Baxter International Inc. (BAX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

February 26, 2020

New York Stock Exchange US Health Care Health Care Equipment and Supplies conference_presentation 26 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Danielle Antalffy

analyst
#1

Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us. I'm Danielle Antalffy, one of the senior medtech analysts here at SVB Leerink. And very lucky to have Baxter International with us, CFO, Jay Saccaro; Head of Investor Relations, Clare Trachtman. So we're going to go right into a fireside chat format, I think. Unless, Jay, do you want to sort of set up the framework of where Baxter is?

James Saccaro

executive
#2

Yes. Maybe we can make a few comments to start it off.

Danielle Antalffy

analyst
#3

Okay.

James Saccaro

executive
#4

It's very -- thanks again for the invitation. It's always nice to see you out here in New York, Danielle. I think this is probably maybe the fifth year in a row that we've done this conference with you. And while we've had a lot of change, some of the fundamental aspects of what we're doing, I would say the majority of them, really remain the same. Our story has been about the mission of the company: to save and sustain the lives of the patients that we serve, but really doing so through accelerating the pace of innovation at the company, while also being economically efficient with the resources that we utilize. And I would say that over the last 5 years, you would probably have heard me talk a lot more about the efficiency of resources and the initiatives that we've undertaken to improve and enhance how efficient we are. And now the story changes in the sense that we are now able to talk about the impact of innovation in very significant and material ways on the revenue trajectory and the long-term prospects of our business. And while we've been focused on it the entire time, it's just that innovation at a health care company takes a while to bring to bear. And so we are so excited that 2020 marks a number of crucial launches for us. It will be the first year of Myxredlin, our premixed insulin drug. It will be the launch of our new pump platform, something we've been hard at work for 4 years. We have a number of BioSurgery launches in place. We launched THERANOVA in the U.S. So a lot of incredibly exciting things that we've been hard at work. But really to me, those are a symbol of this next phase of the transformation for Baxter. So we're excited to be here, excited to talk to you once again. But it's also nice to see -- and by the way, I will tell you, we will have a continued vigilance and focus on improving the economic efficiency of the company. That's always there. It's underlying. But what's so nice is to be able to supplement that with that, which is so critical for health care companies' innovations.

Danielle Antalffy

analyst
#5

Sure. And maybe we can touch on the 4Q '19 results, the pre-announcement that you issued back in January. And give us, if you could, a little bit of color of where were the primary drivers of that outperformance. I mean Med Delivery came in very strong. What drove that? What are the highlights you can give us? And how sustainable are those? I know you issued guidance as well so...

James Saccaro

executive
#6

A great quarter. And for us, I think the quarter was -- it certainly surpassed our expectations. Med Del, on a full year basis, we expected to grow 6%. But because of an outstanding performance in the fourth quarter, we ended the year actually at 7%. I mean I know that was a hotly debated and discussed number all year, so we're so pleased with that progress. In our Pharmaceuticals business, we had great performance in compounding outside the U.S., along with a number of drugs within the U.S. in terms of premixed products. So another very solid performance coming from our Pharmaceuticals business. And then all year, we saw the benefit of some competitor challenges with supply in our BioSurgery business. But I will also say we had excellent commercial execution from our BioSurgery team. So in areas like FLOSEAL and RECOTHROM, continued strong performance in that business. When you couple all of that with steadiness from the renal business, which is a very solid engine for Baxter, it ends up being a tremendous quarter. So how sustainable is that? Look, we're not forecasting 9% growth. We're not -- that's not -- our end markets are growing 3% to 4%. And we believe with innovation, we can add 100 basis points to that, to 4% to 5% in 2020. That's kind of what we've guided to. And I think for us, that steady, predictable, solid growth is really what you can count on from Baxter as opposed to the outsized growth that we saw in Q4. But having said that, we always want to position ourselves to take advantage of opportunities that arise. And so there were some onetime things that occurred in Q4 that benefited us, the most notable, probably we saw some prebuying of IV solutions heading into the flu season by certain distributors. So that was maybe a $10 million benefit in our IV business, but again, it was just great to see. And remember with our Medication Delivery business, a lot of that was forecasted and anticipated throughout the course of the year. We had a very sort of back-end loaded cadence. And so to be able to deliver and exceed that, it was a record pump quarter for Baxter. We never sold as many pumps in -- on a full year basis, but then certainly, Q4 was an absolute standout for us. So it was really nice to see that. And frankly, it's a -- it basically gives us confidence in the technology that people really like it, but also in the execution capability that we've set up as we head into 2020.

