American International Group, Inc. (AIG) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 14, 2020

New York Stock Exchange US Financials Insurance conference_presentation 61 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Brian Meredith

analyst
#1

Afternoon, everybody. This is Brian Meredith. I am the Senior North American Insurance Analyst here with UBS. And welcome to our final, but clearly not the -- clearly, one of the highlights here of our Virtual Insurance Conference with AIG. With us today from AIG, we've got Dave McElroy, who is the CEO of the North American General Insurance Operations as well as Sabra Purtill, who is the Deputy CFO as well as in charge of Investor Relations. I want to remind everybody that if you'd like to ask a question, you can e-mail me and my e-mail address either is on the bottom of your screen, if you're coming in via webcast here or you can e-mail me at [email protected]. So feel free to shoot me an e-mail. So David and Sabra, thank you for joining us this afternoon for a virtual conference. I know, Dave, you've got some prepared comments you want to kick off with, and then I'll jump into the question.

David McElroy

executive
#2

Thank you, Brian. And thank you, Sabra. Thank you, everyone. I'm David McElroy. I've been at AIG for now 1.5 years. I always -- we go right at it. I always assume there’s some skepticism around AIG. I also assume that you've -- everybody's read and seen the work that was done over the last year and 1.5 years, when Brian and Peter arrived and the fact that they built out a team, and they did it in an unapologetic way of understanding that underwriting actually mattered and that the way insurance companies were valued by investors going forward would be more about underwriting profit and expecting the fact that investment income will be there, but it also is going to be compressed by yields and frankly, the -- what might be the unknown down the line. So they charged me, and I started with Lexington, and I ended up with financial lines in Agrium and then North America because I have some experience with that was to be disciplined around underwriting. And it's actually -- the clarity of it was very clear, okay? We had too much limits at risk. We had too much limits underpriced. We had businesses that we were chasing top line and quarterly revenue instead of profits. And they gave me the -- they gave the team the authority. One thing that happened was we had 10 new managers coming in, running these significant businesses. There's -- we're talking about $14 billion of revenue, bigger than most worldwide companies, and we were given the authority to do the right thing and to actually underwrite appropriately. We reconstituted businesses. We set incentives in the right way. We told the leaders to go do and become underwriters. The effect of that is what I think you saw, if you watched in last year, is this is an industry that builds confidence over the years. So the efforts that we did with Lexington and Agrium and our programs business have reconstituted them and given the authority showed up in the first quarter and in fact, it showed up in the second quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter, where the industry accepted the fact and we stayed disciplined instead of chasing a top line. The effect of that actually allowed what I think to be a refit -- retrofit of our portfolio. We were able to lease, say, terms and conditions. But basically, by taking out close to $250 billion of limits exposed with a modest trade-off in premium and then powering rate is this is a different book than it was a year ago. We also recognize insurance has a lag effect, and we got through this first quarter, I think, fairly effectively. In fact, with rate on rate from what we had done before. The -- which does set up the picture that I think I'm trying to portray, which was if this work hadn't been done, we would have been much more vulnerable in 2019 to the COVID-19 versus where we are today, where I would attest to you that we're 85% to 90% confident around this portfolio that we built. The limits that we have exposed, the portfolio management that is subtle and behind the scenes that an underwriter cares about that may not be evident necessarily to the external world in terms of balancing middle market, placements, excess, mid-excess, shorter limits, terms and conditions. All those things were actually in play in 2019. I'm also sanguine enough to know that I always feel like I needed -- we always need like at least 2 years to get through the true full underwriting of that. That said, this is a better portfolio and a defendable portfolio going into a very uncertain period of time. So I just think it's important because I'm -- I've seen AIG since the credit crisis, and I've seen a number of different theories of the case. I've seen scientists. I've seen go limit, go big, go large, go no reinsurance, okay? The insurance team here has a very strong view of what is a portfolio that mitigates volatility yet captures the asset that exists today, not only globally, but also the specific businesses that have, I'd always put it, unimpeachable power, primary, lead umbrella, it's not excess. Excess is a commodity. I'll probably live with that one attached to my name for many years. But we have a -- there's the power of pricing and the power of franchise attached to AIG. It's just this group actually is recognizing it and working with it. So with that, Brian, I know that's a little bit of an advertisement, but it's what I've seen and believe. So...

