Astellas Pharma Inc. (4503) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

February 21, 2024

Tokyo Stock Exchange JP Health Care Pharmaceuticals special 93 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Hiromitsu "Hiro" Ikeda

executive
#1

Thank you very much for joining Sustainability Meeting 2023 by Astellas out of your very busy schedule. I am Ikeda, Chief Communications and IR Officer. Very nice to meet you. Today's session, including the Q&A session, will be held with simultaneous interpretation in Japanese and English. We cannot guarantee the accuracy of interpretation. Thank you for your understanding. You can set the language from the menu on the Zoom webinar screen. If you choose original, you can listen the original audio without simultaneous interpretation. Today's presentation material is posted on our website. This material or our presentation by representatives of the company and answers and statements by representatives of the company in the Q&A session includes forward-looking statements based on assumptions and beliefs in light of the information currently available to management and subject to significant risks and uncertainties. Actual financial results may differ materially depending on a number of factors. They contain information on pharmaceutical, including compounds under development. But this information is not intended to make any representations or advertisements regarding the efficacy or effectiveness of these preparations. Let me introduce today's attendees: Naoki Okamura, Representative Director, President and CEO; Katsuyoshi Sugita, Representative Director, Executive Vice President, Chief People Officer and Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer; Shingo Iino, Head of Sustainability; Takashi Tanaka, Outside Director, Chair of Nomination Committee and Compensation Committee; and Rie Akiyama, Outside Director, Audit and Supervisory Committee member. So we are joined by these 5 speakers. Now over to you, Okamura-san.

Naoki Okamura

executive
#2

Hello, everyone. I'm Naoki Okamura from Astellas Pharma Inc. Thank you very much for joining our sustainability meeting out of your very busy schedule today. This is a cautionary statement regarding forward-looking information. As this was explained by Ikeda earlier, I'm not going to read this page. In the previous 2 meetings, we introduced initiatives and their progress. In this third meeting today, we are going to focus on the achievements and the outcome of our initiatives. Before going into the main topic, let me talk about sustainability from my perspective and Astellas' sustainability. Between 2012 and 2014, I was transferred to London. I was in charge of the strategy of the organization responsible for Europe, Africa and the Middle East. And the corporate communications, corporate social responsibilities, CSR, was covered by the department. CSR at that time was focusing on the social contribution activities, not relevant directly to the core business. But I thought that our knowledge and capability should be leveraged, and we should incorporate CSR activities directly into Astellas' business activities, not just providing funding. In countries where we don't have direct businesses or in urology-related diseases we are not selling products, the Action on Fistula project was initiated in 2014 in Kenya. In 2014, the budget was already developed, so we couldn't apply for a new budget. So within the existing budget, we decided to generate funding and savings. And if there is such room, we were told to reduce the budget. We had to fight. From the employees in the organization, they can enhance the efficiency of their business then we can save money and that will help the Kenyan women, and that concept was well received. As for the obstetric fistula, it's a hole between the vagina, rectum or bladder. Because of the social and cultural background, it's often seen in Africa women may get married at the young age. And if the young and -- if the body is immature, without the support from doctors and others, if the labor is going to be taking place for a long time, there can be necrosis in the fetus, which will create a hole. There's going to be fecal incontinence. So it's not seen well by the society and they may have to live their life in isolation even from their family members. But fistula can be closed by surgery, then the conditions can be cured completely and they can return to their usual life. But in society, people do not know that it can be treated and such surgeons are in shortage. So we wondered whether we can do something about it. In the United States, Fistula Foundation is providing support for fistula -- obstetric fistula. Physicians and hospital networks were established, and fistula surgeons are to be developed continuously through a program. Patients do not come forward by themselves, so we have to identify patients by ourselves. As I mentioned before, this is a condition hated by the society at large. So we have to ensure disease awareness activities in the community, and they may not be able to reintegrate into society after surgery. So we can provide employment support. And patients are living far away from their family members, so we decided to establish a support group to provide financial and employment assistance and psychological care for patients to -- reintegrating into society. Initially, we are aiming for 1,200 surgery in 3 years. It was extended and we were engaged for 6 years in total. By the end of the project, treatment was provided to 6,223 patients, much higher compared to the initial expectation. And this became a life-changing project for women in Kenya in the end. I came back to Tokyo in July 2014. Before that, I went to Kenya and I had a chance to talk with the patients. I met women at the vocation training facility to reintegrate into society. I still remember their smiles. Next page, please. Slide 5 is about sustainability from Astellas' perspective. In order to turn innovative science into value for patients, Astellas is aiming to create innovation continuously and have a positive impact on society and business. In the past, we focused on the Rx business in selected therapeutic categories, and we tried to follow on what was created by others and took the best-in-class approach. At that time, CSR was outside of the business. There was a concept that we shouldn't do anything directly related to the business. But Astellas' core business has evolved significantly since. As you know, at present, we have clearly defined value and have expanded the business to broader health care solutions. We are transforming to be a cutting-edge, value-driven life science innovator. Right now, unlike CSR, sustainability overlaps with our core business and we think that should be the case. If we can contribute to sustainable societies through our core business of life science, we can gain the trust and support from society and stakeholders, which will also make Astellas' business sustainable as well. Through our core business, sustainability is improved for both society and our business, generating a virtuous cycle. That's the definition of Astellas' sustainability. Next page. Slide 6. As an example of our contribution to more sustainable society through our core business, I'd like to explain the social impact of VEOZAH we launched this year. VEOZAH is indicated for moderate to severe VMS associated with menopause. This is also called hot flashes and is one of the most common menopausal symptoms that women experience. On average, women experience 17 hot flashes per week and 11 night sweats per week, according to the data. Many menopausal women are faced with sleep-related issues. The most severe VMS symptoms are the most sleep is affected and the more data activities and work productivity are impaired. Many women remain untreated. More than 70% of women in the United States go untreated for VMS according to some data. For these unmet medical needs, Astellas can provide diverse values of VEOZAH. This is the world's first nonhormonal NK3 receptor antagonist. There is a scientific and clinical value to achieve sustained reductions in frequency and severity of VMS. Financial value is higher work productivity. And psychological value due to improved awareness and understanding of VMS and its treatment. Women will find it easier to seek advice from HCPs and people around them. VEOZAH and innovative treatment contributes to improving women's QOL and increasing work productivity by freeing them from the burden caused by moderate to severe VMS. Next, Slide 7. This is the agenda for today. Shingo Iino, Vice President, Head of Sustainability, will present on the progress of our initiatives to address sustainability issues. Next, Katsuyoshi Sugita, EVP, Chief People Officer and Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer, will explain our HR strategy, the outcome or penetration of organizational health goals, OHG, and the current status of succession planning, et cetera. Mr. Takashi Tanaka, an Outside Director, will talk about CEO succession planning. We will have time for Q&A after the presentations. So I'd like to hand over to the first presenter, Iino. Iino-san, please.

