Austal Limited (ASB) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

February 25, 2021

Australian Securities Exchange AU Industrials Aerospace and Defense earnings 62 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Patrick Gregg

executive
#1

Good morning, everybody, and welcome to the FY 2021 Half 1 Results Call. I'm Paddy Gregg, the CEO at Austal; and I'm joined by our CFO, Greg Jason. And this is, of course, the first set of results that I'm presenting following the departure of David and the excellent transition that we had. And we will be presenting in the same format as we have done previously using the slide deck, with me giving business overview and context, while Greg focuses on the financial detail. As always, we plan to present for about 30 minutes to leave plenty of time for questions you may have. I think in summary, it's been quite a challenging months for us with COVID. But we made a decision early on last year to attempt to keep all our yards open and adhere to social distancing rules, and we've been very successful in doing that. We've seen some challenges with the strengthening Aussie dollar. But we're very focused on opportunities for long-term sustainable growth and profitability of the business and replenishing our order book to keep our facilities full and staff gainfully employed. And we hope you'll see that at the headline level today, we've delivered another strong half year earnings and profit in the past 6 months. But there are some movements in the detail. And so we've put some additional slides in the deck to really try and help explain what's going on in the segments. So without further ado, if we click on to the second slide, I'll talk through the financial headlines. I think in summary, these results demonstrate a really strong operational performance. The one thing that continues to receive maximum focus is replenishment of the order book and the associated revenue. And I plan to talk more about the opportunities as we see them, particularly in the U.S. later on in the presentation today. Standouts in the half for me were particularly increased shipbuilding margins from both the U.S.A. and the Australasia business. We had flagged that previously, but I'm pleased to say that we've delivered on what we committed to. Confidence in the balance sheet has allowed us to increase the dividend half-on-half and continue to invest in both organic and inorganic growth of the business. We've grown a really healthy net cash position of around $260 million, enabling us to deliver returns to shareholders whilst retaining the ability to self-fund investment and long-term growth opportunities. And we are investing for future shareholder returns, including things like steel shipbuilding in the U.S., growing our support business with the acquisition of BSE business in Cairns, just to mention a couple of things. In particular, I think the results demonstrate how the nature of the business are now being heavily skewed to defense and more diverse than ever before. We can withstand the current economic and operational challenges that face us. If we flick on to the next slide and look at the key facts for the business. We look at the revenue, and we'll talk more in detail on that and help explain the change, but some challenges with COVID, some FX headwind and coming off the back of what was a record year, and we have seen a reduction in revenue this half. We're also working our way through the order book. And while replacement is a key focus for us, let's not overlook the fact that we have 38 ships under construction or scheduled, and that is still a significant volume of work we have ahead of us over the next few years. I'm very proud of what our teams in the U.S.A. and Australasia business have done to achieve the delivery of 10 vessels. 5,800 skilled employees have worked tirelessly to make sure that Austal delivers on its commitments and return value to the shareholders. Many businesses have suffered during this time. But with a strong order book, we have a strong balance sheet, we entered COVID in a very fortunate position, and that can be seen from the results we're delivering here today. Our service and support business has had some challenges, but we see a bright future. And I'm pleased to say the BSE acquisition has gone well, and we're now up to 8 service centers worldwide, with 33 vessels under sustainment contracts. I'm now going to hand you over to Greg to talk through some of the detail of the finances.

