Arvinas, Inc. (ARVN) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

October 3, 2022

NASDAQ US Health Care conference_presentation 34 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#1

Okay. Great. Good morning, everybody. Sorry, I had some technical difficulties and hopefully, we won't lose audio during the presentation. So thanks for joining us. I'm Tazeen Ahmad. I'm one of the senior biotech analysts here at BofA. It is my pleasure to be spending the next few minutes with Arvinas and joining us from Arvinas this morning is Randy Teel. So Randy, good morning. How are you?

Randy Teel

executive
#2

Good morning, Tazeen. Thank you for having us.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#3

Of course. So maybe just do a quick overview of the company, if you could. I think most of us are familiar, but just give us a sense of what the platform is and some of the advances that the company has made over the last year, there's been a few. And then we can go into more detail about some of the things to look forward to.

Randy Teel

executive
#4

Absolutely. And I, of course, have Ron Peck, our CMO, on as well, who will handle a lot of the heavy lifting when it comes to the clinical trial starts and ongoing data with respect there. But yes, thank you again for having us, Tazeen. So Arvinas was founded back in 2013 coming out of IP from Craig Crews at Yale University and it's fun to think about that 9 years later. I think we could probably come up with 40 or 50 names of protein degrader companies off the top of our heads that are better [ suppose the first ] in the space and we're proud to be where we are. So we're largely focused in oncology neuroscience. The 3 programs that we have in the clinic right now, one for estrogen receptor in breast cancer and two, for prostate cancer that target the engine preceptor, but we've also got some neuroscience programs coming on as well, at least one of which will have a name we expect before the end of 2023. And in terms of the platform, I think we're differentiated in a couple of ways. I think first is really around productivity, what we've created, which is those programs we have in the clinic, at least two of them, we consider to have proof of concept of showing some initial Phase I efficacy and tolerability and excited to be where we are and both of the programs that are out front, 471 breast cancer and bavdegalutamide or ARV-110 in prostate cancer, who will be in Phase III pivotal trials by the end of next year. So the 471 [will continue] starting by the end of this year. One is monotherapy and one in combination with Ibrance or palbociclib and ARV-110 in the Phase III study by the end of next year. So I think getting to that point, some people are quite proud of it. And then when it comes to the platform itself, we feel very confident that the strides we've made in ligand screening, progress with identifying and leveraging new E3 ligases, ability to predict and model trimer formation, building a drug like properties, we're investing to make sure we stay out front. Maybe before we pass over to Ron for some more detailed questions, I can go through what's coming up for the company. I just mentioned for ARV-471, that we'll plan to start two pivotal studies by the end of the year. In addition to that, we also plan to be or have already put in [indiscernible] the [neoadjuvant] space in combination with everolimus and an umbrella trial with our partners at Pfizer assessing some other combination agents with 471 and then we'll have data by the end of the year as well. So that's data from our Phase II, which we call VERITAC that will be coming up by the end of the year. And then on the prostate cancer side, it will actually be the second antigen receptor program, ARV-766, that we expect to share data by the end of the year for the Phase I escalation and we think we'll start its Phase II by the end of the year. So a whole lot coming up in a [couple months].

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#5

Right. Okay. So a question that we get all the time from investors still is your partnership with Pfizer. And 471 in particular, how did that come about? There are a lot of now protein degrader companies, both private and public. And I think that people want to read the tea leaves as to what Pfizer may or may not have seen. At this point, are we correct in assuming that whatever they saw is already in the public realm? And why did you think that Pfizer would be the best partner here going forward?

