Anterix Inc. (ATEX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
May 21, 2024
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Jerome Darling
analystMy name is Jerome Darling, and I follow the cable and telecommunications space here at JPMorgan. I want to introduce Tim Gray, CFO of Anterix. Tim?
Timothy Gray
executiveThanks, Jerome. I really appreciate you and the JPM team having us today, and great to be here and talk.
Jerome Darling
analystGreat. Thanks for joining us.
Jerome Darling
analystI guess starting off at a high level, could you provide an overview of the Anterix asset base, the solutions you provide and the customers that you're trying to solve issues for?
Timothy Gray
executiveSure. We really see our mission to be the utility industry's partner, empowering enhanced visibility, control and security for the modern grid. And we do that with our unique 900-megahertz position. It's nationwide, and it really satisfies helping utilities with their need to monitor and control more and more devices. And wireless broadband network is the most effective and cost -- really cost-effective method to be able to do that. We're now seeing the connectivity of devices, millions and millions of devices being a problem that utilities now have to solve for and these private wireless broadband networks are the way to do that.
Jerome Darling
analystGot it. Okay. And Anterix specifically targets investor-owned utility companies. What's unique about that group of potential customers?
Timothy Gray
executiveThere are a couple of things. So for us, it's really the capitalization process that they go through where they want to capitalize the lease, build out these networks for command and control and security purposes so that Anterix isn't outlaying any capital from that perspective. And because they capitalize the leases, they also want to prepay for those leases. So we get the cash flow in early for a 20- or 30-year lease. We'll see the cash flow come in within the first 3 to 5 years of the transaction. So that has enabled us to do things like our $250 million buyback program. And there's also a unique need that these IOUs have with the changing -- what's changing in the utility industry and the massive need for grid modernization where you have things like distribution, transmission issues that didn't exist long ago -- that long ago where you had a coal plant or a gas plant that was putting out electricity in one direction. And then you've got electricity moving in many, many different directions, whether that's from wind farms that have now been developed or solar panels on roofs, where the utility has to measure power going in multiple different directions. And the amount of devices that are going on these networks to be able to do that is just growing and growing and growing. And a broadband network really beats the old legacy systems that they have to be able to do that work.
Jerome Darling
analystOkay. That makes sense. And then I guess, how should investors think about the total market opportunity in front of the company in terms of number of customers and potentially contract value?
Timothy Gray
executiveSure. So right now, we have over 60 IOUs within our pipeline. It's not a huge universe that we're going after. But that group also represents 90% of the value that we see nationwide from a perspective of over -- well in excess of $3.5 billion. And so for us now, it's continuing to monetize that portfolio in addition to the 6 contracts we've gotten done to date worth over $270 million.
Jerome Darling
analystOkay. And then, I guess, could you just touch on kind of the evolution of the company since it's received its FCC ruling by -- in 2020. What has that done for the company? And where do you see the future going forward?
Timothy Gray
executiveYes. So it's hard to believe, but it's only been 4 years that we've had a product to sell. And so our broadband spectrum position enables us to do the things that we're out there doing for these utilities and putting us in a position to monetize that asset. So we've gone through a process of clearing our spectrum to move incumbents out of the way. So that takes -- levels the playing field for us so that we can offer that broadband spectrum and put it out there for folks. And then go forward with these long-term leases that we've put in place across multiple different utilities, we've also done 2 sale transactions, but it's really also enabled us to build the pipeline. And we've also done some other things. We've put in place the Utilities Broadband Alliance, which we built out and started and now it's on its own as a dues-paying organization split off from Anterix. We've also got what we call the Anterix Active Ecosystem that we've put in place with over 100 different vendors for utilities, whether that's the large infrastructure providers or it's small device makers. And so those are all putting -- all those entities are putting time, effort and money behind 900 megahertz. We've also developed an advisory board that we call the USAB. And this is with senior technology and information systems, folks directly from utilities that are talking about use cases and working together across the industry to be able to do that. Because at the end of the day for us in building this marketplace, our best sales force is not our own internal people. It's the utilities themselves because they all share information. They all talk to each other with these regulated monopolies. So when someone is at a forum like this, that's got a network, they've leased spectrum from us. They're building and putting up their sites. They're talking about their use cases and it's got a room full of their brethren. It's really helpful that the utilities hear from each other versus sometimes hearing from us.