Brian Meredith

analyst
#3

Great. Great. So Dave, the first question I want to ask, I'm asking everybody. And the question is this, if we look out 12 months from now and we take a look back and we say, all right, what was the impact of COVID-19 on P&C insurance industry? And what do you think the long-term implications could be? And then how will AIG kind of respond to that or positioned within that?

David McElroy

executive
#4

The -- ouch. The -- so the first -- thank you. The first part is we've learned to work from home, I think like everybody. The second part is I probably missed my business dinners in New York, which I'll never go back to now. The -- let's see. The COVID-19, and I think everybody feels it, and I apologize for an attack, but everybody has an opinion right now. This is the developing CAT with no tail. So from a country, from a product, from a distance, time and distance, from a government intervention, both positive and negative, we have a lot of unknowns, okay? What I do think that we are looking at from our standpoint is we have certain products that are going to be affected both on the revenue side as well as the loss side. We're trying to think about that as we revisit our 2020 plan. The unknowns or -- this is going to leak into every quarter. There's going to be news every quarter, okay? There's going to be surprises every quarter. There's going to be capital surprises. There's going to be unknown losses that were not foreseen. There's going to be reinsurance questions that were not contemplated. The -- that's what's going to happen on the loss side. On the revenue side, we clearly have less exposures, and we can go through those in a certain period of time. You have to price for those. You also have a regulatory issue that is -- and I put it this way, positive and negative. The negative is they're going to want return premiums even if the product isn't profitable. They're going to be prescriptive around that, okay? The positive is they may actually keep a number of small businesses in place and survive them with PPP and other things that would have been tipping into bankruptcy or tipping into problems, and we need to respect that and frankly, honor that. The -- that regulatory regime, honestly, Brian, is the unknown, and it can be -- it's changing every day. In North America, it's a 50-state quilt, of which there's followers. Internationally, it has a different perspective. The -- there is -- each of these businesses is probably going to be affected, I think, almost by quarter. That's literally how we're building out our thinking is what's going to happen here? What's going to happen with travel? What's going to happen with workers' comp? Is it essential workers? Is it -- does it expand to full -- all employees? Are we invalidating the law? Does it get challenged? That's the extraordinary uncertainty of this event. Second part, I always come back to, does this invite capital like on the macro basis, which is what we always think, does it invite capital? I -- it's circling around right now. I am -- it's circling around right now. That's a double.

Brian Meredith

analyst
#5

Okay.

David McElroy

executive
#6

But I do think -- and this is -- and I've been there in '01, and I've seen '05. The reality of capital coming in now is it always comes in as reinsurance and excess capacity, okay? And maybe that's my sales pitch for AIG. We inhabit primary positions. We inhabit, I call upon, salable positions, primary D&O, lead umbrellas, okay, significant capacity in retail, Lexington property, Lexington casualty. I've also experienced where you come in as capacity, it does have value, we would always respect that value. But that has a different attack point. And I just want to -- I respect it. I want to make a point about it. It might be first party, it's third party. We understand what might be happening with capital on the ILS side. It's -- but this is that -- this is the fear and the environment we're in right now. And I -- we're reading it every day, and we have experts every day. I'm going -- we're going to live in this moment of our portfolio. So...

Brian Meredith

analyst
#7

Makes sense. So let's pivot a little bit. You touched on it briefly. So the economic slowdown that we're seeing, it -- what impact are we going to see on the North American commercial lines, book of business? Top line? Which lines are going to be kind of most impacted as you're going into your -- revisiting your 2020 budget process? And is there any sort of losses that potentially could pick up as a result?

