Allegion plc (ALLE) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

February 20, 2020

New York Stock Exchange US Industrials Building Products conference_presentation 32 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#1

Great. Well, thanks, everyone, for attending the fireside chat. It's my pleasure to have next Allegion, Dave Petratis, Chairman, President and CEO; and of course, many of you also know Tom Martineau. So welcome back. Dave, thanks very much for coming. Maybe just give us some updates of the -- some of the secular moves that you're seeing in the access control industry. Particularly on the residential side, I think there's been a swath of new product launches [Audio Gap] out there. Discuss maybe some of those and also where you stand on the relationship [Audio Gap] some of the Internet service providers that are moving into that home security [Audio Gap]

David Petratis

executive
#2

So at Allegion, we define the electronic conversions as seamless access. In my 40 years of industrial activity, it's just a great opportunity in terms of the growth opportunity in the marketplace. You may have heard me say this, there's 40 billion doors in the world. Only about 5% of them are connected. And that's our opportunity. As we think about the world and where Allegion plays in terms of seamless access, some of the fastest convergence is going on in the world. In the Asia Pacific, Korea would be the most advanced. We're there with our Milre business at almost 70% penetration. China is moving quickly from a low point, let's say, 5% penetration, could potentially get to 50%. Certainly, in the next decade, it could be faster than that. The U.S., all-in, both residential and institutional, we would say, moves at about 10%. The fastest convergence is moving in residential, then multifamily. Institutional, commercial about half of that. And Europe, really moving the slowest. So big opportunity. I like the way Allegion's positioned. There are new entrants to the market, especially in the res side of it. I've told -- I suggested in the meetings today, if you went to the 2018 Consumer Electronics Show, there were over 200 new entrants of security locks. That sorted it out -- itself out a year down to 100. There's a level of complexity, connectivity, battery life and duty cycle that I think is maybe underestimated in terms of entry into this market. You can also throw channels in there as well. But -- and that complexity moves up as you move into the commercial and institutional. And I can't emphasize that enough. If you take U.S. res, it's a relatively homogenous, how you get into your home or through your garage. But as you move into the complexity of a building like this, it ramps up significantly. When you get to Europe, some of the mechanical challenges are unique from market to market. And it's because of the width of the door, the width of the cylinder. These are natural barriers to entry, and each market presents different challenges.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#3

Got it. And within residential, you maybe weren't the biggest earliest mover with some of those ISPs coming in, hold up nicely as that market has [Audio Gap] go through some of it [Audio Gap] problems. How do you assess that penetration curve today? And maybe just remind us some of your main partnerships across that ISP [Audio Gap].

David Petratis

executive
#4

So we were one of the earliest transcend into electronic locks, units of push buttons. First player, Siri, open the lock, which was pretty incredible. As the ISPs became more present in the space, Amazon, Google, I would put us in a position of fast follower. In some cases, that was very sound on our part. Think about the introduction of Amazon Key. I think in the first 72 hours, it was presented and withdrawn from the marketplace. There's -- sometimes in business, you want to be -- lead with your chin. You want to be the first. I think that's a clear example where we saw weaknesses in the operating system that value -- violated one of our primary business drivers, and that's keep the families and areas safe. So today, well penetrated, well integrated, Amazon, Google, Apple, Alibaba. It's an important part of what we do. And it's part of the complexity, it's what I call the spaghetti. When you're in connecting with the IoT in home networks and these mega-techs, this is not necessarily just an easy path.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#5

What challenges does dealing with that partner set presents in terms of pricing something that we assume from the outside that must be in that [Audio Gap] to what extent is that true? And what are some of the other hurdles that maybe make you and some of your industry [Audio Gap] is layering [Audio Gap] partners there?