Shingo Iino

executive
#3

Good morning, everyone. I'm Shingo Iino, Vice President, Head of Sustainability. I'm going to explain our initiatives for evolving sustainability. Next page, please. Let's look back on the direction for our initiatives for evolving sustainability over the last 3 years. First, in FY 2021, we updated the Materiality Matrix. We identified 19 key issues and then prioritized the 9 material issues -- materiality from the key issues. In FY 2022, we focused on the 9 most important issues and key environmental issues highly required by society, developed the 7 medium-term priorities for Astellas and our 7 commitments and then positioned this as the Sustainability Direction. In FY 2023, we defined about 50 indicators to measure progress on medium-term priorities and established a mechanism to reflect them in annual plans as company-wide initiatives. Due to the limited time, it's difficult to explain all items. So today, I will take up, first, Access to Health; secondly, strengthening business continuity plan or BCP for geopolitical risks and natural disasters; and thirdly, initiatives for environmental sustainability. I will explain the progress in detail. You can find the performance of our initiatives to address the 7 medium-term priorities in the appendix on Page 28 and 29 in detail. We are also planning to post information on our corporate website. Please turn to Page 10. First, about Access to Health. I will explain the results of our initiatives for enhancing access in 3 categories, like the previous sustainability meeting. First, the results of number one, access through Astellas core business, shown in the upper left of the diagram. We were able to deliver value to about 160 million patients prescribed with Astellas products in 103 countries by the first half of FY 2023 according to estimation. Next, number two, enhancing availability of Astellas products shown in the left bottom. This is the number of patients we supported with various access programs throughout the entire life cycle to whom we cannot deliver a product through usual prescription by physicians. With the pharmaceutical access strategy, we were able to impact more than 1,380 patients in total from the development stage. This is up by about 80% from 780 in FY 2022. Moving on to the right side, the third category is supporting third-party ATH activities and foundations for enhancing Access to Health. As is shown here, a variety of programs are being implemented. The thinking behind Astellas' access strategy is not providing funds to external parties and then leaving everything up to them. But rather, in principle, we focus on areas where Astellas knowledge and capabilities can be leveraged while our employees can also work hard and contribute to the resolution of social issues together with our partners. We will continue to promote activities with external partners, who can empathize with Astellas philosophy. Today, I'm highlighting 2 initiatives are in the red box with progress in particular. The first one is a program aiming to provide a new pediatric treatment option to about 12 million preschool-aged children suffering from schistosomiasis. The second one is a program to improve health literacy of patients in Brazil. We have started providing services since December last year, and more than 1,000 people are already using this program. I will explain the details on the next page. First, the development of pediatric treatment option for schistosomiasis, one of the neglected tropical diseases. Schistosomiasis is a parasite disease mostly seen in developing nations with a great impact on the economy and the health of people living in endemic areas. Mobility is particularly high among children. If untreated, it would trigger anemia, developmental failure (sic) [ development of fever ], impaired learning ability and chronic organ inflammations and it can be life-threatening. Praziquantel is a standard of care for schistosomiasis for school-aged children and adults. On the other hand, the tablet size is thick and the drug tastes bitter, so it's not suitable as a treatment for younger children. Many preschool-aged children are unable to receive public health care. Against this backdrop, Astellas, as a founding member of the Pediatric Praziquantel Consortium, has contributed to the development of a pediatric formulation since 2012. Specifically, small-sized water-soluble tablet not affected by the climate was developed. Taste was also improved so that younger children can take the drug. Astellas played an extremely important role. In December last year, EMA's CHMP adopted a positive scientific opinion for potential new pediatric treatment option of schistosomiasis. The consortium achieved a major milestone in clinical development. In parallel, with the review by the regulatory authority, the consortium's implementation research is ongoing right now. Preparation is underway to introduce the medicine in the first endemic country in Africa. We will continue to work hard as a consortium member so that we can deliver the treatment to patients as soon as possible. The second one is a program in Brazil. Astellas has collaborated with a local tech start-up company called Pixit to develop Astellas Healthcare E-city. On this virtual platform, we have started providing educational content on the early diagnosis and prevention of gastric cancer since December last year, partnering with medical specialists in the region. In Brazil, early treatment intervention through improved health literacy and rectifying the disparity between urban and rural areas are the key to enhancing access to health. . So we initiated the development of platform so that anyone with an Internet connection can access highly reliable information anytime. The information that can be accessed covers the patient journey broadly, such as prevention, awareness and early diagnosis. We are aiming to enhance users' health literacy, realize early disease diagnosis, reduce health care costs and improve health conditions. Please watch a video for about a minute, so that you can get a sense of E-city. [Presentation]