David McElroy

executive
#8

Yes. The -- so we're in that first quarter. By the way, everyone, whatever the first quarter numbers are, we all accept them, we smile at them and then they don't matter. The future that we're looking at is one that we are trying to parse between the revenue hit and the revenue expectations and then the loss hit, okay? And when I -- certainly at AIG, when I was building and we -- the team was building out the revenue hit, we thought about products. We thought about ratable exposures and then we thought about specific businesses. So when you look at that and you actually build that, clearly, aviation, trade credit, travel insurance, M&A insurance, those are affected businesses. You know on the revenue side, they are going to be affected, damaged, okay? So you -- when we’re thinking about the revenue piece going forward, that's a data point that we've been working with. You also think about ratable exposures, employees, revenues, autos on the road, payroll, number of companies that exist, okay? Number of IPOs, number of companies that disappear. So we're clearly in an environment where a deep recession, let's just call it that, the -- where exposures are dropping. Depending on the business and depending on your portfolio because SME is different from large accounts, you may have minimums that give you a floor on your reaction to the exposure, okay? You have -- or they may disappear. So these are the issues that every insurance company is dealing with, trying to figure out the revenue side as a prospective basis. No question at all. Most companies have to be thinking that there's going to be a revenue hit, a premium hit, okay? The variability of that can be -- it depends on your portfolio, it depends on the businesses you're in. We have a travel business that's going to be hit, okay? We have a large account workers comp book, maybe less so because it might be hit by the client, but not on the excess pricing. There's still exposures out there. There's still severity. So that's how we've been thinking about the revenue side. And then here's the other piece as a mitigant. The renewal retentions will stay stronger. Rates, there will be rates, and there'll be rate on rate. There's no question that if you look at what we're facing today, there will continue to be strong rate through most of the portfolio. And in fact, we may actually start catching workers' comp because of some of the attacks there, which has been the one product that has not had rate over the last year. There may be opportunities because of all the cacophony and some of the issues that are happening there and stress. And then I do believe this, we live in large accounts. There's going to be some fracturing around the placement of their towers. So the important thing that I look at, I think that everybody is worried about is more of the loss side. And the loss side is, we've identified travel, we've identified business -- some elements of business interruption, we've identified trade credit, event cancellation. These are somewhat identified in the first quarter, not only by AIG, but by others and Lloyd's. It's -- the issues there are going to be about properties and workers' comp, mostly in North America, workers' comp in North America. And then there's unknowns and unknowns will be directors, officers' liability, professional liability. If we go down the track of return to work, okay? If return to work has all sorts of tangent general liability exposures, premises liability, negligence, I -- you can manufacture them as from an all-encompassing standpoint. The -- that's the unknown that I think everybody is looking out and trying to quantify, and it's -- to a certain degree, it's a very difficult issue to quantify depending on governmental immunity, behaviors, what's -- with where you are in the world and in America. So that's the -- when we look at -- and I know everybody wants to sort of speculate around the loss side, but when you actually drill through the different businesses, there's knowns, there's second derivatives, and then there's probably third derivatives that we've not actually contemplated. So -- but am I worried about D&O as an example, Brian? I grew up with that, and you know that. But the D&O shows up in different ways. It shows up in fiduciary liability. It shows up in private companies, who can't get through this and they have bankruptcies. It shows up in private equity firms, who have portfolio companies that they're not funding, okay, and have a different potential litigant-based debt holders, employees, things like that. So this has tentacles that are -- that will continue to show up every quarter, and then there will be new news every quarter, okay? So sorry to make it more complicated. But I know D&O always gets the throwaway line, but it needs to be positive.

Brian Meredith

analyst
#9

Got you. So David, a question came from the audience that kind of relates to what you were just talking about. Maybe it would be helpful to kind of explain on the workers' comp situation, right? I mean your kind of limits profile and your typical customers are bigger customers, right? And you do a lot of SIR business, large core, those type of stuff, which I would think that business is going to be in -- probably less exposed with respect to kind of frequency, right? And this whole thing with respect to the concerns is presumption of coverage and what's going on with state legislatures. But I guess, then you've also got some aggregate business, I believe, on the workers' comp? And I guess, is there any way to kind of frame that? Does it still have to be a significant kind of increase before it kind of goes to you? Or is this more of just a servicing thing for you guys?

