Alkem Laboratories Limited (ALKEM) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 7, 2020

National Stock Exchange of India IN Health Care Pharmaceuticals earnings 46 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Welcome to the 1Q FY '21 Earnings Call of Alkem Laboratories. From the management side, we have Mr. Sandeep Singh, Managing Director; Mr. Rajesh Dubey, Chief Financial Officer; Mr. Amit Ghare, President, International Business; Mr. Yogesh Kaushal, Senior Vice President, Chronic division; and Mr. Gagan Borana from Investor Relations. Over to you, Gagan.

Gagan Borana

executive
#2

Thank you, Vishal. Good evening, everybody, and thank you for taking out time and joining us for Alkem Laboratories' Q1 FY '21 Earnings call. Earlier during the day, we have released our financial results and the same are also posted on our website. To discuss the business performance and outlook going forward we have on this call, the senior management team of Alkem. Before I proceed with this call, I would like to remind everybody that the call is being recorded and the call transcript will be made available on our website as well. I would also like to add that today's discussion may include forward-looking statements and the same must be viewed in conjunction with the risks that our business faces. After the end of this call, if any of your queries remain unanswered, please feel free to get in touch with me. With this, I would like to hand over the call to Mr. Sandeep Singh to present the key highlights of the quarter and the strategy going forward. Over to you, sir.

Sandeep Singh

executive
#3

Thank you, Gagan. Good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining us for the quarter 1 FY '21 results. I would briefly touch upon the key performance highlights of the quarter gone by and would then leave the floor open for Q&A. The past 3 months ending June 2020 have been significantly impacted by lockdowns imposed across the globe in order to control the threat of novel coronavirus. It has had a deep socioeconomic impact, which has had its bearing across the industries. Talking about the health care and pharmaceutical industry, deferment of surgery significantly lowered footfalls at the hospital OPDs. And the shutdown of private clinics by doctors has had a major impact on the new prescription generation, which is an important lever of our growth. The same is reflected in the secondary sales data reported by IQVIA, in which the India Pharma market reported a year-on-year decline of about 5% during the quarter gone by. The decline was steeper in acute therapies like anti-infectives, gastrointestinal and pain management where the dependence on new prescription is even more. Accordingly, these therapies posted a decline of 8% to 25% year-on-year during the quarter. In this challenging environment, I am pleased to share the company's acute care portfolio outperformed the market and retained its leading position and market share. Further in the chronic therapies of cardiac and anti-diabetes, the company grew faster than the market. Given that the company has a significant higher share of its India sales coming from acute therapies, the company's domestic sales recorded a year-on-year decline of 5.5%. Coming to our international business. I'm happy to share that during the quarter, our international business registered a strong growth of 32.8%, mainly led by our U.S. business, which grew by 38.3%. The growth in U.S. business during the quarter in dollar terms was also strong at about 28%. The growth was largely driven by new product launches, coupled with market share gains in some of our existing products. Talking about profit margins during the quarter, the company's gross margin expanded by 190 basis points. During the quarter, the company also posted research milestone income of $3.5 million in other operating income. This, along with savings in marketing and other expenses during the quarter helped EBITDA margin show significant improvement to 26.6% compared to 14.3% last year. Our effort towards productivity improvement and process optimization continues on an ongoing basis. R&D is an important pillar of our growth. During the quarter, we invested INR 119 crores in R&D, which is around 5.9% of our operating revenue. We filed 4 ANDAs with the U.S. FDA and received 2 approvals, which includes 1 tentative approval. With this, we now have a fairly strong pipeline of 148 (sic) [ 146 ] ANDAs already filed with U.S. FDA, with nearly half of them yet to be commercialized. Finally, new product approvals and the commercialization would be a key focus to drive growth in U.S. market. In terms of regulatory status of our manufacturing facilities, all our 6 manufacturing facilities in India and U.S. supplying to the U.S. market have received EIR on date. We continue to invest in our people and technology to ensure facilities comply global regulatory cGMP standards. Going forward, while it is difficult to predict how the situation will unfold, we are taking all the necessary steps to ensure that the safety of our employees is not compromised, and at the same time, production, supply chain and distribution of our products are not impacted adversely. We are also embracing various digital platforms to reach out to our medical fraternity and health care providers. I hope we recover soon from this pandemic and emerge stronger. Thank you for listening. With this, I would like to open the floor for Q&A.