Randy Teel

executive
#6

Yes. So we initiated those conversations back in the wake of our data around San Antonio in 2020. So in December is when we showed the first Phase I data for ARV-471. And at that point, it really gave us the confidence that based on what we had seen at that point that we could really aim to try to make ARV-471, the endocrine therapy, ultimately across the backbone of care [indiscernible]. And so that really opened our eyes to the potential, right? And we're starting with that Phase I and the Phase II in very late line refractory patients. But ultimately, we would like to move earlier to first line, likely in combination and even into the adjuvant space, which is a pretty large unmet need. And if you could get an endocrine therapy like an ER degrader into that space, I think it would have a lot of potential. And so really, we -- what we were looking for in partnership with Pfizer was we felt pretty good coming out of it in 2020. We had just done a capital raise as well. But what we really were interested in was the ability of a partner to accelerate and broaden that development. So give us the confidence and capability to move earlier into first line, ultimately into adjuvant and [indiscernible] process there and Pfizer ultimately turned out to be a great partner and has been for the past almost 1.5 years. Obviously, [aligned] in breast cancer, but that's really what the driver was -- run and accelerate the program.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#7

Okay. Now -- so we think it makes sense to start on the refractory patient population, but how long do you think it will be before you're able to kind of move up in the lines of therapy? And how should we think about these -- the percentage of patients who have ER-independent disease in second line and higher? And how does that influence how you think about the opportunity in the earlier lines of therapy?

Randy Teel

executive
#8

Well, why don't I -- I'll talk for 10 seconds and pass to the CMO. Yes, so by the end of the year, we'll start the trial in earlier metastatic breast cancer, too. But beyond that, Ron would be best equipped to...

Ronald Peck

executive
#9

Yes. So -- thank you for including us. So as Randy said, we are going to be starting two Phase III studies imminently. So the first in a later line, where we've seen our initial data, and we've been very excited about what we've been seeing in that setting. And then second would be in combination with Ibrance in the frontline setting. So the intent is that we would be starting these 2 studies in parallel, and that gets to the question of how soon will we move into the earlier line. We'd like to get into the earlier line as soon as we can. There's even a bigger opportunity that we have talked about since the partnership with Pfizer and that is adjuvant therapy. So we haven't provided any specific guidance on when we would be interested in going in that direction. But certainly, one step in that direction is that we will be starting before the end of this year in neoadjuvant proof-of-concept study in that earlier setting, really more just to get some data in this population. And if nothing else, it provides more momentum amongst investigators to be able to get the interest in doing a large adjuvant study. We also are very interested in looking at opportunities further down the line to build out a robust lifecycle program and that comes into the way of starting to test newer combinations. So we are initiating a trial with everolimus, which is a targeted therapy that has been used in conjunction with endocrine therapy, has been approved about 10 years ago. So we are initiating a Phase Ib study this quarter. So that's already on clinicaltrials.gov. And then we have another trial that was just posted as well with Pfizer, which is referred to as the umbrella study, which is essentially a -- we'll call it an incubator for multiple combinations that could position us for a very robust lifecycle program with the intent that 471 would be the drug of choice or the backbone of choice for all patients with ER+ breast cancer. And that trial was just posted starting with the first combination of abemaciclib.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#10

Okay. And as far as designing these studies goes, how have you been interacting with Pfizer? Are they in charge of it? Or are they seeking your input?

Ronald Peck

executive
#11

So before we -- before we had the agreement signed, sealed and delivered, one of the metaphors that we had used in discussions with our partners was the concept of a co-piloted arrangement, which means that this is, aside from the 50-50 economics of the deal, this is truly both teams working together and in conjunction. We have a very experienced clinical team. A lot of us have spent years in big pharma and have even worked on breast cancer drugs. And a lot of us actually even have relationships with some of the folks in the past, who are on the other end of the deal with Pfizer. So this is -- and it's worked out quite well. So this is truly a codirected program.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#12

So maybe a question about safety for 471. I think you will have Phase Ib safety data coming out in the beginning part of '23. Was that delayed from what your original time lines were?