Danielle Antalffy

analyst
#7

Can we follow up on the pump comment? Because one of your competitors is facing in FDA a delay in their pump offering. So just curious about how you can execute upon that and turn that to your advantage, if you see that as an opportunity for -- because pump cycles are relatively long. Like how do we think about that?

James Saccaro

executive
#8

Sure. We were excited about pumps in 2020 for really 2 reasons. One is we saw a great success with Spectrum IQ, what we call our Version 9 of the Spectrum pump, which included 2-way wireless connectivity. That has been incredibly well received in the marketplace. And we saw a great pipeline buildup in 2019. And the pipeline gave us confidence in 2020, certainly in the first half prior to the launch of the new pump platform. The new pump platform is something that, for the first time, puts us on a level playing field with everybody in the marketplace. Because prior to the new pump platform, we would sell a large volume pump, which is really the workhorse that hospitals use, but we would have nothing else to go with that, okay? So if you wanted to buy a Baxter pump, necessarily, you had to turn to a competitor for a syringe and a PCA pump, patient-controlled analgesia pump. By the way, virtually all hospitals have all 3. And there are real benefits from a simplification standpoint, a standardization standpoint, to have one platform at a hospital. We didn't have that. So for me, I've been excited for pumps for years, waiting for 2020 for the launch of the large volume pump plus the syringe pump. That will be followed 6 to 9 months later by a PCA pump. Our pumps now sit with the FDA. We're working through questions with the FDA. We are -- and by the way, we recently had an approval from the FDA, so we have familiarity with how to get through this process. So we feel good about that and it's something that we're working hard to close out and meet our expectations to launch kind of in the middle of the year. So that's all great. The fact of the matter is one of our competitor has had some issues with the commercialization of their pump, some issues with the FDA. And so does that change the landscape materially? Look, pumps are a very sticky market. The reality is we replace pumps -- hospitals replace pumps every roughly 7 to 10 years, meaning in a given year, 10 to 13 market share points come up. And we roughly own 24% of the market share of the -- so we're replacing -- of the 10 to 13, 24% of those are our own house accounts. So it's a sticky market. I don't know that this is going to be some seismic shift, but it's -- we're going to be hard at work doing what we do, which is selling a great pump platform in 2020.

Danielle Antalffy

analyst
#9

Yes. Okay. Another sort of big product launch or at least one that people are very focused on in 2020 is THERANOVA. And -- where are you with that product, with securing reimbursement and getting a little bit more visibility about how meaningful of a contributor that product could be? And how quickly?

James Saccaro

executive
#10

Sure. So THERANOVA is a dialyzer, which we believe provides differentiated outcomes from conventional dialyzers. And there's a whole host of data that we've prepared and shared that conveys this. And so there has been limited innovation supporting end-stage renal disease in the last many years. And so we're thrilled that THERANOVA represents a meaningful step forward. With the add-on payment that was recently approved, we have now submitted for our eligibility criteria as of February 1. And we expect approval sometime between -- or inclusion at some point between July and September, by the time ESRD legislation is finalized, which would go into effect in 2021. And so we are where we expected to be. Over the long term, I believe this could represent a significant opportunity for us. What this -- what the inclusion would allow us is basically a 2-year add-on payment to the bundle. And so it really would provide the right economic incentives for the clinics to adopt and embrace what is, we think, a really unique technology. And then it's up to us to say, "Okay, how do you guide the data package and make the story that makes this even more sustainable than that?" Because if this is 2 years, and we're talking about a headwind in 2023, I don't think we've achieved what we hoped to with this. And so the work begins on how do we work it. Get first, secure the 2-year add-on payment, then secure the long-term data package. While you do that, think very carefully about how you're going to add capacity to support the market opportunity.

Danielle Antalffy

analyst
#11

Worst-case scenario, if you don't secure the add-on payment, what happens with THERANOVA?

James Saccaro

executive
#12

Without the add-on payment, look, we have a very modest amount in our long-range plan for 2023. I don't think it would be a downside to that, but I don't think it would be a significant upside. So this -- the package that we've put in place, we believe we'll achieve our end goals. But it's important that we do that because the reality is without an add-on to the bundle, the economic incentives make it really challenging to divert spending from the bundle to new, more expensive, admittedly, technologies.