Operator

operator
#4

[Operator Instructions] We take the first question from the line of Saion Mukherjee from Nomura.

Saion Mukherjee

analyst
#5

So then just 1 question I had on the domestic market. Can you take us through adjusted for the spillover sales from the previous quarter? How the momentum has been in, say, April, May, June, and what you're seeing in July? And a similar assessment on the cost side, how the costs are ramping up and where they are currently? And secondly, related to that, going forward, how should we think when normalization comes, do you expect the cost base to recover fully or you think it would settle at a lower level and if you can quantify that?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#6

Saion, what I will do is on the cutoff and those questions, I will let Mr. Dubey, our CFO, answer. What I'll do is answer you on the second part of the question, like July and how do we see things going forward. So as you know, that in the first couple of months, they were the most severely impacted by the lockdown. So compared to that, yes, July seems better. And slowly and surely, I think the OPDs and everything else open up, because surgeries and all that cannot be held indefinitely postponed. So I think markets are opening up. But again, Saion, it's difficult to say if it comes in waves, if there is a lockdown again, then we can't help it. I think a positive going forward, I think the worst is perhaps behind us. And in quarter 1, because of the lockdown, the expenditure on marketing front was also significantly lower, not just by design, but by default, we could not do it because of the lockdown. Mr. Dubey, on the questions on how much sales was normalized, if you can answer?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#7

Sure. Sure. So Saion, you'll be recollecting in our last meeting, actually, we said for the first time in financial year and quarter, there was spillover of somewhere close to INR 143 crores sales in quarter 1 of 2021. So we got INR 144 crores in this quarter. So whereas there is a significant portion spillover from June to July also. So -- but since this has happened for only first time, because of COVID, we were not able to complete dispatches and delivery has not happened. So revenue recognition, it did not happen. So that advantage, it has come in quarter 1. And that is a part of one-off items also. And the rest of the carryforward and everything is normal, and that happens every time. So besides this advantage in quarter 1, rest of the thing is normal. As far as cost impact on gross margin is concerned, yes, there is a negative impact of increase of cost of API in quarter 1. That is not very significant. It's -- in some basis point only, but of course, that is getting offset against our NRV realization also. So Saion, do you expect something more besides this?

Saion Mukherjee

analyst
#8

Also I wanted your comment on the cost front. So how are the costs ramping up? And when you look at June or July, how are the costs versus what they used to be pre COVID level?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#9

So I think going forward, we don't see any significant increase in cost. So it is going to be normalized kind of cost except -- yes. But on marketing spend and all these, since in quarter 1, more or less, there were no marketing spend or no expenditure happening on sales and marketing. That has started. Of course, quarter 1, that also we should consider as one-off only whatever marketing spend saving has happened. From quarter 2 onwards unwinding is going to happen because our activities, it has already started, and quickly. I think quarter 2 itself only will see more or less closer to normalcy and quarter 3, quarter 4 onwards, we don't see any difference.

Operator

operator
#10

We take the next question from the line of Aditya Khemka from DSP Mutual Fund.

Aditya Khemka

analyst
#11

Sandeep, can you talk a bit about your trade generic business in first quarter FY '21? What was the growth like? And did it benefit from the lockdown?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#12

Yes. Yes. So Aditya, trade generics did well for us. It's 1 of the things which helped us drive through this lockdown. So it grew a very healthy double-digit percentage growth, I would say, okay, Aditya. And yes, it benefited from lockdown. I think trade generics has picked up for most of the players, I would say. We have always been in the forefront of trade generics. We kind of started this as 1 of the pioneers and this is benefiting us. So we have tremendous reach and franchisee with wholesalers and stockists. And also we should not face it trade generics is a classification in that way, but they have pretty strong brand recall with the customer and consumer itself. So those things greatly benefited us during the lockdown.