Ronald Peck

executive
#13

So we had initially guided towards the end of the year. One thing that we have been doing in general, as we've matured as a company or a clinical stage company, is move away from interim updates. I think for our early data or bavdegalutamide especially, we were -- we had multiple interims of a Phase I study and we just thought that we did not need to do that anymore. The added thing for 471 is that we've got a partner who obviously will have the same kind of mindset. So we decided that we would wait for this Phase Ib to be more mature and put the expectation out in the first half of next year. That does not, though, in any way, mean that there is a change in our strategy. We have still guided towards the end of this year for the initiation of these 2 Phase III studies. So that does not -- that should not be interpreted as anything other than just getting away from interims.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#14

And what should we expect to see on the safety profile based on what you know?

Ronald Peck

executive
#15

Well, the safety profile, it's essentially looking, of course, at the combination of palbociclib and 471 and if you just take those individual components apart, palbociclib, its main toxicity is neutropenia. There are a couple other things that don't overlap with whatever a ER-directed therapy could do. We are gratified in the safety profile that we have from Phase 1 with 471, where we had in 60 patients, no dose-limiting toxicities all the way up to 700 milligrams, very -- only, I think, one discontinuation and one dose reduction -- and overall, it's really just a profile that we've heard really good things about from the investigators. So in essence, our expectation is that we would not expect surprises. But of course, you have to do the trials to do that. So that Phase I is to see how the profile looks, make sure there's nothing unusual, untoward. And then number two is around pharmacokinetics. And so going into the trial from a PK perspective, we were not expecting essentially going into this thinking that there's a low likelihood of drug-drug interaction. And one thing I'll just bring up is that while we have not shared data, we have been just giving enough of a sort of a foreshadowing to say that thus far, we have not seen any impact on exposures for 471. We have done this because of the recent news with Sanofi discontinuing their program and their SERDs had an association with a drug-drug interaction with palbociclib resulting in lower exposure. So we felt like we needed to be preemptive to say that our drug does not have the same profile as theirs in terms of their drug being a 3A4 inducer, ours is not and we also felt the need to just kind of preempt to say that we had not been seeing the same impact on exposure. So I just wanted to kind of head that off.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#16

Okay. Yes. We have been getting a lot of questions on that as well. Let's move to the Phase II VERITAC trial for a second. What should we be expecting for the readout for the second line plus patients? What are some of the key differences maybe in your trial design or the patient population that you're enrolling here versus what we saw for Phase I?

Ronald Peck

executive
#17

Yes. So to just take one small step back for the audience. So this is our Phase II expansion. It was part of -- it was a seamless Phase I/II trial, and it was looking at 2 different doses, 500 milligrams and 200 milligrams, both of which are well within exposure ranges that we were shooting for based on preclinical data. And the trial is designed to really inform the optimal selection of a Phase III dose. It was actually designed before the FDA started to put more scrutiny on optimal dose. So we were fortunate to have done the right thing in the beginning. In terms of population, it's actually quite similar to the Phase I. The one thing that we take efforts to just orient about for the trial and especially the Phase I initially was that this is a population where 100% of patients had received a prior CDK4/6 that is unlike the trials with the SERDs that have been in development in terms of Phase I data for, I think, maybe with the exception of maybe one trial. So ours is 100% [co-CDK]. That's going to also be the case for the Phase II expansion. We also do permit chemotherapy. There is a slight difference in that we have permitted up to 3 lines of chemotherapy for the frontline, which is pretty significant. And for Phase II, we limited it to one prior chemotherapy, which is essentially the same as all the other trials. So it still will be chemotherapy pretreated. So with all that taken together, what our -- what we guide in terms of what good looks like based on what we see in Phase I is, in Phase I, we saw a clinical benefit rate of 40%. That was data back at San Antonio last year. Put that into context, there's molecular profiling data that's been published to say that 2/3 of patients have ER-independent resistance once they progress through CDK. So it's important for us to orient towards that because there's a ceiling for how much -- even the miracle ER therapy could work in. So that's why we are so excited with our Phase I data. And if we can see CBR rates that are in that high 30%, 40% range, then that is a sign that we're essentially looking to max out on the benefit for those who still have ER dependency. So that piece one is CBR. And we will also have safety in all patients as well. I mentioned the safety profile from Phase I. And it's really, I think, essentially more of the same relative to safety.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#18

And when should we expect to see on that?