David McElroy

executive
#10

No. It's a great instinctive question around that business because the -- our business Agrium is a -- it's a -- you probably spawned 10 other companies doing loss sensitive, high deductible business for Fortune 1000 companies where they want to retain risk, the frequency risk and predominantly that’s in workers' comp. So it's one of the businesses we reconstituted. It's an important -- it's sticky. You're holding collateral for large account companies. You're actually deciding their frequency and then you work with them, and then you have a very intimate claims relationship with them. So the second part of your question is whether if they actually have enough frequency that they blow in aggregate, whether that becomes exposure to the insurance company. And we have a very small amount of that, okay? But it's definitely something that might have happened in a softening market where they were pushing on the aggregate. The 80% of our book in workers' comp and AIG is this type of business where there is significant, often $1 million self-insured retentions, deductibles where a lot of the frequency is showing up for them. And that's really, as we're looking at this exposure for presumption, okay, where that falls, it's -- unless -- it's hard to contemplate where that could be an aggregated exposure but every individual has a certain amount of exposure. And if the states do change that, truthfully, and maybe that's a worry, that will follow on and the businesses that we're in will follow on to corporate America, okay? And because they're absorbing the frequency of it, they're absorbing the individuality of it, we normally get the outlier case or the multiple injury case that penetrates the excess. So I know that's a little bit more complicated for that business versus workers' comp. But it is important -- it's important distinction for any investor to look at is to know that workers' comp has been a very attractive product over the last 5 years. It does differentiate between SME, middle market and then large accounts who actually absorb most of the frequency losses themselves, and they're comfortable with that SIR, the self-insured retention. So...

Brian Meredith

analyst
#11

That's really helpful.

David McElroy

executive
#12

Yes.

Brian Meredith

analyst
#13

Yes. That makes a lot of sense. Perhaps pivot to this other question here. Your perspective I think I know where you're going to go with this one, but I'm going to ask it. A lot of companies, a lot of execs are out there talking about a "hard market" for commercial lines insurance right now. And I don't know what your definition of a hard market is, but mines typically is you can't get programs done, there is supply shortages, increase in demand and just -- it's a real challenging situation. Are we there at this point in the market?

David McElroy

executive
#14

Thanks, Brian. The one thing after 38 years is, I think there are 3 hard markets. I'm not sure how I'd even give them definition. Here's the -- here's our industry, and it may help investors pick where they think about allocating, and say, their capital because the industry has gotten more sophisticated. The industry -- you can't throw hard market out there with all of the products that we have, okay? AIG is a large account company. We do have programs in SME business through our Glatfelter programs. We have A&H businesses worldwide. That's a $3 billion asset. We have retail property. We have Lexington property. There are 100 different markets, and everybody has to thematically get to that spot. The reality is, and this is what I think we've seen over the last year is there is clearly loss cost inflation. I won't use the term social because it's easy. But the reality is that plaintiffs are and some of the realities of litigation that was happening in 2016, '17, showing up in '18, '19, was forcing companies like us to react to that, okay? I would make the case that we probably needed to react more because our results were worse than others, but we were reacting more, we might have been the catalyst for that, okay? That still exists. The COVID thing may have an effect, and we -- it's worth putting up that. But this industry needed better rates, particularly in vulnerable spots. And I come back to it. We write a D&O business that we were paying close to $50 million a year on M&A bump-up claims that would go away that were affecting our results, which weren't affecting excess D&O results. Lead umbrella, $25 million lead umbrella sitting over 1 in 2s, okay, where we're getting tagged because there was inflation showing up and affecting their business. There had to be a reaction to that. That's what I put '19 for those sort of behaviors that the underwriters in the industry reacted to that. There's no way to turn that and say the same case in Texas, so the same inflation volatility is going to disappear because of COVID. Yes, we're going to watch that, okay? The -- but we're not going to unprice for the fact that we needed more price for our business, okay, for the risk we were assuming going into 2020, okay? Because there might be an element of diminished exposure which might affect frequency, but does not affect severity. And that's sort of the model that we're -- and sort of the thinking that we're going with in terms of how I view risk, okay? The same Texas auto loss is -- can still be $54 million, I need to price for that. The -- that's -- these are different businesses. What I come back to is the -- we're also potentially absorbing, depending on the latest prognosticator, a $70 billion, $80 billion or $100 billion CAT loss for COVID. Okay, that's going to take capital. That's going to demand capital and subcapital out of this industry that may not be replaced. Capital is important, capital needs to be priced. We're not getting returns on our fixed income portfolio. Everything has to be reconstituted in terms of how we think about pricing our products. So that's how I feel. And I'm also wildly nervous about the unknown. So...

