Atlas Engineered Products Ltd. (AEP) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 25, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Jake Bouma
attendeeGood morning, everyone. Welcome, and thank you for joining Atlas Engineered Products' Q2 2026 Earnings Call. I am Jake Bouma, an IR consultant for AEP. Today on the line discussing AEP's Q2 2026 financial results and company highlights are the company's President, CEO and Founder, Hadi Abassi; and CFO, Melissa MacRae. Following their remarks, we'll open up the call for an analyst Q&A session. Before handing over the call to Hadi, please note that information we present today could contain forward-looking information that is based on management's expectations, estimates and projections. Please consider the risk factors, including those in the filings made by AEP on SEDAR when reviewing this information. Also, all amounts discussed will be in Canadian dollars unless otherwise noted. Hadi, please proceed with your remarks.
Mohammad Abassi
executiveThank you, Jake. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. The second quarter of 2026 reflected the strength and resilience of our team, delivering a stronger financial performance over the prior year and the first quarter of 2026. While the market conditions in Ontario and British Columbia remain competitive, quoting and other activities continue to be encouraging, and we are seeing benefits from the investment we have made in sales management and operational capabilities. We have made important progress in our first robotic truss manufacturing facility in Clinton, Ontario, with equipment installed and commissioning underway as of late this July. We anticipate delivering our first truss orders from this facility in September 2026. We continue to report high quoting volumes from the beginning of 2025 and continuing in 2026 up to the end of July 2026. Quotes exceeded $176 million compared to roughly $159 million and $125 million up to the end of July 2025 and 2024, respectively. Because the quoting activity has been significantly higher in both 2025 and early 2026 than the previous years, order volumes have also been increasing. Up to the end of July 2026, orders totaled over $49 million, up from more than $33.7 million in the same period of 2025. However, while orders are being placed, we are noticing that there are more lead time on these orders than during a higher -- a busier market, and deliveries may be in the subsequent quarters instead of within the same quarter as the order was received. We are also seeing typical seasonal recovery in the market for the summer and anticipate this continuing in the fall of 2026. We remain cautiously optimistic that the HST relief on new housing in Ontario seems to have sparked some market recovery, but anticipate signs of long-term recovery will become more evident through the winter and early 2027 during a typically slower construction season. AEP continues to drive organic growth to expand its focus on wall panel manufacturing and offering customers complete project packages that include roof, floor trusses, wall panels and engineered wood products. Additionally, we are assessing the benefits of adding loose lumber material and wall panel installation to its offering to customers. These strategies can help reduce our exposure to recessionary pressures by increasing potential sales volume per order. In addition to its organic growth strategy, we continue to evaluate acquisition opportunities across North America. Each potential acquisition is evaluated based on its geography, results and growth potential. With that, I would like to now turn the call over to Melissa MacRae, CFO of AEP, to provide further commentary on the financial performance and position through Q2 2026. Thank you, everybody.
Melissa MacRae
executiveThank you, Hadi, and welcome, everyone. Results for our Q2 3 and 6 months ending June 30, 2026 include: revenues of $16.2 million for the quarter and $25.5 million for the year-to-date; gross profit of $2.8 million for the quarter and $3.1 million for the year-to-date; normalized EBITDA of $1.7 million for the quarter and $1.2 million for the year-to-date. Revenues increased due to the expansion of the sales team for market growth and the acquisitions of Truss-Worthy and Penn-Truss later on last year. Gross profits increased in the quarter, driven by the increase in revenues. For the year-to-date, gross profits are still decreased due to the results of the first quarter, which were driven by winter weather conditions and industry market conditions in Ontario and BC. Through the winter, the company has maintained certain costs, which drives gross profits down, unfortunately, but the company will typically work to offset these costs with as much winter work as possible and the ability to increase margins later in the year, as seen by the increase in gross margins from 3% in the first quarter to 17% in the second quarter. These are typical seasonal trends in our industry. Normalized EBITDA continued this positive trend, moving from the first quarter of 2026 to the second quarter and for the second quarter of 2026 compared to the second quarter of 2025. This increase in normalized EBITDA dollars was driven by increased revenues, consistent margins and slightly reduced operating expenses, along with the add-backs related to onetime costs of the new facility -- of the new automation facility. Still, not all expansion costs have been added back as they are anticipated to be ongoing costs that are needed to scale up with an automated facility such as the sales team and some management support. The decrease in normalized EBITDA for the year-to-date results is driven by first quarter results, the same as gross profits. The winter work costs and seasonality of our business can be seen in normalized EBITDA results already moving from the first quarter to the second quarter of 2026. In Q1 2026, we had a negative 9% normalized EBITDA margin, whereas the natural seasonal increase, along with organic growth moving into quarter 2, resulted in an 11% normalized EBITDA margin, while moving forward, the remainder of the year is typically seasonally stronger than both the first 2 quarters of the year. I'd now like to open up the call for your questions. Operator, please provide the appropriate instructions.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] And it looks like our first question is from Russell, Russell from Beacon Securities.