David Petratis

executive
#6

So Julian, for an old guy like me, sometimes you got to step back and say, "Well, what else is the role of these players?" Amazon wants to sell you commercial goods. Apple wants to sell you more Apple devices. Google really wants more about the data and the information. So where are these players positioned and what's opportunistic for Allegion? Think about last-mile delivery. Amazon, pretty important in that. Both on a connectivity basis, am I going to allow you in the door or ease of access, but also from a commercial standpoint, we spend a lot of products through Amazon. So a play there. When I think about Google, it's all about the access and management of data and how do we position there. I think they've been less aggressive an early mover with the Nest technology. Has that really been a play that has driven substantial growth? I'd say, probably not. I would say Apple HomeKit, again, we were the first company to be positioned, Siri, open the lock, and they squandered maybe that position which they're trying to retreat for. So each one brings a unique set of capabilities. Allegion has been very firm from the beginning that we would be open in terms of our connectivity capability and interfaces. And I think that's differentiated us early and then remembering our value proposition. You may not want Alexa opening the door if you're on the front curb of your home with a megaphone. Think about that.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#7

Yes.

David Petratis

executive
#8

Alexa, open the door. Well, is it your voice, is it my voice? These are little details that we sweat that we think are important. We do think as we move forward, our edge devices, our cellphones, our smart devices will be important interfaces that have to be based on security and reliability. That answer your question?

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#9

Yes, that's very clear.

David Petratis

executive
#10

Again, you go back to me, what are the position of these players and how are they -- how do they derive profits from their ecosystems and how can I maximize that is something we've spent time thinking deeply about.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#11

Your view would be, yes, to an extent you deal with each of them on their own term, like negotiating [Audio Gap] figuring out next steps, you've got to look at [Audio Gap]

David Petratis

executive
#12

Even farther, we have our strategy around seamless access and what we call the 1 page plan. One of the objectives is to be a partner of choice. That's at the mega-tech, that's at the integrated level, and that's at the wholesale level. And I'd say, especially with these mega-tech relationship, it's still being defined.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#13

That's clear. And if we look at overall sort of electromechanical growth, pretty healthy again in the [Audio Gap] is finished. What do you think is a good sort of 3- to 5-year assumption we should dial in, in the Americas or globally for [Audio Gap]

David Petratis

executive
#14

I think we put up a very strong year in the Americas. I think that continues moving forward. I think you can take your GDP number, we'll do better from -- with that and then need to add in this electronic conversion. So we'd say low single digits, 3% to 5%, I think is what we've got out there.

Tom Martineau

executive
#15

Plus the GDP. You're talking about electronics growth?

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#16

Yes.

Tom Martineau

executive
#17

Yes. Looking into the high single-digit.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#18

High single-digit electronic.

Tom Martineau

executive
#19

You can get into maybe the low double.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#20

Yes.

Tom Martineau

executive
#21

Depends on the adoption and acceleration.

David Petratis

executive
#22

I think, I'd just challenge it. Go around your neighborhoods, the perimeters of buildings, electronics and seamless access, you see it, but when you get inside of a complex structure, pick a college campus, this is still territory to be grown and developed.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#23

What are the main barriers for that [Audio Gap] going to pitch for your [Audio Gap] get more electronic access control in large commercial [Audio Gap] How those conversations -- you've been charge of Allegion since the spinout from Ingersoll. How has that conversation changed [Audio Gap] large [Audio Gap] nonresidential?

David Petratis

executive
#24

Let's talk institutional, especially K-12 and college campus. There's a dialogue going on, on every campus on the continent around security, physical security access. It involves everything from the PTA to the local police department, fire and response because security is on the minds of Americans. You move into the college areas, you need to be ready for assault. And we saw that in the U.K. last night. Security and preparedness is in the minds of the world and Americans. You see it in bond issues. Typically in the institutional situation, school districts will go to the voters and say, "We want to make a large capital allocation to increase infrastructure." Allegion is involved with the preparation of that bond proposal that -- I think, last November, there were hundreds of millions of dollars on the ballot. I think just in the state of Texas, there was like 80 propositions, and they generally are approved in an overwhelming rate. So there's a catalyst there. There's also a long cycle time. Once it is approved, then we go to work. That could be 12 to 24 months of deployment. One that I was intimately involved with, a small college campus in Western Iowa, about 10,000 students, 1,500 openings. That process took about 36 months. And heavily electronic, multiple campuses, if you have a lockdown situation, you may be pressing a button in even a different town or city. Think about a sprawling college campus, how do I improve my infrastructure? Another thing that I think is interesting, think about your favorite college campus. If they have a physics building, why is the physics building wide open 16 hours a day? Does it have to be? Seamless access gives us the ability, if I'm registered for physics class, my edge device will allow me into that building and maybe to the exact floor and room. And you just limited exposures to the building, to potential thefts and other threats that can be exposed. Why is Allegion unique to that? We have a unique position on every opening. And the complexity of that opening can get quite deep depending on the application that we're trying to solve, introduce then connectivity. And I like our opportunity.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#25