Ronald Peck

executive
#19

That will be San Antonio this year.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#20

Okay. Should we expect to see anything on PFS?

Ronald Peck

executive
#21

Well, what we said in the past is that our intent was not to include PFS. The data snapshot that was driving this abstract was really to focus on the primary endpoint, which is clinical benefit rate, which means that there has to be a follow-up of at least 6 months from the last patient. PFS doesn't normally mature with that sort of follow-up. So we just wanted to guide towards the primary endpoint of efficacy CBR. So -- but we will certainly intend to share the PFS once it's mature, sufficiently mature to share with the investor committee.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#22

Okay. So just to be clear, not to expect that at San Antonio? So it will be at some later point. Okay. Maybe just to go hypothetically into discussion of protein degraders in general. Now you did talk about differences in your platform versus other companies. But I think people are still trying to kind of get their heads around why Sanofi would drop the entire AMEERA program and it does, of course, theoretically have a much better compound than they do. But what are things that we can look to today to really get confident that protein degraders as a mechanism make sense, especially for the types of cancers that you are initially looking at?

Ronald Peck

executive
#23

Yes, certainly. So ER was a great place for this company to start with regard to testing this new platform. As Randy said, we've been doing this since 2013. One of the reasons was, for ER, was it was a validated target. But it was a perfect setting for PROTAC because there was already more than a proof of concept for another sort of a degrader that was out there, which is fulvestrant. So fulvestrant, very different. It doesn't degrade directly like 471, which hijacks the ubiquitin-proteasome system. So it gets in there and really manipulates the cell zone protein degradation process but works indirectly. It hits ER, changes the confirmation, downstream effect of degradation. Nonetheless, fulvestrant, which has shown ER degradation between 40% and 50% in humans, has proven to be, at least today, the most effective endocrine therapy on the market. It has a frontline indication based on superiority against aromatase inhibitor in a monotherapy trial. And so that's been the gold standard for endocrine therapy to this point. So degradation and it was through a degradation ultimate effect. 471 is in our view, as you would expect, based on its mechanism, the best degrader that's out there. So this starts with the totality of the evidence that we have in the preclinical setting. And obviously, when structures become available with the SERDs, we do need to sort of convince ourselves that this is still the case for 471. So we have synthesized a number of the SERDs that are out there. And fortunately, it's continued to support our thesis that using an agent that directly manipulates the ubiquitin-proteasome system is the best approach. So it's the best degrader. That's also -- and that sort of translates into greater potency that's -- it's the iterative mechanism, of course, from PROTACs. And that is also showing -- it's translating into our clinical data. So I already mentioned -- essentially the most resistant population, at least the data we've had at San Antonio, it's 100% post CDK4/6. But also in terms of other therapies, we also have heavily pretreated population. So we have nearly 80% of patients had prior chemotherapy, including more than half who got that chemotherapy in metastatic setting. There is literature out there that shows that prior chemotherapy really does have a negative impact on outcome even as a prognostic factor. Number two is we had nearly 80% of fulvestrant, 80% patients received prior to fulvestrant. So any way you cut it, most resistant, still getting the CBR of 40%. We also have proof of mechanism data that we believe is the best data out there in the metastatic setting. We had data from 14 patients who had paired biopsies showed ER degradation in all of them, had a mean and a median ER degradation that was better than has been reported for fulvestrant. So all told, it really reinforces the confidence that we have. And of course, it will be up to the VERITAC data to see how that is playing out.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#24

Okay. Now you listed a series of studies that are going to be starting soon. Could any of them potentially be used for registration?

Ronald Peck

executive
#25

Not these studies that we just listed. The neoadjuvant is a small noncomparative trial that's out there. Umbrella is really just starting to test new combinations. So the registrational trials are the 2 that Randy had mentioned, which is -- that we've been guiding for some time for starting before the end of the year.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#26

Okay. And do you have a sense on how long it could take to get those enrolled?