Shingo Iino

executive
#4

As you saw in the video, this is an innovative program leveraging digital technologies in sustainability activities. We believe this is one example of a fusion between digital transformation and sustainability transformation. Today, I talked about 2 cases as an example. We will continue to leverage Astellas' technologies and strengths and make efforts to enhance Access to Health through collaboration with those who empathize with Astellas' philosophy. Next, on Page 13, I will explain our initiatives for strengthening BCP for geopolitical risks and natural disasters. Astellas is reinforcing BCP to address unpredictable events, such as regional conflicts, natural disasters, infectious disease pandemics in order to be ready for supply chain disruption, city lockdowns, raw material supply instability, energy shortages and rising energy costs. Specifically, we are implementing a supply chain management from 2 aspects: sustainable manufacturing and stable supply of products. In sustainable manufacturing, we are working to secure a stable sourcing of raw materials. We identified raw and other materials that may become difficult to sold due to growing geopolitical risks. We are securing substitutes and continuing to accumulate inventories proactively. Also to ensure a stable supply of product, we are responding to supply chain risks as well. With 8 manufacturing sites and 50 distribution centers as a foundation, we have established a structure to collaborate with partners to realize seamless distribution. We are working to maintain supply by seeing alternative routes in the short term. Regarding the Noto Peninsula earthquake on January 1, there is no report of damage with immediate impact on pharmaceutical supply. Next, on Page 14, I will explain our initiatives for environmental sustainability. Astellas has set the goal to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and achieve net zero by FY 2050. The SBTi, Science Based Targets initiative approved Astellas reduction targets through 2030. We got the SBT certification. Specifically, with 1.5 degrees target on our mind, our goal is to reduce GHG emissions by 63% in Scope 1 and 2 compared to 2015 and by 37.5% in Scope 3 with well below 2 degrees target. In FY 2023, we considered concrete measures to achieve FY 2030 targets, namely, for Scope 1 + 2 reduction, we will introduce solar panel at Tsukuba Research Center and renew wind power generation facility at Kerry plant in Ireland. Also, at Yaizu Technology Center, we will promote purchase of solar power-based renewable energy from power generation companies. We will switch over to sales fleet with low environmental impact globally as well. In addition, we are discussing new initiatives with external stakeholders in parallel. As for Scope 3 emissions reduction, we will determine means of transport based on sufficient information on how the selection of transportation methods will impact CO2 emissions. In addition, we identified suppliers with a large impact on Scope 3 emissions and we are engaging with them to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions. As we disclosed information on December 28, 2023, our performance on climate change and our leadership in climate change transparency were recognized by CDP, an international nonprofit organization. Astellas was selected as an A-list company in 2023. You can find our sustainable biodiversity initiative as another environmental initiative in the appendix on Page 35 for your reference. The next topic is related to people and organization. Sugita-san, please.

Katsuyoshi Sugita

executive
#5

Hello, everyone. I am Sugita. I am in charge of Human Resources and Compliance. Very nice to meet you. I would like to explain about Astellas' people and organization. Next page, please. After having thorough discussions as to how we can realize our VISION and identifying issues, we at Astellas established organizational health goals, or OHGs, 3 years ago, which aim to trigger innovation. Since then, we have undertaken a variety of initiatives. Those initiatives have been introduced already in previous sustainability meetings as well as in our integrated reports. So today, I'd like to introduce some innovative outcomes borne out of the penetration of OHG promoted through the initiatives rather than introducing the initiatives themselves. And we are very much focusing on succession planning. Therefore, I'd like to also introduce the progress status of succession planning. Next page, please. First, let me talk about how the penetration of OHG has led to the creation of business innovation within our company. It's not just a mindset of the people, but in terms of the behavior there has been some changes that are occurring. So first, I'd like to talk about Project OASIS. This is completely voluntary efforts being made by the people of Astellas. It's bottom-up and the people of Astellas started this initiative on their own. And right now, they started in Japan but it's being extended globally. And we are aiming to promote drug discovery unique to Astellas, and this project involves top management as mentors. But not just mentors, but they are involved as sponsors because for such a project sponsors are very important. So we are promoting this project aiming for drug discovery unique to Astellas. An innovative culture is being penetrated across the company, and that is an indication of this initiative. The next one is digital innovation contest and this is led by the digital division, and it's open for DX, digital transformation ideas, across the company and many divisions take -- took part in this quite actively. And ideas were submitted, ranging from the use of digital transformation for drug discovery to the digital transformation for patient centricity. 93 ideas were submitted and we ranked those ideas, and the idea which won the gold medal award is currently tested in practice. Right now, this gold award idea is tested in pilot phase and actual business innovation is going to be promoted. That's our expectation. And lastly, if you can go to the bottom of this slide, we are doing what we call analysis of -- cost-benefit analysis for meetings. And white space, this is a term you may not be familiar with, but this means that you shouldn't be driven by tasks too much and there needs to be some leeway for everyone. That's why we want to create what we call white space. And I think it's for all the companies, not just for us. In order to create white space, we have to eliminate the number of reports or the number of meetings within the company. There are too many of them. Therefore, we decided to analyze whether the meeting is being held absolutely necessary or whether those meetings are taking too much time or whether these meetings are not involving too many people. So we focused on these aspects of the internal meetings to see what are the costs of those internal meetings and how many people are taking part and spending time for those internal meetings. We decided to analyze those parameters. So the person who set the meeting and when the person sends the meeting invitation, the person would already know how many people will come, how much time is going to be spent and this is through digital tool. So this is just the beginning. But through the digital power, we would like to increase white space as much as possible. And by having a white space, we would like to accelerate the creation of further innovation. Next page, please. So this is looking at the actual numbers in terms of the outcome of the penetration of OHG, global engagement survey. This has been conducted for several years by now and this is done globally. The response rate is quite high, and compared to other companies, I think the response rate for us is quite high. So we have 15,000 people and the score is going up by 3 notch or 5 notches, that's not an easy thing. And to the farthest left, we are from 70 to 71 to 71. This is the engagement score. Originally, we were expecting to see the increase of the score by several notches every year, but that's not been the case. But yes, it's true that we are struggling to increase the