AptarGroup, Inc. (ATR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 15, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Daniel Cohen
analystOkay. Good morning, everybody. I'm Daniel Cohen, I'm a Managing Director at Morgan Stanley. It's my pleasure to host this fireside chat with the leadership of AptarGroup. AptarGroup is a global leader in drug delivery and active material science, the technology behind the nasal sprays, inhalers, injectables and dispensing systems that get critical medicines to patients. Before I introduce the team, just the disclosures that I need to read. For important disclosures, please see the Morgan Stanley research disclosure website at morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. And if you have any questions, please reach out to your Morgan Stanley representative. With me here today, Gael Touya recently stepped into the role of President and CEO, capping more than 3 decades at Aptar and most recently leading the Pharma segment. Vanessa Kanu joined as Executive Vice President and CFO in January 2025, bringing a deep track record as a public company CFO. Gael, Vanessa, welcome, and thank you for -- both for being here.
Gael Touya
executiveThank you, Daniel, for the invite.
Vanessa Kanu
executiveThank you.
Daniel Cohen
analystGael, congratulations on this next chapter as CEO. How should we think about Aptar priorities going forward under your leadership? What carries forward and perhaps where will there be changes?
Gael Touya
executiveYes. So look, the first priority is really to execute on 2026 and our commitment. So no question. We need to deliver based upon our commitment and at the same time, is prep the company for our future long-term growth. This being said, I mean, priority one would be to stay focused and close to the Pharma segment. This is the growth engine for the company, looking for my successor for the segment. So I'm going to stay close to it because we need to keep on delivering where we are, and we've got a good business, a good pipeline and customers expecting on our partnership with them. And then, look, I've been okay, 3 decades with the company. But it's been a long time, I was a beauty guy or a food and beverage guy. So as we speak, I have started my listening tour with the organization. So reengaging with customers, reengaging with the team and visiting the site. We've got a global footprint. So starting, I will continue and priority would be to make sure that from an Aptar standpoint, we allocate resources, energy and our CapEx to the opportunities where we've got the greatest returns, value not only for customers but for shareholders.
Daniel Cohen
analystThank you. Vanessa, you've been with the company for going on 2 years now. Some of the markets still describes Aptar as a packaging company. When you first looked under the hood and over the past 2 years, what surprised you most about the business, particularly about the economic side of the business?
Vanessa Kanu
executiveYes. So first of all, I definitely would not describe Aptar Pharma as a traditional packaging company. So when I first joined the company, I have to tell you, I was very impressed by the breadth of the portfolio. So spanning everything from our proprietary drug delivery devices to our injectable solutions, to active material science solutions to the services that we offer, going from formulation expertise to development support, regulatory support. I'm sure we'll talk a bit more about those services in our discussion. But when you look at the breadth of the portfolio and you look particularly at the product that we offer, these are products that are very technical, highly regulated, where safety, quality are super important, very, very important because we cannot compromise patients' lives. And so this is where our technical expertise, our intellectual property and our decades of know-how in this space really do form a competitive -- a differentiator, so to speak, and you do see that in our margin profile. In the Pharma business, our EBITDA margins, I should say, are -- 32% to 36% is our target range, and we have consistently been in that target range. And I mean, these are EBITDA margins that are best in class. And so I would say it's really more reflective of a differentiated technology platform than a traditional packaging business.
Daniel Cohen
analystSo not even simply a component supplier either. There's more of a platform perhaps around that.
Vanessa Kanu
executiveAbsolutely.
Daniel Cohen
analystMaybe just to talk a little bit about the transition. Obviously, you've been, Gael, in the job for a couple of weeks now. Stephan would say -- I think, was known for saying, "if it goes through the nose, Aptar is involved." Is that still how we should think about Aptar?