Aditya Khemka

analyst
#13

Understood. Dubey, sir, just 1 question for you also. If I look at our annual report, the FY '20 total traveling expenses and sales and marketing expenses put together is about INR 800 crores. That translates to about INR 200 crores a quarter. Now when I look at your quarterly numbers for this quarter, the other expenses numbers versus the average of INR 500 crores that we did for, let's say, FY '20 per quarter, we have done INR 340 crores. So it is lower by INR 150 crores than the normal run rate. Is it fair to say that out of this -- so this INR 150 crores saving is almost all of it has come from traveling and sales and marketing expenses?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#14

So majority, yes. You're right. Majority of saving, it is on account of sales and marketing and traveling. Of course, traveling, it did not happen only because all the cycle meetings and all these things, whatever is planned in Q1, it never happened. So you are very correct. And more or less -- number, what you are indicating, I think more or less that number also is very close.

Aditya Khemka

analyst
#15

On same lines, Dubey sir, freight forwarding and transportation was about INR 225 crores last year. My understanding is this year, your freight forwarding costs would have also gone up, right? Given the increase in transportation cost. Do you have any understanding of what the impact would have been?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#16

Yes, initially, freight, it was a little bit on higher side because of COVID lockdowns and the scarcity of transporters and carting agents and all this. But gradually, it has come to normal. It is going along with volume. So most of the time, it depends what kind of volume you are having. I think there is no major difference in that. And whatever percentage it was happening as a percentage to sales, we don't see any abnormality currently.

Aditya Khemka

analyst
#17

Right. One last question. What is our annual budget for R&D for this year, Dubey sir?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#18

Annual budget for R&D is somewhere, 6% of our revenue.

Aditya Khemka

analyst
#19

Which is what we did this quarter as well, right?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#20

Yes, absolutely.

Aditya Khemka

analyst
#21

And what was our free cash flow this quarter, first quarter? FY '21?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#22

Now we are away from debt, this much, I would like to say. We do have positive cash with us.

Operator

operator
#23

We take next question from the line of Nikhil Mathur from AMBIT Capital.

Nikhil Mathur

analyst
#24

So Sandeep, I just had this question. So now it is almost third or fourth quarter where the performance has been quite good. And on multiple line items be it on the sales side, the gross margin, operating expenses, the company has been doing well on multiple of these line items in the last 2, 3 quarters. Does anything worry you, especially if I look at the way gross margin has shaped up, but is now around 63%. And in the past, whenever -- when there have been issues in terms of sourcing from China or the rest have enough, the gross margins have also been in the range of 60%, 61% or at times even lower at 50%, 55% as well. So does that -- is there a cause for concern that the gross margin are kind of at elevated levels and hence, these might not be sustainable over the next coming quarters and years?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#25

Yes. No. See, it's a good question. See, I think gross margins are good, but I will not classify them as unsustainable. What's happening, we are building the chronic business. And U.S. business, we always maintained that with better products coming in, our gross margin will start looking better. We have always said that right from the IPO. I think what's happening there, those 2 things are playing up. And we have a better product mix. So you know that things like semi-chronic brands in India like multivitamins, and nutritions have gone up in the COVID times. So it's because of that, gross margin is looking better. I will not say that they are elevated or it's just one-off or temporary. I will not say that.

Nikhil Mathur

analyst
#26

So just I want to clarify on 1Q gross margin. So the spillover sales that has been recorded in 1Q. The raw material costs would have been booked in 4Q itself. And then the average of the 2 quarters is what the more normalized gross margin is looking like?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#27

So as far as gross margin on spillover is concerned, I don't see any abnormality in that. Whatever gross margin we have that gross margin it was on our spillover also.

