Ardelyx, Inc. (ARDX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
February 24, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Ami Fadia
analystGood afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the next session on Ardelyx. As a reminder, I'm Ami Fadia. I cover biopharma and generics at SVB Leerink. And if you have any questions that you'd like me to ask during the conversation, please feel free to send it over through the dashboard. It's my pleasure to have Mike Raab, who's the President and CEO of the company today with me. Mike, thank you for taking the time for doing this. Maybe if we could -- if I could ask you to just kick us off with giving an overview of the company, your lead product and the other therapeutic areas you're looking to explore?
Michael Raab
executiveSure. Well, thank you, Ami. I really appreciate the invitation, and we've had a great day on Zoom meeting with a lot of a bunch of investors. So really appreciate the invite from you and SVB. So we've created Ardelyx in 2007 to do exactly what we're about to demonstrate with 2 months and 5 days from now with our PDUFA date looming for tenapanor for hyperphosphatemia. And the idea was seemingly a simple one that said, binders are no longer and cannot do what they need to do for patients on dialysis who have hyperphosphatemia. And that the epithelia the GI tract had transporters and mechanisms by which phosphorus is transported from food into the body, and that could be what we're targeting. Fast forward to what we've done with tenapanor. Tenapanor is a drug that blocks the primary pathway of absorption or phosphorus via the paracellular space. It's involved an important set of biology that we were able to deconvolute through our science and show that by using tenapanor, you can block a remarkable amount of phosphorus and have an impact with just 2 tiny pills a day versus these handfuls of material, be it iron, calcium, polymer, whatever it might be that is impossible for these patients to take in order for binders to work. So we're about to see the fruits of our labor presumably with an approval around our PDUFA date and then embark on the commercialization for the product with the team that we have hired is in the midst of training and ready to go out in the field soon and continue the disease awareness campaign that we have underway. To take that further, we've also focused on hyperkalemia with our RDX013 program, where that is entering Phase II. We shared some Phase I data during our Analyst Day late last year, showing that, again, with a small molecule -- we can do with a small amount of material, small molecule can do with handfuls or glassfuls of a slurry with the potassium binder accomplishes. And we also shared RDX020 which is a pre-lead program focused on metabolic acidosis. So our objective is to do with small molecules, what binders have been doing as a legacy technology.
Ami Fadia
analystOkay. That's a great overview.
Ami Fadia
analystWhy don't you talk about the value proposition of tenapanor. And especially I think relative to binders, it's clear. I think a question that we often get is how do we think about what it reached to the table relative to some of the other products that were launched such as Auryxia or Velphoro, how should we be thinking about that?
Michael Raab
executiveWell, the way I would think about any of the binders is they are in a class, right? They all do the same thing. They have a different backbone, but they have basically same efficacy and the same mechanism, and that is a binding of dietary phosphorus as it transits the GI, meaning you need to have these binders on board every single time you put food in your mouth. That's the optimal way to manage your phosphorus if you were taking a binder alone. So the value proposition for tenapanor is really -- it's a targeted therapy. What you're looking at is the first in a class of a drug that is going to be targeted towards the transport of -- and the absorption of phosphor through a phosphate absorption inhibitor. So this is a completely new and important way of managing serum phosphorus in these patients. And what that then means is that you, as a clinician, would consider using something that's going to block the absorption first. And then if, in fact, you need for those refractory patients or the fact that you're going to go to a birthday party or you're going to have something during a holiday and know that you're going to ingest more phosphorus as a patient that you're going to use some adjunctive binder as a result at that point. We've demonstrated in our clinical work that we make binders better that you don't need these handfuls of binder when you have tenapanor as the foundational therapy. You can add 1 or 2 tablets of whatever your favorite binder is a day versus these handfuls with every single meal. So the value proposition here is we will likely with tenapanor if we demonstrate in the real world what we see in our clinical programs, the ability to get far more patients into the normal range than we've ever been able to do for any patient on dialysis in history, not just recently, but in the history of phosphate management, we've been unable to get patients near on a consistent basis, their target levels.
