Amplitude Energy Limited (AEL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 19, 2021

Australian Securities Exchange AU Energy Oil, Gas and Consumable Fuels special 32 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Cooper Energy Limited Orbost Gas Processing Plant Phase 2b Work Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Derek Piper, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Derek Piper

executive
#2

Thank you, Darcy, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining the webcast this morning. Yesterday afternoon, we released a presentation which outlined the upcoming work activities to be undertaken at the Orbost Gas Processing Plant. This morning, Mike Jacobsen and Dean Johnson will talk through the presentation, and we'll take questions at the end. Mike is our General Manager, Projects and Operations; and Dean is our Operations Manager, and both have been very involved in the planning of the Phase 2b works. David Maxwell, our Managing Director, is also here and will make some introductory remarks. We're conscious that our results are out on Monday, so we do ask when it comes time to -- for Q&A that you just keep questions focused on this morning's presentation, please. On that note, I'll hand over to David for some opening comments.

David Maxwell

executive
#3

Thanks very much, Derek, and let me add my welcome to everybody that is listening to the call live and those that will listen to it when it is posted later on. It's been a busy week for the oil and gas industry. We prepared today's presentation to convey the reasons why we have a high level of confidence in successful outcomes from what we refer to as the Orbost Phase 2b works. We thought that a separate session focused just on the workforce would be valuable rather than combining this with the broader results presentation, which Derek referred to, and will be on Monday. And we trust that you, with today's messages, get the focus that they deserve and you get to understand the reasons why this confidence from a Cooper Energy point of view. The Phase 2b works harness our learnings from the past 6 months and provide a line of sight to improve stability, less frequent cleaning cycles and higher processing rates in the absence of finding the root cause of foaming and fouling at Orbost. Mike and Dean are here to talk you through the presentation and then answer questions. Both, as Derek mentioned, have been heavily involved in the planning phase of Phase 2b and the reviewing of the testing that's being undertaken. We'll take questions at the end, and I'll now hand over to Mike.