Greg Jason

executive
#2

Thank you, Paddy. Good morning, everybody. I'm going to go straight to Slide 5, which is the standard earnings headline. The really key items on this page are about the decline in revenue, which has gone down 19%, but the really substantial improvement in EBIT. There's a lot going on across the various shipbuilding and support activities in U.S.A. and Australasia this half. And so this time around, we've included a lot more content to help you understand the movement in those key parts from the first half of '20 to first half of '21. So let's go across to Slide 6. So this is depicting the $200 million movement in group revenue from first half '20 to first half '21. And approximately 25% of the reduction was due to FX headwinds on translation. About 40% was due to reduced throughput in U.S.A., and I've got a slide later on that I'll talk to again to more detail about that. We've also got a decline in U.S.A. support revenue. And again, more detail to follow in a few slides. Paddy talked about the decline in Australasia shipbuilding revenue. So we had 2 things going on. we completed and delivered 3 vessels during the half, we came down on level of activity on a couple of other areas, but we also had a net increase in the amount of patrol boat activity with the Cape-class 11 to 16 contract that was awarded May last year. We've had an increase in Australasia support revenue, and a lot of that was generated from emergent work that arose from docking that took place during the half to the Cape Class Patrol Boat fleet. Going to move to Slide 7, and this one depicts the movement in group EBIT from first half of '20 to the first half of '21. You can see overall that there's just over a $10 million increase in EBIT. We faced $4 million worth of headwinds on FX. The U.S.A. shipbuilding delivered a lot more EBIT in this period. Relative to the comparative period, there was a higher level of incentives as we delivered LCS 26. The team also realized a number of cost reductions, and we're able to retire some risks across a number of vessels as key milestones were reached during that half. U.S.A. support revenue -- sorry, support EBIT grew, but that was associated with some revenues coming out of 2020 activity. I'll strive that in a few slides. And we also had Australasia shipbuilding EBIT increase. This was also what we projected. And despite the decline in revenue, we saw an EBIT improvement and an EBIT margin improvement. And this is what we projected as we came off a number of commercial vessels that were low-margin in Australia. And whilst we've got less activity now, we've got a better suite of projects in the portfolio. I'm going to go across to the segment. I'm lost in my pages here. Going across to the segment breakdown on Slide 8. FX impacted U.S.A. revenue, $45 million in total revenue level, and $4 million at an EBIT level. Shipbuilding EBIT increased despite the FX headwinds and the EBIT margin increased 2 percentage points, and that was associated with the incentive, the improved cost performance and risk retirement that I mentioned a moment ago. I'll skip over U.S. support because there's some slides that support it, so I'll drop down to the Australasia section. Total revenue decreased, EBIT improved, as described. We have had a nice increase in the Australasia EBIT margin. We were 2.4% in the first half of '20. that increased to 6% in the second half of 2020, and that's gone up again to 6.4% for the first half of '21. We're not yet at the target band that we want to be in. We're still striving to get Australasia up into the 8% to 10% mark. Support revenue increased largely because of the emergent work that I described, and it was emergent work on the Cape Class Patrol Boat contract. About 3, 4 years ago, we had declared that onerous. And then in 2020, we were able to get to a point where that was no longer onerous, but it's still not a particularly profitable contract. And so a lot of that additional revenue that came through wasn't contributing a lot of margin to the group. And so that had a dilutionary impact on margin. And for the first half of 2020, also included some high-margin nonrecurring work. And of course, we didn't then get the benefit of that flowing into '21, and that also contributed to the margin drop. I'm going to Slide 9, which dives a bit deeper into U.S.A. shipbuilding revenue. So overall, there's a AUD 121 million decrease in revenue. About 1/3 of it was due to FX headwinds, 2/3 was due to the LCS program, and the rest was attributable to EPF, which was pretty flat. So within LCS, we've got a lower level of materials in the half, the first half of 2020 had a lot of long lead time materials associated with LCS 36 and 38, which was the last 2 LCS that we ordered. and we didn't have those types of long lead materials in the first half of '21. We also had a decrease in the level of labor hours on LCS as we're progressively building those programs. EPF had a factor each way. There was a lower level of materials, but there was a higher level of labor and netted out to just a slight decline in revenue period-over-period. So moving on to Slide 10. This is exploring U.S.A. support revenue in more detail. So you can see there's quite a considerable drop in revenue from the first half of '20 to the first half of '21. At a macro level, the primary concept that's going on is that we're not sufficiently entrenched in the ongoing annual maintenance of the LCS fleet at present. And there's 2 enablers that are going to let us break into that revenue stream in a more permanent way. The first of them is that we need to be admitted to the panel of sustainment execution contract providers on the West Coast of U.S.A., which U.S. refers to as SEC West. And the second thing we need to do is to establish an Austal-owned and operated dry dock in San Diego, so we can then self-perform the majority of the work as prime contractor. So the U.S. team is working, and very focused on that particular initiative so that we can drive revenue and earnings back up in the support segment. At a more detailed level, of course, there were FX headwinds on revenue. We were, or are, victim of our own success in a way because previously, the Navy was docking each of the LCS typically somewhere around the first year of service following delivery. But the Navy has canceled any further post shakedown availability docking because of the quality of the vessels that are coming out of Mobile. So good for the reputation, good for the name, but not so good for the support revenue and EBIT. There has been less LCS class support as that program is maturing through to the end of LCS 38. There were some design engineering studies done in 2020 on EPF. We also had the FFG design work in first half of 2020, which wasn't repeated in '21. Nice to have a green box at the end. So we acquired the MARRS assets, which are across the river from the existing shipyard in Mobile, and that has contributed additional revenue to the group following the acquisition in August. So I'm now going to talk about U.S.A. support margins. For those of you who have followed us for a while would have seen the rather volatile margins that we've reported. And the IFRS accounting for the support revenue has resulted in a number of revenue timing issues that can significantly distort the EBIT margin. And we've prepared this slide to show you the reported margin and also margins normalized for those timing differences. So we get timing differences through a number of factors. One of them is the timing of incentive award fees as they're granted by the Navy. Second can be the approval from the government of additional funding or cost-plus type jobs. We've also had delayed revenue recognition in some cases for the service jobs in Singapore as that service center started up. And in some instances, we had some negative impact in some periods as we booked some doubtful debtors. And that created a hit on margin. But then subsequently, the debt is paid and didn't turn bad, and so we got a pickup in the following period. So the top chart to fix the reported and the normalized EBIT margin. So the reported is the blue columns, and you can see them going up and down. The most stark example is the second half of '20 and the first half '21. And then the normalized margin is attributing the revenue and the profit back to the periods where the work was done. And you can see that the normalized margin is in the band of 6.8% to 8.9%. The bottom chart just depicts the various EBIT movement as part of that normalization that I spoke to you. If you add all the way across, it is a zero sum. We still see the ongoing margin in this business be as per the normalized line on the chart. And we've said for a while that you shouldn't look at an individual half to get a reading on how that business is performing. You should take a longer-term average to get a picture of it. Moving to cash flow next. So we had very strong conversion of EBITDA into operating cash flow. EBITDA was just over $92 million and operating cash flow is just over $93 million. We've had $43 million of enhancing capital, which includes the MARRS assets in Mobile, the BSE acquisition in Queensland and a dry dock for Philippines so that we have the capability of launching our own vessels. At a very simplistic level, the way you can think about it is that the operating cash flow generated in the half was sufficient to fund all of the growth initiatives in capital. It allowed us to immediately retire just over $7 million of debt that came with the BSE business and allowed us to pay $0.05 per share of dividend at over $17 million. Year-end cash balance was $372 million, very strong. It would have been higher had we not had the appreciation of the Aussie dollar and that brought down to a lower number. So we do have a lot of cash at the end of December, but we've got several hundred million dollars of that earmarked both for committed projects, such as the balance payments on BSE, remaining infrastructure upgrades required to accommodate the dry dock in the Philippines, the ongoing steel investment for Mobile. And we've also got uncommitted projects that we've referred to, such as the San Diego dry dock business and Subic Bay to come. Finally, I'm going to go to the financial outlook on Slide 13. So first of all, we have downgraded our FY 2021 revenue guidance from $1.8 billion to $1.65 billion. That is based on an assumption of $0.77. The decline was driven by about $70 million of FX, about $22 million of lower U.S.A. support revenue and some COVID delays in Australasia that are pushing some progress out of FY '21 and into '22. But a good news there is that we have been able to maintain full year EBIT guidance of $125 million, also down at $0.77. Of course, we've faced FX headwinds, but that's been offset by the margin improvement on the U.S.A. shipbuilding and also the benefit of the pickup in U.S.A. support that was attributed to the second half of FY 2020. To give you a sense of FX sensitivity, a $0.01 movement in the FX rate for the second half would have approximately $600,000 impact on second half EBIT. At this point in the year, we are not going to provide guidance on FY '22, but we did want to give you a sense of the baseline level of revenue upon which we can build. So we see $1.4 billion of revenue for FY '22 as a baseline, which includes contracted ships, EPF 15, which is appropriated by Congress, but has not been awarded to Austal yet, and assumption of support revenue continuing at the first half '21 run rate. And we would see additional contracts in the shipbuilding space that could be progressed in FY '22 as being additive to this number. I'm now going to hand back to Paddy to go through further outlook details.