Ami Fadia
analystAnd then you've talked a lot about the inability of patients to get to goal with the existing binder options that are available. How well understood is that amongst providers? And do you think you would need to educate them much with regards to what tenapanor brings to the table?
Michael Raab
executiveWell, so there's multiple audiences and there's, obviously, the providers, both from the dialysis provision, provider from a payer perspective, the educators that are nutritionists, the nurses and all the treatment team that is part of helping dialysis patients. It is clear if you look at KDOQI and KDIGO guidelines that whenever these guidelines have been written for metabolic bone disease, they have begun to move much more closely towards saying we've got to get these patients to normal. The current guidelines say, get them forge normal because it is known and multiple publications have demonstrated albeit retrospective analyses that as your serum phosphorus increases, there is a distinct increase in your relative risk of death and hospitalization that correlates to that increase in serum phosphorus. So it is well known, well understood by all of those on the treatment teams that lowering serum phosphorus in the patients is a critical objective that we've been insufficient and unable to accomplish thus far prior to what we expect we can see with tenapanor.
Ami Fadia
analystWould you expect a change in the guidelines once tenapanor becomes available?
Michael Raab
executiveWell, I think we're going to work with the organizations that publish these guidelines, and it's obviously going to be based on data, right? So if you think back, as we've spoken many times, we have already done Phase IV trials. We're not yet approved. But our concept in this was your approvable trials, your 2 pivotal trials that you submit your NDA for are insufficient to give a clinician the road map and the information they need to make the decisions to properly provide and treat their patients. So we've got a variety of different studies that we've done that go, for example, to amplify for those refractory patients who are compliant for taking massive numbers of binder pills that you could add tenapanor to those refractory patients and get 50% of those patients to normal. That's not something that we've seen before, and we saw week of the trial. We then looked at normalize as the extension of the PHREEDOM study as a Phase IV. And in normalize, we see that like our Japanese partners, KKC, demonstrated, you can significantly down-titrate binder utilization to again that 1, 2 or 3 tablets per day with tenapanor as foundational therapy and get a huge percentage of your patients, the majority of patients into the normal range. And then we've got optimized that we have started as another Phase IV, where what we're going to do there is look at incident patients, prevalent patients, switch cold turkey, so automatically switch to tenapanor alone, down-titrate your binders and add tenapanor. So you, as a clinician, would know all the options available to you in order to make a switch from the standard legacy binder therapies to tenapanor.
Ami Fadia
analystMaybe this is a good time to ask you about how the FDA review is coming along and your confidence level in a timely approval, especially considering that at least in the last couple of months, some companies saw a delay due to COVID. Do you worry about that at all?
Michael Raab
executiveYes. I mean we always worry because you don't know until you know. And I think we've got confidence in this, though, because remember that this is -- tenapanor has already been approved for another indication. So this NDA is what the FDA has already seen. And in fact, cardiorenal division consulted the GI division for the approval of IBSRELA for IBS-C. Now IBSRELA is sitting on the shelf, but the benefit of that process we went through, both with the inspections that we went through as well as cardiorenal having seen a good portion of this package gives us confidence the PDUFA date of April 29 is not something that's at massive risk. All the interactions that we've had thus far with the agency are standard ones that you have throughout the process of requests that they have for data or clarifications. But there's been nothing [ unpoured ] and anything that causes us concern. But you don't...
Ami Fadia
analystYes, of course. And you don't expect any inspections, right?
Michael Raab
executiveAt this stage, no, we wouldn't. But I think we're realistic that post-approval, all those sorts of things are likely to happen at some point. Now our contract manufacturers are well-known international and domestic manufacturers that have whatever we've been inspected for a lots of other drugs besides ours. So that is of less concern for us as well.
Ami Fadia
analystFun. So as we think about the launch, what would be some of the metrics that you would be sort of evaluating the launch again? Then how should we be tracking that?
