Aston Martin Lagonda Global Holdings plc (AML) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
January 31, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGood morning, and welcome, everyone, to the Aston Martin Lagonda call. I must advise you that this conference is being recorded today. And I would now like to hand the call over to Mrs. Penny Hughes, Chairman. Thank you. Please go ahead.
Penelope Hughes
executiveThank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Aston Martin Lagonda call. I'm Penny Hughes, Chair of Aston Martin Lagonda. And I'm joined by Andy Palmer, our Chief Executive; and Mark Wilson, CFO. I will be making some opening comments, and then I will hand over to Andy. And at the end, the 3 of us will then be happy to take your questions. Today, as you would have seen, we are announcing a strategic equity investment by a consortium led by Lawrence Stroll, and proposal for a rights issue, which together will raise GBP 500 million. In addition, we're making important revisions to our business plan. The difficult trading performance in 2019 resulted in severe pressure on liquidity. This has left the company with no alternative but to seek additional equity financing. Without this, the balance sheet is not robust enough to support the operations of the group. However, the strength of the Aston Martin brand and our expanding portfolio of cars have allowed us to attract a strong new partner in a consortium led by Lawrence Stroll to deliver the turnaround of the business. Through detailed discussions and working closely with our advisers and management team, we all underwent a rigorous process, reviewing the needs of the business and finding a solution that provides near-term liquidity to focus on the turnaround of the core business, and a revitalization of the equity story of our luxury automated business. In a unanimous decision, the Board believes Mr. Stroll's strong background in luxury and support for Aston Martin Lagonda as a British heritage brand best aligns with our positioning. This decision reflects the special situation of the company and the responsibility to safeguard for all stakeholders while building value in the Aston Martin Lagonda brand. Mr. Stroll will join the Board and become Executive Chairman on completion of the placing. And I can confirm my intention to step down as a director following that completion of this important transaction for Aston Martin Lagonda. This is an important moment for the company and, on completion, removes significant uncertainty for the business. I will now hand you over to Andy Palmer.
Andrew Palmer
executiveThank you, Penny, and good morning, everyone. As announced in our trading update on the 7th of January 2019, was a difficult year and a disappointing performance against our original plan, which obviously resulted in severe pressure on liquidity. Today, we're taking decisive action to rebalance the capital structure of the business, to strengthen our balance sheet and to necessarily and immediately improve liquidity to position the company for sustainable long-term profitable growth. The proposed placing to the consortium led by Lawrence Stroll of about 46 million shares or 16.7% of the company and a rights issue of GBP 318 million are supported by our major shareholders, Prestige and SEIG and Adeem and Primewagon. These major shareholders have also undertaken to take up 100% and at least 50% of their rights within the rights issue, and the consortium will also take up their rights in full and any remaining rights not taken up by Adeem/Primewagon. Yew Tree, which is a vehicle controlled by Mr. Stroll, has also agreed to provide GBP 55.5 million of short-term working capital support to improve the company's liquidity immediately and will be refunded following the placements. The financial terms of this agreement are significantly more favorable than the delayed draw notes. And once the placing has settled, we would no longer plan to draw those notes. Following the performance of 2019, we undertook a comprehensive review of operations, and we're announcing a series of actions to reset, stabilize and de-risk the business. Let me start with reset. Controlling production to prioritize demand oversupply and regain strong pricing position and delaying investments in electric vehicles in the near term, our revised plan includes a more conservative view for sports car wholesales for 2020 and, in particular, for Vantage. And in the medium term, we expect to manage sports cars' volumes to maintain our price position as a luxury brand. Stabilize. Focus on successfully delivering the exciting new products this year with the DBX in Q2, Vantage Roadster in the spring and Valkyrie deliveries starting in H2, and then continuing to execute on our plan for special vehicles. De-risking. Gradually delever the business, reduce CapEx and reducing operating costs by GBP 10 million on an annualized basis, GBP 7 million in 2020 after one-off costs, broadly offsetting expected cost increases due to the new plants in St Athan. In terms of phasing of model delivery. For our core cars, our mid-engined core car, Vanquish, will now be unveiled following the Valhalla in 2022. Mid-engined cars are a core part of Aston Martin Lagonda's future. As part of this, an enhanced approach to Formula One is considered