Jerome Darling
analystRight. That makes sense. And obviously, there's a clear focus on utilities. Are there any other groups that Anterix could potentially provide solutions for?
Timothy Gray
executiveYes. We see the core value being in the investor-owned utilities, but one of the deals that we did recently was with the Lower Colorado River Authority, which is a quasi-governmental utility agency in the state of Texas, but they also provide water services where they monitor the Lower Colorado River in Texas. And there's a whole separate set of use cases that don't necessarily go through the IOUs from a water perspective, and we're starting to see more appetite from that avenue. Also, from gas. There are a lot of pipeline monitoring and things like that from a use case perspective that we're starting to see as well. And so we've got some interest in the pipeline from that. And so on the oil and gas side. So there are opportunities that we see just outside of just directly the IOUs.
Jerome Darling
analystOkay. That makes sense. Then I guess, tackling some recent news in February, Anterix, along with other industry participants, filed a petition with the FCC for an expanded 5x5 [ pair ] within the 900-megahertz band. If this is approved, what does it mean for Anterix? And how does that kind of change the path of the company going forward?
Timothy Gray
executiveYes. So it's really about what the customers and the utilities themselves want. And that's why we had multiple people go on this filing in addition to Anterix and that included multiple utilities because they see the future of -- the use cases are just going to continue to grow. The data usage is going to continue to explode as it has on every device that everybody uses every day. There's just going to be more and more information needed to monitor flowing through these networks. You're going to have things like smart meters, where utility is not just pinging your meter once a month or once a week to find out your usage so they can do your bill. They're going to be monitoring your electric usage during the afternoon on a super-hot day so they can power up or down certain equipment in your house like your hot water heater. And those things are going to be super important and continue to move forward as we go over time. Today, we feel like the current 3x3, we have is plenty of capacity for the current needs of the customer set that we've got. But everyone sees that this -- the data usage is just going to continue to grow over time. And since the FCC asked this question in the report and order that they put together in 2020 about when would be the right time to consider this question, we felt like this was the right time to start that process and move it forward. We feel like this is a bipartisan issue. It's not one or the other. People are behind what we're trying to do. That's why we've had so many positive comments both in the initial filing and in the comments that just came through. So we'll continue to push the process forward. As we always know with the FCC, and we learned back in the original process that we did. You can't really predict the timing. But we see this as much more momentum than the early 3x3 process did. And hopefully, we'll get completed faster to be able to provide even more spectrum to those customers.
Jerome Darling
analystOkay. Let's talk about deal pacing. Over the last 2 years, Anterix has done an average of 2 deals a year for about $45 million a piece. You've given guidance and said that the average deal size in the pipeline is about $60 million. Could you speak to what causes the elongated sales cycle and makes the prediction in terms of timing of these deals very difficult?
Timothy Gray
executiveYes. If it was just a lease transaction, it would be super easy. But what the utility is going through is they're doing a business case and going through a process of improving a complete wireless build-out or wireless network build-out. So a lease of spectrum may be a very small sliver of that total overall cost when you look at that pie, you can have, for example, for this conversation, a $1 billion project, of which a spectrum lease maybe, for discussion purposes, $50 million. But it's that $1 billion project that they're pushing through their own internal processes. And this is new and novel to have one wireless broadband network within a utility. So there's a lot of work that has to be done across a majority of different levels. You've got different operating companies. You've got a holding company. You've got C-suite folks that all have to be able to work through this. And they have their own process when they go through very large capital projects that involve so many different perspectives, including regulatory, where they need to get people to sign off on it, and that just takes time. And we can do the best that we can do to help that process along. But we have very little, almost no control over the process at all. But we'll do the things that I've talked about, like try to make it easier. Things like working on use cases, working on things like the Anterix Active Ecosystem, setting up our spectrum, so it goes through -- so it has gone through the 3GPP process where it's going to be enabled for 5G from a 3x3 perspective as we move forward at 900 megahertz. All of those things take questions off the table. But at the end of the day, when you've got $1 billion or whatever it is a very, very large project, it's going to take a lot of time. And so pinpointing when exactly that utility is going to sign a lease with us as they move through getting that whole project approved has proved to be difficult. And so that's why we haven't -- we've moved away from trying to predict when things are exactly going to happen.