Michael Raab
executiveSure. I mean prescriptions, obviously, are the most important that you're going to be looking at. And we aren't going to block those. Those are things that you're going to see and everyone is going to be able to see. I think as we work through the launch -- this is a stub year. We will be put through our paces by the payers. We expect that we're going to be a specialty drug, not in any preferred tier. And our patients and the physicians will be put through the prior auth process. We will have in place ArdelyxAssist, which is -- will be our patient assistance program to make sure that we help patients get through the put out there. So I don't think we're going to have anything that's different than any other launch of a novel drug like this, but we're putting in place all the systems and processes and programs to facilitate that. What of that we hear with you during our calls, I think is something that we're still working through that at least give you as much perspective as you can on the calendars that we're facing the opportunities that we see and the success that we're having.
Ami Fadia
analystWhen should we start to see a ramp in revenues? I understand that at least initially, you will be supporting patients through a transition or through an add-on of tenapanor on top of whatever treatment they would be on. And while you're also working through the negotiations with payers, what's the time frame that we should be thinking about for getting a substantial amount of coverage for the patient population?
Michael Raab
executiveSure. Well, they will be covered. It's just that they're going to have to go through prior auth, right? I mean so it's not that there's not going to be coverage. I think that's an important distinction is our patients who you as a physician say that I, as a patient require it, I can get it, but it may be hurdles that I need to go through. So it won't necessarily be only add-ons. We're going to try to because we think it's appropriate in the clinical data to demonstrate this is appropriate for any patient that has hyperphosphatemia. So we will be going through all that work with the providers, the physicians and the patients to do that. We will be put through our paces by payers, as you point out. And we will cthe demand. And the prior authorization process is evidence of demand for the payers. So what we will see over the next stub year of '21, I wouldn't anticipate there's going to be a whole lot of change in simply doing prior auths. But you'll see in '22 that we begin the contracting process with payers and PBMs. And I would anticipate by the end of '22, we're in a far more steady-state situation where we would have most of all that in place.
Ami Fadia
analystGot it. What type of a prior auth requirements would you anticipate?
Michael Raab
executiveWell, you're curious, right? I mean step edits would be an interesting way to think about it. Well, most patients have been on one or multiple binders and have failed. So does that mean that they're going to step through a binder again? Those are the kinds of discussions that we'll be having with payers because they've been stepping through binders again and again and again that aren't working, but they had nothing substantive to step to, which, in my mind, would be tenapanor. So we think that the experience that the patients were currently having will give us an awful lot of opportunity as we go through the prior auth process. We could use those data to help them get approved for tenapanor.
Ami Fadia
analystCan you talk about the commercial development time line for tenapanor in Japan, China, Canada?
Michael Raab
executiveSure. So we've got, in Canada, Knight Pharmaceuticals. It has the rights for both IBS-C and hyperphosphatemia. The IBS-C launch in Canada is imminent. And once we get approval for hypophosphatemia, they'll take our NDA and format it for the Canadian authorities for extensive approval. Same thing that Fosun has done in China for IBS-C, they'll do the same thing for hyperphosphatemia. There would be likely some bridging studies that need to be done in China to fulfill some obligations that the Chinese FDA would require, but pretty straightforward for them to accomplish that there. For Japan, our partner, KKC, has done phenomenal work both in clinical development, market assessment and understanding the role that tenapanor can play in Japan. And last year, by demonstrating in abstracts that they did at ERA-EDTA as well as ASN, 3 separate Phase II programs that they published and presented in those clinical meetings. And then we expect that we would move in -- so they would move into the late-stage Phase III programs this year and into next year, getting ready to finalize and then prepare for approval there. So very excited about what KKC and all of our partners are doing. And that then leaves Europe and other rest of world territories where once we have this NDA under our belt, we will be going back to the EMA for advice to look at what the appropriate approach is to take there in Europe and in the U.K., where traditionally with binders, they have requested or require a noninferiority study. We may take an approach where we look at the additive benefits looking at binders as adjunctive use, demonstrating that you can get a far larger number of patients to the normal range as compared to what historically we've been able to do with binders. So that strategy is coming together and something that we will pursue much more here in the United States.