score for engagement. And I think there are several reasons for that. One is we are implementing a lot of transformation measures. That itself is a good thing. And transformation, however, entails some level of pain on the part of the people. Therefore, when it comes to the engagement survey for each year's score, sometimes that works negatively. And to the right-hand side, we have CSP2021, OHG 1, 2, 3 and we have scores for these items. For OHG 1, we have 9 items; for OHG 2, we have 9 items; and we also have 9 items for OHG 3. So in total, if you look at the average of those 9 items, these are the progress for those OHGs. As I said, improvement of 2 or 3 notches, that's not been the case for those OHG items either, but then we are seeing a steady growth of the scores by 1 or 2 notches and none has declined. So this is good. However, there are certain areas for improvement. One is white space that I touched upon already. People are too busy trying to fulfill their tasks. So there isn't much white space. And some of the divisions are very much globalized already. And so global way of work, this means that people have to work early in the morning and late at night. So it's very difficult for them to have enough time for creating innovation. And another one, action taking. When you conduct this kind of engagement survey, survey itself is not important, but after the survey is it the case that the management started to take actions to improve the situation? And action taking-wise, we are a little bit weaker compared to other items. Another one is pay for performance. We have a lot of good systems already in place. However, systems alone will not change the situation. Those systems need to be fully utilized by the managers. And with the new evaluation system, people's performance needs to be fairly evaluated. So people management needs to be improved further, I think that is what it means. But for all those items, we see the trend of improvement so I do believe that all these items are improving. So from now, I would like to talk about succession planning. Especially for senior leaders, in terms of succession planning, we really focus on 3 aspects: number one, transformational leadership; number two, result-driven; and number three, global mindset. We are in the middle of the transformation right now at Astellas. So how much leadership is there? That is a very important element we would like to see in the top management. However, delivery of the results is also very important, so we would like to see the leadership who is strong in delivering results. And we are being globalized. Therefore, if the top management says that we -- I only understand this area, but not that area, that is not a good case for the senior management. Therefore, it's very important for the leadership to have global mindset. And we need to have a One Astellas mindset and this can lead to global behaviors. And now I have 4 characteristics of Astellas. One is a completely integrated global succession planning for all the global senior positions are covered by the succession planning, that's number one. And the second, this is quite new. So we include succession candidates from outside, not just from inside. So it's both inside and outside, both. So of course, we can't capture all the candidates outside of the company. But if CxO person a looks at the position that is a subordinate position and if that person sees other people through certain conferences and see them as promising, then those people will be included as candidates for successors. So we are open to the labor market or the talent market. So that is the second characteristic of succession planning. Number three is complete free competition. So we have succession planning candidates, and just because of that, those candidates will be appointed. That's not the case. Of course, we really focus on succession planning, but based on the succession planning, when it comes to actual appointment, we have a fair selection process through interviews. And we actually conduct those interviews for division heads and above. Several CxOs meet these candidates and then discuss those candidates to see where their strengths lie and where their weakness lie. And after such a discussion take place, the actual appointment is being made and the selection is being done. And the fourth characteristic is to have right people for right positions. Every year we have the review for that. And you may think this is a matter of course, but actually one entire day is spent on this theme. All CxOs are to come to Tokyo to discuss this matter, spending the entire day. And then preliminary preparation is done with HR business partners and CxOs. So we have a thorough operation of succession planning. Next page, please. So as for the succession planning, as you can see, this is the one way of looking at the succession planning. Appointment from the list inside the succession plans, that accounts from 70% out of 100%. So 70% of the people are appointed from the succession plans. And we have different stages for succession planning. As you can see, at the bottom of the slide, we have already now, ready 1 to 2 years and ready 3 to 5 years. So we have those different stages. So logically speaking, those people in the stage of ready now should be appointed. That will be the smooth operation of succession planning, and that accounts for 81%. So how you look at this data and interpret it? Of course, there are many ways. But as I said, those people listed in the succession plans, they are not appointed automatically to the positions. We always have interviews with these candidates. And when succession plans are being prepared, some time may have elapsed already so there may be certain changes. And therefore, I do believe that this number, 81%, is quite a good number. If this number is raised further, that is great. But if it's going to become 100%, it's probably too much. And 88% of the appointment from within the company and 12% from outside, they're external hires. And the division heads are CxO minus 1, and therefore, as much as possible, we would like to have internal appointments. But if there aren't any people ready inside, then we turn to external hires. But when we have division head interviews together with internal candidates, we would like to have external candidates interviews as well and we incorporate that in a process. So we look at the level of the talent available in the market and decide the final appointments. Next page, please. So what I said right now is illustrated here in this pyramid, CxO at the top. And then we would like to appoint those people through the succession planning to the CxO positions, meaning that we need to have highest of those people who are potential CxOs early on. So if you go down this pyramid, there are many more cases of external hires. And the divisional heads and above, we look at a balance between internal hires and external hires. Going down further, we may directly hire external people with more frequency. So going to the next page. This is my last page. So our HR strategy is really in line with corporate strategy. They are not separate. It's not designed that way. So first, we have corporate strategy, CSP2021, and then issues are being identified. And in order to execute solutions towards those issues, what kind of HR strategy is needed, that is a starting point. So we have OHG penetration to trigger behavioral changes and mindset changes. We are working on that. And when it comes to succession planning, the second OHG, that is talent and leadership, and we are picking up in terms of succession planning as well. So talent and leadership, I think succession planning has a lot of impact on the talent as well as the leadership. So it's very, very important. So I introduced to you some of the success examples and areas of improvement as well. So I hope it was open enough to share those points. And we will implement measures for further improvements and make contribution to the realization of our VISION. So finally, in terms of CEO succession planning, Outside Director Tanaka would like to take the floor to explain. Tanaka-san, please.