Brian Meredith

analyst
#15

Makes sense. That's good. So next place I want to head to that we're getting some questions from people on as well is perhaps you could talk a little bit, and you've talked somewhat about this, your ceded reinsurance program, right? And obviously, a lot of changes have happened in that program over the last couple of years have reduced volatility. How do you think that responds to these kind of COVID-19 claims? Now maybe you can give us a little bit kind of on the structure of that program, and why we should feel better today about your exposures in part because of that.

David McElroy

executive
#16

Sabra is always going to give me a thumbs up or thumbs down, Brian. The -- I think the 10-K has the program. Let me give you the very innocent view of how I hold -- I'm holding on to it. Peter Zaffino, like this is a home game for him, and he could actually architect this thing scarily. But what I draw a distinction of is probably in years past where we might have thought we could whistle by the graveyard and that 1 in 250 event isn't going to happen. We have underwritten and we have bought and I mean aggressively bought not only for what I think is the event that we expect every year, both on an occurrence and an aggregate basis, and you've seen what we've collected on Japan. You've seen what we've had in the last couple of years. But for the tail event, okay? And the pandemic issue is probably the singular tail event that as we built an occurrence cover in North America, we build an occurrence cover for PCG and also an aggregate cover, and then we've also built across the world because we are in 80 countries, and we are that big. The -- everything that we bought has been with a defensive -- volatility is not rewarded. Volatility is -- there's just no win with volatility. Let's show our investors, let's show everybody that we actually will give up marginal return so we don't give outlier bad performance. So -- and that even extends to the per risk coverage that we have. We have a per risk cover for property, which is the hot issue that has different attachments depending on the business, 25 and 10, that works. We have quota share that we never would have had before at AIG for our casualty business. So think of old AIG might have had literally $200 million net. And today, we've restricted our gross capacity to $100 million. And even then, we have a 75x of 25, and then we quote a share of the first 25. Everything underneath this as we've kept up the business and the volume and our relationships with clients has been to accept the fact that volatility is the enemy, okay, utilize it, manage it. So it is worth resonating because I sometimes think that we -- and meanwhile, we have preferred positions where our clients are okay with the limits that we're putting forth. They understand that we might have syndicated those because they're still very pricing powerful positions. So -- okay?

Brian Meredith

analyst
#17

Got you. Yes, makes complete sense. Like say I want to pivot back both to the pricing. There's -- the other question I want to explore a little bit here is kind of movement of business from standard market to the E&S market. And then maybe you can describe a little bit what's been happening here at Lexington. Is Lexington kind of in a better position today to kind of take advantage of what's going on right now as a result of some of the changes you've made?

David McElroy

executive
#18

Yes. The -- so Lexington is how they got me back in the game. I'm very proud now.

Brian Meredith

analyst
#19

Yes.