And if you look at the margin rate [Audio Gap] electromechanical field, is that sort of playing out largely as you expected? I realize you don't [Audio Gap] out in the financial [Audio Gap] Maybe just talk about the evolution of the profitability of that?

Tom Martineau

executive
#26

Yes. I mean I think the way we look at it, the electronics gives us an opportunity to do a higher average sales price. We expect to be able to drive that. But even at maybe similar margins on the mechanical side, as you're introducing the products, it gives you that benefit of the lift. We like that position.

David Petratis

executive
#27

I think, too, you take, like, the Schlage Encode, which has been wildly successful. You log on today, that's a $225 lock versus a mechanical lock that might go to $125. The margin play there is nice. Higher selling price with a consistent gross margin.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#28

And how the -- you mentioned, Dave, a few minutes ago, the number of new entrants [Audio Gap] but it's large and maybe [Audio Gap] coming [Audio Gap] out. What does that mean for your R&D [Audio Gap] think that as a share of sales, R&D [Audio Gap] spending more every year, but your sales are growing [Audio Gap]

David Petratis

executive
#29

We have consistently stepped up our investment in the company to be able to drive growth in new products as well as channel segmentation almost every year. I think there's an inherent step up year-to-year because of the changes in electronics, the ability to stay current with the mega-techs. Every time Apple upgrades a degree from 13.1 to 13.2, we've got potential changes in our software stacks to make sure that's there. So you've got ongoing investment. The opportunity in that is a couple. One is electronics, from an engineering perspective, are good for about 7 years. Technically, they're good for about 15 years. Battery, circuit series degrade. You introduce an area of obsolescence that we may not have enjoyed in the past. Think about the house you grew up in, same key, same lock, probably for the entire time. As you introduce electronics, you get obsolescence that I like, that I think will be opportunistic for Allegion. As you're creating the ability to source data and develop new forms of access through edge devices, it opens up new opportunities to grow the business, potentially extract rents, new ways to optimize spaces and access that I think are compelling.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#30

How do you assess, from a cyclical standpoint, now where we sit in the Americas right now in terms of non-res, commercial, institutional and residential? You've been talking for maybe 18 months about commercial, multifamily particularly maybe softening. How do you see those 3 [Audio Gap]?

David Petratis

executive
#31

So let's start with commercial. Little long in the tooth, I guess, we could say. I think you've also got some huge pressures on commercial because of the pressures of e-commerce. Opportunistically, that -- those spaces will be redeployed, retransformed. But it's certainly peakish to build itself off. I don't think it's crashing either. I think the light commercial, multifamily has had legs and will continue to have legs. As we've gone, people are moving into the city. Unique for Allegion is our ability to, in a mixed-use facility, solve the potential complex problems on the commercial side or the first couple floors and then connect that as you go up into residential living. We're unique in our ability to provide the full gamut of products there as well as connectivity for a building manager. As you move into institutional, I think this has still got lots of legs. All of these drivers are constrained by labor. I think early on, like 2015, 2016, I started talking about constraints on labor in terms of skilled trades and the ability to put capital in place for new building infrastructure. That just snowplows. And I look at some key drivers. One is ADI. I think it's at a 52 today. The backlog of construction projects is at over 9 months. Again, it's come off a little bit, but it's still historic highs. Our own specification capability, which we're involved in a lot, feels extremely solid. And I think factually solid. So we like where we're at in the Americas.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#32

Switching outside the Americas. Obviously, there's some volatility in [Audio Gap] quarters, I guess in [Audio Gap] Asia, EMEA region. Maybe help us understand what are the -- okay, both had so-so Q4, it's 1 quarter, so no one is that far. But what are the differences or similarities in the issue [Audio Gap] have in [Audio Gap] some structural, some just purely cyclical, how do you sort of drive [Audio Gap]?

