Alkermes plc (ALKS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 16, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Brandon Folkes
analystGood morning, everyone, and welcome to the 2020 Cantor Fitzgerald Virtual Health Care Conference this year. Thank you very much for joining us. I am Brandon Folkes, one of the biopharma analysts here at Cantor. And next up on the schedule, we have a fireside chat with Alkermes. And joining us from Alkermes is CEO, Richard Pops; and Iain Brown, SVP of Finance. Just a word to those who are joining us, we will likely run short of time for Q&A on this fireside chat. So if you do have any questions, please e-mail them directly to me. I'll get them across to the company, and the company will get back to you.
Brandon Folkes
analystMaybe just bringing in, Rich, thank you very much for joining us. Can you just give us a brief overview of where Alkermes is currently? I think most people are familiar with the company. But just in terms of how has COVID continued to impact the business post the second quarter.
Richard F. Pops
executiveWell, good morning, Brandon, it's good to see you. And like I said before, it's good to see you wearing a tie. Upgrade these Zoom chats for once now. Yes, it's a really important time in the history of Alkermes now because if you think about the company in 2 or 3 discrete buckets, the first being the current commercial business, which is anchored with VIVITROL and ARISTADA; the second bucket being the later stage pipeline, which is notably filled with 3831 for schizophrenia and bipolar disease; and I think increasingly 4230 in cancer. And then the third bucket would be everything else, including our earlier-stage research that things are happening in the lab that have continued throughout COVID. In that first bucket is where your question is directed. And I think that we've shown a really remarkable resiliency coming out of what, in March and April was a really scary moment, I think, for patients with serious mental illness and addiction, where access to care really dried up. These types of providers really didn't want to see their patients, and these types of patients really didn't want to see their providers. And with our medicines, which are injectable medicines, typically administered in a physician's office or in that setting, we saw an immediate impact, particularly in our VIVITROL business. So it was amazing to see how quickly our commercial teams adapted to this became -- what became a virtual environment, but not just digitizing and being able to work on different platforms. It was engaging with the care providers to figure out ways of reestablishing care with these patients. Interestingly, despite the fact that both medicines, VIVITROL and ARISTADA were given by injections, there was different responses in the 2 different clinical settings. Schizophrenia, those patients were less affected. Our ARISTADA business was not as affected as our VIVITROL business. And I think that underscores the fact that the treatment system for addiction is even more fragmented and less robust than the treatment for serious mental illness is that one as well. So I think that we were pleased to be able to reestablish guidance at the end of the Q2 call. I think because we have a good sense now barring any unforeseen changes in the world of how the business re-equilibrates. And so we're back at it, and we're getting our medicines to patients. And I think the higher level message is that Alkermes provides a really important service in the community at large at a time like this, during a pandemic. These patients with serious mental illness and addiction get left behind. And it's more than just making a medicine available, which is hard enough, manufacturing it, distributing it, keeping it available. But also reinforcing on the policy side and making sure that the systems continue to accommodate care for patients, many of whom are on the fringes of society. So long answer to a simple question, but I think that we feel comfortable that we have visibility into the business now for the end of the year, and we've reestablished the guidance, and we're comfortable with that.
Brandon Folkes
analystGreat. And I do want to come back to the commercial business. But I guess I'm going to dive in straight into 3831 just because of the timeliness around AdCom, right? So we have the AdCom, I think, it's scheduled for October 9. Maybe just from your side, can you talk a little bit about the aspects you expect the committee will really drill down into? And then maybe on the attenuation of weight gain, can you talk a little bit about how you see the data? There was some misinterpretation from the investment community. Any insights in terms of how you think the FDA is going to interpret that data?
