American Tower Corporation (AMT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 29, 2020

New York Stock Exchange US Real Estate Specialized REITs conference_presentation 25 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#1

Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to our next fireside chat. And for those of you newly dialed in, welcome to annual RBC Global Tower and Mobile Infrastructure Investor Summit. I'm pleased to host a fireside chat with American Tower and with us today is Olivier Puech, Executive Vice President and President of Latin America and EMEA. Welcome. You've been to our event at numerous times in the past, this time it's virtual. We appreciate your participation.

Olivier Puech

executive
#2

Yes, good morning, Jonathan and good to see you even virtual.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#3

So I'd like to start -- I mean, the reason for this is COVID, the reason for the format. And as somebody with responsibility for so many geographies, I love to just get a perspective on how, at an executive level, things are different for you and your team as you manage these different regions and countries? And then on the operational side, empathetically how COVID has had an impact?

Olivier Puech

executive
#4

Sure. Thanks, Jonathan. And again, welcome, everyone, and good morning. Good to see you. Well, as you say, a big, big change, of course, due to the new environment wherein we're in 20 markets globally. 18 of those markets are in Africa, Europe and Latin America. So just quite an adjustment for everyone, for me and for the team, of course, the customers to have to deal with this virtual environment. Surprisingly, I would say, maybe because our sector somehow has not been that affected, and the activity level has been very high, both on the M&A standpoint and the operational standpoint, we haven't seen any major disruption. Technology has helped. IT, in particular, for the way to communicate, whether it's video call, calls or other type of means to communicate, it's been fairly easy to continue operating well in the markets where we are. And then on the COVID front, I would say, of course, we had a couple of employees affected, no fatality, fortunately, across the company, not only all of international. So far, it has affected less than 1% of our population. So kind of online is what we see globally everywhere. Some markets, more affected than others, South Africa, Brazil, Mexico, India, of course, some [ countries ] like France and Germany, where we have no cases at all in our offices. So, so far, so good.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#5

Thank you for that. So maybe just to level set, if you could remind us high level how you evaluate international investment opportunities as well as kind of your hurdle rates by geographies?

Olivier Puech

executive
#6

Sure. So we have a kind of 3 gating items we look at in every time we look at new opportunities in new markets. First of all, kind of the macro environment of the country where we're considering an investment. So the rule of law, property right, land rights, regulatory environment, size and age of the population is a matter as well when you look at kind of future growth. The second piece is more related to the telecommunication [Technical Difficulty], is it a competitive landscape in terms of number of MNOs and market share for all of those MNOs. How many tower cos are in the market. From a technology standpoint, what's kind of the current state in each of the market? Is it 3G, 4G? Are we moving faster towards 5G? And then the third piece, of course, is the opportunity itself. So the portfolio, the assets we're looking at in terms of potential for growth, quality of the assets, potential return on investment. So we look at those 3 factors, every one parameters. And then we take this assumption into 10-year DCF model, where we apply a rate of return, which is adjusted to the local cost of capital, depending on the risk level of the country. So Europe would be kind of mid-single digit, very similar to what we have in the U.S., LatAm would be low double-digit in average. Some markets are below 10%, some markets are above that. Then Africa, it's more closer to high-teens, if you want, some markets are even above 20%.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#7

Great. And I guess as you evaluate the international portfolio, how do you think about maintaining a target mix of developed versus developing markets for region -- one region versus another?

Olivier Puech

executive
#8

We don't have really kind of this pre-established parameter. We need to do more develop versus more developing. Again, it's back to the growth rates and kind of potential for return on investment there. So if you look last year, for instance, 2 of the biggest acquisition we did was Eaton in Africa and the Entel portfolio in Chile and Peru. In both cases, they are in developing markets, not developed markets. Because we saw through the acquisition of all those assets or the entry into some of the markets in Africa, the best opportunities for us to get our return on investment. So we are not forcing, if you want a specific percentage or balance between developed and developing market.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#9

So I want to let the audience know, as with prior panels and firesides, if you have any questions, you can type the questions into the portal and time permitting, I will have an opportunity to read them and have Olivier respond. Maybe turning to growth opportunities by region, how do you see that on a relative basis?

Olivier Puech

executive
#10

Yes. So back to your kind of COVID question. We've seen a lot of activities this year overall. It's been very busy, including on the M&A front, by the way. So again, because of the nature, for the industry we're in, I think there's been a lot of needs actually from the consumer markets, the governments, the operators for more traffic, more bandwidths. So we've seen a lot of activities. Level of maturity is different per region, obviously. So if you look at Latin America, it's a market which is mainly around 4G, starting to getting prepared to transition to 5G. Africa, it's underserved and underdeveloped still. We have 55 markets, 1.3 billion people. There's still a lot to do in terms of new build, in particular. It's mainly a 3G market, starting to move in some of the countries toward 4G. And then Europe, it's really preparing for 5G, more densification, more innovation in some of the markets where we operate. But in all cases, we've seen significant opportunities for additional growth.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#11

What do you view as kind of a long-term growth rate that would be achievable on a blended basis?