Takashi Tanaka

executive
#6

Good morning, everyone. I am Tanaka, an Outside Director, and I serve as the Chairperson of the Nomination Committee and the Compensation Committee. Next slide, please. Today, another Outside Director, Ms. Akiyama, is here to answer your questions during the Q&A session to follow later. I was appointed as an Outside Director of Astellas in June 2021 and as Chairperson of the Nomination Committee and the Compensation Committee in June 2023. And Director Akiyama was appointed as an Outside Director in June 2023, and she serves as an Audit and Supervisory Committee member. As you know, Astellas has established a Nomination Committee as an advisory board to the Board of Directors. The role of the Nomination Committee is to discuss matters related to the appointment and dismissal of not only CEO, but also other directors and top management and to explain and make proposals to the Board as necessary. Now Astellas -- at Astellas, CEO changed from Mr. Yasukawa to Mr. Okamura in April 2023. And today, I will focus on CEO succession planning as explanation of this topic has been requested by many, and I would like to explain the structure and the deliberation process of the Nomination Committee. Next slide, please. First, about CEO succession planning. The Nomination Committee asks the executive side to list multiple candidates for the current CEO's emergency replacement and the next CEO. And based on the CEO selection criteria, the committee deliberates on the readiness and the strength of each candidate areas to be developed by the time of succession, actual development plans and the timing when the readiness is complete. The Nomination Committee, which is made up of 4 outside directors, holds highly transparent and objective discussions from a variety of perspectives, including how to select successors and the development of successor candidates in principle at least once a year. And the state of the matter is reported to the Board of Directors. Additionally, if there is any appointment or dismissal of senior members, the results of the deliberations are reported to the Board. Please refer to the process illustrated on the right. And please also refer to the corporate governance guidelines for CEO appointment criteria with the link provided on the slide. CEO is required to embody the company's management philosophy and vision through business execution and lead the sustainable improvement of corporate value. From this perspective, we have established 3 criteria for the appointment of CEO. The first one is the CEO needs to be flexible to respond to rapidly changing internal and external environment. And CEO needs to have excellent insight into the future. And the second one is to have the ability to plan, make decisions, execute amid uncertainties and to fulfill accountability for the decisions made. And the third is it has to be somebody who is attractive just as a human being, who can earn trust from Astellas Group employees and from stakeholders. In addition to these 3 criteria, we also take into consideration the business environment and the business strategy of any given time when making appointments. For reappointments, we take into consideration achievements and contributions made during the term of office. Please see Slide 26. CEO change took place in April of this fiscal year from Mr. Yasukawa to Mr. Okamura, and this is the process taken at that time. At the Nomination Committee meeting in October 2022, we received a detailed briefing on the next CEO candidate's strengths and development status from the former CEO, Mr. Yasukawa, and it took a considerable amount of time to deliberate in detail. In addition, preliminary discussions also took place regarding future appointments of directors. One interaction with Mr. Yasukawa that left an impression on me was the discussion regarding the timing of the change of CEO. To be honest, I thought the committee member would say that it was too early to change CEO since it was in the middle of CSP2021. But Mr. Yasukawa said fiscal year 2023 will be the year to go on the offensive to further accelerate growth, so it's best for our company to form a new leadership team to achieve the goals of CSP2021 and to prepare and execute strategies towards long-term growth beyond that. With such background explanation in detail, I remember that the Nomination Committee unanimously voted to propose Mr. Okamura as the new CEO to the Board of Directors with not a single person raising any objections. Subsequently, at the Nomination Committee meeting in February 2023, it was confirmed that Mr. Okamura, current CEO, is the most suitable successor and this was put to the vote by the Board. As the matter was thoroughly deliberated at the previous Nomination Committee meeting in October 2022, so there was no major discussion at this Nomination Committee meeting. As the Nomination Committee held in June 2023 after the change of CEO, in advance of deliberations on succession planning, which is usually held around autumn, the committee received an updated explanation of successor candidates from Okamura and held discussions. In addition, at the Nomination Committee in December 2023, we discussed the readiness status and the strengths of CEO successor candidates, areas that need development and their development plans. And at that time, we received detailed explanations from Mr. Okamura regarding key capabilities he wants to see in top managers, including an easy-to-understand list of Mr. Okamura's evaluation of each candidate based upon which we had thorough deliberations. I think one of the characteristics and the strengths of Astellas' succession planning is that every year, the Nomination Committee receives a detailed report on the status of each successor candidate and openly discuss the matter. The operation is extremely transparent and objective. I also have the impression that it is wonderful that the executive side has taken seriously and responded to the opinions of the Nomination Committee members and that the content of deliberations regarding succession planning has evolved and improved to suit the situation. In addition, many opportunities are provided for CEO candidates to present themselves to outside directors, including Nomination Committee members, such as by having them speak at Board meetings so that succession planning can be deliberated while knowing the persons directly. I feel that this is also one of Astellas' strengths. I'd like to point out that Astellas' Nomination Committee is already operating at a fairly high level compared to other industries. Based on this understanding, if there is anything, it would be important for us to have more opportunities in the future to see candidates for other top management positions, not just for CEO, as the Nomination Committee is to deliberate on succession planning not only for CEO, but also for other top management. That's all my explanation. In the question-and-answer session that follows, I would like to answer questions together with Ms. Akiyama from our standpoint as an outside director. Thank you very much.

Hiromitsu "Hiro" Ikeda

executive
#7

That's all for our presentation. We'd now like to entertain questions from the audience. [Operator Instructions] So questions, please. Thank you very much. The first person. Mitsui Sumitomo (sic) [ Sumitomo Mitsui ] Trust Asset Management. [ Koguchi-san ], please?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#8

Mitsui Sumitomo (sic) [ Sumitomo Mitsui ] Trust Asset Management. My name is [ Koguchi ]. Can you hear me?

Hiromitsu "Hiro" Ikeda

executive
#9

Yes, we can hear you.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#10

I have 3 questions. Regarding enhancing Access to Health, I have questions. First of all, on Slide 11, Pediatric Praziquantel, as is described here, there has been progress being made, which I think is very important. Once again, Praziquantel Consortium, what is the contribution of Astellas to this consortium? What's the significance of Astellas' presence in this consortium? Could you explain this once again? That's my first question. Secondly, health literacy enhancement contribution. I think this is a very interesting initiative and the potential of this technology in the -- what about the potential of this virtual platform? What's your plan for the future? It can be your imagination or just ideas, I'd like to hear more. And to enhance Access to Health not only in Brazil, this can be rolled out in other countries through expansion. Is that going to be possible? Thirdly, again, regarding the initiative in Brazil, looking at the integrated report, evolving organization culture, Ricardo-san said that the operation in Brazil is very successful in that dialogue. In Brazil, new initiatives are becoming successful. In terms of the organizational culture, anything special? Why your -- this can be the evidence of the successful organizational operation at Astellas?

Naoki Okamura

executive
#11

Thank you vertical much, [ Koguchi-san ]. Regarding all the 3 questions, the Head of Sustainability is going to explain in detail. So he's going to respond. As you mentioned, I will add something, like something I just imagine.

Shingo Iino

executive
#12

May I? [ Koguchi-san ], thank you very much for your questions. First, regarding Praziquantel, as you know, it's a social issue in global health. There are a variety of issues in global health. And then what can be done by Astellas? When we think about it, as I said in my presentation, what Astellas can do -- what Astellas alone can do, issues which can be resolved with Astellas capabilities should be done. That's the basic concept. Based on this assumption Praziquantel current status, when we consider the schistosomiasis, Praziquantel is the only drug in the market. But the size of the tablet is too big and the taste, it tastes bitter. For children, they cannot take the medicine, that's the reality. Our manufacturing group has capabilities to produce smaller tablets with their technologies, and technology was available to improve the taste. Using their capabilities, we thought we may be able to resolve the issue of the then Praziquantel. Once again, what Astellas can do through Astellas' capabilities and knowledge, we wanted to address the social issues and the issues in schistosomiasis are matched. That's the first point. And secondly, the project in Brazil. I was very determined to work very hard in this project as well. This is a future vision. First of all, for the future, open ecosystem. As such, in order to resolve a variety of our health issues, we are aiming to turn this into a platform to resolve various health care issues. As I said in my presentation, disease literacy can be enhanced [ and as one ] to provide content, we'd like to leverage on this platform. In Brazil, in considering this program, there are a variety of elements. If I explain just briefly, the environment in Brazil is one thing I'd like to mention. Gastric cancer is one of the major cause of deaths in Brazil. The initial symptoms of gastric cancer, because of the gastric complaints, it may be identified and diagnosed late -- in late stage. And it would worsen the prognosis and health care cost. By enhancing our health literacy for patients, early diagnosis and intervention can be the areas where we can do something about it. As for the Internet environment in Brazil, per capita Internet usage time is quite long according to a survey. And they value communication, so 2-way communication through the Internet and an approach to develop a virtual platform would be fit to resolve the health care access issues in Brazil. Internally speaking, as [ Koguchi-san ] said, employees of our Brazilian affiliate have very high engagement score. They take on a challenge a lot, not just the work in front of them, they end up taking on a challenge on many things. And they have a strong sense of belonging. So there was a structure put into place for them to work together with the sustainability department. In the future, looking at the situation in Brazil, if we can achieve more than we expected, then in similar countries, we are hoping to expand this initiative. That's my personal wish. That's all for me. Thank you very much.