Gael Touya
executiveHe was making a comment for Aptar Pharma. And I will say it's a colorful way to describe in the group. In the pharma space. We are way more than a component player. That was one of your questions. And 9 years ago, I mean, taking over the segment, this is all the work done to transition from a strong product vertical where I believe we've got the best-in-class drug delivery solutions for the nose, for the lungs, for ophthalmic or dermal type application. And we added a lot of capacity in order to make sure that we could become the partner of choice of customers. And it does require that you start as soon as possible in the drug development program of our customers. So -- and then you follow the molecule. So we've got, as we speak, 9 years after, the ability to do formulation strategy, formulation development, predominantly for the respiratory tract and then to add the analytical support, the regulatory expertise for our customers, big, large and all the early-stage biotech company to be in front of regulatory bodies and to be approved. So I will say we are way more than just a component, we are really part of the overall drug development program with our customers with a lot of humility. We know where we stand, where we can support them when we can derisk and accelerate their drug development program. More broadly, Aptar is not only a pharma player, we are a long, long standing relationship, a very strong competitive advantage in beauty, in food and beverage. So everywhere where you need to protect formulation and dispense complex formulation, Aptar is the partner of choice. And this is what I'd like to emphasize, the proximity, the long-lasting relationship with customers because we know how to solve their most complex dispensing challenges.
Daniel Cohen
analystAnd do you see -- given your recent tenure leading that Pharma business, do you see opportunities in your new role to bring some of that some of the learnings or some of the expertise from pharma to the other parts of the business?
Gael Touya
executiveYes. One of the learnings, if you really want to be a partner of choice and if you want to be, let's say, mission-critical for your customers, you need to bring way more than just a dispensing platform. You need to create value beyond products. So from components to integrated solutions, to service capabilities, digital support, where you're going to be supporting your customers during their development program and whatever the kind of development program. And the objective is for us to become the most trusted collaborators where we're going to be part of their success. So depending on the business categories, we will have to create that value beyond just a technical platform. [indiscernible] mentioned, for example, in the beauty world, I mean you've got a lot of evolutions around the nature of fragrance without ethanol and so on and so forth. I mean how we're going to provide them the maximum support to find the right solution. I was with L'Oreal not long ago. They've got a segment called Beauty Dermatology. L'Oreal is the #1 beauty player in the world. They were talking prescription, patients blur frontier between the pure skin care and the consumer health care, where to navigate. And the co-CEO of L'Oreal was telling again, you've got the unique expertise where you can really support a skincare player to transition to become way more a health care player where tech and science are so critical because consumer at the end of the day, we are patient and consumer at the same time, we want effective results.
Daniel Cohen
analystThank you. Maybe turning a little bit to diving into the business a bit. The last 18 months have been -- there's been some volatility in the business. Could you talk about that, reflect on that and perhaps how that -- how you think about the longer-term 7% to 11% pharma growth rate. I think that you've -- you've got there.
Gael Touya
executiveCorrect. Yes. So if we step back, the last 9 years, we've been growing top line at a CAGR growth rate of 9%, but in the last 18 months, we've been facing some volatility and that's due to the emergency medicine. You know that we are a strong partner of the opioid overdose issues. I mean trying to make sure that you've got naloxone drugs all over the place in the U.S. And this market is facing inventory readjustments. So we qualify the, kind of, negative impacts, we're going to face in 2026 with a $65 million top line impact. And obviously, we are losing the contribution for. We are trending pretty in line with what we share with you, and we are very close to our customers. So we believe by early 2027, we will know where the baseline of this market will be. This being said, and if you look at our Q2 results, excluding emergency medicine, that is a major impact. The Pharma segment grew by 8%. If I look at the different divisions, Injectable grew by 9%. And Q2 2025 was a very solid, so comparisons were challenging. And following 2 quarters with plus 20% growth rate. Consumer Health Care done plus 15%. And prescription -- pharma prescription excluding the Naloxone impact. I mean the emergency medicine impact at plus 8%. So beyond your question, should we change our framework and the algorithm? The answer is no. The 7% to 11% long-term growth remain the framework, we believe, strongly. Market conditions are good. The overall pharma market is growing. Some segments are growing faster than others. And then you combine or you accelerate that growth with your innovation and with your pipeline build and pipeline conversion. One example, the cough and cold market has been quite challenging for us. The growth rate is GDP plus. You've got the ability to accelerate that growth, thanks to your innovations because you're going to convert some dispensing solutions to your innovation. And this is what Haleon, one of the leader in the market with Theraflu in the U.S., Otrivine outside of the U.S. is grabbing significant market share with our new innovation. So that's where natural market growth, accelerated by innovation and innovation, critical for us and the pipeline build and pipeline conversion make us being confident with the 7% to 11% long-term targets.
