Alkermes plc (ALKS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 11, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
James Talbot
analystWelcome to Alkermes fireside chat. I'm James Talbot. I'm a member of the health care investment banking team here at Morgan Stanley. And I'm very happy to welcome Richard Pops. Richard is Chairman and CEO of Alkermes. Before we get into the discussion, I just need to remind you all that for disclosures about today's discussion, you can refer to the Morgan Stanley research disclosure website at www.morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. Rich, I think you may have a similar forward-looking statement comment to make before we jump into the more interesting discussion.
Richard F. Pops
executiveThat's great. Thank you for the prompt and good to see you, James. Yes, we will make forward-looking statements, so it's sort of the point of the conversation. But as always, I recommend that you read our disclosures in our Qs and our Ks where we try to delineate the risks that we face. There are many of them. But we try to do our best to explain them to you and take that as a way of approaching all the comments we make today. Thank you.
James Talbot
analystGreat. So Rich, thanks again for being here. Maybe two quick things to start. First of all, can you just remind us about the mission and the focus of the company? And then second, look, it's been a very busy year for Alkermes. You've had a lot of important events over the last couple of months. Perhaps you could just sort of recap those for us and then talk a little bit about what you see the priorities being for the rest of the year?
Richard F. Pops
executiveBuilding a biotech company is an amazing meander that takes place over a certain period of time, and it's informed often by where the science takes you as well as your own strategy. And you're right, this last year has been a year where I think the next phase of Alkermes became very crystallized, very clear. Our origins, at the very beginning, we're trying to understand the blood-brain barrier. That segued into a long epic where we were developing drug delivery technologies for the brain and for other places. And that led to a very robust royalty business dealing with big pharma, manufacturing, getting royalty income from them, which we then use to segue, taking those cash flows, into creating our own molecules originally or our own drugs, first, based on those drug delivery technologies and then later, based on entirely new molecules that incorporated some of the sensibilities that we had learned through developing these drugs for ourselves and for partners. Most recently, that's been amalgamated in a company that has royalty income, proprietary product income as well as neuroscience drug development as well as oncology drug development. So about 1.5 years ago, we made the decision let's -- it's all starting to gel. Let's put it up and make it a clear investment thesis around the neuroscience business. And so looking ahead, that's what Alkermes is going to be. It's going to be this commercial, profitable, growing CNS-focused company of pipeline assets and research focused on developing drugs for neurology and psychiatry, spinning off what's going to be called neuro-oncology, which would be the oncology assets. And you guys have been intimately involved in that. You know that well. It's a well considered and very thoughtfully executed program, which, if it's completed, will be completed this quarter. So as we go into 2024, we're going to have a very, very clean way of presenting what Alkermes is. And that's what I think took the better part of 1.5 years or so to get that all crystallized.
James Talbot
analystGreat. So maybe we talk about some of the specifics through the portfolio. So first, with LYBALVI, you've had tremendous success with the launch of this product. Maybe you could just talk through for us, what do you think the key drivers behind this success have been? And how do you view this market and the opportunity here going forward?
Richard F. Pops
executiveHow wonderful to sit here today and say we've had tremendous success because I think we've had a really nice performance. And our priority -- and we were always hopeful that we would have great success with LYBALVI and that continues. But you never know until a product actually is in the marketplace, particularly when it's complicated with as many entrants as you have in the antipsychotic space. So LYBALVI, for those of you who aren't completely familiar with it, it's an oral antipsychotic medication that joins a very large category of atypical antipsychotics, which is characterized by large numbers of patients, huge amount of generics usage and still plenty of room for branded medicines to become very significant brands. LYBALVI launched with an indication in schizophrenia as well as in the treatment of bipolar-1 disease. And both of these indications are critical for its long-term future. So I think that what people probably underestimated when we launched LYBALVI is how compelling the efficacy message around LYBALVI is in the real world. Most of the recent launches in the atypical antipsychotic space over the years have been about drugs that are better tolerated for patients, where tolerability is the principal attribute, there's efficacy with tolerability, this idea of balance. LYBALVI occupies a different spot in the marketplace, which is compelling efficacy driven by the fact that one of the principal components of LYBALVI is olanzapine. So what LYBALVI is it's a drug that mitigates the excessive weight gain associated with olanzapine by the inclusion of a new molecular entity that we developed called samidorphan. So LYBALVI leverages that very powerful efficacy, which is often why patients switch on their medications because they're looking for more efficacy. So we're hopeful that the drug continues to grow. Last year, in its first year of launch, it recorded something on the order of $97 million of sales. We'll roughly double that this year. And then it begins to start taking on the shape of other major brands that have been launched in this category.