David McElroy

executive
#20

The -- it's -- it will be interesting because -- and for everybody's benefit, I am a culture over strategy, so we'll just call that. Lexington was a company that AIG allowed inside its own company competing with other parts of AIG, retail property, excess casualty. A lot of Lexington, instead of being distribution focused with wholesalers who they would -- 70% of their business was with retailers. And what we did a year ago with support was to focus them on wholesale only. And what that did was it showed a commitment to the wholesalers who are their own breed, and they are very passionate breed, and they're also very supportive if you show them respect. And we basically have reconstituted an entire company for E&S under leadership, which has a very different portfolio than it had a year ago. And that portfolio is -- it's transactional. It's better priced. It might be hard to place business, it might be -- it's well-priced business. It also gives you more flexibility than you have in an admitted world where I can't leave a state without filings, and I can go in and out. And it also -- and this was important, it matched up with an E&S model of shorter limits fee. We might -- in property, CIV is smaller, different occupancies, better rate online. Right now, our E&S property portfolio, 80% of it is under $25 million. It actually allows me to look at a different reinsurance structure 1 day than I might have had before because of the work that was done there. In casualty, as we forced a lot of business out of our retail casualty or admitted casualty, it ends up in Lexington casualty. It's sort of a gift. But the -- if I was -- and believe me, we tested with our distribution as to what happened with COVID. There was a bit of a lull in April, and I haven't seen the results yet. But the -- but their business contained -- their business pivoted and started to get very active again in early May. And I haven't done a back test in a month. But the E&S world is going to be a strong world and Lexington is a brand and has capacity to not only control the primary position and the author position, but then leverage that into a more benign placement of the tower. So that's a -- that will be a growth strategy this year still, even with some of the pressures. So...

Brian Meredith

analyst
#21

Great. And then let's shift across the Atlantic Ocean here for a second and talk a little bit about Lloyd's and what's going on over there. I guess the first thing, just a quick thought in your -- Lloyd's came out with a fairly substantial loss estimate for COVID-19 today. It's like $104 billion, right, on the high side, I guess, and kind of what their average and their -- where they are. I guess, can you kind of give me your perspective as you guys sit within Lloyd's with Talbot, right, and kind of what the exposures there kind of look like? Hear a lot of things that it's got a little bit more generous policy form, et cetera, et cetera?

David McElroy

executive
#22

Yes. And I've got to be careful there, Brian, because the Talbot sits in the international arena. A lot of the business at Lloyd's is probably more of my history of understanding. But with event cancellation, the property business with different language into the regionals. Trade credit might be there, it might be in the company market. The -- it's -- we're all -- in a nice way, we're all sort of -- we're all experts until we're not right now. And I do believe if you -- and this is an insidious exposure, and we have to continue to respect the fact -- its effect on people, but from -- if you clinically look at it as an insurance exposure, it's in certain spots right now and we do know it may expand. We do know it's touching multiple products in multiple countries over multiple durations. So I think what John did was the right thing going. And remember, Lloyd's has it on a product basis as well as a reinsurance basis. So he's appropriately, I think, respecting that this has a constellation effect that we can't fully identify right now, but we should all be nervous about. So I can't comment on his comment because I respect him. I do. You see the problem A&H, event cancellation, property business insurance, it can be in workers' comp, it can be in AIG Re, it can hit D&O, E&O, private company D&O, fiduciary liability, employment practices liability, I can -- every product can be affected. So right now I want to say it, it's somewhat speculation. What it does do is allows us to continue to price our product without an attack point of saying exposures are down unilateral. So...

Brian Meredith

analyst
#23

Yes. Makes sense. So how about another thing that I'm not sure if you're involved with it here. But Syndicate 2019 and the new homeowner syndicate, right? Maybe you could give us a little bit of perspective as to why you did that? And does that actually decrease your kind of PMLs of U.S. hurricane and stuff as we kind of look forward here?

David McElroy

executive
#24

Yes. Now the -- so I -- my responsibilities have tangentially included high net worth with -- owning to distribution. But Kathleen is a friend of mine, and we have -- one thing I would say, it's an editorial, but the new AIG is not trying to compete with each other. So we actually have a collaborative relationship, and we're trying to -- we always start thinking about -- when I got to AIG, I always thought 5 companies would compete for the same piece of business, and then Hank would figure out who won. That's not this AIG, and I think it's very important from an aggregation management standpoint and a control standpoint. Kathleen and I talked about this and she -- I have some history there. But think of jet and think of high net worth, in my mind, is utilizing Lloyd's is also utilizing third-party capital who can come in alongside us, okay? And then there's some leverage that they can utilize with that. But it's private, it's basically third-party private capital that you can't bring in a normal conventional sense. So when we looked at this, we had that setup in Lloyd's, that supported Lloyd's, and then we have whole account quota share that we could work with conventional reinsurance, okay? We like the business. We like the team that's underwriting the business. We also know that it's CAT exposed, okay? Rich people live on the coast, rich people have a lot of art, a lot of yachts, a lot of homes. And we just wanted to continue to manage the volatility. We can do that through the vehicle of reinsurance and syndication, okay? Long term, I think it's perfect, all right? It's exactly what you want to do while we continue to be in the market, we aggressively balance the portfolio, maybe less off of each coast, and then we start building a syndicated portfolio of assets that we like. And now we have relationships, we can prove to people that we actually can underwrite, get performance fees, get underwriting fees, get seed commission and also participate in the results. So it's a -- we've seen it before in some derivative fashions. I think using Lloyd's to do it allowed us to bring in third-party capital that would have been complicated to bring in different way. And we also think of them as a long-term participant, not only for this, but also for other lines that we might also look one day as syndicate. So that's...