David Petratis

executive
#33

I've been very clear in defining Allegion. We're subscale, Europe and Asia. We're the challenger. So you behave differently. Over the 7 years, we've made portfolio adjustments, tried to optimize that acquisition's investment. You go to Asia Pacific, we acquired GWA that gave us a higher exposure to residential, coupled with a very solid commercial business. GWA was an asset that's only going to come around once in a lifetime, either you move. We like the strategic rationale for expansion there. Residential electronics in Australia is underdeveloped, maybe less than 5% penetration. So you like that acquisition. Then you run into a downturn in the residential, throw in the fires, throw in some government change on investment and you end up with a disappointing, really, second half in that market. I think Australia is going to be tough for another year. I think they'll get the stimulus right, get their integration right, that will come back in. China is more of a conundrum. Here, you face the wrath of these new entrants. You see a lot of bundling. Clearly questions, is China in it for Allegion for the long haul, especially residential. 24 months ago, we've got some of our products in there. It's been relatively successful. But throw in the tariffs, throw in some slowdown in the Chinese economy and the ability to get paid in China, and you step back and say, "Is this a good use of our resources?" I think the whole Asia-Pacific going to be challenging in 2020. We've already gone in and made some pretty aggressive adjustments to that infrastructure, and we'll continue to ask questions about the portfolio. If you move to Europe, let's go back first time we met, we made literally no money in Europe.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#34

Yes.

David Petratis

executive
#35

We pushed that up to the 10% rate. That's predominantly been through electronics, SimonsVoss, Interflex. And then, we put together a pretty nice GPS business in portable locking and connectivity. Our challenge is mechanical. We're in the -- our key markets are Southern Europe, and they tend to be more volatile and more price competitive. The strength of the company would be our CISA brand in Italy. In Europe, we traditionally have a strong fourth quarter finish, driven by software renewal subscriptions with our Interflex business and project-based work with our SimonsVoss. And as the German economy slowed down, those subscriptions were not renewed with people like Volkswagen, Continental Teves, BMW. So we saw that -- those declines in revenue and some of the project work that was loaded in got soft. Couple that with just weakness in the overall mechanical position, you end up with the fourth quarter. Tom lived through it. He may have some more detail.

Tom Martineau

executive
#36

No, I would say it was tough. We've seen some of that in Italy. You've gone through probably recessionary times in the last couple of years and now seeing some of the slowdown in the German economy. Our Interflex business is definitely tied to the automotive industry, where we have a product fits very well into that element. It spans past that in other verticals, but that's probably where the core and where it had some help. We had also gone through a large transformation from our Turkish facility in that region.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#37

Yes.

Tom Martineau

executive
#38

And we've -- Dave would tell us, right, in terms of getting out and executing, very good in terms of risk mitigation; clearly was the right move for us. And we've had a tremendous amount of effort to move that into other facilities, get the start-up and that's what we're seeing right now. So in Q4, you got some of these start-up costs that were probably inefficiencies. We're starting to work through that. But we feel good about it in the long run, probably take us through the first part of this year to get through that and get us back to where we need to be.

David Petratis

executive
#39

I want to just -- extremely proud of our ability to execute that. It was 300 jobs. We got out of there. Nobody was thrown in jail. These are political events when you -- but 300 jobs, there's good productivity baked into that. They sold the land, the business, so completely out. Any time you move 300 jobs, hundreds of tools, change your supply base, there's going to be some sand in the gears just from the human learning curve. We'll gain momentum as we go through the first half of 2020 that will ultimately strengthen our supply chains for the mechanical in our European base.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#40

When you think, Dave, about -- and some about the next steps in those 2 regions. APAC, it sounds like [Audio Gap] waiting for that market to turn in Australia. And then China, you've got some thinking around [Audio Gap] EMEA what's the next [Audio Gap] because you may have muted [Audio Gap] you sort of actively scanning for a lot more [Audio Gap] now to get that [Audio Gap] up.