Richard F. Pops
executive3831 is a [indiscernible] [ samidorphan ], new molecular entity [indiscernible] antagonist. And the inclusion of the samidorphan is to -- anyway the -- so commonly lack in treatment. There's a couple of [indiscernible] to how it does that. The original one was driven by reward mechanisms in the brain associated primarily with consumption of fat. But the interesting thing about modeling that, unlike modeling schizophrenia itself, you can model weight gain in animals of various species to look at weight gain driven by olanzapine and attenuation of that weight gain by olanzapine. And so it's been a long, scientifically rigorous program. And the -- when we filed the NDA, we expected that to enter at AdCom, they would focus exactly on what you mentioned, which is the clinical significance of weight mitigation because FDA has not approved weight mitigation agents before. There are guidances and drugs have been developed as weight loss agents, but particularly for the division of psychiatry to have a weight mitigation aspect of an antipsychotic, that was new. And we thought that was a reasonable basis for a discussion in an AdCom. So at our mid-cycle meeting and the associated minutes from that, we were told that the -- there were no safety issues at the time. There are no efficacy issues at the time. It was really going to be focused on the clinical significance of weight medication. Subsequent to that meeting, we were notified that they want to also include some questions about the presence of an opioid receptor antagonist in this patient population. Now that's entirely reasonable. That's something we actually flag in the NDA ourselves, we -- and in our clinical trials because samidorphan is an antagonist. We don't want 3831 used in people who are actively using opioids, unless that they were [indiscernible]. I think that's always been part of our labeling recommendation. So we had raised this as a potential issue. We have a lot of experience with this because, of course, we market an injectable once-monthly for opioid antagonist in an overlapping patient population. Now we know that labeling is adequate, and we know from real world experience that there's very little evidence of people trying to overcome that blockade or precipitating withdrawal or not being able to get an effective analgesic. So we'll be prepared to talk about that at the AdCom as well.
Brandon Folkes
analystMaybe just staying on that point, the opioid question that was raised. Is this patient population that -- I mean, to me, it doesn't seem like one that would be on a lot of opioids, but -- sorry, let me rephrase it. That would be -- have any opioid usage different to the general population? Is that right? Or is this a population where we do see a higher usage of opioids that with that label claim, it may be something that prescribers need to just be a little bit more aware of?
Richard F. Pops
executiveI think that the point estimate for opioid use or abuse in the schizophrenia population is still very low, 5% or less, which is higher than the general population, but still absolutely low. The bipolar is slightly higher. But as a general matter, as we talk to clinicians, these are things that they're investigating, interrogating at all times because we the administration of a psychoactive compound against the backdrop of the illicit drug use is problematic. It could be alcohol. It could be opioids. When we talk to the patient advocacy groups, I actually think there's a bit of embedded stigma in this, suggesting these patients are more prone to become opioid addicts and also more prone to not tell their doctor if they're using an opioid. Recall that compared to VIVITROL, VIVITROL is irretrievable once-monthly blockade. These are once-daily oral tablets with 10 mg of samidorphan on it. They're not -- it's not a persistent blockade. So if someone decides that they don't want to take their antipsychotic with the antagonist anymore, they're not going to take it. But that's not the patient population this drug is designed for. And I think it's one of the most interesting things about the analysis that I read from analysts on this market because they tend to talk about all the impediments that patients are going to face to get access to 3831 or any other medication. And what's interesting is that, that's all true. You can stipulate, that's absolutely true. But single market share points because there are so many patients are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. So when you talk to thought leaders, and they say, well, only 20% of my patients might be candidates for this. Well, we had 20% of the patients. This will be a multibillion-dollar drug. We're hoping for single-digit percentages and then building from there. So I think there's a mismatch in many people's minds, particularly who've been familiar with dealing with oncology drugs or rare disease drugs, where they feel like they can capture large shares of the market. We know that with 3831 and any other branded agents, they're going to be forced to go through multiple hoops many times, and this is incredibly unfortunate and inappropriate, but it's the current state of affairs. And we understand that quite well because we happen to sell a brand in antipsychotic right now in the form of ARISTADA. And you've heard me say before, no patient goes on ARISTADA who hasn't failed on multiple cheap oral generics. Yet INVEGA SUSTENNA, the product that J&J sells based on our technology, it's a $2 billion drug in the U.S. So it's just an overwhelming number of patients with serious medical need. 1% incidence in prevalence of schizophrenia has 3 million people in the country with serious chronic lifelong disease who need better care. So we completely understand that what we're focusing on is the tip of a very broad-based pyramid, but there's still a lot of room for helping people in that space.
Brandon Folkes
analystGreat. And then just switching back to the weight part of the question, right, because I think that's something that people have focused on. As we've -- as you've had more time to really be out then educate KOLs or physicians who present the data, can you just talk about that newest or what is the reception you're getting from the actual prescribing community, right, in terms of mitigating that weight gain versus the limitations around a trial where you're shifting a population and you may have people dropping out who do gain significant weight?