Naoki Okamura

executive
#13

Iino-san, thank you very much. Let me add a bit. Regarding the initiative in Brazil, from the idea level, we have been able to come this far. So whether the idea would work or not must be examined first. If we're able to examine the validity, then we can increase target diseases as one thing and we can expand the target countries. We're hoping to move in that direction. What's the most important thing is that there is increasing interest in health care, and because of this, information is sometimes excessive. Patients and family members wonder where they can find the right information, where they should go to. Instead of doing everything by Astellas, but -- the reliable information should be gathered. If they come here, they can find the useful and the correct information, not just from Astellas, but from other sources as well. Ricardo, outside of Japan, Astellas awareness is not so high. But in Brazil, in the industry, he is working very hard and he improved the reputation. He has strong leadership, so he can lead the organization strongly as well. Since last year, he moved to Spain to serve as the General Manager and he is building the organization in Spain. We are hoping that he can play a role there. That's all for me.

Hiromitsu "Hiro" Ikeda

executive
#14

Thank you. Next, from Mitsubishi UFJ Trust. Hyogo-san, please.

Shinichiro Hyogo

analyst
#15

I am Hyogo from Mitsubishi UFJ Trust. So I'd like to ask you a question about the Nomination Committee. Is that right? Is that okay?

Hiromitsu "Hiro" Ikeda

executive
#16

Yes, please go ahead.

Shinichiro Hyogo

analyst
#17

So about succession planning, thank you very much for your detailed explanation. I know you are working on succession planning in earnest, I understood it. I'd like to ask outside directors. This Nomination Committee, to what extent the committee should be involved in appointing? So Okamura-san has leadership and then he was unanimously voted for, and that's wonderful and there is no problem. But when it comes to a pharma company, the time line or time frame is longer compared to service companies and others and the corporate strategy cannot be very visible from outside. So as outside directors, to what extent the Nomination Committee should be involved in the actual nomination? Should you ensure the process itself and just that? Or should you be actively involved in the actual selection? What do you think? And in terms of not just CEO, but for other CxOs, to what extent the Nomination Committee should be involved in the nomination and the selection? So please answer that question.

Takashi Tanaka

executive
#18

Thank you for your question. Well, next to me, the CEO is sitting. So it's rather awkward to answer this question.

Shinichiro Hyogo

analyst
#19

Yes, I dare to ask this question.

Takashi Tanaka

executive
#20

So first, about the Nomination Committee, as I explained to you already, it is made up of only outside people. And in the selection of CEO, of course, in the committee meetings, there aren't candidates sitting there, so Mr. Yasukawa back then gave us detailed explanation. And what we do at the committee is, number one, as you have asked a question, to ensure the process, the transparency of the process, whether process is being operated appropriately, we are checking on that. And in addition, a criteria appropriate for CEO. I explained to you the criteria and we check to see whether those candidates are meeting those criteria in a transparent manner from the neutral perspective. I don't know whether I'm answering your question directly, but it's not just the process, but we have some additional involvement there. So that's answering the first question. Could I continue to answer the second question about other CxOs? So as you know, in terms of CEO, we took a lot of time to discuss and deliberate on the CEO succession planning. But when it comes to CxOs, as Sugita-san already explained, division heads, so -- they are between division heads and the CEO, and of course, we have similar deliberations and discussions. And the CEO gives us an idea of what kind of attributes and characteristics should be there for other CxOs and we take them into consideration. And as the Nomination Committee, we discuss whether those candidates are suited to meet those characteristics explained by the CEO. And when it comes to the candidates, in the Board of Directors' meeting every quarter they are there, we ask questions to these people. So we know these people. And upon that, the recognition at the Nomination Committee we come to the conclusion as the committee. Did I answer your question?

Shinichiro Hyogo

analyst
#21

Yes. So as the second question, I think this question goes to Tanaka-san. Japanese pharmaceutical companies' CEOs' compensations compared to the compensations of CEOs of the global pharmas are lower. But unless you raise the compensations for those top management, you can't really compete well with global companies. Some people think so. . So those directors and above people, what do you think is the appropriate level of the compensation for these people? What's your idea?

Takashi Tanaka

executive
#22

Yes. Thank you for your question. May I answer your question? In consolidated financial statements and footnotes, I'm sure that you have read what is the structure of compensation in Astellas and I am sure you have read it. But what we are doing is that, because we are a globalized company, so if you read the securities report, we have certain benchmarks upon which we determine the compensation levels within the compensation committee, that should be rather comparable to the global level. Whether those compensation levels are high or low, I wouldn't really give you my personal opinion. But I think, currently, those compensation level is quite convincing already. That is my understanding. So going forward, if the world changes and if our competitors also change, of course, we need to review the compensation if that is the case. Thank you very much.

Shinichiro Hyogo

analyst
#23

So you have that recognition there. So that's good. So my final question is to Sugita-san and it's about human capital. So if you look at the engagement score, and I think it's quite high level -- maintained at the high level, I have confirmed it. So you are working on the activation of the organization to improve the productivity and so on and so forth. But when it comes to human capital and human resources, are you making investment into human capital? What are you doing? And what would you like to do in the future? Please let me know.