David Petratis

executive
#41

I would say the acquisition pipeline in Europe remains robust, but it's much more heavily tilted towards electronics and middle work. The market's growing there, new capabilities are emerging. Europe will be slower in its electronic convergence, but it will come and -- versus picking up more mechanical companies, more thought going into how we can be well positioned as we have done with SimonsVoss and Interflex. We run those businesses nicely, and that's where the market is going.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#42

Yes. If you think about capital deployment more broadly, I think the buyback has moved up a bit. Why, I guess, haven't -- from the outside, I guess, it looks like maybe you could or should have done more acquisitions in the last 18 months [Audio Gap] with market share, x amount [Audio Gap] technology developments [Audio Gap]. Maybe help us understand why the M&A has been [Audio Gap] less and buyback sort of [Audio Gap]

David Petratis

executive
#43

I would say, when we deploy financial and human capital, it's important that we get those returns. I have no buyer's remorse. Deals that would have gone anywhere in the world that we didn't get. I think, too, we've sharpened our strategy around this concept of seamless access and shifted from mechanical apparatus more to the sort of the electronics, and I'd say, we're disciplined. That's -- if they were there, we've moved on it. You haven't seen the ones where I've put request out there, and the seller hasn't agreed to move, but M&A in the right areas is important for the future of Allegion.

Tom Martineau

executive
#44

Yes. It's important just to remember, we're in a really good spot on the balance sheet, right?

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#45

Yes.

Tom Martineau

executive
#46

So it's between good cash generation that's consistent over time. And I don't think there's anything different than the capital allocation policy, right? Leverage has come down. We've always said that we'll naturally delever in the context of anything else. So it's probably more of a -- we're not going to just hoard the cash. It's -- we want to put it back to use. And if that turns into some buybacks, then -- that toggle is there, but acquisition clearly is still on the map.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#47

I think, the funnel or pipeline of acquisition [Audio Gap] so it's still [Audio Gap] and maybe that tighter focus on [Audio Gap].

David Petratis

executive
#48

I think the funnel is solid. The relationship building is -- when we created the business 7 years ago, there was nothing. And so we're at a level of capability there. And I think it's important that you are patient. There's always things out there you can buy for a price. And we try to remain disciplined in terms of where we want to go. Organic investments too, I think, we've been -- shown that we can invest in technology segment of business, add human resources and get an excellent return to expand margins.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#49

Great. Well, if there are no questions [Audio Gap] from the audience, maybe we'll switch [Audio Gap] audience response [Audio Gap] survey, please. So the first one is around, you currently own the stock [Audio Gap] slightly less popular than a year ago. Number two...

David Petratis

executive
#50

We need to make believers out of the this audience.

Tom Martineau

executive
#51

Opportunity.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#52

What's the general bias [Audio Gap] stock right now [Audio Gap] favorable [Audio Gap] or three [Audio Gap] how to you assess the through-cycle EPS growth for Allegion relative to [Audio Gap] average [Audio Gap] #4...

David Petratis

executive
#53

I think we get that #1 because we've got a pretty good track record.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#54

[Audio Gap] 4x the [Audio Gap] expect to have [Audio Gap] What should Allegion do with the excess cash [Audio Gap] And larger M&A [Audio Gap] #5, what multiple should Allegion trade at [Audio Gap] close to [Audio Gap] and the last question, what's the biggest reason why you don't own [Audio Gap] full growth?

David Petratis

executive
#55

It's the top-line.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#56

I think. Yes. Great. Thank you very much.

David Petratis

executive
#57

Thank you, Julian. It's my pleasure. Good to see you.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#58

Thank you.

Tom Martineau

executive
#59

Well appreciated.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#60

Thank you.

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