Danielle Antalffy

analyst
#13

Yes. Okay. And then on the kidney initiative, so where are we with that? When are we going to get more color around how that's going to play out over the next few years? And maybe talk a little bit about how the kidney initiative changes factors -- I'm not asking you to change a long-range plan today, but just qualitatively thinking about how additive it could be.

James Saccaro

executive
#14

So qualitatively, what the government has discussed is a significant increase in home penetration. Today, home penetration is in the kind of 13-ish percent range. And the government has talked about taking that to multiples over the next 7 years. And that's a big deal for a business, which is $500 million for us today, but it could provide a structural tailwind for our U.S. PD business. We believe we've got the right technologies, including a telemedicine component to our latest cyclers, that really allow us to give patients a lot of comfort in the home. So there's a lot of momentum behind this. And with the right catalyst from a reimbursement standpoint, it could be a game changer. And so we feel very good about the long-term prospects, if implemented. But what I would say is if not implemented, we feel good about the long-term prospects of this business in any case. Why? Because we've seen PD patient growth, for the last several years, very robust in the U.S. In many cases, we've seen -- we've reported high single-digit quarters, even double-digit quarters in the U.S. patient growth because of 2 things. One is we've put a lot of work into the supply chain, ensuring consistency of supply. So that's one thing that I think has structurally changed from 2013 to '14 to today. But the second thing is my comment regarding the technologies. I believe now, the technology that we have, from a cycler standpoint, becomes an enabler or a catalyst versus a hindrance. And if you think about it, HOMECHOICE is a great cycler. But our HOMECHOICE, which was the backbone of the U.S. business, had been around for 20 years with no integration between clinic and patient. So there was limited oversight for patients operating in the home environment other than their once-a-month trip to the clinic. And that can be very isolating. So we changed that, get the consistency of supply, improve that to the best of our ability. And all of a sudden, we've seen great patient growth and increases in penetration despite largely flat or very low single-digit growth in ESRD patients, generally speaking. So I think we've got the right catalyst for growth in that business in any case, but of course, AAKHI would be an accelerant. Now the question is, "Well, what is the likelihood of AAKHI occurring and under what time frame?" We're optimistic. We have said April. It's unclear exactly when this is all going to shake out and in what form. As you know, predicting things in Washington is really challenging. And I think that we're optimistic that this will get done in the right way. But at the end of the day, if it does, that's great. If it does not, that's also okay, because the business is a very robust one. I don't know if you would add anything about that?

Danielle Antalffy

analyst
#15

Yes. I mean it just -- so on the PD side of things, I mean some ex U.S. countries have PD penetration significantly higher than the U.S. Clare, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think in the 40% range...

Clare Trachtman

executive
#16

Yes. That's in some countries, yes.

Danielle Antalffy

analyst
#17

So is that the right way to think about this, with or without AAKHI going from 13% to 40% in the U.S.? Are the barriers just too high?

James Saccaro

executive
#18

There are countries that have incredibly high PD penetration rates: Hong Kong, Thailand, north of 50% in some cases; Mexico, incredibly high. In those countries, the governments have typically made the decision to promote PD first. And so in that case, you see very high levels of adoption. Now there's a lot of benefits to PD because -- think about, if you want to expand the treatment of dialysis patients in a given country, in order to do so, you have to invest in significant bricks and mortar, significant capital investment to do so from an HD standpoint. Clinics are expensive to build, and then you have to fill them. And once they're filled, to add an incremental patient, you need a new clinic, which again is a very significant investment. PD is much more modular and capital-efficient from the provider standpoint because there's no -- there's really nothing required to add a patient in the home. So I think there are a lot of benefits to it, but -- and I think that's in part why governments look at it as a very attractive mechanism for treating end-stage renal disease. The other reason, of course, being that these patients can lead, for the most part, an uninterrupted life in a sense that if you're an HD patient, 3 times a week, you're in the clinic for several hours. With commute time, highly disruptive. PD is done nocturnally, right, so I think it's -- I think there are a lot of other benefits. So let's see.

Danielle Antalffy

analyst
#19

Yes. So maybe the way to summarize that would be with AAKHI, if that's implemented, maybe we could get to those kinds of 40%, 50% level, so that is a little bit -- is tougher.