Daniel Cohen
analystGreat. Just a question on margins as your pipeline expands into other therapeutic areas, cardio, neuro and biologics. How do you -- how does the margins of that business compare to existing margins?
Gael Touya
executiveSo you know we share with you, we've got 4 divisions, Prescription is the most profitable divisions of Aptar Pharma followed by Consumer Health care, Active Material Science and then Injectable. The nose to brain or the central nervous system type we are doing via the prescription division. So to give you some color on maybe some indications about potential margin expansion for this pipeline conversion, part of the pipeline conversion. And that's why we are comfortable with the 32% to 36% profitability range. What would I characterize for you? Years back, Aptar Pharma entered the nasally delivered drug to treat local issues. You've got your nose running, you've got your nose block, you've got your allergies. But in the last 9 years, we have been working a lot in order to use the nose as a different pathway to treat chronic disease to treat emergency. This is what we see with Naloxone being one example. You take Baqsimi for severe hypoglycemia, you take spravato for depression-resistant treatment. You take the [indiscernible] or UCB for severe, I will say, epileptic seizure or epinephrine with neffy. So the more and more you're going to use the nose as an alternative pathway for chronic and emergency treatment, and part of the pipeline is more and more for the nose to brain, where we are working actively with different scientific organizations in order to characterize the science behind the nose-to-brain delivery pathway. We published yesterday a joint collaboration with the Mass General Hospital. What is the job there with them is to characterize the pathway to understand the kinetics of the drugs moving from the nose to go through the brain and to avoid the blood-brain barrier that is highly protecting, I mean, the brain. So we are characterizing the science, we want to evaluate different compounds or different potential candidates to go through the nose for CNS treatment. And that's the work we are doing and that's the quality of our pipeline. And that's why we were indicating with Vanessa. We are not just a component, we really play with them to understand the science behind to understand the regulatory standpoint or to build the regulatory with authorities and the analytical science. The objective for us is to demonstrate to the hundreds of early-stage biotech that nose to brain might be a very interesting delivery pathway.
Daniel Cohen
analystCan you talk ...
Vanessa Kanu
executiveIf I can just add because I wanted to make sure we hit your margin comments also. So just to complement what Gael was saying, the pipeline is very diversified. It is -- if you kind of look at the weighted pipeline in terms of what does it comprise, right? It's respiratory, it's biologics. It's the systemic nasal drug delivery that Gael's talking to, its injectables, ophthalmic, et cetera. And the reason I really wanted to complement Gael to add that on is because it's not going to be any one molecule, any one therapeutic area, any one delivery route, it's very diversified. And when you think about the top items there, these are the highest margin parts of our portfolio. So when you think long-term margin profile, which is, kind of, where you're going, it is well supported just based on what is in our pipeline today and the weighted value actually skews upward.
Daniel Cohen
analystOne other exciting area of pharma is the GLP-1 space. Can you talk about the opportunity in intranasal or pulmonary delivery and if Aptar is playing a role there?
Gael Touya
executiveSo our business model is customer-led. I mean we work with pharma company. We support them to accelerate and derisk their drug development program. In the space of GLP-1, everybody is focusing on injection and oral, we participate to that growth. But nobody was really moving there. So because we've got the capability to say, hey, why not taking an API and working around the formulations to nasally deliver GLP-1 or to look through the lungs. We've got the formulation capabilities. We've got the technical platform capabilities, why not doing this? So we've done it. We file the patent and so on. We're going to be looking whether we can partner with some companies because we don't look at going to the end. That's not where we are. And that was also a way, Daniel, to prove our thought leadership. Whenever it goes through the nose or the lung, we are more than a component, and we can really support you guys in your drug development. So will GLP-1 delivered through the nose will be a huge -- I mean administration pathway? I don't know. It's a good example of what we can offer. Let's look pragmatically speaking, how can we support biotech, a big company that could be interesting by the work we have done and let's look at that one. I mean there are many cases when you think about Enbumyst where we work with the lab -- I mean when you do excess body [ fluid ], you can take your pill or you go to the hospital and you've got an IV. We work with them to say, maybe you can have a treatment through the nose. So that's the same principle to support customers whenever they consider a potential alternative pathway.