important, and an agreement has been reached to drive the delivery of the reset business plan with the Racing Point Formula 1 team becoming the Aston Martin works team from 2021. The initial term is for 5 years, including Aston Martin receiving a share in economic interest of the team. We've also agreed a sponsorship deal with commercial terms similar to our current arrangement for Red Bull starting in 2021 and for the following years. On which note, I'd also like to thank Red Bull for their partnership and their support. We will continue our proud sponsorship of the Red Bull Formula One team with the 2020 season, and our collaboration on Aston Martin Valkyrie continues until its delivery, with production expected to start and ramp up through the second half of this year, as previously communicated. Specials continue to be a key component of the plan. We have a number of specials slated for delivery this year, including the Goldfinger DB5 continuation, the DBS GT Zagatos, which will complete the DBZ Centennial (sic) [ DBZ Centenary ] collection. We also look forward to unveiling the recently announced V12 Speedster. Returning to core cars. While the relaunch of our Lagonda brand will now be no earlier than 2025, and that Rapide E is currently paused, we remain committed to developing a fuel-efficient modular V6 engine with hybrid capabilities. This engine will support Aston Martin's core cars being available as hybrid variants from the mid-2020s. Beyond our product pipeline, we are making changes to our operating structure, including internal management, restructuring in sales, marketing and engineering, and will reduce our costs commensurate with our financial and operational ambitions. Further, due to the significant reduction in contractors, a voluntary redundancy and early retirement program actioned in 2019, additional reductions will be made to rebalance our permanent and contractor head count. This, while we are also creating about 300 new roles at St Athan, in addition to the 300 people we already have on site. There is also the opportunity for efficiencies in our manufacturing costs through improved supply chain management and ongoing designed-in initiatives. In terms of outlook, there's no change to the update that we gave at the start of the year on our expectations for fiscal year '19, adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of GBP 130 million to GBP 140 million range. In terms of fiscal year 2020, we've said today, our CapEx is expected to be circa GBP 285 million, and depreciation and amortization, circa GBP 220 million. And in the medium term, the opportunity remains to expand margin and increase free cash flow, and we will give a more fulsome update on that in due course. In closing, the past year has been a disappointing and challenging time for the company, leaving us in a stressed position with severe pressure on liquidity. Today's fundraising is necessary and provides a platform for the long-term future of the company. And Mr. Stroll brings strong and proven expertise in automotive and luxury brands. We have a series of actions to reset, stabilize and de-risk the business, positioning it for controlled, long-term profitable growth. Crucially, rebalancing the supply-demand dynamics of the business will support restoring our strong price position as we seek to turn around performance and also deliver a more efficient operational footprint. We will revitalize the business this year, delivering exciting new products with the DBX launch around the corner in Q2, the Vantage Roadster in the spring and Aston Martin Valkyrie deliveries starting in H2. In particular, I'd like to thank our shareholders for all of their support during what has been a difficult year. I'm confident that our reset plan and strengthened balance sheet will provide us a sustainable platform for the future. And with that, Penny, Mark and I are happy to take questions.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from the line of George Galliers.
George Galliers-Pratt
analystI just had a couple of questions, if possible. The first one is with respect to potential deleveraging of the balance sheet. You obviously have confirmed that you no longer plan to draw on the delayed notes. But can you perhaps speak to whether you plan to pursue any further deleveraging in the wake of this capital raise?
Andrew Palmer
executiveThank you. I'm going to pass that question over to Mark.
Mark Wilson
executiveYes. Morning, George. Thank you very much. Nice to hear from you. Just in terms of the question, clearly, we have a number of debt items live in the market with certain maturity dates. We will take a rational economic view as to how we look at managing that debt stack, as you'd expect. But of course, crucially today, what bringing in this money absolutely does is brings down net debt very significantly to a more manageable level.
George Galliers-Pratt
analystAnd then two others, if I may, quickly. Firstly, on the OpEx cuts and also the CapEx guidance for 2020. When we look at the GBP 280 million that you're guiding for 2020, how do you think about CapEx for out-years going forward? Are you thinking that, that's a sustainable absolute rate in the medium term? Or would you think that as a percentage of revenues, it should remain fairly constant in the medium term?
