we tested this idea in the clinic with FTD patients that developed FTD because of C9orf mutation. This was part of our Phase II open-label study. And again, very excitingly, we saw that we were able to reduce disease biomarkers like GFAP and we were able to slow down cognitive decline by over 50% over 12 months period compared to, again, natural history from the GENFI cohort. So this study is excited because it suggests that progranulin is rate-limiting even if it's in normal levels in patients. So if you elevate progranulin twofold above normal level, you elicit significant disease protection. And this really, in our view, mitigate the risk to go after many other neurodegenerative diseases, which have normal level of progranulin, including Alzheimer's disease. And we are indeed starting Alzheimer's disease study either later this year or early next year together with GSK, going after Parkinson's disease, going after ALS. So we think that the C9orf showing, again, a drug activity and we think drug efficacy, open our drug to a really broad range of neurodegenerative disorders that we are exploring now.
Ananda Ghosh
analystGot it. Let's now move to the TREM2 program. You are one of the pioneers in bringing TREM2 activating antibody to the clinic. What was the rationale behind choosing the target and the indication?
Arnon Rosenthal
executiveSo we really -- means we were not one of the pioneers, we were the pioneers that means we were the first to develop this drug, first in the clinic and are still years ahead of everyone else. So TREM2 is really part of our broad approach to really recruit the brain immune system to counteract node neurodegeneration. So broadly, what we do is very similar to immuno-oncology and what really revolutionized cancer in the recent years is that instead of killing cancer directly, we now recruit the immune system to counteract to cancer. And we do the exact same thing instead of going after individual pathologies, like Abeta or tau, we recruit the brain immune system to do the work for us. And TREM2 is basically an immune checkpoint for the brain immune system, a cell type called microglia. And there are very strong genetic reasons to target TREM2. TREM2 is an activating checkpoint for the microglia. So people that have genetic mutations that deprived them of TREM2 completely, develop dementia by the age of 40 at 100% penetrants. Basically, every individual that miss, that don't have the TREM2 gene, developed early onset dementia. Likewise, people that have one good and one bad copy of TREM2 have 3 to 4x higher risk of developing Alzheimer's disease. It's a similar risk of -- that you would have if you have one copy of ApoE4, which is the most famous risk gene for Alzheimer's disease. So loss of function of TREM2 invariably leads to dementia. And conversely, in animal models, people show that if you overexpress TREM2, you protect from dementia. So there are both gain and loss of function rationale, like the loss of function is human genetics, the gain of function is animal models. So we develop a drug that activate and enhance the functionality of TREM2. And we showed in multiple animal models that this drug is effective. In an Alzheimer's model, this drug protect nerve cells from damage caused by Abeta pathology, it improves behavioral deficits, it compact the Abeta plaques, it really counteracts the Abeta plaque pathology, and it's generally beneficial. And we also show that our drug is effective in a model for multiple sclerosis because in multiple sclerosis, what you need is to clear the myelin debris before you can regenerate the myelin. And if you activate TREM2, you enhance the microglia, the microglia are the garbage collector in the brain, you accelerate the myelin debris clearance and then you enable regeneration. So TREM2 activating drug really recruit the immune system in the brain to clear the brain for multiple misfolded protein and to exert multiple additional beneficial effects. So we took the drug, again, from the animal models to the clinic and in healthy volunteers, we show that we indeed are able to engage the target and unable to -- and able -- sorry, able to engage the target and able to recruit the immune system in the brain based on multiple biomarkers. And now we are in the end stages of our Phase II in Alzheimer's patients, which is double-blinded, placebo-controlled. And by the end of 2024, we will know if this drug works. If this general approach of recruiting the brain immune system to cure neurodegeneration is effective. And in our sort of hope and expectation is that this approach will be as transformative for neurodegeneration as immuno-oncology is for cancer.