Richard F. Pops
executiveYes. It's a good question because the actual prespecified primary analysis of the weight study is so bit esoteric because it's co-primary endpoints have shift in the mean plus these categorical cuts at 10% and 7%, which are both highly statistically significant. But to a practicing clinician, they have no reference because no other drug has ever been tested in that way. So what we find actually is that the flatness of the curve, which is not part of the primary analysis per se, but it's representative of the data, not just within the 24-week period, but the year plus follow-up, that's what is also really striking to the clinician. So they'll say, okay, we get that you achieved the primary endpoint. So there's clearly an effect on weight. We then show the cumulative distribution plot, which shows that it's not just driven by 1 or 2 weight categories. It's across the whole spectrum. And then the flatness and people who use olanzapine is they recognize that flat is now what you see clinically with olanzapine at all. So I think that's coupled with -- for many clinicians, just a deep understanding and regular use of olanzapine, they know [ the answer ]. So what we're finding is that there's a significant amount of receptivity to the idea of making olanzapine into a maintenance drug. They often use it now in the acute setting, in exacerbation of schizophrenia. But the idea of being able to keep patients on olanzapine, capturing that efficacy, while not worrying about accumulation of weight over time is attractive. So we don't find that people really spend a lot of time in statistical manipulations of looking what the data means in that regard. There's clearly a shift, and the rate profile looks flat. And I think physicians are going to try it and see in their own hands, if it's different than olanzapine.
Brandon Folkes
analystOkay. And then maybe in terms of launch preparations, where are you with that? Or when should we expect launch preparations to ramp up?
Richard F. Pops
executiveI lost a little bit of audio there, Brandon. You asked the question, when do we expect launch preparations sort to ramp?
Brandon Folkes
analystTo begin to ramp up. Yes.
Richard F. Pops
executiveYes. Well, that's happening now. It's one of the great advantages of having a presence in that market right now is that we have the engine not launching from a standing start. We have medical affairs. We have national accounts, we have payer relationships. We have -- we reckon based on our calculation that -- of the target audience at launch, we currently have relationships with about 60% of those physicians.
Brandon Folkes
analystAnd maybe if I can just bring you in here quickly. Can we talk a little bit about, obviously, there's been a lot of discussion about Alkermes and what they may look to buy in terms of business development. Obviously, you have a very sound company. How should we think about the liquidity of the company? And where you think about investing that liquidity over the next few years, given that you have the 3831 launch coming up as well as -- and I'm going to get to that next. But you do have this 4230 program that you have the option to invest behind as well or partner.
Iain Brown
executiveYes, I think that's a great question. I think we get that a lot. Capital allocation is obviously front and center. I think right now, where we stand with regard to the cash on the balance sheet versus debt, we have -- we're net cash positive $260 million. So we feel good with where we're at now. I think as we look at business development opportunities, I think both from an R&D perspective, we recently made an investment within Rodin at the end of last year to bring in a new platform to potentially invest in into the future. Prior to that, we've been assessing whether it's better to invest in internal opportunities, which we had been doing up to that point. And then we felt like bringing Rodin in at an earlier stage was going to give us some longer-term shareholder value. And then, as you say, we're very much focused on the launch of 3831. 4230, I think, is right for a potential partnership at some point in time. We have the capital to invest in the 4230 program to a certain size. But I think 4230 has the potential to be a much broader program. So to the extent we can bring a partnership in, we may be able to expand that program. So I think -- we're obviously very focused on the P&L. We did suspend guidance. And I think people were concerned that we may end up spending too much money from that perspective. But we put the stake in the ground and said, from a non-GAAP profitability perspective, we're going to be at least break even. And when we reinstated guidance, we were $0 to $30 million of non-GAAP net income. So I think overall, I think we feel very good with where we're at. Obviously, the launch of 3831 is going to be important as well the trajectory of both VIVITROL and ARISTADA and then a potential partnership of 4230 obviously changes the shape of the P&L going forward as well.
Richard F. Pops
executiveI'm back, just in case.