Nikhil Mathur

analyst
#28

Okay. Okay. And another question that I have is that. So what happens -- what we have seen over the last 3 to 5 years is that R&D as positive of sales has continued to trend up. It is now around 6% versus what it was 3% to 4%, 5, 6 years back. But we are in some sort of CapEx down trend. CapEx was elevated in about FY '19. But in FY '20 and given what -- in FY '19, given what the guidance was in FY '20, it seems that CapEx would be fairly low in FY '20. So when is it really, the next stage of capital investment the company would again embark on, which would be, say much more than what the current run rate of CapEx is? Can you give some guidance there?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#29

Yes. But keep in mind, it's just a guidance because we really don't know when the next trigger comes in. I think over the next 3 years, there's no need for us to embark on any above-average CapEx. I think we will be maintaining what we are maintaining. We have sufficient capacity in terms of utilization is not very high. We don't need to put anything aggressive for the next 3 years at least. And we will need to get into CapEx, only when we decide to pick up our next growth area like sterile or some complex generics or things like that, which is not the plan as of now. We are still working on the R&D. So nothing for the next 3 years.

Nikhil Mathur

analyst
#30

Okay. Okay. And just final question, if I may squeeze in. Can you help us understand the status of the Indore plant? It's a U.S. focused plant, right? And when would it start contributing? Or has it already started to contribute? And what levels we are at?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#31

So to be honest, it's a very small plant right now. It's going to start by next year. I mean -- yes, next year, typically, not before that. And it will take time to ramp up, and that's the idea as well. It's not going to have a meaningful production of part of the U.S. sales in the next 3 years.

Operator

operator
#32

The next question from the line of Prakash Agarwal from Axis Capital.

Prakash Agarwal

analyst
#33

Congratulations on very good set of numbers. Just trying to understand your guidance, which you gave in Q4. So you talked about 100 to 200 basis point margin improvement. So clearly, Q1 is a super performance now. How do we see the sustainable margins going forward?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#34

I would like to say that this time, our margins are slightly elevated in terms of there were some one-offs like the sales cutoff. The marketing expenditure we could not do too much. So I would say the same, that we would like to maintain that guidance, Prakash. Maybe next quarter, you can ask more specifically, but because we really cannot see how things will pan out.

Prakash Agarwal

analyst
#35

So let me ask you, like other expenses. So you were doing about 17%, 18% of sales, which has dropped to 11% of sales. As Dubey sir said, it has picked up in June, July. So what is the level that we expect starting from Q2?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#36

Exact numbers we'd like to avoid, Prakash, but...

Prakash Agarwal

analyst
#37

No, just in general, sir.

Sandeep Singh

executive
#38

There will be a significant pickup in expenditure on the sales and marketing front from quarter 2.

Prakash Agarwal

analyst
#39

Which has already started, you were saying, from June onwards only so...

Sandeep Singh

executive
#40

From more like July, yes, I would say, not June. More go from July.

Prakash Agarwal

analyst
#41

Yes. Okay. Fair enough. And gross margins, trying to understand little better. So unlike in the past 8 quarters, we see when India improves, the gross margin is better. Here, the U.S. has been higher and your generics has been -- I understand is that is typically a lower gross margin business. So GX also is higher. So has the U.S. done phenomenally better in terms of product basket? If you could just give some color, apart from that income of $3.5 million, which is above the gross margin line, right, in other operating expenses.

Sandeep Singh

executive
#42

Yes, you are precisely correct, sir. We -- U.S. has been a significant contributor of changing the gross margin.

Prakash Agarwal

analyst
#43

Okay. And do you think it is sustainable?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#44

It is sustainable, maybe not at the same gross margins, but it will be better than what it has been historically. Because we are launching products which are a little bit different than, let's say, [ generic ], which we kept doing in the past. So our product filing and approvals are slightly -- of much better quality, actually, I would say, which is now playing out from this time. And hopefully, we will keep getting something which will be of better quality. So I think they are quite sustainable, maybe not at the same proportion, but it's not going to go back to its mean.

Operator

operator
#45

We take the next question from the line of Damayanti Kerai from HSBC.

Damayanti Kerai

analyst
#46

So my question is on the U.S. business. So we have seen continuous improvement in this part of business. And obviously, first quarter is very strong. So my question is regarding U.S. business contribution to the overall consolidated margins. So compared to, say, last 1 year, how much better contribution is coming from this part of the business, if you can clarify? And does 1 -- first quarter reported number contains any 1 off sales?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#47

Yes. Mr. Ghare, would you like to answer that, please, Amit?