Katsuyoshi Sugita

executive
#24

Yes. Thank you, Hyogo-san. Investment into the human capital is really the hottest topic nowadays. So when it comes to human capital, we take it seriously at our company. But on the other hand, I don't know whether it's appropriate for me to say this. But recently, the time spent for training and the cost spend for training, when those costs are high, there is an impression that such a company is making investment into human capital. But I think that's kind of wrong. Rather, preparing an appropriate succession plans, and for younger people, to provide opportunities for career development and the development plans being thoroughly discussed between the supervisors and subordinates. And if the time is spent for that and that's thoroughly implemented and if those young talents can believe that they can grow in Astellas or not, I think these aspects are the most important aspects when it comes to investment in human capital. And when it comes to a senior level of the organization, I think succession planning-wise, we are doing pretty good. When it comes to career development and development plans, growing people through work, I think in this regard, there is still room for improvement. And I think people managers need to implement these things. So this means that we need to coach and guide those people manager appropriately to encourage those people to engage. So within the human resources, we are changing the organization to promote such aspect. So that's the stage we are at right now. I hope that answers your question.

Shinichiro Hyogo

analyst
#25

I think it was a very clear cut explanation. So rather than being swayed by the trend outside of the company, you have your own idea. That's great. So I'd like to continue to have communication with you.

Hiromitsu "Hiro" Ikeda

executive
#26

Thank you very much. Next, Daiwa Securities, Mr. Hashiguchi, please.

Kazuaki Hashiguchi

analyst
#27

Hashiguchi speaking. I have questions about CEO and top management succession plan. In the pharmaceutical company succession, people of similar generations with an interval of a few years, some companies want rather frequent successions every few years or so, where at other companies, people may serve in the position for 10 years or more. And when there's a succession, the generation may change. The top management achievements may not have an impact in 1 or 2 years, so it may affect the situation in 5 years or so. So it's very important to manage the company with a long-term perspective according to my understanding. For Astellas, the next candidate should have what kind of capabilities and qualifications being required? Where are the next challenges for Astellas? Depending on how they see these issues, it's going to be different. After the selection of the candidates, you explained the process today. But to begin with, whether the process to select candidate is the right one, the Nomination Committee consists of outside members only. Why that particular candidate? What kind of capabilities or qualifications are held by them? What kind of people are required for Astellas into the future? Can you realize sufficient discussions just by outside members? You placed importance on continuity and Yasukawa-san, the predecessor, and Okamura-san joining the company in the same year. There was a deep commitment to the current CSP2021, and Okumura-san was the right person for the next CEO and there was consensus. The reason for selecting such a person, how the issues for Astellas were discussed then reached conclusion that this kind open was required, could you explain this process, Tanaka-san?

Takashi Tanaka

executive
#28

Am I to respond first? It's a very difficult question, but at the same time, I think it's a very good question as well. Thank you very much, indeed, for your question. In the explanation earlier for the Nomination Committee from the executive side, to be more precise, from Yasukawa-san, we received a candidate to discuss, as I explained, but Hashiguchi-san pointed this out. Then how to select candidates? Needless to say, we are outside member to candidates. Other than those we meet at company, it can be difficult for us to understand and people working for other pharmaceutical companies to be selected as candidates can be difficult. Regarding the selection of candidates themselves, the executive side and the incumbent president to choose the candidate, I think, is important. Having said so, what kind of capabilities and achievement should exist in those people? The Nomination Committee want people who can commit to sustainable growth of Astellas. Such people must be selected. Once we receive the proposal for a candidate, whether that person can lead Astellas for the future, including that issue we have been discussing, that's the current status. Did I respond to your question?

Kazuaki Hashiguchi

analyst
#29

If possible, I'd like to hear from Okumura-san as well.

Naoki Okamura

executive
#30

Me? How should I explain? Before selecting a candidate, there is a CEO succession plan as well. Most of the people who will become CEO are serving as CxO in many cases. CEO, CxO succession planning is already explained at the Board and the Nomination Committee. As Mr. Tanaka mentioned earlier, you don't understand people by just looking at the documents in writing. Not just the CxO, but from the division head and above, we should increase the contacts with the Board of Directors so that Nomination Committee members can see those candidates are potential candidates in person. I think that's very important. Just by chance, I joined the company in the same year with Yasukawa, but it was just by chance. As you know, there was an analogy to other companies. We have a relatively faster cycle compared to the companies. Changing the generations. The person is going to stay in the same position for 20 years, we are not taking such a style at Astellas. I'm not in the position to judge whether it's the right thing or not. That's to be discussed by the Nomination Committee. That's all from me. Thank you very much.

Hiromitsu "Hiro" Ikeda

executive
#31

Thank you. Next, Nissay Asset Management. Yatsunami-san, please.

Junko Yatsunami

analyst
#32

Yatsunami from Nissay Asset Management. I would like to ask you some questions about activities of the Nomination Committee, I have some additional questions. So in your explanation, Tanaka-san, going forward, apart from CEO, for other top managers, you will be involved more in the deliberation you said. And CxO and division heads and above should come to the Board meeting so that you can get to know them firsthand. But you are a global company. Meaning that those global candidates, how are you going to evaluate those candidates in each business site? How are you going to find those candidates from outside of your company outside of Japan? How are you going about it? Do you think this is a challenge? So overseas, outside of Japan, as for candidates and succession plans, are there any additional explanation or comments you can make?

Takashi Tanaka

executive
#33

Yes. First, about CxO selection, how we look at it. So the current CXOs, they have their areas of responsibility and not just the Nomination Committee members and also Outside Directors are monitoring the achievements of those CxOs. But are the numbers, the only criteria for evaluation? As Okamura-san said, these people come to the head office and take part in the Board of Directors meeting and ask -- answer our questions. In that way, I will be able to see those people firsthand. So that's about candidates. So what about the candidates outside of the company? And it goes without saying these people, if they are promoted internally, this is a good thing. But we actually discussed that in terms of succession planning. And as Sugita-san showed already in the material what is the timing that those candidates become ready, and those candidates that are in the ready stage are being discussed. And it may so happen that there aren't any appropriate talent outside of the company or inside the company, for that matter. Then of course, we, the Nomination Committee members, meet these people to see whether those people are appropriate candidates or not. So that is the process in place. Did I answer your question?

Junko Yatsunami

analyst
#34

Yes. So what about the candidates overseas listing up -- or listing those overseas candidates, you don't see any issue as of now. Is that right?

Takashi Tanaka

executive
#35

Yes, as long as those people are available inside Astellas pool, then there isn't any problem. Well, Nick came the other day.