Brandon Folkes
analystThanks, Rich. Well, now I'm going to shift back to you because finding what Iain says, it's 4230, right? And you've got an event or you -- you got to put a new clinical data at virtual ESMO. And you're host -- you're going to do the mini oral presentation and you're hosting a call. Without obviously giving away too much, as I'm sure you can't, how should you how should we think about what we could see from 4230 and -- on Friday and is this an inflection point? Or is this an incremental data point build into something larger down the line?
Richard F. Pops
executiveSo the way I think about 4230 is, it's a series of stage gates that we've set for ourselves from the very beginning. And the drug just continues to pass those gates. The first one is really related to the molecular design itself, which is quite different than anybody else's design working in the IL-2 mutant space. It's a confirmation of its electivity in vitro and then in vivo, and beginning to see its ability to expand the desired cell types, Ala IL-2 without concomitant expansion of regulatory T cells, Tregs. Seeing that patients in a dose-dependent fashion and essentially establishing the pharmacodynamics of IL-2 without the side effects. That was the data last year at SITC. That's where we began to see the intravenous program they were getting with desired expansions, without the expansions of the cell types we didn't want. That was specific to the design of the molecule, and it was absolutely consistent with our hypothesis, to see that in the periphery, in a dose-dependent fashion, via intravenous route. We then began to broaden the program, introducing the subcutaneous dosage form as well, which is a highly differentiated dosage form, weekly in every 3 weeks. And trying the next box checked was [indiscernible] in relation with pembrolizumab in checkpoints as well as monotherapy because if high-dose IL-2 shows monotherapy efficacy in melanoma and renal cell carcinoma seem to us that we should see that as well. So the data that you'll see coming into this fall with ESMO and the SITC is that next step, which is, okay, now let's see evidence of efficacy. And as you know, we've been enrolling across a basket of all kinds of different tumor types, looking for signal, both on the monotherapy side and on the combo side. And interestingly, in the combinations with pembro, we've been looking also in pembro unapproved tumor types. And so that's -- there's a lot of patients out there getting checkpoint inhibitors. And there are a lot of patients who are progressing on checkpoint inhibitors, and there are a lot of indications also where checkpoint inhibitors aren't approved. So there's a lot of area in this space that is unmet. So what we're not trying to do is get into a situation where we're going to run large randomized studies versus a checkpoint inhibitor and a checkpoint inhibitor approved tumor type, looking for the additive benefit of 4230. I think that's interesting, but not as interesting to us is going into different tumor types. And so I think what people will begin to see is the accumulation of this efficacy data in the intravenous program. Whether it's additive or pivotal or increment -- it's all in the eye of the beholder. I think some of the early adopters, some of the people who are really schooled in the field, and I include in this group our investigators because they're actually treating patients with it. I think they're crossing that bridge now. I think they're moving from the idea. This is an interesting agent as well tolerated with pharmacodynamic activity, too. This is going to -- this can help patients that are progressing with serious cancers. So let's talk after the presentation. It's just a couple of days away. And I'm really interested to hear your feedback and other people's feedback, too.
Brandon Folkes
analystGreat. I think we're all looking forward to seeing what you had to present on Friday. Maybe just coming back to your commercial business. ARISTADA did do very well, as you mentioned, in the second quarter. This was in spite of COVID. But on the same token is, how do you think COVID was a perfect situation where it really highlighted the benefit of the 2-month dosing? Can you just talk a little bit about the dynamics you're seeing with that product? Yes, I think we'll get to guidance later. So let's -- I don't have to drill down there yet. But do you think that the switch to the 2-month product is something that's going to be a tailwind far beyond COVID?
Richard F. Pops
executiveI do. I think that COVID has served to identify some of the special and important features of the ARISTADA product family a bit large. And it's fastest-growing atypical LAI. I mean it is -- and I think that there's good reasons based on its tolerability profile and its dosing interval and the availability of INITIO... A couple of things, I think, endure coming out of COVID. One is telepsychiatry. I mean you've heard others talk about this, I'm sure. But it's interesting, Brandon, just -- it's an example in the health care system, where I think there's a chance for the standard of care to be better coming out of COVID than it was going in. Many patients have not had access to psychiatry resources, particularly in rural America or people with limited access. So the advent of telepsychiatry is hopefully here to stay. It's not a panacea. We don't believe that you can just substitute in-person interactions with just remote interactions, but it's a way of augmenting and creating a holistic package of care. The combination of long-acting injectables plus telepsychiatry, we think, is very powerful because then in the telemedicine interaction, we don't have to worry about clients with medicine. You can say that's sorted. We could focus more on the behavioral health aspects of the interaction. So 6 dosing decisions a year, coupled with more frequent care on a behavioral side, I think, can be really beneficial for patients. So those are tailwinds. I think the headwinds are that -- I think just new patient starts in a COVID environment are always going to be lower because there's just fewer interactions. So that's the yin and the yang of it right now. But over time, I think the increasing value of long-acting injectables is becoming clear.