James Talbot
analystGreat. So you launched a DTC campaign this year. How is that going? Can you talk a little bit about the results that you're seeing from the investment you've made?
Richard F. Pops
executiveDTC, direct-to-consumer, advertising is an extremely proven approach to drive top line sales over the life of a product in certain therapeutic categories. And the data are actually quite robust and mature because many pharmaceutical companies have done this over many years. So the data set supporting the use of DTC is actually quite robust. So we launched one of the 2 components of DTC, which is the digital piece of it. We launched it early last year. So that would be targeted web-based advertising based on people's utilization of certain types of media. The more classic, what you think of DTC is the TV ads. We launched those for the first time in May. And so that -- the purpose of that is to educate patients as to the existence of LYBALVI. In fact, it's not just patients, it's caregivers, it's physicians, it's everybody, to teach the word LYBALVI to the world, to understand that it's a new medication for the treatment of bipolar-1 disorder. The DTC broadcast is focused on bipolar, less so on the schizophrenia. So that -- those TV buys happen in pulses, the late spring, then you tend to go down during the summertime and come back again in the fall when new TV shows start coming back out. There's typically a pretty significant lag between the first time you start running the ads and where you start seeing this translate into new prescriptions. And it stands to reason, right? If you see an ad for the first time for something you never heard about before, it's a medicine that requires you and your doctor making a switch, you're not going to, in the next day, go change your prescription. You'll see that ad a few more times. Maybe the next time you see your physician, you can talk about it. Maybe the next time after that, if you're having trouble with your current medications, you might make a change. So there's a reliable time gap between when you begin the process and when you see it starting to translate into new prescriptions. And even in that case, you don't expect a stepwise function 1 quarter. It's just a gradual lift on the brand over its life.
James Talbot
analystRight. And I guess if there's a lag before we see the feed through into scripts, are there other metrics, qualitative things that you're following to give you a sense of how this is impacting the drug and it's profile?
Richard F. Pops
executiveFor sure. You do these campaigns with many outside vendors and consultants and providers who've done this before. So there's a number of leading metrics that you look at as well. Even before you launch the campaign, I mean, you're testing your creative with focus groups, with patient groups, to get a sense of what resonates, and then you start looking at early indicators like website traffic and brand awareness and engagement with the website page and so on. There's a number of different metrics that you would call leading indicators. Those -- from the time you launch, you can see those start to ramp up. So it shouldn't be particularly mysterious.
James Talbot
analystOkay. And I mean, is this something we should see as an ongoing commitment?
Richard F. Pops
executiveYes. I think in a brand like in bipolar and the size of the market, given the fact that -- think about it this way, this is a -- schizophrenia affects about 1% of the human population. So in the U.S., you've got over 3 million. You've got an equivalent number of patients with bipolar. These patients' average length of therapy on an oral medication is about 6 months. So here, they require medicines their whole lives, yet they're switching routinely. Every month, there's something like 70,000 switches. So you never -- your marketing objective is not to go in and displace somebody off of medicine where they're doing well as a patient. You're happy for them. What you want to pick them up is when they're switching. And that's why that compelling message about LYBALVI providing more efficacy is a really powerful one in the switch market.