Katsuyoshi Sugita

executive
#36

Yes, I am Sugita in charge of Human Resources and compliance. I'd like to give you some additional comments. Number one, about CxO, and it's not fully established yet, but those CxOs, for their own successor candidates, they select division heads. And consciously, they invite those division heads to the Board of Directors' meeting as well as the executive management meeting. Therefore, those CxOs, they always show their selected candidates in front of those Board meeting and management meeting. And overseas, for internal meetings, we use Teams. Therefore, there aren't any advantages or disadvantages just because we are in Japan or outside of Japan. And when it comes to overseas and external candidates, inside the HR, we have experts who do the executive search. And they are looking at executive level people and doing the search, not just inside, but also outside of the company and introduce those candidates to the CxOs in order to expand the pool of the candidates, not just inside, but also the outside of the company. Thank you. That's all.

Junko Yatsunami

analyst
#37

Thank you for your thorough explanation. I have another question. The Nomination Committee activities, I don't know whether that's covering this or not. But outside directors successions, Mr. Tanaka, what are your thoughts on the succession of outside directors in terms of the skill sets? What kind of people should be selected going forward? You may prepare a list? And are there any challenges you're seeing right now in that regard?

Takashi Tanaka

executive
#38

So may I answer your question?

Junko Yatsunami

analyst
#39

Yes.

Takashi Tanaka

executive
#40

Thank you for your question. So I would like to talk about what I think about that. So outside directors, and I think this is the very basic, I think the skill matrix that is required by Astellas, that's there. And we need to have good balance in terms of the skill matrix in the selection of outside directors. And in addition, this industry, the pharma industry, is the industry where technologies advance very quickly. And we are outside directors, therefore, when it comes to the understanding of science, it's not always easy. But as of now, Dr. Ohno is there as an Outside Director, so I think the operation is all right. Going forward, when we select outside directors, so when there are some new qualifications that are needed because of the emergence of new technologies, then we need to review the skill matrix properly. And another one is we have to consider is the diversity, of course, but also the availability of these persons. Those outside directors, they need to spend time, and if those people are the directors of other companies, they may not be able to secure enough time for Astellas. And that is being discussed and confirmed in advance in the Nomination Committee. And of course, independence is very important. So that's all for me. Is that okay?

Hiromitsu "Hiro" Ikeda

executive
#41

Thank you very much. Next, Asset management One. Muraoka-san, please.

Yoshinori Muraoka

analyst
#42

I have 2 questions. First, sustainability management as a whole. Access to Health and others, you are promoting these initiatives very actively. Regarding your employees, including those who are in the global team, how much is the level of penetration? As CEO explained earlier, initially, it was in the form of CSR, but you have increased the linkage with your core business. The short-term profit or your performance or business, there can be a trade-off in some of the initiatives. In that case, how much do they feel convinced? How are you penetrating these initiatives among employees? That's my first question. And secondly, it's related to human capital. Sugita-san is playing a very active role in the very advanced initiatives. Regarding the KPIs at the end, there was an engagement survey scores in the end. How are you going to show this to us as investors? As Hyogo-san said earlier, improving productivity, are you going to show that information as well? How are you going to link and tie this and show and present that information to investors for the future?

Katsuyoshi Sugita

executive
#43

Thank you very much. First about sustainability, I would like to explain, Iino may add where necessary. First of all, CSP2021, which is ongoing, there are 4 strategic goals. And the fourth one is enhancing sustainability. We have such goals. And it's not just somebody doing this alone, but this is well recognized as a strategy in the company, deepen our engagement in sustainability. And if something is outside of the core business, the money you want to spend could be spent by someone else. That could be the image. But rather, through our core business, we want to enhance sustainability of society. That's our sustainability as well. So those who create a new medicine, if that's launched, that is going to help the society. That would contribute to social sustainability. So the job you do can be compatible with sustainability. I think employees are being -- are able to think that way. We are pharma company, and people who develop drugs using test tubes and those who do clinical studies and those who manufacture tablets and those who deliver information to physicians and also are engaged directly would feel that they are contributing to health. But support functions may find it difficult to feel that way, but we do this as well at Astellas. And what you do today would be linked somewhere, and it would be impacting one of the 4 supply chain areas. Employees are able to feel that way. So your daily work would be linked to sustainability. I think such a sense is being fostered. Iino-san, anything to add?

Shingo Iino

executive
#44

If I may add, this fiscal year -- or rather related to sustainability, we are having periodic discussions and we are reporting to the executive committees and others. And awareness of sustainability among internal employees, it's important to penetrate their awareness according to the comments we received. From this fiscal year, we have been establishing sustainability week. Sustainability activities at Astellas would be explained so that employees, including global members, can understand. We are organizing such an event. And also, there are about 70 groups or divisions and our members visit them individually to explain. As Okamura said, the work they do would result in enhancing sustainability. If there is time for them to think about it, then they can feel convinced. It's not just Astellas doing sustainability activities. But through their activity, how they can contribute to sustainability, there is time for them to think about it. Then in order to increase awareness and increase the understanding among employees, we are doing such activities. Secondly, Sugita is going to explain regarding the second question.

Katsuyoshi Sugita

executive
#45

Thank you very much. Regarding the second question, I'm not sure whether the wording is correct. But in our culture, originally, it was rather KPI-driven, task-focused or check box method were rather strong. And one of the things we are working on right now is the KPI to move away from KPIs. That's what we think about in a process. In the longer run, what we are aiming to achieve is as follows: mission, purpose, VISION exists and we have a midterm business plan, our CSP and the single year plan, how much we can contribute to our business goals in human capital. And that is the most important goal. So whether it's a single year plan or midterm business plan, whether we have been able to achieve it and how much contribution is being made, we think that's the ultimate goal for us. But just talking about it may not be enough because you may not have goals in front of you. Regarding gender, by when we want to achieve how much percentage for our female managers and engagement survey, we don't have targets like this much by when. But what we are aiming for is to continue to make improvement better today than yesterday and better this year than last year. Talent, which might have been taken away by other companies should be attracted by us. That's what we are aiming for. At the single year action level KPIs or action level KPI at 3 years' level, we do have such KPIs. But in the longer term, mission, purpose, VISION and midterm business plan or CSP, these are the ultimate goals also in human capital as well. That's all.

Hiromitsu "Hiro" Ikeda

executive
#46

Thank you. Now it's time to close. So with this, we would like to conclude today's Sustainability Meeting 2023. Thank you for your attendance. [Statements in English on this transcript were spoken by an interpreter present on the live call.]

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