Brandon Folkes
analystI agree. And just maybe pivoting on to VIVITROL quickly. We've got about 4 minutes left. So I just want to touch on VIVITROL and then on the guidance, one question later. So obviously, this product was impacted due to COVID, but it remains a very good product. We've seen opioid deaths creep up again, and we've heard anecdotally about opioid addiction during the COVID crisis creeping up as well as alcoholism, I'm sure, is something that we're going to need to deal with coming out of COVID. How do you think -- well, maybe one, firstly, any color on how VIVITROL is trending? I think, as you mentioned, new patient starts is a big challenge in this environment. And when or how should we think about VIVITROL returning to a normalized run rate? And maybe getting some of these tailwinds that COVID created additional problems for?
Richard F. Pops
executiveWell, a couple of thoughts there, Brandon. First of all to where you started, I and we are quite concerned about a resurgence in opioid overdose deaths and alcohol dependence and associated sequelae from that. There's no question that it's happening. At the same time, the treatment system is more limited and restricted than it has been in the past. So it's -- you can feel this back pressure almost building that system for something to be done. But that's going to be felt in the public health system as well as in the criminal justice system, and it's troubling. Too few patients still have access to medication-assisted treatment of any type. And we are strenuously working with states and federal government to make sure that provisions are made to accommodate the continued care of these patients. And they can fall between the cracks for these most mundane of reasons and the implications are -- we hear these anecdotes of people who even get delayed on a VIVITROL shot by a week or 2 relapsing to opioid dependence. So little things matter, and it's really, really important. VIVITROL is always a stories of puts and takes. There are things that help it, and then a state will shut down its funding and it will have a disproportionate effect on VIVITROL. And so what VIVITROL guidance always is, it's an amalgamation of a lot of pluses and minuses, and it nets out somewhere. And I'll let Iain comment more on it from a financial perspective. But I don't think the treatment system itself is going to be back in action fully until this is behind us. And I think a lot of reasonable people expect that there might be another wave of distancing precipitated by a blossoming of the infection in certain quarters around the country. So that's not quantitative. That's just an instinctive feeling about the whole thing. But what drives the use of VIVITROL throughout the whole process is its tremendous efficacy because that once-monthly injection is a very powerful. It's a very powerful therapeutic intervention, and it's really important for us to maintain access to it. Iain, I don't know if you want to add anything on that.
Iain Brown
executiveWell, the only thing I'll add is that, interestingly, we're seeing a little bit more growth on the alcohol side. I know a lot of people talk about VIVITROL and the opioid indication. But certainly, from an alcohol perspective, VIVITROL is -- we're seeing increased growth there. And you hear anecdotally the incidence of increased drinking as people are working from home and unemployed, et cetera. So it will be interesting to see whether there's any tailwind from that as we sort of get to a more normalized state. But I think overall, from a guidance perspective, we withheld guidance in Q1 because we really didn't know what the full year impact on VIVITROL was going to be. So when we reinstated guidance, it was about $60 million lower. And what we really saw was Q1 was off to a great start. We really saw the impact in April, May in those VIVITROL prescriptions and in the overall market growth as well, the market actually declined in that period. June, we started to see the market come back. And I think that trend has continued as we track everything on a weekly basis subsequent to that. So we're very hopeful that Q2 was kind of the low point, and we're going to see continued growth as we go through the remainder of the year.
Brandon Folkes
analystGreat. Rich, again, we are out of time, but thank you very much for joining us today. I think it's a very informative discussion. Look forward to hearing from you on Friday. And good luck for the October 9 AdCom. Thank you very much, and that ends the session today.
Richard F. Pops
executiveThank you, Brandon.
Iain Brown
executiveThanks, Brandon.
Richard F. Pops
executiveStay well. We'll see you soon.
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