Mark Wilson
executiveSo today, George, we're talking in brief about our reset plan. And as you would expect, we'll give more guidance in good time on the longer term.
George Galliers-Pratt
analystOkay. And then just one final one on the Vantage relaunch, which you referenced along with the introduction of the soft top. Could you just perhaps give us a bit of color in terms of what the relaunch of the Vantage will involve? Is this more of a sales and marketing and awareness effort? Or are you actually planning to make some changes to the vehicle in response to customer feedback in order to achieve better ASPs and demand?
Andrew Palmer
executiveSo I think I'd like to say that up to a moment where we can properly show the car. But clearly, the centerpiece for the relaunch of Vantage and, indeed, ensuring that the pricing is where it needs to be, is the Roadster. And obviously, the Roadster is a large part of the total volume of the Vantage range. It's a big part of -- a big percentage of the total. And obviously, it changes the look of the car. But allow me to hold that over until Geneva.
Operator
operatorAnd your next question comes from the line of Kai Mueller.
Kai Mueller
analystThe first one is on your credit line that you're getting with Lawrence Stroll for the working capital. Can you give us a little bit of sense? You said it's economically more interesting than what you would be paying for the delayed draw notes. A quantification on that?
Mark Wilson
executiveYes. Look, Kai, I mean what we said today, and I'll stick to the script on it, if you don't mind, is it is substantially better than drawing the delayed draw notes.
Kai Mueller
analystOkay. And is that part of the equity contribution? Or is that separate lending pool that you would then repay back post the equity issue?
Mark Wilson
executiveYes, correct. Upon equity issue, this facility would be immediately repaid.
Kai Mueller
analystOkay. And then you obviously have the core shareholders supporting also the rights issue post the investment. Adeem have set at least 50%. Can you comment on their intention because they have been a seller in the past during these negotiations?
Mark Wilson
executiveSo I think the important thing to recognize today is that Adeem and Primewagon have committed to at least 50%, showing their long-term support. And Investindustrial and SEIG, they have committed to follow 100% of their rights, so that -- with strong support from our legacy shareholders.
Kai Mueller
analystOkay. And then if I think about the change in plan, obviously, on your Lagonda launches now, but it's in delayed to post-2025. Can you give us a little bit of color maybe how much money you've already spent? Or how much money you had allocated in your planning period until the initial launch date for those investments that might now not materialize?
Andrew Palmer
executiveWell, obviously, what you've seen is a competitor action, which is also tending to push the luxury cars beyond 2025. I think what I'd like to concentrate on is the commitment to the V6 hybrid. And that's really, really important because that essentially makes it into our mid-engined cars and, indeed, other cars in the future. So you -- we have very clearly a commitment towards lowering our CO2 footprint in the performance area. And we've chosen to spend our CapEx in that area, but obviously, you need to balance that out by some delay on the electric cars.
Kai Mueller
analystOkay. And this V6 hybrid engine, it's fully yours? And where will it be produced? So is it still produced at the Ford site as your current, own engines?
Andrew Palmer
executiveWell, to answer your first question, yes, it's fully designed and engineered in-house. It's -- from a development point of view, it's substantially complete. But basically, we now move into the production phase. And I can't yet say where we're going to produce it. It's beyond to say that it will be produced in the U.K., and obviously helps also with our local content.
Operator
operatorAnd your next question comes from the line of Stephanie Vincent.
Stephanie Renegar
analystLooking at cash flows throughout the year, I think the CapEx guidance is welcome. Where I think would be helpful for modeling is the working capital, your expectation of the flow from deposits, any decline in the accrued payables, which continue to tick up on your balance sheet, would be good. And also just your view regarding Chinese dealerships, economic activity, unfortunately, because of this coronavirus would be welcome, too.
Mark Wilson
executiveStephanie, look, I mean, just in terms of things we've already said about this year, clearly, this is quite a different shape year to previous years because, obviously, we've got the DBX launches in Q2. We've got the Valkyrie and expensive car launches just after that. Obviously, we'll be ramping up the volume for DBX. And therefore, in working capital terms, you would expect, correct me, as we've said before, that inventory will rise. So there's some shake to working capital there. And obviously, same as we go through Valkyrie. But beyond that, we will give more guidance in good time. Today is very much about the -- taking the actions to reset the capital base and to put the company on a stronger footing. So more guidance in good time on this year and the medium term.