Jerome Darling
analystOkay. Let's talk about some deals that you guys have actually signed to date, starting with the Tampa Electric Company. Last -- late last year, you guys signed a 20-year lease for roughly $35 million. I think it was $34.5 million. What else can you share with us in terms of this deal, perhaps valuation, service coverage area? Any other details you can share there?
Timothy Gray
executiveYes. So it's for approximately 3 counties in Central Florida for the service territory that Tampa Electric covers, again, a $34.5 million deal. We feel like, as with the other deals that we've done, we've gotten fair market value for those 3 counties for spectrum value. Spectrum value as we see. We've talked about being between the goalpost of 600 megahertz and the AWS-3 auction. But of course, things have changed. There have been more transactions below 1 gigahertz that have taken place in the last several years that have more than doubled or paid double the price of 600 megahertz. And so we're taking all those considerations into how we see fair market value, and we're continuing to see that go up, and we're reflecting that in our pricing. We've received roughly $7 million from Tampa Electric of the $34.5 million. The remainder will receive over the next couple of years. Again, where I talk about how we've got a long lease, but we're getting all those proceeds in over the first couple of years. We'll recognize revenue over a 20-year period. So there's a little bit of a gap between GAAP accounting and the cash flow. But all good for Anterix and a good transaction to really get into the state of Florida, where there are multiple other entities that we're engaged with as well.
Jerome Darling
analystRight. Okay. And how does the Tempa Electric deal compare to your largest deal for $80 million with Xcel Energy. Is there anything that differentiated you would call out there?
Timothy Gray
executiveWell, I mean the deal with Xcel, it's 100-plus counties, very different geography, very different geographic spectrum value. But again, we feel like for Xcel, we got spectrum value -- the fair market value for that spectrum. And so all good from that perspective as we look at it. But of course, having the big deal, having these larger utilities, Xcel is really a thought leader. And we've had a lot of success with having Xcel people speak at forums like I talked about earlier about all the different opportunities that they're doing with their network and the initial successes that they're starting to see as well.
Jerome Darling
analystOkay. And then are there any other larger deals in the pipeline perhaps, maybe 6-figure deals, investors are typically very interested in you guys pulling one of those through?
Timothy Gray
executiveAs are we. But yes, we do have multiple 6-figure deals that we are working in the pipeline. Again, because they're big, that means that the wireless network project is also a really big number, and that takes a lot of time to work its way through their internal systems and processes. But we feel like there's good opportunity even in the very, very large utilities. And the hope and the expectation is in the near term, we'll start to see some announcements around those. But we're also going to see -- continue to see some on the medium size and the smaller end, the utilities all come in different shapes and sizes and have different spectrum values for the territories that they cover. But from a large deal perspective, we do know that we will see larger deals than what we did with Xcel at $80 million.
Jerome Darling
analystGot it. Okay. And let's talk a little bit about the Demonstrated Intent scorecard. So in late 2022, you guys moved away from issuing formal guidance. Could you kind of talk about the thought process behind going to the scorecard, why it was needed and how you guys use a scorecard internally?