James Talbot
analystSo you've talked recently about taking a disciplined approach to commercial contracting for LYBALVI, one that balances the revenue opportunity with long-term profitability. Could you talk about the trends that you're seeing for LYBALVI as a result of that in terms of market access?
Richard F. Pops
executiveThis is very situational as well depending on what type of drug you have and what market is competing. In schizophrenia and bipolar disease, there are multiple generics, more than a dozen generics, that people use routinely. Payers are firmly in charge in this category. So when you launch a new drug, after going through all the process, the science and the development and the FDA approval, and you're so excited to bring it to market, you come into a marketplace where you realize payers really have no incentive or interested in introducing this product to patients. So their opening salvo is typically a gigantic amount of rebate in order to get into the formulary. And the way we've chosen the discipline to the contracting that we've done is based on a sequential approach to the market. There are 3 channels. There's the commercial channel, there's Medicare and there's Medicaid. In schizophrenia, Medicare and Medicaid are the critical channels. You have open access in those. So our strategy was to build utilization of the drug in those channels and, in so doing, confirm its clinical profile in practitioners' hands. If our effect -- if the benefit of LYBALVI were modest, then we would have got a sense that it wasn't going to be a particularly important product. But if that benefit is manifested in the real world, in the wild, with the use of this drug, patients and physicians are going to start using it. In which case, you have a different set of dynamics when you sit down with commercial contractors then, because instead of them saying, you know what, you have to pay us to put on the formulary, they're seeing that the drug is being used, and they're going to want contract dollars than -- which they're not getting just by that organic utilization. So it's a story that plays out over 2 or 3 years in the launch. But right now, our gross to nets remain comparatively high. Our access is suppressed to some extent in certain places, but we overcome that by the higher gross to net, and that will give us a different negotiating position as we continue to think about contracting in the commercial space in '24 and '25.
James Talbot
analystGreat. Any questions from the audience on LYBALVI before we move on? Right. Okay. So let's move to ARISTADA. So you're seeing continued sequential growth here in new-to-brand prescriptions. How have you thought about continuing to drive this product in this market?
Richard F. Pops
executiveARISTADA is a long-acting injectable antipsychotic. So like LYBALVI, it's in that category of patients, but it's a completely different medicine because it's administered by injection, which remarkably, in the U.S., most physicians don't use injectable medicines, notwithstanding the fact that the data are so compelling for the use of long-acting injectable medicine to patients with schizophrenia in particular. So it's a more focused marketing approach for a population of physicians who are comfortable or have nurses or nurse practitioners or other caregivers who can administer intramuscular injections in their offices. So the principal attribute of ARISTADA, there are a couple. One is that ARISTADA is a prodrug of aripiprazole, Abilify. So it's an extremely well-known molecule. It's part of every clinician's repertoire. They know its profile. But it's also in the form of ARISTADA presented in a really attractive format because we have a series of different durations of long action, starting from immediate in the form of INITIO, where you can initiate treatment with a long-acting injectable in the clinic, and you can dose it every month or once every 2 months. So particularly during COVID, where patients interactions with caregivers was very limited, the idea of 6 injections a year, providing continuous exposure to a drug that people know and feel comfortable with, is a really compelling offer. So the answer to your question after all that background, we just need to keep espousing the benefits of long-acting injectables for the benefit of patients, many of whom have failed on many, many orals and to demystify the use of injectables in that space. We're there. J&J is there. There's other players now. So doctors are hearing this message more than they ever have. And hopefully, that will continue to be the case.
James Talbot
analystRight. I mean to the comment you just made, there have been a couple of new entrants approved recently. Have you seen an impact in terms of market competitive dynamics from those?
Richard F. Pops
executiveNot yet, no. And I don't know whether we will. These molecules are quite different. So -- but I think the base condition is that more promotional activity for the use of long-acting injectables would be good for patients and probably good for the market as well.
James Talbot
analystOkay. Good. Moving on to VIVITROL, so you recently announced a settlement with Teva around the patent litigation you've had ongoing there for a while. Could you just talk about your views on that outcome and then how you see the trajectory for VIVITROL in light of that settlement?