Operator
operatorAnd your next question comes from the line of José Asumendi.
Jose Asumendi
analystJosé from JPMorgan. Just a couple of questions, and I might get the similar answer. But -- and the reason I don't understand where the business is going 12 months out, 16 months out, can you give us some color, please, at least on unit sales expectations ex DBX, ex specials? Are you looking to sell more or less cars in 2020? Also, we're trying to understand a bit better is the plan you have for the next 12 months is going to meet the expectations. Can we have some color on EBIT or EBITDA to try to understand this is -- the business can really generate cash, at least on a -- in the medium term? If you could just give us some color on how to understand the business EBITDA, please?
Andrew Palmer
executiveIt's Andy speaking. Let me try to give you a little bit of color, although I'm obviously not going to give you numbers. What we've clearly said is as a strategy is that we want to get back to an order book and retail pull, okay? That naturally implies that we won't put pressure on wholesale. We'll put more money into advertising and promoting the retail and very clearly less money into incentivizing and pushing vehicles. Now that's naturally going to lower our core sports cars volume. And we've not been able to do that in the past. The GBP 500 million allows us to try to do that more properly. Now offsetting that, of course, you've got the launch of the brand-new DBX. You've got -- you've also got, as I mentioned, the Roadster on Vantage and, of course, the Valkyrie, and those will be pushing volumes naturally in the other direction. And look, we've -- I've been very, very clear that the DBX is being sold to an order book. And that as of the start of the year, we had 1,800 orders. 1,200 of those orders were customer orders, and the 600 between are basically customers in the process of specifying their vehicles and some showroom vehicles. So you can very clearly see that the -- basically, the move back to retail pull, and that naturally means that the core cars volume will reduce, and the DBX, obviously, will go to more than offset that.
Operator
operatorAnd your next question comes from the line of George Galliers.
George Galliers-Pratt
analystSorry, I haven't re-entered the question queue. So I think that is -- if we can pass to the next one.
Operator
operatorAnd your next question comes from the line of [ Mark Schaplate ].
Unknown Analyst
analystI was just wondering if I could just -- there's obviously a lot of information this morning. I was just wondering if I could clear up some basic facts. So has Lawrence become the major shareholder? Or have I read that wrong?
Mark Wilson
executiveNo, you've read that wrong. Lawrence has indicated the amount that he's going to put in, and he's also indicated an intention to go up to and possibly over 20%. But that doesn't put him in a position of being the majority shareholder. We have 2 legacy shareholder groups, Investindustrial and SEIG, and pre-new money issue, they hold 33%, and we have Primewagon/Adeem who, pre-new money issue, hold 27%. And so obviously, Lawrence will be a very, very important part, becoming a third significant shareholder in the business.
Unknown Analyst
analystRight. Sorry, I just -- okay, I just wanted to get that right because -- so has those 2, Investindustrial, will they be diluted following today?
Mark Wilson
executiveYes, they will. So I'll just give you the numbers. Investindustrial pre is 33%, and post the placing, 27%. And Adeem/Primewagon are pre the new money, 28%; post, based on their intention, is 23%.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. And what's Lawrence coming in at, sorry?
Mark Wilson
executiveLawrence comes in on the placing at 16.7% pre the rights issue. That's part of the placing.
Unknown Analyst
analystRight. Okay, okay. And if I could also just ask you, will the current flu virus epidemic in China have any effect on your sales?
Andrew Palmer
executiveIt's Andy speaking. It -- obviously, it's a really tricky question. Clearly, as I said earlier, we've been concentrating on moving from a retail to -- from a wholesale push to a retail pull. So our expectations in the first half for our Chinese sales were not particularly ambitious. So in that sense, we've got rather lucky with the planning. Clearly, the longer the flu virus goes on, obviously, it may well have some effect. But so far, and I'm talking about the first month of the year, it's difficult to measure a significant effect because our ambitions were quite low.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. And just very finally, you launched the SUV at the back end of last year.
Andrew Palmer
executiveYes, DBX.
Unknown Analyst
analystYes. How is that going? How is that going?