Timothy Gray
executiveRight. So from our customer perspective, when we're talking about how we're doing from a pipeline perspective, it's hard to really give a lot of detail because we're under NDA with so many -- with all of these customers. So we can't say X utility has gone to this part of the process and is exactly here. So what we wanted to talk about was a way to assess intent that these customers have to move forward with us at 900 megahertz. And so we took a variety of factors that we've learned from the customers that we've signed and some that are still in the pipeline about how they're showing that they're moving forward and they'll eventually get there. It's more a question of when, not if, as they move to these processes. And once they cross a certain threshold of these scores, we've got 20 factors that we look at that we give a weighting to and things that may be public, things that may be private from just going on between us, but let me give you a couple of examples, whether someone puts out an RFP for spectrum to build out a network. Well, that's a sign that they're doing something. But these things in and of itself, just even like that, don't necessarily mean that they're totally committed to moving forward. It's an aggregation of multiple things. It's joining a Board. It's talking at a forum. It's beginning pricing negotiation with us and trading paper from a contract perspective. All of those things are boxes that we tick off and we score. And once they reach a certain threshold, we're going to talk about them in our Demonstrated Intent. We've got 18 utilities in there right now with a value of over $1.1 billion. And just let me add that this is something that our internal team and our Board take very seriously. We just had an audit committee meeting yesterday. We were talking with our auditors who we've asked to make sure that we're doing the right thing here because this is a new thing that we've put out in the last year. Are we doing scores the right way? Are we providing the right documentation? All of those types of things to make sure we get it 100% accurate when we're out there talking about it with investors. It's a lot of good feedback from the teams yesterday. But we take a lot of care and make sure that the sales folks are continuing to move these things along because it's just part of getting there. Are they going to -- is every utility going to check off all 20 boxes at the end of the day? No, all of these deals are different and they go about a different path that kind of meanders one way or another, but they -- we've had 6 get there at the end. And a lot of these factors were what we were able to score and say, okay, now we knew they were going to get there, and they would sign a contract with us. So it's been effective, I think, both internally and I hope, externally for folks like yourselves on the analyst side and as well as investors to see the progress that we're making and overcome the difficulty of being able to talk without a lot of detail about utility by utility.
Jerome Darling
analystAll right. Okay. And what are you seeing from a competitive perspective? Who are the other players in the spectrum space? And why do customers prefer to work with Anterix versus the field?
Timothy Gray
executiveYes. I mean I think from our perspective -- let me talk about Anterix first. We've built a marketplace. And we've done things like I talked about earlier, whether that's that Anterix Active Ecosystem, the USAB, UBA and things like that to bring people together to talk about the need for these networks, the need for under 1 gigahertz spectrum with its lower cost basis with its propagation and penetration characteristics of being able to lower costs from an operating cost perspective of having less cell sites and things like that, that are all very important. We also, from our perspective, have the advantage of being able to tailor the spectrum that we offer at the county level. So we can make sure that the spectrum that we're leasing or selling in the few cases that we've done ties directly to a utility's service territory. So they're not having to pay for spectrum that they're not using. So that's another thing. Second is we've been able to work through the process with the utilities where they're able to capitalize the spectrum cost, which is very, very important to them. And we've effectively gone through that now in multiple different iterations across the deals that we've gotten put in place. And so Anterix has done a lot, a lot of the right things to put this market in place and have people moving through, as I just talked about, our Demonstrated Intent scorecard. But yes, I mean, are there competitors? Absolutely. There are different pockets of spectrum holders that say 600 megahertz that sometimes want to engage with the utility, but they have different issues like not being able to tailor spectrum exactly to that utility's service territory. And we've also put ourselves in place where you're not going to have the OpEx cost perspective from different competitives where they might get from a carrier, where they're paying by the bit or by the device. That's not something they want to do. They want to capitalize those costs moving forward. So there have been some players who have stepped in, put their toes in and out of the process. But to date, we've been very effective in building the marketplace, and we feel good about our position.
Jerome Darling
analystGot it. And then I guess, why haven't members of the Big 3, AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, some of the other carriers that have a lot of spectrum, why haven't they kind of ventured into this space?