Ananda Ghosh
analystGreat. So from the time you started the TREM2 program, the landscape of AD immunotherapy has dramatically changed, as we know. So how do you see the development surrounding the anti-amyloids with respect to your TREM2 program? And how and where does TREM2 fit in the landscape?
Arnon Rosenthal
executiveYes. So the field is changing in a way that they are probably going to be at least 3 accelerated approval or eventually full approval drugs that all target that beta-amyloid misfolded protein in Alzheimer's disease. All these drugs seem to have like a glass ceiling of efficacy of around 30% over 18 months. So it's really exciting for the field that there is a drug that show some efficacy in Alzheimer's disease, but the efficacy is still very modest and there is a lot of room for improvement. We think that our drug could have sort of better efficacy, where we have indications that our drug can also remove beta-amyloid based on ARIA events that we can talk about in a minute. But the mechanism of action of our drug is much broader than just removing beta-amyloid. The immune system in the brain which we are targeting was shown to regulate the connections between nerve cells and optimize them. It regulates all the other support cells in the brain that replace the myelin, the plastic wrapping on the cells, it regulates the cells that [indiscernible] the nerve cells, it regulates the vasculature in the brain. So we expect very broad beneficial effects of our drug way beyond removal of beta-amyloid. And as a result, we expect better efficacy with regard to magnitude. So we think that our drug will have a room as a stand-alone drug with at least as good likely better efficacy. And also very importantly, our drug will be able to work in combination with the approved anti-Abeta drugs. What the Abeta drugs are doing, they really tag the misfolded protein, they just bind the misfolded protein and then they call the immune system, the microglia that we are targeting to remove to dislodge the misfolded protein. So the immune system in the brain are really the excavator. These are the cells that remove the misfolded protein. Without them, the anti-Abeta antibodies don't work at all, they are just binding to the misfolded protein, but they don't prevent the toxicity, they don't cause removal. You need the immune system in the brain to remove the misfolded proteins. And if the immune system in the brain is aging, senescing, is not functional, this approach is not going to work well. So we have a drug that reprogram and hence, increase the number of the excavators, the immune system in the brain. It's a natural combination, natural partnership with anti-Abeta antibodies. So the combination, I think, has a lot of potential to really lead to a much more potent therapy for Alzheimer's disease.
Ananda Ghosh
analystRight. And you mentioned about ARIA, what's your thought about ARIA?
Arnon Rosenthal
executiveSo as you know, all the anti-Abeta antibodies, there have been 3 of them now, at least 4 of them that were tested, and in every case where there is removal of beta-amyloid from the Alzheimer's brain, there is also an event called ARIA, which is amyloid-related imaging abnormality that can be observed with MRI. So in most of the cases, it's just an MRI observation. There is no clinical symptoms, but you see sort of changes on MRI in the brain parenchyma and sometimes around the vasculature. And so far, every drug that remove Abeta is also associated with this MRI abnormalities. And we, with our 002 TREM2 drug, we also see this MRI abnormalities, which are very -- in a very similar characteristics to the anti-Abeta antibodies like very similar in the time of appearance, in the fact that they are reversible, in the fact that they respond to the same drugs. And in the fact that they are more prevalent in ApoE4 carriers. So the ARIA events that we see with our drug in appearance are very similar to the ARIAs that all the anti-Abeta-antibodies show. So from this, we extrapolate that our drug may also remove beta-amyloid to a similar degree. So this is an exciting signal for us that in addition to engaging the immune system, we also are already having indications that we may remove beta-amyloid. And again, removal of beta-amyloid will be just the tip of the iceberg. We think that our drug is going to do many more beneficial things beyond removing of a single misfolded protein. So we are very excited to see the -- to unblind the data and see the cognitive efficacy, the removal of beta-amyloid, the effect on tau pathology, the effect on brain tissue loss. So we think that, again, we have multiple biomarkers and clinical evidence that the drug is active, and we are very excited to see the data at the end of 2024.