Michael Jacobsen

executive
#4

Thank you, David. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining the call today. As David said, I'll be running through the pack that was released last night, detailing the works -- the Phase 2 works that will be undertaken at Orbost. I will follow the slides. And I've just moved on to the key messages slide, Slide #2 on the pack. Just at the outset, I'd like to recognize that, certainly, Cooper Energy management team would like to recognize that this has been a frustrating period for investors. The aim of this presentation is to explain what has been happening over the last 9 months, what we have learned and what we are planning to do to address Orbost's underperformance. The key messages that I would like to leave you with today are that our understanding of the Orbost Gas Plant has gradually improved through 2021, and we have learned much. The recent performance and the average gas processing rate has improved through 2021. So for example, the first -- sorry, the first half of this financial -- of the '21 financial year averaged 23 terajoules a day. Since the first of July 2021, we have averaged 40 terajoules a day. The recent improvements are mostly due to the regular cleaning cycles that are now being employed by APA, the operator of the Orbost Gas Plant. The absorbers have regularly demonstrated that they can operate at 34 terajoules a day each when clean. The key to improving performance is to reduce the foaming and the solids accumulation also known as fouling. The Phase 2b works primarily target a reduction in the fouling. Numerous trials have been conducted at Orbost to define the most suitable technology application to remove the sulfur. And independently, the root cause analysis continues. Next slide. Thank you. The Phase 2b works are the works following the Phase 2a works, which were completed at the end of calendar year '20. They were to reconfigure both of the absorbers such that we could run them in series and parallel mode. The Phase 2b works can be broken up or grouped into 2 scope packages. Firstly, the solids removal, which is, as the name suggests, to remove the solids from the process to prevent fouling within the absorbers. The secondary scope is to install spray nozzles within the absorbers to suppress fouling. The cost is estimated up to $20 million, and that is to be shared equally between Cooper Energy and APA, with the Cooper Energy share funded from the escrow account with minimal impact on our cash reserves. Owing to the complexity of the solids removal technology, the lead time is much longer than from the spray nozzles. The spray nozzles will be installed at the end of August, early September, with the first to be installed in that first week of September. And then the solids removal technology will be -- will then be installed in Q3 of FY '22. The main objective is to improve plant stability and performance and to extend absorber cleaner -- clean cycles. Next slide. Thank you. Just to recap on how the Orbost Plant is designed to extract H2S from the main plant. The Sole gas contains H2S, which needs to be removed. The technology uses naturally occurring bacteria to convert H2S into solid sulfur. The bacteria lives in the process solution, which circulates in a closed loop between the absorbers and the bioreactors shown diagrammatically in blue, so the absorbers in blue, and the bioreactors in gray. The absorbers operate at high pressure to absorb the H2S from the raw gas in the solution. The solution then passes into the bioreactors where the bacteria converts the absorbed sulfur into solid sulfur. A small proportion of the solution, sometimes called slip stream, is taken off the loop to remove the solid sulfur from the solution. The solution then returns into the absorbers where the process is repeated. The issues that we've experienced at Orbost, there is -- which has to do with the foaming and the fouling, is the sulfur particles at Orbost are larger than other plants around the world, including Australian plants. These larger sulfur particles settle in the absorbers, which upset the solution flow, upset the gas flow and limit the ability to absorb H2S. And that has required the need to regularly clean out the solid sulfur that lands within the absorbers. Next slide, please. One of the clean -- one of the key learnings from the last 6 to 9 months is that the absorbers, when clean, can process Sole gas very well. Keeping the absorbers clean of sulfur is the primary objective of Phase 2b, and that is demonstrated on the production profile seen on Slide 5. Next slide, please. Talk about the solids removal package, which is the lion's share of the Phase 2b works. The package consists of multiple individual filter cartridges that cycle between filter modes and backwash modes, seen diagrammatically there in yellow. The important point to make here is that all of the solution will now be passed through the filters, whereas previously, a slip stream was taken off to remove the solid sulfur. The solids removal package is designed to remove solid sulfur above the size of 1 micron as being 1,000th of a millimeter. And that has been based on the testing that APA have employed over the last 6 months. All of the solution will now be filtered, as I said, before it reenters the absorbers. The reverse flow backwashes the cartridges after each cycle to remove the sulfur from the system. The technology selection has been based on extensive testing at Orbost using the actual technology that will be used. Over 12,000 liters of the Orbost solution filtered through a single cartridge on test -- has been tested with no performance loss witnessed. The testing also indicates that the solids removal package can significantly extend the time between the absorber cleans and also potentially eliminate the cleans entirely. Next slide. Thank you. This slide demonstrates a number of the tests that have been performed at Orbost recently. The photos on the left-hand side show a fouling simulation test. On the left-hand side of those 2 photos shows the unfiltered solution passing through an absorber simulator. As can be seen at the top of the slide -- or of the photo, rather, the sulfur lands and deposits within the contractor rings within the absorber. This is not good. This is what leads to fouling. It will lead -- it also leads to the breakthrough of H2S and require the absorbers to be cleaned. The slides on the right of those 2 of that pair shows the same simulation but now with filtered solution. And as can be seen, solid sulfur is no longer landing out within the contractor rings. The second photo on the right, so the photo on the far right, shows a simulation of what we believe is happening within the absorber columns. The system foam builds up, comes to the top of the absorbers, and with it, it brings solid sulfur. The red box highlights the solid sulfur that is lifted up within the foam. Next slide, please. The spray nozzles, which is the secondary part of the Phase 2b works, will be installed earlier. The process -- so currently, the solution is gravity-fed through the absorber columns -- to the right. The solution is fed to the top of the absorbers, and it uses gravity to fall through the absorber, contracting the gas as it rises to absorb the H2S. The nozzle that will be installed, the first one to be installed at the end of August. We'll use -- we will spray the solution under pressure. And that process -- so this spraying action is expected to suppress the foam within the absorbers, and it may also have a positive impact on fouling. Sulfur particles have been found within the foam at Orbost, and there is an interrelation between foaming and fouling. Spray nozzles in the first absorber will be installed in late August, with the second to be installed later after the results of the first nozzle are known, most likely at the end of September when the first and the second spray nozzle will be installed. Next slide, thank you, to Slide 9. Key messages that I would like to leave you with today is that the absorbers have proven regularly that they can operate at 34 terajoules a day each when clean. The Phase 2b works is primarily targeted at reducing the fouling, hence, keeping the absorbers clean. Trials have been conducted at Orbost, which have most -- which are best defined the suitable technology that we rolled out to remove the sulfur. Based on these points, we are optimistic that Phase 2b will improve the performance at Orbost and at the very least, extend cleaning cycles. On that note, I would like to open the lines for Q&A.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Nik Burns from Jarden Australia.