Patrick Gregg

executive
#3

So if we move on to the half year outlook and life beyond LCS, I think the biggest question we all have is, what comes after LCS? I've put this slide together because I wanted to demonstrate the volume of opportunity that we see out there. And it is significant, and it comes in shipbuilding and it comes in sustainment. I still believe that the U.S. giving us the $50 million match funding to get our yard in Mobile still capable is still the strongest indication I have that we're very much part of the U.S. industrial base. And we are very much required for them to achieve the naval program that the U.S. needs. There are numerous major steel shipbuilding programs on this slide and what we've listed are the ones perfectly in our size range. So if we think about the LAW program, very exciting. We think about OPC, which is in play at the minute, very exciting. And maybe LUSV, but we see some movement in that to the right. And in time, we fully expect FFG second source to come into play, and we are hearing rumblings of that moving to the left, perhaps as early as 2023 rather than the '25, '26 timescales that have been talked about before. We've also listed the opportunities that Greg spoke about to really make sure we are embedded as a prime contractor in U.S. sustainment with the SEC East and West running admissions contracts. Hopefully, within the next month, we will have some news on SEC East. And June, July time, we will have some news on SEC West. As the business has grown from shipbuilding and sustainment, we see it very important that we are a major player at the top level in sustainment going forward. We also see a lot of opportunities with the EPF ships. So EPF 15 appropriated, and we expect contract awards imminently. And EPF is very interesting because we're starting to see modifications coming through, whether it's hospital capability, small boat handling, capability improvements, the ability to land Osprey on it. And I think it's also really important to note that $50 million that has been appropriated to make the vessel autonomous. And that should be awarded in the very near future as well. The importance of that for me is it's something that is here and now and something that Austal can do, and we'll be able to demonstrate. and it's something we will certainly be pushing ahead of the LUSV concept, and that could be a good route for Austal to secure future in autonomy. And we're also starting to look much longer term. So things like the next-generation logistics chip. while that's sort of concept at the minute, I put it up there because we want to start looking further into the future, planning our programs and making sure we're not in the same situation we find ourselves in today, that we're really fighting hard to get work in the near-term to secure the revenues going forward. So I think, in summary, there is an awful lot of opportunity out there. We're very optimistic about it. We're very well placed to go and win it. The shipyard is performing exceptionally well, as you can see from these set of results. Steel conversion is underway, and remember that Navy have driven us very hard to make sure that, that is ready for May 2022, which I think is another strong indication that there are plans behind the scenes that we are very much part of the industrial base. So I would love to be sitting here today telling you that I had a steel contract to announce, but we're working very hard towards being able to do that, whether it's a full contract or whether it's something like modules that would allow us to demonstrate that we are steel ready, steel capable and can do it. More to come on this and is very much the focus of the business. So if we go on to Slide 15, the strategic outlook. This is the last slide I plan to present before we open for questions. But I think we've got to take it on the chin that LCS transition and COVID impact are very big and real issues for us. But I think we've demonstrated despite that, these are a great set of results with a very strong operational performance. And these are challenges I think we are well placed to overcome. The balance sheet has really helped us during COVID, allowing us to invest for what looks like a really exciting future and invest well. And those investments and transitions of people and businesses have executed exactly as planned. We're a much more diverse business now, operating in shipbuilding, support and indeed systems, and we will talk more about systems in the future and how we're investing to make our business more efficient and our products more attractive to people in the future. I think the same macro factors driving the U.S. Navy are also apparent in Australia. As we've seen with the award of the 6 tech vessels and also looking forward to the clearly defined construction runway for a whole host of new vessels through Australia's outlined force structure plan and of course, the sustainment opportunities that follow. We see some challenges, of course, in the commercial world, but there are some very interesting opportunities out there. And I put the Spirit of Tasmania on this slide because you may have seen some press that we are working with the Tasmanian government to help increase the Australian content of that vessel and find a way to build that in Australia, and that would be a very significant contract for a whole lot of reasons. It's a big contract. It would be working with the European supplier. It would give us an opportunity to bring together a steel hull and the efficiency gained through an aluminium superstructure. So all the skills that Austal has and being able to bring work to Australia, supporting the government with their desire for continuous naval shipbuilding and sovereign capability in shipbuilding. In terms of systems and strategy going forward, we're making quite significant investments in digitization of our shipyard and the efficiencies that come with that. And with the strength of the balance sheet, I'm pleased to say we're continuing to invest in research and development and the technology associated with our business and ships. I think in summary, of course, we need to generate new contracts for the future, but I'm very confident the future is bright because we've demonstrated we can deliver operationally. We have the capability to deliver in steel and aluminium, in shipbuilding and support, in commercial and defense, and there are a whole lot of opportunities out there for us to go and win. So at this time, I would like to open the call to questions and hand over to the operator to guide us through that.