Brian Meredith

analyst
#25

Makes sense. That's makes a lot of sense.

David McElroy

executive
#26

It can be a gross growth story, Brian. It's about that. So...

Brian Meredith

analyst
#27

Got you.

Sabra Purtill

executive
#28

And I would just add that we did talk about in the quarter that, that will have some impacts on our written and earned premiums for the balance of the year because of the book that you can see.

Brian Meredith

analyst
#29

Right, right. Because more is going to be going there, and that will cause a reduction. So actually, Sabra, you've been pretty quiet this whole time. I'm going to ask you a question here. Could you talk of the -- kind of an overview right now of kind of what liquidity looks like at AIG, from a kind of holding company position? I know you did some recent debt. And just given the understanding of kind of what it like over the next 12 to 18 months? And then what's your flexibility for kind of -- in the event you need capital, life insurance, operation, putting it down there? And how much [ push ] do you have there in the life operation for ratings migration and stuff like that?

Sabra Purtill

executive
#30

Okay. I think I got all that. You broke up a little bit there. But first of all I'll start with...

Brian Meredith

analyst
#31

Sorry.

Sabra Purtill

executive
#32

No, it's all right. It happens, the Internet hiccups. I'll start with the liquidity position. First, AIG began the year with a very strong liquidity position as well as strong risk-based capitalization in our primary companies as well as over in AIG U.K. and ESA, which is our European operation and then also, again, in Japan. So we began the year in a very strong spot. What we did as we got into March when the world became, shall we say, very, very uncertain and actually kind of in the teeth of the greatest uncertainty before the Fed programs were announced. We did decide to borrow $1.3 billion under our revolving credit, taking into consideration our projected holding company needs for the balance of the year, including we had about $1.3 billion in debt maturities for the second half of the year. So coming out of, like I said, the worst of the market sell-off and through earnings, we decided that we would take a harder look at the maturities that we have into 2021 as well as even early 2022. Because as David commented, this is a continuing event, and we simply don't have a clear crystal ball or frankly, even a murky crystal ball about what capital market access would look like later in the year. So we went to market last Wednesday, which seems a month ago at this point. But we had earnings on Monday night, the call on Tuesday, and then on Wednesday, we launched a multipart benchmark size senior note offering in 5-, 10- and 30-year maturities, which went very well. We closed with $4.1 billion of proceeds. So as of today, and I would note that transaction actually closed on Monday, we have more than an $11.5 billion of holding company cash and short-term investments relative to what I would call, say, a $3 million -- or $3 billion annualized holding company need for interest, dividends and holding company expenses. And then obviously, we've got the debt maturities to pay off, we have the revolving credit to pay off. And then we also have that $1.7 billion IRS tax settlement, which we expect to get the notice for some time in the third quarter. So we're very, very strongly capitalized, taking into kind of -- we also expect Fortitude to close midyear, which although some of those proceeds will be pushed down to our U.S. operating companies. Nevertheless, we will have some proceeds from that and also eliminate the risk from that portfolio. And then in addition, we anticipate dividends and tax sharing payments from the subsidiaries during the course of the year. So we feel very, very comfortable with our liquidity, financial flexibility and don't envision any issues at all. And I know a lot of people have been concerned in doing that kind of analysis. With respect to your question about the subsidiary capitalization, this event, while it is certainly a large event from an industry perspective for losses, it's more of an earnings event than a capital event right now. Like we said, we took $272 million for COVID. The mortality we're seeing on the life and retirement plans business where they've historically run pandemic exposure analysis is certainly manageable. So the next leg of the stool is really going to be what you referred to, the ratings migrations, downgrades, defaults. Consistent with what David mentioned, we're in a much better position today than we