Andrew Palmer
executiveWell, orders are, I mean, frankly speaking, significantly and materially higher than any launch that we've done in the history of the brand. Specifically, as we said, 1,800, 1,800 orders basically in the first week of January. 1,200 of those are customers who have already specced their vehicle, and that's allowed us to, what we call low-to-line, basically prepare them for manufacturing. The 600-gap between 1,200 and 1,800 are customers that are in the process of speccing their cars. So frankly, I mean, I'm delighted with the way that the sales have started to go and the concentration now. I'm sure that you've also seen the press reports, the dynamic press reports have been super. So the thing to get right now is launch the product smoothly, but all very encouraging.
Operator
operatorAnd your next question comes from the line of [ Richard Fallon ].
Unknown Analyst
analystJust a quick question. The GBP 500 million in proceeds, the company had GBP 800 (sic) [ GBP 800 million ] of net debt at September 30, and that was before the issuance of the GBP 150 million bond. Will the proceeds be used simply to bolster cash? Or is the -- the GBP 110 million that you had at the period end? Or is the intention to actually redeem gross debt?
Mark Wilson
executiveYes. So thanks for the question, Richard. I mean, clearly, on bringing the money in, it brings net debt and overall leverage down to more manageable and more acceptable levels. That's the first thing to say. And clearly, as with any company that has debt instruments live in the market, we'll take economically rational decisions, as you would expect, as to how we manage those through to maturity or otherwise.
Unknown Analyst
analystSo does that mean that you'll consider redemption of existing debt? Is that -- I mean, that's sort of the process? Or is it the intention to hold back the cash and use it for CapEx? I guess, that's really where I'm going.
Mark Wilson
executiveSo as we've said today, this is about supporting the Second Century Plan and helping us to deleverage. It does both of those things. And how we look at the debt stack will be determined by an economically rational approach. We'll take a look. So we're not going to rule anything in or out at this point in time.
Operator
operatorAnd your next question comes from the line of Philippe Houchois.
Philippe Houchois
analystA few things for me. First of all, many thanks for doing GBP 500 million. I think that's the right amount. And I feared you would do a halfway house, so that's well done. Questions I have on the -- multiple times in the release, you talked about reset. Now I read your release, looks to me that it's a postponement of an existing plan, was the reset. What am I missing? And along those lines, if you -- part of the reset is also looking at lower volume. At what point do we have an asset impairment, notably on your capitalized R&D? Will that be at the time of the full year results? And the last point, if I can, is so all this capital raise has been done through -- approval in AGM. Are we looking at AGM in June and the capital raise in Q3? Or would you call an EGM for that?
Andrew Palmer
executiveVery clear. Let me tackle -- it's Andy. Let me tackle the first part. So yes, you've seen a reduction in CapEx, which implies some rescheduling. You see that very clearly in the rescheduling of the Lagonda EV programs. And we think that, that is consistent with what our competitors are doing. On the other hand, you've seen us reaffirm our commitment to the mid-engined cars. So you see Valkyrie, obviously, being launched at the back end of this year, the 001. 002 goes out next year. Very clearly, we're saying in 2022 that we have the Valhalla, which is the -- if you want, the competitors or something like LaFerrari. And then in 2023, you have the mainstream Vanquish. And obviously, the margins on those cars are very good. So we wanted to get to those cars quickly and confirm our ambition to be in that mid-engined range, supported very, very clearly now by a very, very firm foot in the Formula One land, so using Formula One to very much be the marketing strategy for those mid-engined cars. I suppose that you could argue James Bond very clearly being used this year as part of the front-engine range. So you see a very strong marketing pull. You see a series of actions which is very much aimed at retail and, therefore, not pushing product, letting manufacturing circle back so that the retail always exceeds wholesale, taking the stress out of the system, starting to rebuild a healthy order book and getting back to that pull system. And obviously, to do that, you've got to show some savings, and that's the reason that we've decided to push out to 2025 and beyond on the EV side but commit to the V6 fuel-efficient hybrid and, of course, as we've highlighted, a number of other cost reductions as we look to improve the efficiency of the company overall. So you have to take it as a suite of things. But basically, that commitment to that mid-engined range and sacrificing a little bit of time on the EV range. Now I'll pass over to Mark to tackle the other questions.