Ami Fadia
analystYes. What's the latest thinking from the current administration in your view in terms of timing of inclusion of these drugs into the dialysis bundle? What are you watching in terms of when we might get? Any updates on that front?
Michael Raab
executiveSo this is the question, right, in terms of what is the bundle impact on the management of phosphorus through whether it binders or tenapanor, which are oral-only medications. I'll note that the history of getting into the bundle has -- any drug has been preceded by an IV form of that drug. The most recent example Tarceva, cinacalcet, where cinacalcet was one of the oral-onlys excluded from the bundle before Tarceva's approval and that TDAPA process that they then went through to bring both of those drugs into the bundled payment system after an increase in the base rate as a result of the TDAPA process. Oral-only is like binders. We'll never have an IV or infusible form. Tenapanor will never have an IV or infusible form because of the mechanisms of how they function. So that precedent of having an IV is not something that is foreseeable to follow the same path that everyone else has. So there are policy question here -- questions here that we will work with and are working with CMS. And there are legislative approaches where we've spoken before about how that can has been kicked down the road on the oral-only exclusion because this ends up being a pay for in the federal budgeting process that allows the exclusion or the continued exclusion to pay for other things that are suggested in the federal budget. This happens on an annual basis, the prospective payment system is something that is published annually by CMS. And there's a comment period that industry and providers get for a period of time before it is effectively released before the end of the previous year, so it can be enacted for the subsequent year. So the [ paying ] administration has not that much bearing on whether or not there is more or less likelihood of it given the examples of both the policy and the legislative issues that we will work with that I just described.
Ami Fadia
analystOkay. And maybe if you could sort of talk about how you would think about the market. You've previously talked about a potential impact on pricing, if you were to be brought -- if tenapanor were to be brought into the bundle, but it opens up access for a lot more volume of patients. How should we be thinking about the pushes and pulls there? And I think a key question is what is the sustainability of tenapanor revenues beyond that bundling event?
Michael Raab
executiveSure. No, in a completely appropriate question, right? I mean that has been the vexing issue as people look at the fear of the looming specter of the bundle. The way I've reconciled this is, if you look at right now, 62% of patients are Medicare Part D, as in dog, right? So they're the oral-only -- they are the oral benefit under Medicare. Half of those patients are dual-eligibles, meaning that they have -- they don't have an affordability issue as they're paying a relatively less consequence co-pay of $9, $10 or so for a prescription. The other half of that 62% are those patients who are Medicare Part D only beneficiaries who have chosen not to elect a benefit. So they cannot afford if they're D, they're going straight into the donut hole easily in the first quarter and never get out of the donut hole because you need thousands and thousands of dollars of out-of-pocket expense before you do. And remember, these patients are on 10, 12 oral medications besides phosphate-lowering therapies. So that gets them into the donut hole very quickly. So for us, those patients who have a patient assistance program, where if they meet the financial requirements, they're going to get free drug. So that's going to be a critically differentiated part of how we approach the market because our cost of goods are very appealing low single-digit small molecule COGS. if the bundle were to occur, every single one of those patients that it would be free becomes a paying patient. That is really the fundamental thing for people to recognize is we are going to have a benevolent free drug program. With the bundle, every one of those patients becomes a paying patient and everyone is incrementally profitable for the company. You then continue to have the commercial patients that are going to be at the commercial price. Those don't go away in the bundled scenario as well as a number of other sectors or segments of the patient population. So in our analysis, it's not at any price, but it's at prices that are comparable to what you've seen other drugs go into the bundle for that you see that this continues to be a growing and important business. So we prefer to be out of the bundle for lots of different reasons, but it's not the looming specter that I think people have considered it to be at least by our analysis.