Richard F. Pops
executiveWell, we settled with Teva on generic entry in 2027 for them. And we were pleased with the outcome. We -- if you follow this story over the last several years, we've always been quite strong in our belief, in the strength of our intellectual property around VIVITROL. And so I think if people had handicapped it a year ago at this time, before we went into trial, they would have thought that we were likely to lose that trial. I think we came out of the trial quite strong. So I think that both Teva and we saw advantages to settling rather than continuing to litigate. And that date, 2027 gives us -- we were thrilled with that, '23, '24, '25, '26, continue to build VIVITROL and also begin to get a sense of what the market might look post 2027. Because this is not a market. Alcohol dependence and opioid dependence is characterized by a lot as new drug discovery. Old drugs last a long time in this space. There's no reason that our priority is that you need to see generic entry eroding a significant market because the table stakes are quite high to play in this game. VIVITROL is a long-acting injectable polymer-based system that's made using aseptic emulsion technology, dry sterile powder fills, it's high degree of difficulty stuff. And we've never expected there to be multiple ANDA players here. So now we have a few more years to watch that play out. So we're thrilled with that outcome.
James Talbot
analystOkay. Great. You've seen some shift in demand over the last couple of years between opioid dependence and alcohol dependence. How do you see that balance going forward? And I guess as you think about opioid dependence, is there something -- is there other specific market dynamics that are holding you back?
Richard F. Pops
executiveIt's a tragedy that VIVITROL isn't used more in opioid. It's a testament to the failure of our country to deal with the opioid crisis. And if that sounds hyperbolic, I intentionally say so, because 100,000 people are going to die of opioid overdose death still. It's so ingrained in the population and the people aren't horrified by it anymore. Fentanyl is ramping in urban centers and in the countryside. And VIVITROL is an opioid receptor antagonist administered once monthly. Patients detoxify, they get monthly injections and it prevents relapse to opioid dependence. That's actually its label, prevents relapsed opioid dependence. But the dominant way we treat opioid dependence in this country is by giving people opioids in the form of methadone or Suboxone, important medicines, life-saving medicines, but they are agonists or partial agonists, and it's a different philosophical approach than detoxification and antagonist therapy. VIVITROL is not right for every patient, hardly, but it also is an alternative that should be used more. Interestingly, the philosophical divide, agonist versus antagonist, that exist in opioid does not exist in alcohol. In alcohol, it was more of the inertia of rest where we never really treated alcohol dependence with medicines in our country. We treat it typically with 12-step programs. But as more patients and more physicians and more care centers, I think, were dealing with the opioid crisis and learning to use what's called medication-assisted treatment, counseling plus medicines, it's relevant that the treatment of alcohol, I think, became more and more clear. So we're seeing alcohol as a huge problem in the country and in the world. It's actually bigger than the opioid problem, but it's so endemic that people don't pay as much attention to it. But I think that the public health benefit of a drug like VIVITROL in alcohol is very strong.
James Talbot
analystGreat. So let's move to the pipeline. 2680, your orexin program for sleep disorders, could you just start us off talking about how you see the market opportunity for this program?
Richard F. Pops
executiveFirst of all, I just want to note that we're 15 or 20 minutes into the conversation and we're just now talking about orexin, which makes it a first at this conference, in recent conferences. The investor interest in orexin is so high. It's fascinating to see. And I think it's because the setup, the clinical and the commercial conditions and the relevance of the intervention to the inherent biology is all so clear. So we have a drug called 2680 that's in the clinic right now. We'll be presenting data at the World Sleep Conference in Rio de Janeiro at the end of October. I think many people are focused on that presentation. We have a very data-rich Phase I program underway right now that has 3 components to it: single-ascending dose to get maximum exposures to determine a maximum tolerated dose in healthy volunteers, coupled with a multiple-ascending dose study where patients received 10 daily doses of that drug at ascending doses, all of which were a prerequisite then to testing in patients with narcolepsy type 1 and narcolepsy type 2. And for World Sleep, we should have our first cohort of patients with narcolepsy type 1 looking at efficacy end points. And more than that, I think the way we've designed the study is that each of those patients, and there will be a small number of them, but each patient serves as their own control, and they will be exposed to multiple single doses. So we'll get a sense of dose response as well as the shape over time of that curve to the extent that the product is efficacious in these patients. There's a lot to learn in the next little bit on this program.