would have been 4 years ago. Our investment portfolio has been significantly derisked. And while we still have hedge funds, they're a lot lower percentage of the portfolio than they used to be. The life settlement book is gone. And there's just generally been a pretty good portfolio cleanup. And so as Mark talked about on the call, our portfolio -- although, people have the perception that it has higher risk, and that's in part due to some of the previously credit impaired RMBS that we purchased back in 2012. In general, our portfolio looks a lot like the market. So if we look at life and retirement, year-end risk-based capital was 402. And we're similar, slightly better for the end of March. And that's with the VA implementation of different -- the statutory reserving rules. And we've benefited from a very effective hedging program on our market-sensitive guarantees in the life and retirement book. So the way we look at it is, as we see those credit impairments, which they will come, right? On a GAAP basis, we already had a huge swing in our accumulated AOCI, which was based on where the market had moved our available for sale bonds, a lot of which was already been recaptured in the second quarter. But on a statutory basis, which as you know is amortized cost, we will see credit impairments come into the portfolio. I personally think that with those probably more of a third or a fourth quarter event than a second quarter because with all the forbearance programs and the rest. You don't -- somebody who was teetering on the edge before this, okay, that might be something you can credit impair in the second quarter. But if you think about, for instance, a commercial mortgage loan portfolio with forbearance. There's probably going to be some work outs and some losses, but it's just -- it's too early to know for second quarter, I think. So as we think about it relative to capital provision like I said, we've got a fortress holding company liquidity. The first thing that we would do as we go through the course of the year is make decisions about whether or not as we identify single exposures, do we sell that as opposed to hold it? Secondly, there's actions we can take. Basically, if there's a shortfall where we want to be relative to target RBC? Then we just don't have to take dividends out. As I mentioned, we are putting proceeds from Fortitude down into both the GI, the U.S. P&C pool as well as life and retirement. So that's another level of capital support for those entities. And thus, when we look at it in total, it -- this is manageable. And with, like I said, the holding company liquidity that we just started the year with plus the debt financing. And actually, I think the GI, the U.S. pool has a strongest RBC ratio it's had since like 2014. We're in a pretty good position. But yes, it's going to take a little bit more time for us to see. But part of the reason why we added 20 pages of disclosure to the financial supplement this quarter, which was all around investments, was to provide people with a legal entity view of our portfolios because I know it's hard because we're a global multiline company and a lot of people are writing research reports that compared our portfolio to a U.S. P&C-only peer group or a U.S. life group, and we felt it was important for people to understand that when you dig into it, our -- there's some differences in our portfolio because of tax. So we don't have as much muni bonds because we have the NOLs, and we also have a lower allocation to equities with a lot of our P&C peers. But basically, we have a portfolio that looks a lot like the market, and we will have, like I said, some credit losses, but we'll manage really. It's -- I feel very comfortable with the position we're in from both the holding company liquidity, leverage capitalization perspective.

Brian Meredith

analyst
#33

Great. Well, I think just a bit over what we had allocated for this. So I want to thank -- Sabra, David, I want to thank both of you all for your time today, really educational, very interesting conversations. And thanks, everybody, for joining us on this UBS Virtual Insurance Conference, it was a great experience actually. I'm glad it went out without any glitches. And just everybody stays safe and healthy out there. And thanks again for all your time.

Sabra Purtill

executive
#34

Yes.

David McElroy

executive
#35

And thank you.

Sabra Purtill

executive
#36

Thank you, Brian. And...

Brian Meredith

analyst
#37

Really cool.

Sabra Purtill

executive
#38

As well, I hope everybody stays safe and healthy.

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