Daniel Cohen
analystAnd it sounds like some of that early work may start on your own, but you will look to partner that with the customer.
Gael Touya
executiveIdeally, we want to start with early-stage biotech. How can we support you? Obviously, the earlier we start, the earlier we're going to spec our drug delivery platform, once you start generating data and if you do a good job and you are a true partner of choice, you're going to continue the course of the developments. And then you look at your revenue extraction model being slightly different. Fees for service, but why not also extracting your fair value from the work you are doing through access fees, milestone payments, change of control and why not drug royalties. So that's also a way to strengthen our pipeline, have a defensive moat around our product and to generate different revenue streams.
Daniel Cohen
analystGot it. Maybe talk a little bit -- because you do play across the life cycle of a drug, maybe talk about a little bit conceptually about how the economics for Aptar evolve as a drug goes from brand to generic maybe to OTC. Is that -- there's a lot -- there's evolution that's going on in the respiratory market with the new propellants, how does that all interplay in your business?
Gael Touya
executiveOkay. So we are actively focusing on the life saving -- the life cycle management, sorry, for our customers. So you're right, the drug will start with an originator. Some years after, you're going to get generic players and maybe the regulatory bodies will say from prescription, we can move OTC. This is what happened with Naloxone and with Emergent, the originator, but this is also what happened with many, many customers with whom we are working. So our algo is 90% of our business is really with the natural growth of the molecule, the ability to support this life cycle management and to provide support to generic company to enter that space and they are working with us. And then the additional growth rate will be really back to this innovation accelerator, convert additional market to our solutions and the pipeline conversion. In the example of the new propellant, the world is going to switch from current propellant to a new one, having less of an impact to global warming. The entire world is going to change, where Aptar is playing a role is to define the right technical platform that's going to be compatible with the new formulation because the formulation with the new propellant will behave differently. How to make sure that we're going to be fully compliant, number one. Number two, the regulatory pathway might be different. And we, at Aptar, working with the FDA in the U.S. to define the guidelines for pharma to come with an approval for a propellant switch because at the end of the day, it should be fully compliant, fully safe for the patient. So we are supporting our customers there, not only with the device, but with the services and that's our business model. This is from formulation to patients.
Daniel Cohen
analystAnd then maybe just turning to the injectable side, I think there's also an evolution, particularly in Europe with respect to Annex 1 compliance. How does that impact you?
Gael Touya
executiveSo the European regulatory agencies are raising the bar. The Annex 1 is really a requirement for all players in that ecosystem to be more, I would say, in line with the best product to be delivered on the market. So we are fully compliant with Annex 1, number one. We raised the bar everywhere in our different manufacturing sites. We've got a good pipeline build with Annex 1 because all our customers should comply with the regulation, and they are looking at partner, Aptar being one of them, to make sure that we've got the organization to be in line with Annex 1 in order to give them the comfort that Aptar is the right partner to be fully Annex 1 compliance. So that's a good pipeline build for us, and that's where we are fully committed to.
Daniel Cohen
analystGot it. Maybe Vanessa just talked a little bit about balance sheet, Aptar has relatively low leverage as a company, low amounts of debt. How do you, as a management team, prioritize returning of capital, organic investment and M&A as you look to the future.
Vanessa Kanu
executiveYes. So we have a very strong balance sheet. As you've pointed out, so we have discussed our leverage corridor being between 1x to 3x EBITDA. And the -- think of the leverage corridor as the range of leverage that we would expect to be within under normal steady-state conditions. So if we went above 3, we would expect to delever back down to be in that range. If we went below 1, we would expect to get back within the range. So that's our corridor. And as of the end of last quarter, we're about 1 -- just under 1.5 in leverage. So low on the leverage scale, as you mentioned, which gives us a lot of flexibility. In terms of how we deploy capital in terms of our priorities, our first priority is always to invest in the business, invest in the business, in R&D, in innovation, digital technologies, capital investments that will help to not only sustain the business but also drive profitable growth and obviously return. So that's always the first priority, organic and inorganically, in terms of where we deploy our capital. And then once we have done that, we obviously then prioritize return of capital back to shareholders. And in that vein, we're actually very proud of our dividend program. We are in -- we're 32 years of annually increasing dividend. We do participate in share buybacks. I would say that is the more flexible discretionary part of our capital allocation framework. Although if you look at the last 18 months alone, we've returned about $700 million of capital just in the last 18 months to shareholders, roughly $180 million in dividends and the rest being in share buybacks. So we've been pretty active on that front. But what I would say, just to your question about looking forward is what you can expect from the management team is to continue to prioritize those opportunities where we see that, of course, we're going to generate significant returns to the organization and ultimately our shareholders.