Timothy Gray
executiveWe're not saying they can't. I mean they've got size and heft of their own nationwide networks. But I think it's really what it boils down to is some of the hurdles that have to be overcome from a utility perspective. As I just talked about, it's the capitalization piece. That's one key, for instance, where they know working with us, they can capitalize the spectrum, not necessarily sure how that would work from a carrier perspective. From a utility, it's really important when they think about it that they're choosing where things like cell sites go, where they've got rural substations and things like that, where they want to make a decision about where to put the site even when there's no people, how much they harden that site so that when a hurricane or a tornado happened, that site is either going to stay up or they can determine how fast it gets back up when somebody else may prioritize putting up a population center versus that substation that's so incredibly important to getting power back on for that population center that utility can run through. And they've got the security aspect of running their own network. That's also very important to them. So we'll see who else comes to play here, but there are a lot of things from a utility perspective that we feel like we've got in place to be the sweet spot for them.
Jerome Darling
analystOkay. And let's take a question from the line. So with all of the CapEx being spent by utilities for increased power, specifically related to AI, why aren't these utilities spending faster on private networks?
Timothy Gray
executiveThat's a good question. And as I talked about, I mean, they move at their own pace. Even when they move fast, it's still relatively -- it's slower than a lot of other industries. And we've come to learn that kind of is what it is. But the pace that we're seeing, the intent -- the increased intent that we're seeing, we all see positive signs. Yes, we'd like to see things move faster, and we're working to make sure that they can move as fast as possible from our perspective.
Jerome Darling
analystOkay. And then is there an opportunity for some of these utilities to use federal dollars to subsidize the build-out of their networks? What are you seeing from that perspective?
Timothy Gray
executiveYes. So in a couple of infrastructure bills that were passed over the past few years, we have seen the availability of some money for -- whether it's from a broadband perspective or other grid modernization enhancements that multiple utilities that we have worked with have either applied for funds and are working through that process right now with the federal government or it's really kind of pushed their thinking and accelerated their thinking about this process and how they want to move and work through a business case and all of those things that are going to be important that may make federal funding be a part of it. But yes, there are going to -- there are current options for them to be able to do so. And each utility kind of takes that on a case-by-case basis from within their own perspective. But I think we're going to see, at least, hopefully, in the near term, some additional investment coming from the federal government that helps support these build-outs moving forward.
Jerome Darling
analystOkay. And how is Anterix thinking about the potential implications of an election year? Could you kind of talk about the different scenarios there? What would benefit you? What would potentially take away?
Timothy Gray
executiveSure. I think there's 2 ways there's some impact. On the core business, we really don't see any. That grid modernization, the enhancements we're talking about, the bills that have already been passed and put in place are all important, all have a lot of bipartisan support. So -- and everybody knows that what's happening in the utility industry is going to need a grid monetization enhancement moving forward. So we don't foresee any election year issues or potential changes causing impacts there. From a 5x5 perspective, that process is going to continue to move through. We feel like we have bipartisan support on that as well. But if there's a potential change in administration, there's always a change in focus for a short period of time while people figure things out in Washington. But again, we expect that process to hopefully continue to move forward positively.
Jerome Darling
analystOkay. And then just touching on something you mentioned earlier, spectrum clearing. Could you kind of explain to investors what spectrum clearing is and why it's required?
Timothy Gray
executiveSure. So it's a common process in spectrum rule changes that the FCC puts forth. And so this has happened over time in multiple different bands. In the 3x3 that the FCC approved in 2020, there were incumbents built within currently using spectrum channels within the 3x3 that was allocated for broadband from the FCC. It's up to Anterix at Anterix cost to move those incumbents out of the way. The FCC built in a mandatory provision that once you go to a certain amount of ownership of the spectrum, you could go to incumbents and move them kind of and tell them they have to go. We haven't had to put that in place yet because people -- spectrum holders and 900 megahertz holders know that this is a very common practice, and this happens and they know they're going to get paid for it. They know that if they want to continue to use their channels, they'll get moved to spectrum outside of the 3x3 but still that they can use effectively in the same way that they're using it today. We had talked in 2020 about spending roughly $120 million to $150 million to clear those incumbents. We're probably close to 70% of the way through that, both from a spending perspective as well as an incumbent clearing perspective in the number of incumbents that are there. This is also the type of spend that we can throttle up and throttle down depending on where we are with customers and what's happening from that perspective. So things are happening faster, we can spend more quickly. If things are slower, we can slow that clearing down -- clearing spending down as well. We anticipate -- and I've talked about this in the upcoming fiscal year spending roughly $25 million to $30 million for some additional clearing over the next year.