Amit Ghare

executive
#48

Sure, Sandeep. So Damayanti, as you know, we don't break out our gross margin by market. So I would not be able to answer your question directly. But I'll certainly try and answer the second part. The second part is related with sustainability, and we are obviously working in every way. Like Sandeep answered on the previous question. Through our new product launches and through our overall margin improvement, that is what the aim really is to continue to grow and expand our margin.

Damayanti Kerai

analyst
#49

Sure, sir. So as Sandeep sir mentioned, we are seeing now better quality of product launches. That plus scale up in sales should result in the operating leverage benefit for the overall margin contribution, right? We should think in that manner?

Amit Ghare

executive
#50

No, absolutely. So operating leverage is the biggest contributor as far as EBITDA is concerned from the U.S. business side, absolutely.

Damayanti Kerai

analyst
#51

And on the launches, we'll be launching around 8 to 10 products consistently per year. Is that the target from your side?

Amit Ghare

executive
#52

Yes. So last year, we launched more than 10, and this year also, we are aiming to launch more than 10. Double digit, lower double digits, obviously, between 10 to 12 for the full year.

Damayanti Kerai

analyst
#53

Okay. And 1 question on the India part. If you can specify the sales mix between the branded generic and trade generic expression, that will be helpful.

Sandeep Singh

executive
#54

Mr. Dubey?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#55

So trade generic is somewhere close to 27%, 28% of our domestic sales.

Damayanti Kerai

analyst
#56

Okay. And we are seeing double-digit growth on the trade generic, as mentioned earlier, right? Double digit.

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#57

That Managing Director, he already told, even in quarter 1, we had very good growth of trade generic and that's good growth in double digit, of course.

Damayanti Kerai

analyst
#58

And you hope to maintain that kind of momentum?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#59

Trade -- even our ethical business is -- it has started picking up. So but trade generic it is expected it's going to do better. Of course, composition, it will come down. So the trade generics composition is higher now. Definitely, it will come down. Traditionally, say, 18% to 20% kind of mix of trade generic is there. I think that is going to be a normal situation all across. We expect our ethical business to come back to track.

Operator

operator
#60

We take the next question from the line of Anubhav Aggarwal from Crédit Suisse.

Anubhav Aggarwal

analyst
#61

I have only 1 question on the experience on the larger brands in the ethical market. So for example, let's say, Pan, Pan-D, et cetera, you may have seen in April and May when the subscriptions were very low...

Sandeep Singh

executive
#62

Sorry, can you speak Anubhav again, because your last line we missed out.

Anubhav Aggarwal

analyst
#63

Sure. Yes, I will start once again. So my question was on the larger brands that we have in the ethical portfolio like Pan, Pan-D, et cetera. Now I was talking about the lockdown period in April, May and part of June where because of lesser promotion by the competitors, it's possible that we may have seen higher prescription for our larger brands. I don't know, I'm just asking about the trend. And the bigger question is that how you are thinking about learnings from this experience for the last 3 months for the larger brands? When you're starting to market again, are you thinking about increasing resources on these brands more? Or are you thinking about reducing resources on those brands? How are you thinking -- or just maintaining the previous strategy?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#64

Yes. So you are 2 questions. One is about the impact of this on a large brand, okay? So certainly, the impact is very positive on large brands. And so the new prescriptions, we may not have generated much, okay. On a prescription front it is almost static. But -- or it is negative, in fact, not static, it's a negative prescription. But because of OTX factor Pan immensely benefited, because the availability of the brand. So Pan has not actually degrown in the first quarter. We almost maintained the sales of last year. That is one. Now coming to your next question about how the market dynamics will change in the coming time. I clearly see it will change permanently. It is not going to be only for COVID time, but the digital is now setting in and it will become a permanent feature of marketing in the future. That is I'm clearly foreseeing now.