Russell Stanley
analystMaybe first around the loose lumber materials and the wall panel installations. Can you elaborate on how far down the road you are in evaluating those opportunities and perhaps what you think the margin profile might look like relative to your other businesses?
Mohammad Abassi
executiveSo based on a full total lockup package, like that's minus the doors and windows, we actually implemented that across certain provinces in the country, especially Ontario and BC. New Brunswick, we already do it. The only thing we don't do in New Brunswick is we do not do the installation down there and the loose material. We do the walls, floors and trusses. It's the marketplace there, and the demand and the way the geography is, that's why we do that. In Ontario, with certain clients, long-term clients, we have started to do the total package as trusses, floors, walls, installation and loose materials. And we have done that in British Columbia -- starting to do that in British Columbia, where we have delivered the wall panel. So really, what we first we did was, Russell, phase by phase, firstly, set up the wall panel and the [ floater shed ] manufacturing to deliver those two components to the client. Now the next stage is we are adding the installation to it. And we have case study that it works and is successful, and we are in progress of building our team, building ourselves up to move that direction. The organic growth percentage is great. Plus, it gives the contractor and us a full control of the job. So if some delays happen, it's either them or us. There is no in-between person. And the contractors find it is cost-effective, very efficient, and that's one way to address the labor shortage we have in the country.
Russell Stanley
analystGot it. And maybe around government efforts to support or accelerate home construction, you talked about the HST relief. We've recently seen some announcements around infrastructure, for example. I'm wondering between that and whatever other efforts might be in the pipeline, how impactful you expect this kind of support to be?
Mohammad Abassi
executiveWell, anything they do and any initiative they take is really impactful. And one thing I've learned is, I guess, once you start paying more and more attention to the announcement, sometimes you get disappointed because it doesn't happen tomorrow morning. But -- and then what I noticed is the bureaucratic system, is the governmental system, everything that they got to go through the due process. And the announcements they've made in the past and stuff, and some of it is coming to fruition. And it's because even despite all the headwinds we have. Every 5 minutes, you get a new thing about tariffs or whatever is out there in the world, it's a crazy world out there. And still, the construction in Canada, in my opinion, the two biggest provinces, Ontario and BC, it bottomed out, completely bottomed out, and there is no way to go up. And it's recovering on its own strength. And just think of all these small or big initiatives the government is talking about, the infrastructure, the HST relief. So there are all those conversations that is starting to help. But it's not an overnight remedy that, hey, let's inject billions of dollars and fix it overnight. Because everything happens overnight, it will disappear overnight too. So I actually like it. It's brought a certain toughness and resilience to our business, to many, many businesses in Canada. Stuff like this is it, and [ big daddy ] is not going to take care of it. We'll make it happen.
Russell Stanley
analystMaybe one last question for me and I'll get back in the queue, just around Clinton and understanding the target for shipping in September. I'm wondering if you can talk about how commissioning has progressed thus far? We know there were delays in actually getting the shipments, but now that the equipment has been on-site for a while, has commissioning progressed as expected? Or any hiccups you'd call out?
Mohammad Abassi
executiveThe commissioning is going as expected. It's a little bit slow. And the hiccups or the bug fixing of the last stages, that is happening right now. And it's just because every time you run an amazing machinery and automation like that, it's 350 -- 300 feet of long assembly robotic automated line. And there are so many switches and stuff. And like anything else, you will expect some bugs to be worked out. And we are going through all that. And last stage is one here, one there or stuff. Any moment right now in September, we would be producing orders there, Russell.