Ami Fadia
analystThat's very helpful. Just quickly on the IBS-C indication. Any change in thinking with regards to whether things have changed in the marketplace to reconsider sort of more actively evaluating, monetizing the assets?
Michael Raab
executiveYes. So honestly, for now, we're mining our knitting on hyperphosphatemia. There is a massive amount of work is going to get prepared for launch. But that said, this is a drug that can help an awful lot of people with IBS-C. Is the pendulum swinging away from only gene therapy rare genetic disease or those sorts of things? It's beginning to, but I'm not sure it's sufficient at this point for us to put an awful lot of effort into that. So for the time being, IBSRELA sits on the golf, hoping and expecting that those dynamics in the market do shift and that this gets out to the patients who deserve it.
Ami Fadia
analystI want to talk a little bit about the 2 early-stage pipeline assets that you have, the RDX013 and 020. Maybe if you can help us understand why you chose to go after the 2 indications with this? What sort of the initial proof of concept that got you excited about it? I think that would be helpful.
Michael Raab
executiveSure. So very simply, we're trying to do for potassium what we're doing with phosphorus, right? Taking a lot of binders is hard and a bunch of us come from the history Renvela and Renagel and the challenges of having patients take the binders to accomplish what the binders are trying to do. Our understanding the biology of the GI, which got us to tenapanor, made us ask the question, can we do the same for potassium? And we have. Now this is not blocking absorption. This is a secretive. So what we do with 13 is cause the secretion through the BK channel of potassium into the colon, and that is then excreted in the feces. We demonstrated that in our Phase I healthy volunteer study, where like we've done with tenapanor, if you see an in fecal excretion of a target, you could get then ultimately in clinical settings the benefit that you would anticipate, which is why we're moving into the Phase II program that has started now that we're moving into for 013. And we would expect to be able to give in the near future on the progress we've made in the Phase II. For 020, same thing. There are biological processes in the GI that you can harness to give you the ability to manage asset-based balance. So what we've seen in early studies, these are pre-lead studies and animal studies that we may very well have that with the 020 program. And again, to move -- to have a small molecule approach to supplant or to have a drug because no drug's approved for the management of metabolic acidosis but were the binders to get approved for that to supplant those or make them better or to -- if those don't make it to market, to have a small molecule approach that would work.
Ami Fadia
analystUnderstood. When might we see the next set of data for these 2 products?
Michael Raab
executiveSo COVID has been -- has had an impact on enrollment for our 013 program. We didn't experience that with hyperphosphatemia. But just given the nature of the patients with hyperkalemia, that is something that is -- I'm not being coy intentionally, but once we get a sense of how rapidly we can enroll, I would expect that in -- before the middle of the year, we would have something that we could share on that. 020, this is early research, and we'll wait and see if we get the molecules that we want that would take it to the next stage.
Ami Fadia
analystGot it. Okay. I know we're ending up to the -- coming to the end of the time. Maybe if you could just sort of remind everyone of the current cash position and burn as you think about ramping the activities heading into the approval and launch.
Michael Raab
executiveYes. So we ended the third quarter with about $185 million of cash. And what we've guided to is that gets us into early '22 past launch. Obviously, we're going to need additional capital. And we were burning with those numbers roughly $20 million per quarter. I don't see a huge change in that even with the ramp with commercialization expense. So I think we're going to be in generally similar position. We will obviously need additional capital, but what we've said is that we're going to be very thoughtful about the way we do this. We're going to look at royalty deals and other approaches, and it's going to be a mix of things, I think, ultimately, that does the best to kind of balance solution, yet making sure that our balance sheet is strong enough to accomplish what we want to.
Ami Fadia
analystOkay. All right. Looks like we are almost out of time. So maybe this is a good time for me to say thank you for taking the time, and wish you all the best.
Michael Raab
executiveThank you so much, Ami. Look forward to keeping you updated on our progress in couple of months ahead.
Ami Fadia
analystSounds good. Thank you. Have a good day.
Michael Raab
executiveBye-bye.
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