Nik Burns

analyst
#6

Just wondering how long each work scope here will take in terms of any planned downtime. Should we expect production to be interrupted for a few days or a few weeks for this?

Michael Jacobsen

executive
#7

Yes, Nik, it's Michael, I can take that call -- take that question. The first part, the spray nozzles will be undertaken during the regular cleaning cycles, so we won't see production going off during those works. For the solids removal part of the scope, the detailed planning is still ongoing, but we would expect that to be in the range of 3 to 4 weeks.

Nik Burns

analyst
#8

Got it. And on the solids removal technology, has this been done anywhere else in the world to give you and APA confidence of a successful outcome here?

Michael Jacobsen

executive
#9

Certainly, the technology has been used in other applications. It's used widely in water treatment. It's been used around the world and also in Australia widely in that application. It hasn't been used with sulfur that is produced in this type of plant in this [ biotech ] plant. So that's why we've gone to such lengths to test the compatibility to be able to filter the solids that we are -- that are being produced at Orbost and then the ability to backwash it. So yes, the technology is used widely. First time it's been used with this type of sulfur removal plant.

Nik Burns

analyst
#10

Okay. That's clear. And just one final one. Are the components you're installing here, are they off-the-shelf parts? Or are they being fabricated for you? I'm just wondering, have the parts -- have you ordered the equipment? And any concerns around ordering time given COVID restrictions around the world at the moment?

Michael Jacobsen

executive
#11

Yes. Look, Nik, this is -- when they're not -- this is not an off-the-shelf item, but they're standard designs. So the -- so yes, they have been ordered. The large -- or the contract for the large package has been left, and there's a contract out for that now. So all of the components that go into the solids removal are all standard designs, the valves, the cartridges, they're all standard designs, but they need to be ordered. So it's not a case of taking equipment off the shelf and bringing it together. It does need to be [ brought in ]. But the order has been placed, and that ball is rolling.

Operator

operator
#12

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from Jon Bishop from Euroz.

Jon Bishop

analyst
#13

Just a couple of questions. What's Shell's involvement to this point? And have they sort of the QC-ed the proposed works at all?

Michael Jacobsen

executive
#14

Yes. So Shell has the -- sorry, APA has the license with Shell. The joint venture company of Shell [ Pikel ] who is really the custodian of the technology, has been actively involved with APA through the selection of the technology and the modifications to Phase 2b. So the expertise for the technology is generally with [ Pikel ], the Shell joint venture company. So in answer to your question, yes, the owner of the technology has been involved with these Phase 2b works.

Jon Bishop

analyst
#15

And how are they sort of feeling? I mean, obviously, the root cause analysis is ongoing. How are they sort of feeling about performance of the plant? And this obviously is quite unusual. There's anything like this elsewhere. I mean the process of elimination, are you getting any closer from their perspective?

Michael Jacobsen

executive
#16

They haven't seen this before, Jon, in other plants. Other plants have experienced foaming and fouling. And they have been -- we're not really so not fouling but certainly foaming. So -- and they have dealt with them, and they've been able to rectify the situation. They haven't seen the extent of the issues that Orbost have seen. They have -- as you know, they've been involved with the root cause analysis since the get-go. They haven't been able to point to the actual root cause. So yes, I think they're probably feeling -- I wish they knew -- they wish that they knew the answers. But the root cause analysis that APA and Cooper Energy jointly kicked off recently or, I guess, a part of the root cause analysis is we've hired a surfactant chemist specialist. That person is based in Australia. And they are going through all of the test results, all of the analysis and working through what they believe to be the issue. Foaming is sort of where they're starting their thinking. So that work is ongoing now, and we expect through the rest of this year to see the results of that work, of that specialist's work. And we're optimistic that, that work will point to us or get us closer to the root cause of the foaming as well as the fouling.