Mark Wilson
executiveYes. Morning, Philippe. Just regarding impairment, obviously, we're in a close period now. We report our results at the end of February. So you wouldn't expect me to say anything on that other than to say we have strong confidence in the product line going forward, even under the reset plan, even under those lower volumes Andy talked about. In respect to the remaining capital raise, we expect that to be done in short order with the placing and capital raise close together and an EGM in short order as well. More details on that, as you might expect, at our interim -- at our prelim results, rather, at the end of February.
Operator
operatorAnd your next question comes from the line of Christoph Laskawi.
Christoph Laskawi
analystIt's Chris from Deutsche. The first one would be on Formula One. Are there any costs associated with entering that and renaming the team and really improving the performance there? And Andy, you mentioned that Formula One should function as a marketing tool as well. Can we expect your marketing spend other than that to come down then? So would that be part of the SG&A savings? On volumes for Vantage, you are referencing a relaunch essentially with firm pricing. Is there a certain assumption factored in when it comes to volumes and what we need to get used to far lower volumes if you want to hold the price and get a decent pricing level in? And the last question will be on the DBX. The numbers that you've shown today are essentially what you presented in early January. Could you comment on the momentum after that release? And is it continuing to do as well? Or are you seeing some slowdown? Anything on that would be helpful.
Andrew Palmer
executiveThank you. Thank you for picking up on Formula One. And yes, it does become a centerpiece of our marketing efforts. So as I said, we've entered into legally binding term sheets, under which Racing Point, the Formula One team, becomes the Aston Martin F1 works team, to reiterate with effect from the 2021 season. And this agreement is for a 10-year initial term. And of course, Aston Martin, as I said, will receive an economic interest in the team. In terms of -- we're in Formula One right now. As you know, we're a title sponsor to the Red Bull team and we'll continue to be title sponsor through 2020. As we move to the newly named Aston Martin team, Racing Point team renamed, it does not significantly affect the commercial terms. And therefore, the -- basically, the spend, whether you measure it in Formula One terms or if you measure it in overall fixed marketing terms, is not significantly changed by this deal if you talk about an annual basis, of course. And just to be clear, the contract with them is renewable for 5 years subject to, obviously, attaining satisfactory conditions at that time. On Vantage volumes, basically, as I've said -- basically, we're relaunching the product using the opportunity of the Roadster, which was due to be launched in the spring -- is being launched in the spring. We're using that opportunity to basically reset where we are on Vantage. It will obviously reduce the number of wholesales, but I won't get into the specific numbers right now. There was a third question I missed. Sorry.
Christoph Laskawi
analystYes, yes, that was on the DBX orders, on the numbers that you've shown...
Andrew Palmer
executiveYes, I think -- go ahead, sorry.
Christoph Laskawi
analystYes, it's essentially the same as you showed early Jan. So my question was, if momentum has continued throughout January and if you're seeing nice progress and continuing pickup in orders, so has anything changed in that regard?
Andrew Palmer
executiveYes. Look, forgive me because what I don't want to do is get drawn on every time we have a call, giving you an update in numbers. As I said earlier, it's the best launch we've ever seen. We've got really good momentum.
Operator
operatorAnd your next question comes from the line of [ David Munn ].
Unknown Analyst
analystThe press release is silent on the participation of Daimler. Presumably that would be disclosed at the time of the rights.
Andrew Palmer
executiveAbsolutely correct.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] And your next question comes from the line of Stephanie Vincent.
Stephanie Renegar
analystJust on your announcements about your upcoming engine launches. Can you give us an update on the agreement with Ford as well as any color? Obviously, you're coming out with this fuel-efficient V6 delaying the electric vehicles. Your views on how you grapple, I guess, with the regulatory factors that go alongside these announcements.
Andrew Palmer
executiveI think what I'd like to do is go through that a little bit more detail in the prospectus. It's a big question that you're answering, obviously -- or you're asking, obviously, goes into things like CO2 compliance, into performance, into the rollout of that V6 hybrid engine. I think the message I would leave with you is, indeed, that we're committed to the investment in our own engine and in manufacturing that in the U.K. and more details to follow. Thank you very much. I think that was the last question. So what I'd like to do is thank everybody on the call today for your interest, and we look forward to keeping you updated on our progress. Thank you very much, and have a great day.
Operator
operatorThank you. That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect. Speaker, please stand by.
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