Olivier Puech

executive
#12

Well, in general, we set in the company a target of trying to have internationally, including India, to be around 200 basis points above the U.S. in terms of organic growth rate. In some markets, we're above that. In Africa, we'll be close to 10% in terms of TBG and organic growth this year. We're around 7% in Latin America as a blend. We're a little bit below in Europe, which is more similar to the U.S. market with low inflation rates, in particular. But that's the target that we have. So to be between, I would say, 5% and 10% in general in the markets where we operate internationally.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#13

And as we think about kind of the -- your bonus, let's say, as an executive across all these different regions, what are the sorts of KPIs that you're measured against that are kind of unique to your international responsibilities versus other ATC employees?

Olivier Puech

executive
#14

Well, in general, the executive team, we are incentivated mainly on return on investment and the growth rates are in the market where we operate. So it's really about -- that's why you have the discipline before making an investment on the profile of the portfolio we're looking at on the growth potential, not only about scale, market share, entering new market. Developed versus developing is really about the profitability of this portfolio over time. And that's -- those are the main metrics in which we are incentivating, myself, the CEO and the rest of the executive team.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#15

Maybe drilling down into a part of LatAm. You've been in Chile and Peru since at least 2012. Last year, you agreed to acquire 3,200 sites in Chile and Peru from Entel. You roughly doubled your tower count in both countries. Are there changes going on in those markets that you could highlight that would make those more attractive investments today?

Olivier Puech

executive
#16

No. Look, I think we know where are those markets. We've been there for, as you say, around 10 years. So we've operated in both Chile and Peru for quite a long time. Scale was important for us. As you pointed out, with this acquisition, it's a significant leap forward in terms of the size of the portfolio. I think the profile of the anchor was also critical for us. Entel is an incumbent operator, in particular, in Chile, and a fast mover, disruptor in Peru. So the profile of this portfolio, for different reason in Chile and Peru, was very attractive to us, and it was natural for us to take a bet on those portfolio.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#17

So maybe pivoting a little bit to fiber. You own fiber in a handful of international markets, primarily in LatAm, but also elsewhere. You've got the partnership with Telefônica in Brazil for fiber deployments, which they've indicated is for fiber to the home. Can you maybe talk a little bit about your fiber investment strategy and specifically the goals of your -- that you hope to achieve with your Telefônica partnership?

Olivier Puech

executive
#18

Sure. So this is part of a broader kind of innovation agenda that we have in the company. And I think we pointed out in earnings call and some of previous presentation, we are a tower co company, but there are potential opportunities to look at in the telecom infrastructure world beyond towers. So data center, fiber, IoT, densifications, and all things that we have to look at because it's just the future of our industry. So on fiber, and just to maybe to focus more on Latin America in particular, because this is a peculiar environment, we see 2 things. The first reason for our investment is, I would say, defensive. What we see is an evolution of the network into 4G, 5G, more densification, potentially small cells and so on. And the need for the MNO to fiberize those networks and to get them ready for the next-generation of networks. We have a lot of towers in Latin America, and a lot of those towers didn't have fiber. We have 30,000 towers between Brazil and Mexico alone, for instance. So fiber to the tower or fiber backhaul is a need that we see now for some of the operators in some of those markets, and having fiber ourselves to deploy this fiber to the tower was natural. That's the first, I would say, reason why we did that. The second is more opportunistic. What we see is an evolution of the ecosystem of the MNOs in Latin America with fewer bigger operators. We've seen consolidation in market like Brazil, Mexico and other markets, and COVID will probably exacerbate this trend. And those operators realize that to compete and to be relevant with the consumers moving forward, they have to move from being only a wireless player into a more converged operator, providing triple play and quadruple play services. That means that from the investments that used to be on the wireless network, they looked at fixed networks and, in particular, bringing broadband Internet to the consumers in their respective market. LatAm is way behind Europe and the U.S. in this area. So there is a need from the MNOs to do FTTH deployment. And the question, which, by the way, is not answered yet, but that we believe is worth having a look at is, is there a way for potential neutral host type of providers like ATC, play a role like in the tower co to provide the fiber capacity to multiple MNOs in some of those markets for them to compete for the consumers and for the services to the home. So that's where the partnership with Vivo in Brazil lies, in particular, is the need for Vivo in these cases, in the state of Minas Gerais where we acquired fiber assets to accelerate their competitiveness in fiber to the home to the consumers and to compete with the ISPs and the other operators for those consumer services. Will it grow into kind of a bigger network, whether it's in Brazil, Mexico, in other markets in Latin America? Due result, I think we need to prove the model. We, as an industry, not only ATC. But clearly, there is a shift and the need from the MNOs towards more fiber to the home type of services using GPON network in general to compete with better services.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#19