Operator

operator
#4

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Alex Karpos with Goldman Sachs.

Alex Karpos

analyst
#5

Just a couple on my end. First of all, on the U.S.A. President change, I guess, why now? And do you anticipate any disruptions to the business? Or anything we should be aware of as far as kind of near-term impacts?

Patrick Gregg

executive
#6

So good question. We concluded our internal investigation on Monday. And on the back of that, we chose to accept the resignation of Craig. As you're aware, the CFO, Rusty, has been put in place. And we think Rusty is a great choice for that role because he has been Craig's right-hand man. He is all over contracts. He is all over the finances, obviously. And the work we're doing in the mergers and acquisitions space to help secure the future. As you'll also be aware, we've reported our findings to the Department of Justice, and we've been completely open and transparent to try and demonstrate that we have resolved these problems. We're happy to work with them, and we very much want to be part of the future of shipbuilding in the U.S. I think finally, the most important thing financially is we've also confirmed that the write-back we did in 2016 is the correct number. And we don't believe there's any more bad news to come through the finances.

Alex Karpos

analyst
#7

And maybe if I could just ask about the kind of project timing this year. Roughly fine, but how should we think about award windows for the unmanned program, LAW? And some of the newer ones like the next-generation logistics ship?

Patrick Gregg

executive
#8

So next-generation logistics ship is a long way off. That's in concept. But things like OPC are in play now and something that we are actively tendering. Very exciting contracts, potentially $400 million of vessel. It is a program of work. So we would anticipate 10-plus vessels. We have received the request for proposal, and we're due to submit that in May of this year. We would expect awards middle of 2022. So it's very interesting because it times very well with whenever we will be still capable. Obviously, a difficult contract to win because there is an incumbent. But perhaps performance on the incumbent, not quite as expected, and we think we will be very competitive in our tender with the efficiencies we've demonstrated on other programs.

Alex Karpos

analyst
#9

And maybe unmanned and LAW as well.

Patrick Gregg

executive
#10

So unmanned, it's hard to get a read on at the minute. There seems to be new news every day about what exactly they're looking for, and therefore, what the timescales are. The size of the vessel seems to move and is shrinking rather than growing at the minute. We would have preferred a bigger vessel. But I think autonomous EPF is a real opportunity for us, as I stated earlier. That's something that we're likely to put on EPF 13 and getting something out there that demonstrates capability for autonomy in a large-sized vessel and maybe something that causes them to think about whether they need LUSV as well as an autonomous EPF. Light amphibious, again, we're anticipating approximately $100 million a ship, 28 to 30 ships. Steel construction, so absolutely right for us. Hopefully, in the 2023 time period for the start of build. So again, if I'm optimistic and I look at what Navy have asked us to do in terms of being steel-ready in the middle of '22, this is another program that would fit very nicely with the skill set and the facilities that we have.

Operator

operator
#11

Your next question comes from Russell Gill with JPMorgan.

Russell Gill

analyst
#12

Just a follow-on question on some of these award programs. With the OPC and the LAW project, obviously, the OPC, you wouldn't be using your own design. And what about the LAWs project? Would you have the design a lot more? Or are you essentially just going to be operating as a subcontractor is where you're thinking of positioning the business?