James Talbot
analystFantastic. I think there was an abstract came out recently that gave some early details on the safety profile, perhaps you could just comment on that.
Richard F. Pops
executiveYes. The abstract deadline for World Sleep was back in June, I think it was. So we simply summarized what we saw in our multiple-ascending dose and single-ascending dose, healthy volunteer data prior to getting the patient data. So -- and then we also have separate abstracts on some of the preclinical work as well. So those -- I think that we're very pleased with the safety profile that we've seen in the humans so far. We're not -- in that first single-ascending dose study that I referred to, we never reached a maximum tolerated dose. And in fact, we truncated to move into the multiple-ascending dose study, knowing that we'll probably go back to that single-ascending dose study to see whether we can establish the upper limit. But we're very pleased with the tolerability so far. But there'll be no substitute for getting to patients and seeing how patients with the disease do with the drugs.
James Talbot
analystGreat. And how should we think about the competitive landscape for this program?
Richard F. Pops
executiveI think about it in this way, I think that it deserves the attention. And so we know that Takeda has a major program and other players are developing molecules in the space. It's one of the places where the chemistry is quite restricted. It's -- there's not a lot of chemical diversity that we're finding that can interrogate this particular biological system. You're asking to make a small molecule drug that can be taken orally. They get on the GI system into the blood stream, cross the blood-brain barrier, get into the brain and then not just block a receptor, be an agonist of the G-protein-coupled receptor, which is a complex thing to do. And if you're able to do all that, and do it in a way where you come on to the receptor in the morning and come off of it by the time you go to bed at night. Because you're actually fundamentally affecting the sleep-wake cycle with these agents. So in terms of molecular design problem, it's quite a complicated landscape. And so I think that the products are going to -- I think not everybody is going to be able to play. And if you're able to come in and test, I think the drugs are going to differentiate pretty significantly.
James Talbot
analystGreat. Any questions on 2680 or any of the other products we've covered so far? No, great. Okay, so let's move to the separation of the oncology business. Look, maybe you could just talk a little bit about what we should expect from the remaining Alkermes business once the separation of oncology is completed in terms of profitability, any other things that you're focused on.
Richard F. Pops
executiveI'd say that the motive force, the fundamental hydraulics that drove the spin of the oncology business -- or the separation of the oncology business was the quality of the neuroscience business as it was emerging with the launch of LYBALVI. What became very clear is then with LYBALVI as part of the model, if we could resolve the VIVITROL uncertainty around the ANDA litigation, ARISTADA, VIVITROL, LYBALVI, drives a very nice top line, growing profitability with pipeline asset in 2680 and science and proven capabilities behind that. The oncology spend was significant and distracting from investors who were interested in the CNS assets in a protracted way. So what we're hopeful to do is complete separation in 2023 so that when we guide in 2024, in February, it's for a clean stand-alone neuroscience company. I think people are going to be excited to see the profitability that's inherent in that business that we can achieve while still funding R&D. And think about building this company in a way that's much more. I think something that -- a pattern that people will recognize rather than an amalgam of different additives that we've historically been.
James Talbot
analystYes. So look, obviously, a process that we, as a firm, are pretty close to, but perhaps for the audience, you could just talk about how the preparation activities are coming together for Mural to be a new public company.