Operator
operatorAnd the next question is from Nick, Nick from ATB.
Nicholas Boychuk
analystHadi, in the prepared remarks, I think it was in the press release, you mentioned that some of the quoting and order activity was quite strong but that you're seeing some terms get extended out, such that if you have an order received this quarter, it might not be delivered in that quarter. I'm curious if there's any change in the nature of those contracts or the bid themselves that would -- either a change in the business or the change in the quality of what you are bidding on?
Mohammad Abassi
executiveIt's really -- Nick, there is no -- I don't know if there is any significant change. The one thing I know is -- you know, like -- usually in the past, in an operation, when you have way overflow and then you start juggling orders and you start doing everything -- and you hope to somebody is going to bump their order because you are past capacity. But right now, because of our capacity, we increased our capacity, and our orders are so in parallel to each other. And then when there is a bump or a delay in the construction -- and I guarantee you, in construction business, because there are so many things involved, you're always going to get delayed, from the weather, to the inspection, to the red tapes, to everything. Now we're eliminating a lot of that stuff from the foundation to the lockup by producing a total install package. And the contractors invite that a lot. And they love it because then you're cutting a lot of delay factors and inefficiencies out. Plus, the one thing there is the moment things slow down, there is a labor pool out there. But the moment everything picks up, just as I'm talking about a small percentage of the dial to move, then that labor in the construction that -- the ground floor labor unit, the delays will start happen because of the shortage of labor we have in this country. That's why we were so adamant about the need to go to robotics, make the investment on automation not to replace human beings, but to make up for not having a lot of labor available. So then the solution will become, patiently and diligently, you start doing the component manufacturing in construction. That way, you do everything automated inside the factory, that you eliminate all the delays and everything. So it's not a set of equipment you set up just because the market demand was there. Oh, there is a market and let's go buy. No, these equipment are set up for the future. Because you've been in business for so many years, you will see the same challenge over and over and over again. There is a time and place, you've got to deliver a house fast and affordable to the client. And that's our -- we are part of the solution in the country doing that. And behind that, I do like what government, how they work with us and how they support us and how they follow that vision. Like that is a very, very positive sign. I think most people look for everything overnight, home run. There is no home run. This is a long, long game, longevity game that you learn your process and you move on, and you do it. The same as us doing a fully locked up package for a client. We dreamed about that 2 years ago. We talked about it, we did it, and we were scared. Now we could do it. We might even do 4 or 5 a week right now, and we don't even know what we're doing. We just will grow that. So it's a combination of everything there. I gave a you a long answer, Nick, but it's a combination of everything's happening.
Nicholas Boychuk
analystOkay. No, I appreciate the color, Hadi. And with the new Clinton robotics facility, what does the cost profile for you to manufacture a truss on the robotics line look like, either comparable to the old manual human labor Clinton facility or to some of your peers in that local market?
Mohammad Abassi
executiveIn that local market, the cost saving, it will show -- on the labor side, you will save -- it's quite significant. And the cost saving, actually, if you ever measure your efficiency at the bottom dollar, like, for example, for a line of this automation to produce about 6,000 on an average on a very conservative number per day -- 5,000 to 6,000 board feet per shift, sorry -- the amount of labor you need is 3, 2 running the machinery and 1 loading and unloading. On a usual setup, you would need about 8 -- 7 to 8 people to do that. Now there is a saving on cost of labor and efficiency. And then you got to look at all the costs you spend on, HR, on training people, hiring 10 people so 1 will stay. All of those costs, if you measure it, it's not -- it's huge saving. Plus, it gives you the capability. If you want to add a second shift, all you need is 2 more persons that are machine operators. You don't need to have 8 or 9 people. And to find 8 people, you got to go to about 30 people. And right now, we have ads out in the country. We could hire 40 people tomorrow. And we have our HR team, agencies, everybody, foreign workers, everything working hard to find those people, but they're not knocking on your lawn.
Operator
operatorThank you, Nick. So it looks like there's no more analyst questions. And this marks the end of our Q&A session. The company is available post call to answer any questions you may still have. With the contact information that's on the screen right now, you can either e-mail us or go to our website and submit a Contact Us form. And we would like to thank you for your interest in Atlas Engineered Products for participating in this call. And at this time, you may now disconnect, and have a great day.
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