Anubhav Aggarwal

analyst
#65

So that was part of the question. What I was also trying to get something from your side was that resources that you're deploying right now for the marketing of the larger brands, do you think that in future, that will reduce for you or that will increase for you?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#66

Not really. In fact, the learning across industry is that sustain your large brands, okay? So because the smaller brands, if you see across industries have -- are impacted the most. So the learning would be that if you're operating in a larger market, particularly, and if you're a large brand, in fact, grow them, so that -- I mean, they build their momentum, which we call a snowball momentum. And that is impacting all the large brand of the industry. Yes. So of course, our resources will be more on -- or if not more, than we will sustain the resources on the large brand. We are not going to reduce the momentum of large brand. Coming back to digital marketing, see, we are have the kind of now learning, which has begun. The large set of specialists, whether it is in anti-infective field or cardio -- cardiac field or diabetology field, the doctors are quite happy not actually -- avoiding travel and all. And they are doing equally intense discussions on these platforms. So 1 of the key initiatives which Alkem began is about Connect To Clinic, one of the digital initiative which we have. It is kind of a telemedicine platform, but we are not going to confine it only to telemedicine. But it will be kind of a complete digital solution to a doctor in terms of reaching out to patients for patient awareness programs, sourcing various data internationally and all that stuff. So all the digital initiatives will support large brands in the future. So our resource allocation with the large brands will be quite significant in the coming times.

Anubhav Aggarwal

analyst
#67

If I can ask just 1 clarity on that. That's very useful, what you mentioned. What do you -- because your app, what is the average time spent by a doctor -- per doctor which you would have just seen on this digital app so far?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#68

See, digital app, this is -- right now, this is a telemedicine app. It depends on the profile of a patient. So if patient profile is a little serious, a doctor may go up to 30 minutes to 45 minutes. And if it is just a follow-up for patients, then it can last for maybe just 10, 15 minutes.

Anubhav Aggarwal

analyst
#69

Yes, actually, I was not asking about the telemedicine, I was more asking about your promotion to doctor.

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#70

Yes. I'm coming to this 1 also. So when it comes to the knowledge sharing kind of a platform, there doctor remains for an hour or so. So the kind of interaction which happens goes for an hour.

Operator

operator
#71

We take the next question from the line of Neha Manpuria from JPMorgan.

Neha Manpuria

analyst
#72

Sandeep, the second quarter usually tends to be a very important quarter for us due to seasonality. As we are stepping into July, if you could give us some sense on how the acute business is trending. And do you think by the end of this quarter, we could get back some of the momentum that we saw last year given the monsoons have been pretty strong?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#73

Yes. So I think as -- I think I said earlier also, see, this month is looking better than last month, no doubt about that. So I think this quarter will be better than last quarter as far as acute is concerned. If things don't get, let's say, kind of interrupted by some other cases and lockdowns and things like that, it would certainly be far better than quarter 1. Did I answer your question or is there something specific, I will take it up?

Neha Manpuria

analyst
#74

Understood. No, no. And on the U.S. business, I was just wondering, I know our launch momentum has been pretty good. But we've seen a fair bit of expansion in market share in our existing products. And that's been happening for quite a few quarters. Do you think there is more scope for us to see continued market share gains? Or have we sort of peaked out in that? And therefore, this launch momentum becomes important.

Sandeep Singh

executive
#75

Yes. I would like Mr. Amit Ghare to answer that. Amit, please come in?

Amit Ghare

executive
#76

Sure. So Neha, obviously, that's always the aim to expand market share wherever possible. But to a large extent, we have reached peak in many of our products. And certainly, for our growth, growth both in revenue, market share as well as in margin terms, we do depend on new launches.

Operator

operator
#77

Next question is from the line of Runjhun Jain from Nirmal Bang.

Runjhun Jain

analyst
#78

Thank you. For the most of the questions have been answered. I just missed some milestone income...

Operator

operator
#79

Sorry, to interrupt you, I'm requesting you to please speak a bit louder?

Runjhun Jain

analyst
#80

Yes, sorry. Is it okay now?

Operator

operator
#81

Yes, you may please go ahead.

Runjhun Jain

analyst
#82

Most of the questions have been answered. I just wanted to know the milestone income which I missed in your opening remarks. Can you quantify that? How much it is? And is it likely to come again in the year? How is it?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#83

Mr. Dubey?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#84

We do have milestone income in our quarter 1 financial, and that is somewhere close to INR 25 crore kind of milestone payment we have received on our R&D related activities. Yes, obviously, we are a pharma company, and we have R&D facilities. So we can expect this kind of milestone. But right now, we don't have anything concrete in our mind to tell you specifically when and what quantum we are going to receive. Our business is like that.