Jerome Darling
analystOkay. So we've touched on CapEx. How should investors think about operating expenses? In calendar year '23, you spent about $40 million. How should we -- excluding stock-based compensation, how should we expect that to trend moving forward?
Timothy Gray
executiveYes. I mean I would expect some slight increases. I expect that cost, as I've talked about many times with investors from an operating cost perspective to be like a bell curve where as we continue to penetrate more and more, we'll be able to start to bring costs down. We're going to probably peak in the next year or 2 in the $45 million to $47 million range. We'll be a little bit less than that this year and continue to move the ball forward with what we're trying to do effectively.
Jerome Darling
analystOkay. And the company's Board recently -- well, not recently, but you approved a $250 million buyback program. This was 5x the size of your prior program. Could you talk a little bit more about the thinking there and why the Board decided to approve such a large buyback?
Timothy Gray
executiveYes. So we did that in September of 2023, so just this last year. And effectively, it was a statement of confidence in the pipeline that we have. We see internally where we are with customers that are coming, the sizes, the scopes, what potential payment terms could look like and felt that, that was a number that we could effectively meet over a 3-year period. And we wanted to put that out there to really emphasize how good we feel about where the pipeline is and how that it is going to. We're going to see more transactions closed during that time frame with those upfront payments that will enable us to fund that program. We've been active. We've continued to buy shares since that announcement has been made, and we will continue to do so.
Jerome Darling
analystOkay. And then are there any additional opportunities to partner with utilities potentially as a reseller of some products? Any other revenue-generating opportunities above and beyond the spectrum that Anterix could tackle?
Timothy Gray
executiveYes, there are. Definitely. And that's something that we're looking very closely at with a small team. We just hired a new VP of Product from Itron whose specific focus is to look at not only supporting use cases that utilities need to make sure that they can move forward with monetizing our spectrum but also some additional revenue opportunities in the future potentially for Anterix. And these are things like a product that we've put out within the last year called CatalyX, which is really just to help support the transition for utilities from narrowband to broadband. It's really a needed product for those that have questions about how they're going to manage their systems as they go from their old legacy systems to their new broadband systems. And so there are active RFPs where companies are actually thinking about this process that we're involved in with this product. And we'll continue to put things out that we think are going to be, one, helpful for utilities as they move forward, 2, accretive to our shareholders and build long-term value for them over time.
Jerome Darling
analystOkay. And then lastly, as you think about the future of the company, perhaps over the next 5 to 10 years, what do you think investors are missing that will eventually show up in the numbers and cause the stock to potentially go up?
Timothy Gray
executiveThat's a good question. Really, at the end of the day, we're in the early innings here. I mean we've only had a product that we really could sell for 4 years, and I want to reemphasize that. It's really been a short amount of time to be able to put that together. We're excited about what we've built, the marketplace that we've put together, the things I've talked about a couple of different times today around how we're helping utilities move forward here, whether that's the Active Ecosystem or other things that we've put in place. We're excited about, encouraged by the progress that we've seen that we continue to show every day, and I get to see it internally. And in general, the other issue that we're seeing is the importance of these networks on a day in and day out basis just continues to grow. Data usage is not slowing down. It is continuing to accelerate and will continue to accelerate for these utilities. And so they're going to need these communication solutions to really drive home the answers that they need.
Jerome Darling
analystAnd could Anterix make sense as a part of a larger industrial or wireless provider?
Timothy Gray
executiveYes. But we're operators. We're going to run this company the best that we can to continue to drive results to continue to move our pipeline forward, and that's what we do. And that's the history of the folks that are running the organization, and that's what we'll continue to do on a day in and day out basis and continue to fire on the #1 priority that we have is to monetize the spectrum asset we've got.
Jerome Darling
analystGreat. Tim, I think that's a great place to leave it. Thanks for joining us today.
Timothy Gray
executiveThanks, again, Jerome. I appreciate the time.
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