Richard F. Pops
executiveIt's surprisingly complicated. On the white board, it seems like a very good idea. You take one circle and you break it into two circles and say, well, there you go. But there are literally tens of thousands of documents that need to be repurposed, contracts that need to be reexecuted, quality systems that need to be -- physical plant that need to be separated, teams, HR issues, notwithstanding, on the outside, SEC and IRS interactions that lead to a tax-free spin of a new independent publicly traded company. That's been going on in earnest for the last year. We're about done with all that external stuff, which puts them in a position to be able to dividend out. If we complete this, we'll dividend out the shares in Mural to our shareholders before the end of the year.
James Talbot
analystGreat. So next, I guess, moving to capital allocation. You've got a strong balance sheet. You will be a profitable -- strongly and profitable company going forward after the separation. How should we think about capital allocation, in particular, business development? How does that play into the strategy? And if that's a part of the strategy, again, how should we think about your focus areas for that?
Richard F. Pops
executiveSo where we are right now, we have a strong balance sheet. We have some debt that we'll pay back. And so if you assume that -- the first use of capital allocation, we repaid debt. And then the way I think about it conceptually is that you're going to fill a couple of buckets. One bucket you're going to fill is going to be strategic cash on the balance sheet that you can use for tuck-in type of acquisitions, licensing, product specific deals. And then as that bucket fills, you're still having other options with respect to share repurchase or other things that one can do. That will progress over time as we generate more cash going forward. Resolution, the J&J arbitration, in our favor. Good step in the favor of the Teva resolution, a good step in our favor. So we're beginning to model at the Board level now how we might distribute capital or allocate capital across those scenarios. There is no freestanding major biotechnology company that's done everything with their own R&D. And when the markets get tumultuous as they've been and will continue for a bit, that's when you can acquire assets. We don't have a capacity right now to expand our R&D burn in a significant way because we have profitability targets that we're committed to hitting. As the business grows, as the revenue line grow, your ability to accommodate more spend grows as well. So we're always mindful of looking at situations in the market, private or public where you see just screaming values that you take advantage of. But job one right now is completing the spin and separation of the oncology, funding the 2680 program to see where we are in the orexin program, and that will open a lot of doors for us if those break the way we want them to.
James Talbot
analystGreat. The profitability targets you stated for 2024 and 2025, could you just talk about how to think about -- how should we think about those in terms of levers in delivering on those targets?
Richard F. Pops
executiveWell, we set those targets before we knew the resolution of J&J, before we knew what was going to happen with Teva, before we even knew how LYBALVI was launching. So what we decided as a Board and a management team, we said we will manage the expense line to accommodate those targets because we want to demonstrate to shareholders that we could manage this business, which had significant revenues in a profitable way. It's sure a heck of a lot easier now with some of the things that are -- LYBALVI launching the way it's launched, VIVITROL in the model through -- all the way through '26 into '27. And now with ARISTADA and VIVITROL and LYBALVI with multiple elements. Plus, with VUMERITY doing well in Biogen's hands, we have a number of elements in the P&L that makes sense to us now. So as we model going forward, we have a number of different ways to manage expenses or grow expenses in order to hit those targets while still building the business.
James Talbot
analystGreat. Final opportunity for questions from the audience. I guess with that, Rich, we've got a minute left. Any final closing remarks you'd like to make here?
Richard F. Pops
executiveI think it's -- you go through periods of time when the company is building, but the stock may not be a great stock because you're in that interregnum where you're passing the baton from one business model to another. I'm hopeful that we're coming out of that now with us. There's still risk associated with it, for sure, right? There's always -- the risks you know, for example, how does 2680 look in the clinic? We don't know that. There's risk you don't know, like the Inflation Reduction Act or other things happening. But the secret to trying to build a business for the long haul here is having a number of non-covariant assets that are all growing, but no single thing can knock you out of the ring with a couple real blockbuster potential things in the hopper. And that's -- I sort of feel like that's where we are right now. So with all these admonishments that are appropriate with respect to the risk of this business inherently, I think people within Alkermes are feeling really optimistic right now.
James Talbot
analystGreat. I think that's a great place to leave it. It's been a pleasure talking to you. Thanks for joining us. Thank you.
Richard F. Pops
executiveThank you, James.
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