Turning -- I mean Africa is just an example of this, but the question is more general. But as part of the Eaton acquisition, you acquired small portfolios in a couple of new countries, Burkina Faso, Niger, what's your thought process on expanding or exiting the market where you have a relatively limited presence?

Olivier Puech

executive
#20

Yes. So the Eaton acquisition is, of course, it's more strategic. It was not about Burkina and Niger per se. They were present in 5 markets in which 3 of the markets were overlapping market with ATC. So Kenya, Uganda and Ghana were a critical market for us. It's a population roughly the size of Mexico, between the 3, around 120 million, 130 million people. We had an established presence there. And through this acquisition, we can finally gain leadership positions and scale in those 3 markets. Now it came with 2 additional markets, Burkina and Niger. It was interesting for us because, first of all, they are the only French-speaking market that we have in Africa, and there is significant part of Africa which is a French-speaking market. And also new exposure to new MNOs like Orange, for instance, with whom we have relationship in Europe, but we didn't have any relationship in the existing market where we were in Africa. So again, it was not strategic. It was not done in purpose to enter Burkina Faso and Niger, but it brought additional benefits by having this bundled deal with it and when we did it.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#21

So I'm going to hit a couple of audience questions that have come in. First one, LatAm volume growth has stepped down from the 6% to 7% range a few years ago to 4% in Q2. What's going on? And will growth reaccelerate?

Olivier Puech

executive
#22

Yes. I think the fundamentals, Latin America, are the same. Of course, the current situation has put pressure on some of the MNO's profitability. We've seen some consolidation. America Movil buying Nextel in Brazil, for instance, the agreement between Telefônica and AT&T in Mexico. It's going to be difficult potentially not only in LatAm, but elsewhere for the very small niche MNOs players, I think, to compete very well. So it has depressed some of the growth rates that we've seen in some of the market. But again, first of all, we've seen more activity on the fiber side in some of these market, like in Brazil, for instance, because of the need for the consumers at home to get more bandwidth. And then on the tower side, there will be, in particular, with new spectrum coming, new competition in some markets, Colombia, for instance, with a new operator that just entered. We're confident that the growth rate will come back to levels that were before.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#23

Another question is, can you speak to lower profitability levels in your various international markets versus the U.S. Is there potential for margin improvement in some geographies or other reasons for margin differences primarily structural and not leaving much room for improvement?

Olivier Puech

executive
#24

Well, it's partly structure, whether it's India, Africa, LatAm, you have a cost of living and the cost of doing things, not only in the telecom field, which are lower than Europe or the U.S. So that's one piece. I mean, scale matters. So in markets where we -- like Brazil, where we have 20,000 towers, there is more stickiness in the relationship with the MNO. And more capability to upsell somehow our portfolio capabilities to the different customers, not only MNOs, by the way. So that's one element of answer, that we will see potential growth rates and profitability level stable or improving thanks to, again, the size that we have. All the different services that we can provide. If you look at Africa, for instance, we not only provide tower services but also power services and this is a critical piece of our differentiation to the MNOs locally. This is a need that most of the MNOs have in almost all markets because of the poor grid that we have there. This is a way to improve margin. This is a way to improve profitability. This is a way to get a longer-term, more strategic relationship with the MNOs in the markets.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#25

I want to talk about maybe at a very broad level, for portfolio growth, are there particular regions where there's more of a target-rich opportunity around acquiring MNO assets versus other portfolios. How would you kind of characterize that?

Olivier Puech

executive
#26

Well, historically, we've done both in all regions, including the U.S. Their region was of much fewer MNOs portfolio available just because of the quantity of transaction history, LatAm is probably a good example, aside from the AMX portfolios. Europe, there might be more opportunities. They're complex because of also the kind of captive tower co announcements that some of the MNOs have done in Europe, but probably more opportunities. And Africa. In Africa, because there's still a lot of markets, a lot of population and big MNOs presence where we have not entered. So there's certainly an opportunity to do more there.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#27

So focusing on Europe, which was kind of my next question, you've got, specifically the Vodafone tower portfolio and Deutsche Telecom and some those state-made. How would that affect the dynamics of the tower business in Europe, if both of those were to seek independent financing?