Ananda Ghosh
analystVery nice. So what is the data that might be most important for Alector, so that which might be the decision point where you decide that the drug is ready to move to the Phase III program?
Arnon Rosenthal
executiveYes. So it will be the sort of the entire package. So we are looking at 4 different clinical endpoints like cognitive endpoints, the CDR and [indiscernible] and like basically, there are multiple different cognitive endpoints, and we'll see if there is any positive trend there. So this will be one very important thing. We are looking at multiple biomarkers. We are looking at Abeta 40 and 42 in the CSF and serum. We are looking at different forms of tau in the CSF and serum. We are looking at tau and Abeta by PET imaging in the brains. We are looking at MRI sort of brain tissue volume. So it's going to be sort of an extended package of liquid biomarkers, imaging and cognitive data that will tell us whether we have an active drug that justify go into Phase II. And as you know, this program is partnered with AbbVie, it's a 50-50 profit share. We received $205 million cash, $20 million in stocks when the partnership was formed, and AbbVie has an option to join the drug after the end of Phase II. So basically, in early 2025, they will have to decide whether they participate in the drug development. If they participate, they have to pay us $250 million opt-in fees and then they are going to do the Phase III and it's going to be a 50-50 profit share worldwide. So we more or less agreed on what package will be required for AbbVie to decide on their opt-in. And again, it's -- they don't expect even a full clinical data. They just want to see a trend in clinical benefit and a combination of all the biomarkers that we'll just confirm going into Phase III.
Ananda Ghosh
analystGot it. And let's talk briefly about your -- like the way -- it's still early, but still, I think it will help the community to understand. Like how different or similar might is 002 Phase III design be from other Abeta immunotherapies, especially in the context of -- with the current Abeta amyloid, it looks like that they have figured out a way to perfect the trial design.
Arnon Rosenthal
executiveYes. So yes -- so yes, absolutely, means we are going to go after early stage of Alzheimer's disease, and we are improving the clinical trials based on what we see. For example, it's now -- sort of there are more and more evidence that blood biomarkers for tau could possibly substitute PET imaging. So we are doing many more sort of liquid biomarkers, which are much simpler and you can take them much more frequently. We are looking at all sort of different companies are using different cognitive tests, not sort of beyond the standard CDR, sum of boxes, and sort of we are looking at multiple cognitive readouts. We are looking at maybe stratify patients more precisely based on the level of tau. And we are still in discussions, but we are thinking of how to include people that are on Abeta therapy in our trials. So it's most likely that basically we will just include everyone that's on stable Abeta therapy in our trial, and we'll just stratify them to control and to our treated group. The same way that we now do for the symptomatic [indiscernible] for example. So basically, everyone that's on current Alzheimer therapy will be included in the trial. And we think that it's -- it will be interesting because, as you said, we see ARIA early on in the trial and the anti-Abeta therapeutics see ARIAs early on. And the ARIA usually appears once, and that means it's rarely repeats like with chronic trial. So once Abeta -- once patients are on stable Abeta treatment and thereafter the ARIA phase means we could treat with our drugs, and hopefully, there will be no additional ARIAs. So we think that the combination treatment is very doable. And again, it will be interesting to see if there is synergy and efficacy with the combination.
Ananda Ghosh
analystSure.
Arnon Rosenthal
executiveAnd so again, we are talking -- we are still planning it. It's still early days and -- but we're absolutely going to learn a lot from the ongoing Phase III trials.
Ananda Ghosh
analystGot it. Let's delve a little bit on the ARIA, barring a few cases of ARIA in the ApoE4 homozygous patients, the trial has so far gone quite smoothly. So what has been your take on ARIA-E concerning the TREM2 program as you were thinking through Phase II, Phase III or beyond?