Daniel Cohen
analystWe've talked about a lot of different -- Aptar's exposure to a lot of different therapeutic areas, modalities, whether it's nasal or pulmonary, ophthalmics, injectable. If you look out, you're at the, kind of, beginning of a new journey. If you look out 3 or 5 years where would you expect to see the most exposure impact to your business. And also in addition to modalities, there's also therapeutic areas that we talked about that's pretty wide ranging. Where -- would you prognosticate into the future that will have the impact?
Gael Touya
executiveSo from a pipeline perspective, I would say, 3 years, I don't know whether this is a good indicator. You know that in pharma, everything is taking a little bit longer. That's all the work done around the nose to brain is pretty excited. So building the science, building the analytical framework to support the company. I mean when you think about some neurodegenerative issues with the Wake Forest University School of Medicine last year, I mean, we published a joint research and demonstrated that nose to brain, we've got a way better deposition rate of insulin and taking a pill or injections because you need to bypass the blood-brain barrier. So there's a lot of very interesting tractions, where not only this is a new pathway, but also the technical platform being different because you need to have a different delivery mechanism. So that's one area of interest. Obviously, all the SNDD, chronic disease treatment through the nose, through the lungs. We are working a lot around biologics as well. That could be an alternative pathway. And we are pretty excited to continue the work in the injectable space. In the injectable space, we are a component player. We have to be clear there. We supply stopper, plunger for prefilled syringe or needle shield protection. We provide a certain level of services behind and we participate in full to the growth of that market. So -- and it's strategic for us, but I wanted to be fair on that one. So we see the injectable having a lot of potentials because the market is looking for good, reliable partner, working with them for biologics trends for Annex 1, having a global footprint that we invested a lot in order to be present in China and the U.S. on top of Europe. So we're going to be pretty exciting, looking at injectable moving up. And it's going to be a lot already there. And helping the market to transition to the new propellant. We are also investing a lot more through the lungs, for the lungs with biologics, larger molecule that does require different kinds of [indiscernible] or [indiscernible] of drug delivery payload system, and we are actively working on this.
Daniel Cohen
analystWell, I think -- look, this is a health care conference, so we've spoken a lot about the Pharma business. So I appreciate that. I mean what certainly comes across is and perhaps is underappreciated is how deeply embedded Aptar is in the development and delivery of critical medicines. And so both from a component supply standpoint, services as well, so that certainly came across in your remarks today. Any final thoughts from you, Gael?
Gael Touya
executiveI will add something -- I mean we have not discussed patients, but that's maybe something that is underappreciated. I mean, everything we are doing at Aptar is patient focused. And when you look at the developments, we are offering user experience back to our customers. The economics about a product. We are providing human factor to our customers. We are providing on-boarding solution, the complexity of the world and with the shift from clinics to at home or to virtual settings, very challenging for a new patient to onboard and to have a good adherence rate. So we're working a lot on many times when you've got big players, Aptar is the one in the room with their commercial and their business development team to discuss patients because we do understand how the patient is going to behave and what kind of on-boarding solution. And we've got data showing that the better you are onboarded, the longer you stay the course and the sooner you're going to refill your script. And last, all the digital elements. We've got patient communities, for example, we've got an app that is used by over 3 million patients on a worldwide basis for migraine treatment. So how to track, how to understand, how to improve and potential issues. We've got this patient community. We are operating on behalf of Biogen. I mean we are the operator from a digital standpoint. So I truly believe that better understanding a patient in these environments, better supporting remote monitoring, having patient community is helping ready to position Aptar as a trusted partner with companies, not only as a drug delivery expert, having the ability to provide formulation, analytical and regulatory support, but also to put the patient at the center of everything.
Daniel Cohen
analystOn that note, thank you, Gael and Vanessa.
Gael Touya
executiveThank you very much.
Vanessa Kanu
executiveThank you.
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