Sandeep Singh

executive
#85

Yes, I would allude that we should not be factoring that regularly for sure. Because this side, we have worked on it many, many years back. It is something which you can't predict and something which you can't plan for.

Runjhun Jain

analyst
#86

That's very helpful. Sir, just 1 last question. Is there any -- I just want to know your view on the recent U.S. President's regulatory order, saying that they are looking to shift or take the drug for the U.S. manufacturing base to U.S. manufacturing. So your views on that. So how is it likely to impact Indian pharma in general and you as in particular.

Sandeep Singh

executive
#87

Yes, understood. Our friend, Mr. Amit Ghare is based in U.S. right now. I think I'll let him answer. He knows what's happening there. Mr. Amit Ghare, please.

Amit Ghare

executive
#88

Sure, Sandeep. So these kind of moves have always been there, and this is nothing really new. Some of the moves are obviously aimed at big pharma, not so much in generics, but obviously, manufacturing is for everything, including big pharma, generics, everything. It remains to be seen how this unfolds. From our perspective, I can't answer for other Indian companies or other companies, but from Alkem's perspective, we have manufacturing in the U.S. and we have -- we are well positioned is what I would say to take on any changes in policies or any challenges, which get thrown at us because of change in regulation.

Sandeep Singh

executive
#89

Yes. We have API and formulation both, so that's advantage. On money, you will have API in U.S.

Runjhun Jain

analyst
#90

What is -- is it safe to say that it probably will work out more and benefit companies like you who have manufacturing base and or API and formulation there?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#91

No, to be honest I will not go that far and say it will work out good for us, because overall, is things -- first of all, it will not go that way. I think we know that U.S. is far more open economy. And this is all -- this is election time don't forget that. So we have a huge manufacturing base here. So obviously, everybody would be adversely impacted. But I don't see that happening. Yes, we have facilities there. That gives us certain benefits and flexibility, but it's not that it would greatly help anyone if that happens, which I don't see happening honestly.

Operator

operator
#92

Due to time constraint, we take the last 3 questions. The next question is from the line of Ashish Thavkar from Motilal Oswal Securities Limited.

Ashish Thavkar

analyst
#93

So there was a aspect of the challenges, it seems the API prices were typically very high the current quarter, that is quarter 1. And in the last week, it also seems that some of the Chinese guys have started now taking a very drastic cut in the KSM. So your views and any comment on this?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#94

So as far as -- as far as API prices are concerned, yes, some increase of API prices were there, but it was not beyond certain limits. I think actually, I covered in my earlier answers also. And yes, there was some negative impact of increase of API prices, but these are manageable. I think more or less, now it's normalized kind of. And we think -- we don't think normal kind of API prices, it is going to go up or down. Of course, probability of coming down is much more. Unless something happens on political front or relationship with China or something like that. So we are comfortable as on the procurement of API is concerned. Sizing also, we don't see any significant kind of movement.

Ashish Thavkar

analyst
#95

And what is the API inventory, how much months of API inventory do we maintain?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#96

Generally for API, in this situation, our intention is to maintain 45 to 50 days requirement.

Ashish Thavkar

analyst
#97

Okay. Fair enough. And recent PLI scheme announced by the government, it seems we do not have any API integration on our side. Would you be willing to participate? And so just wanted to have your understanding on that?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#98

Government is encouraging, and they are offering...

Sandeep Singh

executive
#99

It's not a priority for us. We are not -- we don't see ourselves as major API players.

Ashish Thavkar

analyst
#100

Okay. And we are not even -- even the near foreseeable future, we are planning to have any API facilities here on our side, right?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#101

No, we have 3 API facilities existing, 2 in India and 1 in U.S., but we don't have like massive plans to put a lot of CapEx and start doing things which we have not done. We don't see ourselves as key players in API. We see ourselves more as a front-end sales marketing company and maybe work on tough-to-do generics and things like that for U.S. rather than get into API. That's how we view ourselves.