Patrick Gregg

executive
#13

So OPC is certainly someone else's design. LAW, we would very much like to get involved in the design of that vessel and how we tailor it for the needs of the Navy and the facilities we've got on our capabilities.

Greg Jason

executive
#14

So Russ, so just one additional point. Even using someone else's design does not necessarily mandate being a subcontractor. You can be a prime contractor to someone else's design.

Russell Gill

analyst
#15

Sure, I get it. But the IP on the design of the OPC is the incumbent rather than effectively you guys, right?

Patrick Gregg

executive
#16

Yes.

Russell Gill

analyst
#17

Yes. Just if we talk through the U.S. margins, obviously, they're quite impressive, particularly given you called out revenue, I guess, delay. Because COVID-related revenue delays. The LCS 26 incentives, are you expecting similar incentive-type payments from the delivery of 28 onwards in the sense of you're sort of outperforming expecting incentive payments to be a similar sort of magnitude going forward?

Patrick Gregg

executive
#18

There are incentives on offer for remaining LCS.

Russell Gill

analyst
#19

And are you currently tracking in line with received digits?

Patrick Gregg

executive
#20

Sorry, I missed the word you used, Russell.

Russell Gill

analyst
#21

Are you tracking in line to receive a similar amount of incentives as what you received to LCS 26?

Patrick Gregg

executive
#22

There's similar amounts by ship, but the timing is mismatched because they're based on different milestones. So according to how many milestones fall into a given half or a given year will influence whether that goes up or down.

Russell Gill

analyst
#23

I guess another LCS question. The fact that there may have been some delays on delivery because of COVID-related restrictions and the like, does that impact your ability to receive the incentive? Or is the negotiation, the government is knowing that, that was kind of an impact to your operations?

Patrick Gregg

executive
#24

The U.S. Navy has provided some relief on COVID. I can't speak to the individual assessment ship by ship about whether they would provide relief on a launch date or a delivery date tied back to COVID. But they are the arbiter of good taste when it comes to awarding incentives.

Russell Gill

analyst
#25

And in your accounts, you've got some contingencies around 2 vessels that missed delivery dates. And there's progressing risk that the counterparty doesn't accept the vessel and asks for their cash back. Was there no insurance -- I mean can you get insurance on these vessels? I mean it appears from the way that you've taken this contingency that you see it as very, very low risk. But there's no business disruption insurance or the life on these 2 vessels because the size is quite meaningful?

Patrick Gregg

executive
#26

Yes. I'm not aware of any insurance you can get for these vessels. It's a feature in the contract called a long stop date. And it's put in there as a date by which there is a chance the operator will no longer have a business requirement for the vessel if it has not been delivered. And we've never seen anything like COVID before, so we have never had any major concern about these dates because they are set usually so far after the expected delivery date. And they're not something that give us any cause for concern. The first vessel we talk about is the Fjord Line vessel in the Philippines, and that was about to start trials just as COVID hit and the Philippines went into full lockdown. I'm pleased to say that last night, we achieved technical acceptance of that vessel, and that puts us on track for full acceptance of the vessel later on today. And that vessel will leave the Philippines and set sail for Denmark sometime next week. So we have worked through it. And we're also working through the Mols vessel, which is the follow-on vessel in the Philippines with the customer. We're still confident that they require the vessel because it's a government-funded route, and they have a requirement to put new tonnage on that route. And we don't believe there's any other way they can do that without this vessel. So I think that's why we've put them through the accounts as a low-risk, but we've tried to be as honest as possible with exactly where we stand contractually.

Operator

operator
#27

Your next question comes from Mitch Sonogan with Macquarie.

Mitchell Sonogan

analyst
#28

Paddy and Greg, just a few quick ones from me. Just thinking about that $1.4 billion FY '22 baseline revenue guidance, can you maybe just give us a little bit more detail on how it's split across U.S.A. and Australasia? And also, I guess, just thinking about the support revenues. Is the latest half sort of a baseline that we should assume going forward, and your lines on those East and West sustainment programs with the LCS to build from here?

Greg Jason

executive
#29

Yes. So there are numerous elements of that, Mitchell. First of all, the '22 isn't guidance, it's a baseline level of revenue given the contracted work, a level of confidence that EPF 15 is going to be awarded to Austal, having already been appropriated by Congress. I'll tie it into your comment there about support. It does assume the first half level of support as a run rate. but we're using that as a baseline. When we use the word baseline, naturally, we're not trying to make that a bull case. I'm just trying to give you a platform to think from. The order book for U.S.A. extends out through to LCS 38 being delivered in FY '24. So it's fair to say that a big chunk of the revenue in the $1.4 billion is associated with the U.S. business. And then we've got the commercial ferries with Fjord Line, Fred Olsen trimaran #2 and the Mols ferry that Paddy mentioned a moment ago that will feature heavily in on '22. Let me correct that, Fjord Line will not feature in '22, but the other 2 may have some. Then we've got a patrol boat fleet for the Guardian Class as well as the 6 Cape Class Patrol Boats we're building for Royal Australian Navy also featured heavily in FY '22. And the Guardian, the Cape programs go through to FY '23, FY '24 as well. What haven't I touched on, Mitchell, and the various things you asked?