Olivier Puech

executive
#28

Well, it certainly complexifies the thinking. We are a global company with presence in 20 markets. So there is this permanent internal competition for capital allocation, and Europe is part of that. So when you look at prioritizing, of course, allocation of capital, you look at growth rates, return on invested capital, and Europe has been and is a tough spot. When you look at those 2 metrics, low inflation, almost deflation in some markets, depressed organic growth rates in mass of the market, very expensive assets based on the cost of capital in Europe, and a lot of sharing between the MNOs, leading them now to this kind of trend of creating their own captive. I just don't know there is space in Europe for all the announcement and the captive that have been mentioned. You have Telxius with Telefônica, Vantage with Vodafone, Orange has made their announcement, DFMG with Deutsche Telekom, and there may be more. And so we are disciplined, cautious but committed, I would say, to Europe, in a way that makes sense to us and which is in line with our way of looking at investment. But again, if you look at what we have announced recently in Europe, another deal with Orange in France for up to 2,000 towers. So again, this is an existing market where we are already. This is Orange, which is by far the biggest MNO in the market, and that provides scale by getting those additional 2,000 sites, which, by the way, on the size that we closed from these 2,000 already in the first half of the year, we've seen significant organic activity. So a lot of interest for those sites. And then Poland, which is the other one that we just recently announced as well, it's a very small acquisition, more from a developer, if you want, or kind of a tower co player, not an MNO. But for us, again, strategically, that might be interesting because Poland is a sizable market, 40 million people, very competitive market in terms of the MNO landscape for operators. There are no tower co yet. So it makes sense for us to enter Poland as well, and we'll look at it the same way. So growing in France and Germany because they are the 2 market where we started, and we see potential for us to gain more scale. And then look at strategically the new opportunities potentially with key operator. Orange is one in France and now if there are more opportunities with key tier 1 MNO in Europe, we'll look at it.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#29

Got it. I'm going to maybe drill down a little bit back onto that LatAm question and give you an opportunity at a high level to maybe talk about the 2 largest exposures you have, which are Brazil and Mexico. If there are a number of country-specific developments going on around each country, so which are the kind of the milestones to look at? You made the comment that you could return to growth -- historical growth levels. What is -- what needs to happen in Brazil for that to happen? What needs to happen in Mexico to kind of support that goal?

Olivier Puech

executive
#30

So first of all, I mean, LatAm is a blended -- organic growth is around -- is going to be around 7% this year. So I wouldn't call that kind of a bad situation where we are. Brazil and Mexico, relatively similar for us in the sense that we started very early on at internal expansion through those 2 markets, 99 and 2,000, 99, Mexico, 2,000, Brazil. True partnership with local operator in both markets. We reached scale somehow in both markets. We have 9,000 plus towers in Mexico and some fiber, and we have 20,000 towers in Brazil and some fiber as well. So of course, enhanced relationship with the key MNOs. We see some change, of course, in the landscape with the acquisition from Nextel by America Movil, what's going on with oil and the potential fragmentation of the oil assets in the market and the same in Mexico with AT&T and Telefônica. But all in all, what we believe is that the fundamentals would be there with bigger, stronger operator, probably 3 big guys in Brazil: Vivo, Claro and TIM. And in Mexico, significant activity with AT&T and Altán, in particular. It was somehow nice to see the kind of the confirmed commitment or renewed commitment from AT&T in Mexico, there have been some rumors. And we see a very strong commitment from AT&T to the market. So that's all positive for us.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#31

And then last question, maybe at a broad level on M&A involving smaller portfolios, independent portfolios. Anything that you would care to comment on in terms of buyer seller expectations and how that has evolved? Where do things kind of stand now? Are there any general comments that apply? Or is it really very deal-specific or region-specific?

Olivier Puech

executive
#32

No, I think it's deal-specific. Complexity in some market because of the evolving kind of macroeconomic situations that put some pressure potentially on the risk-adjusted cost of capital. That might be misaligned with expectation of the sellers, in some cases. But again, if it makes sense for us, in -- particularly in the market where we already operate to consolidate and grow scale, we'll look at it.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#33

Absolutely. Just checking on the questions. I think we've kind of hit on all the topics that I had and that the audience had. So I think we will let you go. Appreciate very much you participating with us on this fireside chat.

Olivier Puech

executive
#34

Thank you, Jonathan. Good to see you again. Hope to see you in person, Chicago next year.

Jonathan Atkin

analyst
#35

Likewise.

Olivier Puech

executive
#36

Bye. Bye-bye.

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