Ronald Peck

executive
#27

Yes. I would say that -- well, first of all, we haven't really put out the trial design, but you can -- normally in oncology trials, they're designed so that we can get them enrolled quickly so that then it becomes just a follow-up. So we can't really provide specific guidance. What I would say is once we are far enough along, we will provide details on that trial and can be more prepared to talk about more specifics like enrollment.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#28

Okay. Great. Now maybe let's move on to castration-resistant prostate. You did post your data, get some questions around the subgroup that you chose. So I thought it might be a good idea maybe to talk through it for a minute or 2. So the T878X/H875Y subgroup, that was the one that seemed to show the real benefit and I think people are still trying to understand why would that be such a narrowly defined benefit if even that's the right way of interpreting it? Or did it just so happen that, that was a subgroup that had the strongest signal and you still expect to see signals in other subgroups? So if you could maybe spend a minute on that.

Ronald Peck

executive
#29

Yes, certainly. I think the first place to start is to understand this population as a setting where AR-directed therapies are being tested. So when we had first presented the efficacy data for this program -- this goes back to ASCO 2020 -- and we wanted to just orient the community to say this, to our knowledge, was the most advanced population where an AR therapy was tested. And there is a lot of information out there that tells us that once you get this far out, you start to see a lot of antigen receptor independent mechanisms of resistance. A very similar story to the ER effect. There's multiple things that happen. I think the terminology is linear plasticity, there's neuroendocrine differentiation as one example. And just the emergence of a lot of drivers of AR independent resistance, whether it's p53, BRCA1 and 2, et cetera, et cetera. So it's a tough place to test a new AR degrader. Even though we knew that this could overcome some of the mechanisms of AR-dependent resistance, there's a lot of other factors that an AR drug is not going to be able to work on. Nonetheless, we started to see early on this -- this signal all the way back to this ASCO 2020 oral presentation that we had the first 2 PSA50 responses both in patients who had 878 and 875 mutations. It was not something we anticipated. It's not that bavdegalutamide is a better degrader for those mutations than it is for wild typing. In fact, aside from one mutation, which is the 702H mutation, this drug preclinically works as well on wild type as it does these common mutations like 878s and 5. But what we started to realize, and it's not just us, I think there's been this sort of -- it's been seen with a compound that Orion has in partnership with Merck, that these mutations seem to be a signal of retained AR dependency. Very much like what we didn't talk about was ESR1 mutation seems to predict a little bit more about ER dependency. Same thing for prostate cancer. So at least we're starting to see this, and it played out in Phase II, ARDENT trial, that sure enough that this population continued to benefit more and more. We in fact, designed the Phase II expansion to really test this hypothesis and it reinforced that, in fact, this is a population that benefits great in this post NHA setting, enzalutamide, abiraterone. But what we -- but the question to your point is -- how does it work in earlier settings. I will say before I get there, that this population where we still benefit is a population that we think is going to emerge as potentially a pretty important opportunity because the second these enzalutamide, abiraterone, the other 2 drugs in this class are now firmly established in an earlier population castrate sensitive. So in fact, what's going to happen is patients will develop resistance much earlier in their journey. So we believe that this is an opportunity that could become more important. We have an oral therapy, and we will have a blood-based diagnostic working with foundation. So it becomes easier to identify the patients. We will -- and just to finish off is that there is, we think, a bigger opportunity in the pre-enzalutamide, abiraterone population, meaning which right now looks to be the castrate sensitive setting. We -- there were some interesting findings preclinically about how this -- how bavdegalutamide looks compared to enzalutamide in cell lines. It's much more potent. And even separate from that, there's opportunities in combination that we can think of. So we do think that it will be potentially a bigger opportunity and also when we fully expect that we'll be more active in that early setting.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#30

Okay. And now I guess what was the conversation like with FDA that led you to decide that you did want to do a pivotal Phase III program for this?