Mitchell Sonogan

analyst
#30

That's fine, Greg. And maybe just following on from Russell's question, probably more about the U.S. shipbuilding margin. Understand there's variations on when you get milestone payments, et cetera. But looking forward, as the LCS winds down into FY '24, how should we think about sort of on an annualized level that margin, is the current one is first half pretty sustainable over the length of that program? Will you expect to see that actually go up? Just some thoughts on that.

Patrick Gregg

executive
#31

Yes, sure. So at this point, we're not providing U.S. margin guidance for shipbuilding. And for '21, we've really kind of done the hard work and simplified it by telling you that we're maintaining group EBIT of $125 million. We are at the mature end of the EPF program. And of course, deep into LCS. but note that there have been some significant design changes implemented for 28 and follows and EPF 13 and 14 also have some changes that overlaid from the EPF 12 starting point. So with that comes a level of caution in the way we're recognizing profit. If we do really well, of course, suffice to say, you can see great margins. And if we don't do as well, mitigating risk and taking costs out, then they won't be so flushed. So I recognize I'm not giving you the number that you want to hear, but we're not going to give EBIT margin guidance at this point.

Mitchell Sonogan

analyst
#32

Yes. No worries. And just a final one. I think you talked about part support, revenue decline was the cancellation of that post shakedown work in its first year due to the quality of the vessels. is that something you've seen before? Is that work being done elsewhere? And when -- it was not being done in its first year, when do you first see those vessels come in?

Patrick Gregg

executive
#33

Right. So it's not a case of work being awarded to anyone else. The Navy has outright ceased that level of activity. And that was work that Austal is doing a lot of prime contracting for. So the vessels really are going out of the delivery phase and then just stepping into a periodic maintenance cycle that has larger and heavier levels of stockings conducted at different points, as well as some maintenance availabilities where the vessels don't come out of the water. So that narration I gave during the earlier part of the call about being admitted to the SEC West panel will enable us to prime contract in that space and getting a dry dock in San Diego that we own and operate enables us to self-perform. And that is where we really want to tap in and then we closely coupled with a couple of decades of support for these ships.

Operator

operator
#34

Your next question comes from Sam Teeger from Citi. The next question comes from Aiden Bradley with Shaw and Partners. Your next question comes from William Park from Credit Suisse.

William Park

analyst
#35

Just got a couple of questions from my end. So firstly, on guidance. your guidance sort of implies the second half margins would step down versus first half. I mean I just wanted to understand how you're thinking about movements across U.S. and Australasia in second half and first half, given that you keep sort of productivity improvement benefits that you saw across OCS and EPF programs in the U.S., please.

Greg Jason

executive
#36

Sure. So I think looking at an individual half is too short a time frame. I understand the line of thought where you're looking at the full year and deducing the second half. We did have several -- we had some incentives in the first half that I spoke about with LCS 26 and some key milestones at which we had cost reductions being realized and also the ability to retire risk. I don't see as many milestones arising in the second half, and therefore, that reduces the opportunity for that level of improvement. That is not a statement to say definitely won't, but the $125 million of EBIT and the $1.65 billion of revenue is a best call of how we see things as of today. Naturally, that can evolve as the half progresses. The U.S.A. support part. I described the benefit we had of some revenues falling into the first half of '21 that were really associated with activities in second half of 2020. So naturally, we don't expect them to recur and not expect the support margin for the second half of U.S.A. to normalize. The throughput for Australasia support is interesting in that there's some core levels of work that are well predictable and understood, and it's the emergent work that is much more difficult to predict because typically, dockings, where a lot of the emergent work is identified but -- to your definition. And therefore, with less dockings, probably less opportunity for the same amount of emergent work. So ultimately, harder to predict what that will look like for the second half.

William Park

analyst
#37

And secondly, previously, you called out, I guess, an aspiration to get to $500 million of revenue from sustainment. How are you sort of thinking about that? Are you -- I mean can you get there with the existing capabilities and capacity? Or do you need to see -- I mean as you called out SEC West and I guess, expansion of your footprint, sort of Subic Bay comes into mind. So I just wanted to understand, yes, how you're seeing pathway to $500 million from this point.

Patrick Gregg

executive
#38

So I think you've mentioned a number of things that are really key to getting us to $500 million plus. Absolutely, as Greg has said, getting into the SEC East and West contracts and being able to prime work rather relying on being a second-tier and winning work from others is very, very important to us. Couple that with our desire to invest in San Diego. So let's assume that we're successful on SEC West, we're now a prime, and we're able to win work. We have our own facilities, and we would hope we are very well placed to be the best people possible to do sustainment or support work on the vessels we have built. We understand them. We've got access to the design, the people. We see that as very, very important. And if you look at the number of vessels we still have to deliver over the next few years, the size of the pie is growing, and the opportunity to win our vessels over the next 10, 20 years, we see as a really great opportunity going forward. And then go one layer above that, and things like Subic, we still think Subic will be a tremendous opportunity. It's been very difficult making progress on Subic with COVID delays and what's going on in the Philippines. But things are still happening, and it is still moving. We don't want to give you a commitment on a timescale. Based on what we've seen in the last year, no. But I can confirm that everybody is still fully engaged in making it happen, and nobody is talking negatively about it. And also remember what's driving all of this. So China doesn't seem to be backing down in any way, shape or form. And having vessels in that part of the world should also give us a great opportunity with work in Singapore and the ability to move people. And that is one of the drivers behind the reduction in sustainment revenue at the minute without being able to move U.S. citizens to Singapore to do work on U.S. vessels has impacted us. But I see that coming back in the future. And that's not something that's gone forever. And I think that's something that will grow based on political tensions in the world.