Ashish Thavkar

analyst
#102

Okay. Fair enough. So just 1 last question -- if for this Q1, how would you see the quarter 2 for the India business? More so from the view point of our anti-infectives portfolio.

Sandeep Singh

executive
#103

Yes, Yogesh.

Yogesh Kaushal

executive
#104

Quarter 2 should be much better than quarter 1, okay? And I see a recovery happening in quarter 2. So if you look at the IQVIA data also, the market has shown a growth of almost 2.5% in the month of July -- June. July would be better. So quarter 2 against negative of minus 5.9% in quarter 1, we expect the industry to grow by around say, 5% to 6%. So in line with that, our acute business should show a good growth. In fact, in the month of July, our acute business has already shown a growth of almost 2%.

Operator

operator
#105

We take the next question from the line of Sapna Jhawar from Dolat Capital.

Sapna Jhawar

analyst
#106

So in your previous comments you did mention that now we are filing some better quality products in the U.S. Could you just explain as to what are we trying to do? Are we trying to do treat the older products into newer or are we trying to file up really -- more going into topicals or injectables, what products are we filing? Any idea on that.

Sandeep Singh

executive
#107

I will take that. So more than dosage form, because I think when we say better products, we don't just mean a different dosage form. In the same dosage for tablet and capsules, there are drugs which are more difficult to do in bulk or -- and things like that. So those kind of stuff. I don't really mean we're getting into sterile or ointments or things like that. So just more tough-to-do generics basically. And more than that, I don't things I can share.

Sapna Jhawar

analyst
#108

All right. But it will still remain in the oral solids?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#109

More or less, we will remain in oral solids.

Operator

operator
#110

We take the last question from the line of Saket Bansal from Opulent Investment.

Saket Bansal

analyst
#111

Yes, sir. From -- I want to understand about the U.S. business. What kind of a base portfolio we have and what is the share of it? And what will be the share from the new product portfolio?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#112

Amit, please?

Amit Ghare

executive
#113

Look, we don't break out, again, product-wise or portfolio wise. But certainly, new products continue to be an important factor for us. And in the quarter, certainly added a good chunk of our overall U.S. revenues.

Saket Bansal

analyst
#114

Okay. Can you give me the data on number of launches in last quarter?

Amit Ghare

executive
#115

Sure. We launched 5 generics in the quarter. And we had also acquired the Marinol NDA, so we did a soft launch for the Marinol brand also. So those were the number of launches that we did in the quarter.

Saket Bansal

analyst
#116

And total number of launches ANDAs would be?

Amit Ghare

executive
#117

We are selling about 65 to 70 products in the market, total ANDAS.

Saket Bansal

analyst
#118

Sir, I want to understand on the employee cost side also, that we have seen an increase in the employee cost as a percentage of sales. So will it continue? Or there is a chance of improvement over there?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#119

Mr. Dubey, please?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#120

Yes. But when you see employee cost, I don't think there is any increase. Employee cost is around 19.7%, that is 20%. Whereas last year, it was 21%. On absolute terms, also, we see there is no much increase. Of course, increment is factored in this.

Saket Bansal

analyst
#121

Are we hiring new people?

Rajesh Dubey

executive
#122

We are not, we are not. What -- manpower, especially for our sales and marketing needs, they are already in place. So no major hiring as much.

Saket Bansal

analyst
#123

Okay. Do we see any rationalization of cost in coming quarters when things will improve, like things will be unlocking now. So do we see any rationalization of cost? Because eventually say that INR 150 crores, whichever the direct expenses was, which was a benefit in this quarter will come back very soon. And when we -- so do we see any cut down in costs in future? Because again, if we see, like all the costs will be coming like that, the EBITDA margin will go back to 20%, right?

Sandeep Singh

executive
#124

Yes. So you want 26% next quarter also? All right. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#125

Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question for today. I would now like to hand the conference back to the management for their closing comments.

Gagan Borana

executive
#126

Thank you, everyone, for attending this call. If any of your queries have remained unanswered, please feel free to get in touch with us. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#127

Thank you.

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