Ronald Peck

executive
#31

Yes. So what we submitted to the FDA is a proposal for a pivotal Phase II trial, where patients will be selected for these mutations. Response rate as a primary end point. And we have good reason to be interested in that. There was a precedent with rucaparib in this population, getting a single arm approval. We felt that with the precision medicine approach, it made sense. What we heard from the agency as well, if this is the interest and here are the things that we'd be looking for relative to specifics around eligibility, prior therapy, patient numbers and whatnot. At the same time, we also got feedback on a confirmatory Phase III, which we had part of this package because that's part of the accelerated approval pathway. And when we took all this information back to the company, we really stepped back and said, you know what, the most efficient thing to do is to start with the Phase III. This is -- instead of doing a Part 1, Part 2, let's go with the Phase III. It provides, let's say, a more compelling data set, frankly, having a control arm, and we can also use the type of package outside the U.S. So we felt that this was ultimately the best approach for the company.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#32

Okay. A similar question to what we talked about for breast, do you think that this trial should enroll quickly? Do you have like a rough sense of when we should expect to start to see data here?

Ronald Peck

executive
#33

Yes. So we haven't provided any details on that trial. We'll certainly do that once we're far enough along. And then I think it's probably the same answer. What I will say though, at least is one thing that we're -- whenever you get into a precision medicine approach, we do a lot of homework, due diligence to really convince ourselves that there is a feasibility. So -- and so us looking into this is really doing that. And we feel that we will be able to find a way to complete this. The good part of this is that it's a population where the benefit should be -- we have confidence in the benefit, so we don't need to design a very large study. So certainly, when -- by the time that we're ready to disclose the trial design, we will certainly provide more specifics about expectations on enrollment.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#34

Okay. Got it. So maybe in the couple minutes or so that we have left, both Ron and Randy, I was curious about the rest of your pipeline. So I think people seem to be razor-focused, as well they should be, these are the most advanced indications that you have. But really if we think about the company as a platform, like what direction should we be expecting you guys to go in over the next 12 to 18 months, let's say?

Randy Teel

executive
#35

Yes. I think as we look ahead to having conversations in the next year, 12 to 18 months, like you said, it will be quite a bit broad, so we've talked about having 4 INDs through the end of 2023, at least one of which in neuroscience. So that's something we've talked about for a long time. We think that the promise -- where the really big value and capability for PROTAC is probably first in the undruggable space, what is historically we've been unable as an industry to wedge an inhibitor and then [indiscernible] to inhibit but with a PROTAC not needed by [indiscernible], we think that will consume the undruggable space, and you will certainly see some of that coming out as well as in neuroscience. So in neuroscience, we had some positive news as an industry last week for sure. But historically, having a modality like a PROTAC that might even be able to be orally delivered, get into the brain, not just into the brain, but into the cells of the brain and degrade pathologic proteins before they ever become a problem and form plaques and things like that could be pretty transformation. So we'll start to see some of that. We're aiming at some of the bigger, more obvious indications, the Alzheimer's and the Parkinson's but also thinking about narrower pure play [telopothies], things like that.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#36

Right. Okay. And yes, maybe just on Alzheimer's, is that something that you would still want to pursue, given the positive data set for biogenesis you said was great for patients and expectations that some of the other large companies will be releasing some important Alzheimer's data sets in the near term?

Randy Teel

executive
#37

Yes, absolutely. I'm certain there's plenty of room there for improvement. [indiscernible]

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#38

Okay. Perfect. With that, we're out of time this morning. So thanks so much, guys. It's good to see you virtually. We hope to see you in person sometime soon. We look forward to the update at San Antonio [indiscernible], then hope to talk to you right afterwards.

Ronald Peck

executive
#39

Absolutely. Nice to speak with you.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#40

Have a good rest [indiscernible] [guys.] Thanks. Bye-bye.

Randy Teel

executive
#41

Thank you.

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