Operator

operator
#39

Your next question comes from Sam Teeger with Citi.

Sam Teeger

analyst
#40

Look, it's a bit of an room type of question, but I know it's on the minds of a couple. So just maybe if you guys can use this as a forum to address it. Can you talk to the timing of when you guys receive the $50 million for the shipyard in Mobile, and also just the findings and when you started providing information to the DOJ? And maybe talk about your sense of that commitment to Austal being part of the industrial base over the long-term in the U.S.?

Greg Jason

executive
#41

Yes, sure. I'll talk to the funding piece. So the funding piece is progressive, meaning that Austal needs to spend the money simplistically, staple the receipt for qualifying expenditure to a submission to the government or the U.S. Navy and/or the DOD, and then that is assessed and approved in return. So our expenditure is timed across financial years '21, '22 and '23, but the ability within that to commence construction of steel vessels within late '22. And so that's the timing of the $100 million, and then the $50 million will be recovered progressively through that, according to which elements it's attached to.

Patrick Gregg

executive
#42

And as far as the investigation and Department of Justice goes, Sam, we concluded our investigation on Monday night. And pretty much immediately went to the Department of Justice with a fulsome disclosure of everything that we had uncovered and things that were happening as a result of that. I'm not sure when we'll hear anything back or we are certainly not aware of any timelines for the resolution of this. If you think about it, it's been going for nearly 2 years. The investigation has been going for nearly 2 years anyway. It's not easy for us to get feedback. But I think we are being as transparent as possible, and we are working with them. We are trying to support them in their investigation. And the major reason for doing that is to demonstrate that we are taking this very seriously. We are committed to taking action, and we very much want to be part of the business in the U.S. going forward. Some people have asked us about concerns around the investigation and will you win any future work. And what I'd like to remind them is this incident or this event took place back in 2016 and the years leading up to 2016. And since 2016, we have won hundreds of millions of dollars to work in the U.S. So I don't think that this investigation will impact our ability to win work in the future based on what we've already won.

Operator

operator
#43

Your next question comes from Aiden Bradley with Shaw and Partners.

Aiden Bradley

analyst
#44

Just a couple of quickies. You tackled the sustainment fall in revenue well on the call so far. But just trying to get, again, for myself in terms of looking forward from my own estimates, how to think about it. You had 2 or 3 phenomenal years of growth in that sustainment line in the U.S., and that's obviously tailed off this year. And conservatively, you're saying it's going to stay at that run rate into '22. What's the cause of that slowdown? Is it -- they've told you to get on these SEC panels? Is it COVID? Is it the mix of ships? Because obviously, I was pretty bullish on the outlook for revenue there, short and medium term. So I just want to put some foundation back into my numbers. And then I'll ask a second question after you answer that one.

Patrick Gregg

executive
#45

Yes. Okay. I mean I think you've kind of answered your own question in that, that absolutely, we saw a slowdown because of COVID and people not being able to travel. I think we were as pleasantly surprised as we were unpleasantly surprised with the LCS postdelivery shakedown work because of the quality we're not going to see going forward. So that's a bit of a reduction. But I think on balance, and looking forward, we are more confident about the future, being able to get into the SEC East and West contract and being able to prime this work is a real advantage. Having other people dictating what we get or what we don't get is not easy, and they can do that for strategic reasons as well as purely commercial reasons. So if, for example, they decided we were too competitive, they may choose not to put work our way. And there's not really a lot we can do about it. So we see the getting on to the SEC East and West contracts as an ability that we -- I won't say unstoppable, but we're masters, more masters of our own destiny that we can go and tender for work and demonstrate that we're efficient through the rights that we tender at and then having our own facilities. We're masters of our own destiny to deliver efficiently and on plan the way we consistently demonstrate we do. I think -- and if we think about Australia as well, the 4 structure plan. So of course, the numbers aren't as big in Australia, but -- and strategically, the investment we made in BSE in Cairns is very much a reflection on the opportunity we see going forward in Australia. There's a growing Navy. There are a lot of new ships coming into service. We've already demonstrated our capability with the work that we do on the Cape-class boats that are in service and what we're starting to do with new Guardians as they're delivered. So we also see a great opportunity in Australia going forward.

Aiden Bradley

analyst
#46

Right. And just on order book -- I think I got this right. At the end of June, you said the order book was $4.3 billion. You've done $800 million and a bit in revenue in the half, and the order book is now $2.9 billion. So when I sort of model out the ships, I was getting to about $4 billion at that sort of June versus your $4.3 billion, and now I'm much higher than the $2.9 billion, and it doesn't seem to match with the revenue that you've sort of booked. What's going on in the order book between June and now to move from $4.3 billion to $2.9 billion other than currency and bits and bobs, but just trying to reconcile those 2 numbers?