Jon Bishop

analyst
#17

Okay. And then just on the Phase 2b works. There's been some discussion on and off about potentially considering an amine unit. Where is that in the joint venture reckoning at the moment?

Michael Jacobsen

executive
#18

Yes. There's been a number of different technologies or a number of modifications that we have looked at. Amine is one of them. I mean that is a total redesign of the Orbost Gas Plant and -- which comes at a cost. It comes at -- so there's a number of options that have been looked at. Amine is one of them. The other option that has been looked at is a third absorber. And if the cleaning cycle, at the very least, can be extended, then a third absorber from the work that we've done is probably the most economic of all the options that we looked at to date.

Jon Bishop

analyst
#19

Okay. And look, just 1 final question, if I might. And this is probably the $68,000 question. Completing this work this year, what is the sort of gut feel as to where this sits? Obviously, each unit, as you've stated, can do 35 terajoules a day once clean. Where do you expect this sort of work to take you to? Is this sustainably above 50? Or is it just too early to say at the moment?

Michael Jacobsen

executive
#20

I think it is, Jon. I think it is too early to say. What we expect certainly is to extend the cleaning cycles. And we do know, as you said, that the absorbers, when they're clean, they can produce at higher rates. But there is -- so there is the potential, certainly. And we wouldn't be doing this if we didn't think there was the potential that we'll be able to improve the rates materially. How much at this point it is, we just can't say this at this point.

Operator

operator
#21

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from Nik Burns from Jarden Australia.

Nik Burns

analyst
#22

So just a quick follow-on. Just on Slide 5, your production, just trying to understand the plant performance over the last few months. You've sort of run it pretty consistently at a max 45 terajoules a day, but you've talked about the fact that each can do a high -- can do 34. Why -- has there been any reason why you haven't been operating both at a rate higher than 45? I think it's only a few weeks in April and maybe May, we might have tipped it up to 48. But what's the operational reason why you've been hitting that or keeping at that very high 45 level?

Michael Jacobsen

executive
#23

Yes. Thanks, Nik. The fouling, as I have been seeing at Orbost, is rate- and time-dependent. So the harder that the absorbers -- when I say harder, the higher the gas rates that they are run at, the faster they fail. So it is a question of time and rate. And the sweet spot that has been found in the plant's current configuration -- we wish it was higher. But in the plant's current configuration with the sulfur that is in the solution, the optimum rate has been determined around at 45 when they've got both of them producing. Yes, it is -- that could run at higher than that, but they would have to clean sooner and clean more often. So it's been, I guess, an exercise of finding the sweet spot of when to -- or what rate to use to maximize the rate effectively. So that 40 terajoules a day average is what we see to be the optimum based on the current configuration of the cleaning cycles that APA had employed.

Nik Burns

analyst
#24

Got it. Maybe just 1 more. Just thinking about managing, I guess, market and investor expectations through this works. Is it fair to say you've got greater expectations for the solid removal than you do have for the spray nozzle installation that's coming up shortly?

Michael Jacobsen

executive
#25

Yes, that's right, Nik. The fouling is what is causing the regular cleaning cycles. The foaming has been managed to an extent with the use of additives and chemicals that are used to control the foam. So you're right, the spray nozzles themselves, we hope will have a positive impact, certainly on the foaming, and we're optimistic as well that it will be able to help to an extent with the fouling, which may have an impact on extending the cleaning cycles. But certainly, removing the sulfur, keeping those absorbers clean, that's the primary objective and focus of the Phase 2b works. But yes, we're anxious -- well, not anxious, but we're sort of very keen waiting on the results of the spray nozzles as well. So yes.

Operator

operator
#26

Your next question comes from Scott Ashton from SHA Energy Consulting.

Scott Ashton

analyst
#27

A great preso. Just a couple of quick follow-up questions on the back of Nik and your production chart on Slide 5. I suppose what I'm just trying to understand is the nameplate was like 68. The new normal is the sort of the 40 to 45 range. You're now saying you're doing 34. How do we think about this sort of from a modeling perspective on reserves? A, could we just see a situation where you're producing at the lower rates, and therefore, maybe field life gets extended because you're producing at the lower rate because you can never ever do that 68? Just wanted to sort of understand how you're sort of seeing that pan out.