Arnon Rosenthal
executiveYes, means, so -- yes, we saw higher incidence of ARIA in people that are homozygous for the ApoE4 variants. These are about, I don't know, 12% of the Alzheimer's population. In order to continue like the trial without changing the protocol, we decided to remove this patient population for now, but we are still including heterozygous, people have one copy of ApoE4, which is probably 70% of the Alzheimer's population. So our trial is now composed of ApoE4 heterozygotes and ApoE3 and ApoE2. We think that sort of the removal of ApoE4 is just for -- was primarily for operational convenience. We just wanted to get to the end of the Phase II as quickly as possible. We are thinking of ways of bringing the ApoE4 heterozygotes back to the trial and probably we'll have to do a slower dose drug -- dose escalation, just a longer drug dose escalation to mitigate the ARIA. And we are -- our plan is probably as part of the Phase III or as a small side study to bring the ApoE4 homozygous back to the study. We think that, again, that ApoE4 heterozygotes could still benefit from the drug that, again, the ARIA may represent aggressive removal of beta-amyloid from blood vessels that reduce -- that leads to some microhemorrhages and the ARIA events. So we are not giving up on the ApoE4 homozygous. We just delayed testing them, so we can really see if the drug works as fast as possible.
Ananda Ghosh
analystCorrect. Very helpful. So that kind of brings us to the last question for this webinar. Where do you see Alector in the next 5 years?
Marc Grasso
executiveYes. Maybe I'll take a shot at that, Ananda. It's an exciting time for the company. And as Arnon was articulating both for progranulin elevation and TREM2 activation, we're by far the most advanced in clinical development already. And we want to continue to progress those programs through key derisking events over the next 5 years. And there's some exciting ones, including major data readouts, potential regulatory approvals, commercial launch. We've transformed this company from pioneering science and systematically exploring this microglial hypothesis into being now a late-stage clinical development company, and we look forward to continuing to progress the company into a commercial company and with major transformative therapies in the context of neurodegenerative disease. And it's a very exciting time, and we're doing it as Arnon had previously noted with very exciting science, very exciting assets and strong partners and major areas of unmet need that are desperate for additional therapies, and we think our approach is one that's going to be additive to the existing approaches that are out there.
Arnon Rosenthal
executiveYes. So in the next 2 years, we will have positive -- sort of hopefully positive or like we will have data in sort of 2 major clinical trials if we see in 2024, if we see positive data or TREM2, it could transform the Alzheimer's disease field and could expand to other neurodegenerative disorders. In early 2025, we will have positive data, hopefully for the frontotemporal dementia. And again, it could expand the drug for many other nondegenerative diseases. So in 5 years, we will have -- if all goes according to our plan, we'll have 2 approved drugs, at least for major degenerative indications. We will be very advanced in -- we'll have -- again, we'll have clinical data with the progranulin elevating drug in Alzheimer's disease, possibly in Parkinson's disease, possibly in ALS. We'll have a slew of new drugs that we are developing that are now in sort of preclinical stages. So we think we will be in a very strong position to really treat multiple neurodegenerative diseases with multiple drugs and will be revenue-generating company. Again, that's sort of our vision. And I think if things go as planned, again, we will sell the progranulin for FTD in the U.S. We will be able to expand the progranulin elevating drugs for other types of frontotemporal dementia like sporadic frontotemporal dementia is 150,000 people. We think that the drug is also -- could be effective for ALS, which is another significant population. At the same time, AbbVie will develop the drug for AD and PD. And again, if we see positive data, it would be huge markets. And so GSK will develop the drug for AD and PD. And at the same time, AbbVie will be in the midst of Phase III for TREM2. So I think we'll be in a very good like position with multiple approved drugs and a very robust pipeline.
Ananda Ghosh
analystVery nice. I think with that, we kind of come to the end of the fireside chat, I think it was very helpful for the investment community in general and for ourselves also to get a broad insight on what to expect as -- in the next 2 years in the Alector. Thanks so much.
Marc Grasso
executiveGreat. Thank you, Ananda.
Arnon Rosenthal
executiveThank you.
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