Greg Jason

executive
#47

Yes. The currency is the single biggest other factor, plus any other movements in estimates on revenue where we have a variable consideration on some contracts.

Operator

operator
#48

Your next question comes from David Offer with Horizon Investment Solutions.

David Offer

analyst
#49

Paddy and Greg, just a couple of questions. The first relates to the sustainment program, the $500 million goal. What ratio of that is U.S. ships versus the rest of the world?

Patrick Gregg

executive
#50

It's not really something that we've ever put guidance out on. You know the numbers in the U.S. are much bigger than they are in Australia. And I think, for us, it's an aspirational target. And what's really going to drive it are the things that we've talked about. So for the sake of repeating it, the SEC East and West contract, the San Diego dry dock business, the opportunities that will come with Subic Bay in the future and of course, BSE in Australia. And the other announcement we made recently was around the MARRS acquisition in Mobile, so increasing our land in Mobile across the water from the shipyard, additional buildings, wharfage and of course, the dry dock that comes with that should give us an opportunity to launch or work on other ships. We then think in Australia about the increase in the Cape-class fleet with the 6 additional Capes that we're building today, we would very much see ourselves in the driving seat for winning, certainly the initial sustainment of those vessels as they enter into service. We talk to the Commonwealth about the efficiency we could give them through sustaining 16 Capes versus 8 plus 2 plus 6. And that's something we'll continue to talk to them about as we get closer to delivery of those vessels.

David Offer

analyst
#51

So the dry dock in San Diego, do you have a time frame on when you think that will be operational?

Patrick Gregg

executive
#52

Yes, in terms of what we're looking at internally. So we're entering into a process where we'd like to get a high level agreement on an asset, which would then put us on a due diligence path of approximately 90 days before we would then make a decision. So we're getting to a point where we're on a path to making a decision rather than we're continually looking and discussing.

David Offer

analyst
#53

Okay. Do you see the opportunity for tendering for work for non-Austal built ships as you build out these capabilities?

Patrick Gregg

executive
#54

Yes, absolutely. We see that both in the U.S. and in Australia. So the BSE yard that we bought in Cairns has facilities both in Cairns and Brisbane, and they have historically done a mix of Navy work and white boat work. So we have the opportunity to do that. Certainly, in the U.S. with the MARRS facility in Mobile, we have the same opportunity. It's a very capable dock that we have bought. And there are not an abundance of these things either in America or around the world. So yes, absolutely. And I imagine the greatest opportunity for working on different non-Austal vessels will come through Subic just because of the size of the dock and the capability it has. My honest opinion is we don't yet know just how good an opportunity that could be strategically based on where it's located and the capability it has.

Operator

operator
#55

Your next question comes from Supratim Datta with Citi.

Supratim Datta

analyst
#56

So could you provide us with some kind of an update regarding the Philippines' OPV program?

Patrick Gregg

executive
#57

Yes, sure. That's a good question. And that's another one that's kind of in the same category as Subic in that the Philippines has had a whole lot of problems with COVID. And they've been much more stringently locked down than many other nations. And so progress has been very slow with that. The kind of steps that we need to go through, what we're expecting is there will be a government-to-government MOU or agreement signs. And we anticipate that will be in the reasonably near future. That agreement then paves the way for Austal to transact and contract directly with the Department of Defense in the Philippines. Again, if you ask me to bet my mortgage on a timescale, I'd probably decline based on what we're seeing with COVID. But I can confirm that we are still seeing progress. We're working through technical detail with the working groups in the Philippines involved in this, and we are still making progress. So I'm still confident it will happen. And timescale, to be confirmed.

Supratim Datta

analyst
#58

And a last one, you talked about freight challenges impacting your ability to deliver ships. Could you talk about what kind of delays you're currently facing? And is it related to raw materials? Or ability to transfer the ship to the customer?

Patrick Gregg

executive
#59

So I think the 2 major delays that we have experienced. One is the supply chain and logistics, so physically moving materials around the world. Things like engines often come from Germany and trying to get them shipped. Trying to find a container to put them in and a ship that will take them and ports that will process equipment and pallets and containers, as they need to be moved from 1 ship to another to get to their end location. And we've seen some big variations in time frames there. Some of the shorter-term stuff. So when you commission a vessel, you expect that some things will break. And traditionally, we've relied on airfreight for 1 or 2 critical items as we commission the vessel. And we're finding that actually, it's quicker to put something in a container and get it there by sea rather than air freight because the planes just aren't flying at the minute. And so that's had quite an impact. And then, of course, the people. So there are a very few specialist people we use when we commission vessels. I'm trying to move them around the world to get them in-country has been incredibly difficult. I'm really pleased to say that we've overcome a lot of that through technology. So online commissioning, virtual commissioning, being able to connect bones and computers to pieces of equipment, so engineers can dial-in and do diagnostics from the other side of the world has been incredibly impressive and might actually be an opportunity for us to do business in a different way going forward. But for some tasks, it's physically needed people to be in site. And we've had to work with the supply chain to: a, find people to send; and b, find people that are happy to quarantine sometimes twice. When they enter the country, they're going to and when they return to their home country. So it's put time and cost into it. But I think you'll see from the deliveries we had in the half, we've done a really good job of making that happen, albeit slightly delayed from where we originally anticipated.

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