David Maxwell

executive
#28

Maybe I can take that one. Thanks, Scott. And Mike or then Dean can certainly add in. The rate that -- the 45 is what we're able to run at the moment with the current configuration at the current plant and then cleaning up every -- each absorber every couple of weeks. They're actually at the moment in the process of extending the cleaning cycle. So since I think it's the 13th of August, we've been running at 45 terajoules a day with the next absorber due to be cleaned next week. So that you would see a gradual increase just on the existing configuration. And what we're talking about here with the Phase 2b works and the 2 parts of that, the nozzles and the filter, is to get that rate up as high sustainably as high as possible. The 68 is our contractual commitment. It was APA's contractual commitment with us. And that stands. That's unchanged. In terms of -- so let's wind forward now to the end of the Phase 2b works and the filter system is in place. And as Mike said, we're not in a position today to say, yes, it will be running at 50 or 55 or 60, 65, 70, 75. We're not in a position to say that. When we can, we will. What we do know is that each absorber when clean can operate stably at 34 terajoules a day. Now someone can do simple math, and hope that, that rolled through to 2 times, 34 being 68. But we're not in a position at the moment to say that's exactly what we expect. But certainly, what we're targeting is to get the rate -- the stable rate up as high as possible. So linking that back to reserves, it doesn't have any impact on reserves. It just has an impact on the time period over which you recover those reserves. So our numbers don't -- in terms of the total proven probable reserves, don't change. It's just the time period over which we recover those reserves. I mean just while we're on that, we are also seeing -- from a reservoir point of view, it still is performing at or better than we had expected from a reservoir perspective. And I'd point to the fact that we've actually got possible reserves in Sole as well, but it's too early to talk about what might happen with them. Does that answer your questions, Scott?

Scott Ashton

analyst
#29

Yes, that's great, David, because I also monitor this pretty closely, and it's interesting to see the work that's going on. Look, something just a little bit more esoteric, not being sort of difficult here. Is anyone making any money on the sulfur solids? Are you getting a revenue stream from the sulfur?

David Maxwell

executive
#30

I'm going to pass that one to Michael or Dean to answer.

Dean Johnson

executive
#31

Yes. I'll say no, not at this point in time. It's a waste stream at the moment. APA are doing work on that, but our commentary on that [indiscernible] no revenue from that.

Michael Jacobsen

executive
#32

I think it is something that the important thing is to get the rate -- sustainable rate of the plant up. That's where all the attention needs to be. And then there's a revenue stream from the sulfur that's further down the track.

Dean Johnson

executive
#33

And that doesn't come back to us, anyway.

Michael Jacobsen

executive
#34

Yes.

Operator

operator
#35

There are no further questions at this time. I'll now hand back to Mr. Maxwell for closing remarks.

David Maxwell

executive
#36

Thank you. Look, the reason that we wanted -- as Mike said at the outset, that we wanted to give this presentation is we really appreciate the interest and understand the interest that there is at Orbost, the Orbost Gas Plant operated by APA. It has been a difficult period, and there's a lot of work that's been undertaken at that time. And what we wanted to do was to share with you the details of what's planned and the reason why there's optimism for this plant to get up to the rates that we had all planned and expected. And that was the purpose of today. If people do have questions outside of this presentation, please send them through to Derek Piper. Derek will work with Mike and Dean and get to any further answers. Separate to that, we have on Monday our financial results, and we'll be talking about the outlook for the next -- for this FY '22 financial year and what we're expecting. And we'll be factoring into those results the improvement that we expect to come from Orbost. On that note, thanks very much for joining.

Operator

operator
#37

That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

Read the full transcript via the API

You're viewing the first half of this call. Get the complete Amplitude Energy Limited transcript — plus 248,000+ transcripts from 12,000+ companies, speaker segments, AI summaries and full-text search — through the EarningsCalls.dev API.

Get the API View API docs →

For developers and AI pipelines

Programmatic access to Amplitude Energy Limited earnings transcripts and 248,000+ others is available through the EarningsCalls.dev REST API. Plans from $24.99/month — full transcripts, speaker segments, full-text search, and the recently-added /api/v1/transcripts/recent polling endpoint for ETL pipelines.