James Saccaro

executive
#20

Yes. And look, this is a -- like it's a 7-year trial that we're talking about in half the clinics in the U.S. So if the penetration rate doubled over the next 7 years, that's great. So -- but it's one of these things where, I think, the home setting, it's a great place for PD -- for dialysis to take place. Let's see where this goes from here.

Danielle Antalffy

analyst
#21

Okay. Fair. Let's shift gears and talk about operating margins. So guided a little bit below the long-range plan for 2020, but I don't think people were very surprised about that. You've been telegraphing. But what has changed versus issuing the initial LRP guidance when you did? And does this lower 2020 guide imply a change to the guidance for 23% to 24% by 2023?

James Saccaro

executive
#22

Okay. So let's talk about the 2020 guidance first. You're correct, the midpoint has come down roughly 100 basis points. And there really are -- there's just a few factors that contributed to that. One is in looking at our solutions business in the U.S., we've always been really focused on supporting our customers' long-term needs. And as part of that, we entered into a series of long-term agreements for the vast majority of our IV solutions business in the U.S. And there were a number of features to those agreements. Of course, there's minimum volume commitments. There's also supply guarantees on our part, which is a real differentiator. But as we looked at the landscape, in order to kind of work through the long-term -- these long-term agreements, of course, some incentives are required. And so there was some pricing that took place as part of these agreements. And what I can tell you is I'm happy to make that trade-off, because for us, we don't want -- we don't need this business to be a huge business for us in terms of growth going forward. But what we don't want is it to be a highly volatile business. Of course, you'll have things like the flu season and this and that, that drive investment, drive purchasing and so on. But you don't want to have other sources of volatility in this business. So we made a trade-off. That was one element that lowered our margin just a little bit. The second area relates to sales and marketing investments. We've got a lot of exciting initiatives underway. We have AAKHI that we have to prepare for. We have THERANOVA that we have to prepare for. Because the reality is the last thing we want to do is underinvest in the THERANOVA opportunity, either from a clinical standpoint, from a market preparation standpoint, from a market launch, from a sales -- we also have the richest pipeline in the history of the company all coming to bear. And so making sure we have the adequate sales and marketing investments in place is another crucial underpinning of the investments that we're making in 2020. And finally, one of the things that I would say was disappointing in 2019 is we did have some supply chain challenges. We talked about manufacturing in our Alabama facility and dialyzer challenges as a result of that. And so we were very rigorous as we went through our operating plan this year to ensure that across the board, to the best of our ability, we will avoid any such situations. Now unfortunately, there's no guarantees in life, right? And so you only can do your best in terms of preparation, but we just wanted to make sure we had the adequate investments in place. And so those are the 3 factors that, I would say, sort of changed our margin profile just a little bit. But I would -- those are all good investments that I think sustain the long term of the business. Now as it relates to 2023, stay tuned. We don't want to update guidance at this point. We haven't commented one way or the other on 2023. We're going to host an Investor Day in September. Everybody in the room is invited to join us in Chicago. We'd love to have you all there.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#23

[ New York ].

James Saccaro

executive
#24

We've tried New York. But we're -- as I said at the beginning, we're very focused on economic efficiency of the company and working on the margin. And I think we were able to secure a hotel room -- or a conference room at incredibly low rates. And so we were thrilled with that. So we'd love to have you come join us. We're going to exhibit all the innovation. And we will also update the 2023 outlook at that time.

Danielle Antalffy

analyst
#25

Chicago in September is not [ winter ].

James Saccaro

executive
#26

No.

Clare Trachtman

executive
#27

No.

Danielle Antalffy

analyst
#28

It were January, then that would be different.

Clare Trachtman

executive
#29

And it might be Deerfield, too, so. Let's not even go to Chicago.

Danielle Antalffy

analyst
#30

So just a follow-up on the sales and marketing investments that you talked about. So you mentioned things in the pipeline. Are those that you're putting investments behind, those were part of the long-range plan though, right? So are they accelerating faster than you saw it? Is it just a higher level of investment than you had expected?

James Saccaro

executive
#31

So some are new things, right? THERANOVA, in terms of the likely -- that was not included in our long-range plan in any meaningful way. And so that would represent -- and by the way, it could be a -- if we have a 2022 cliff to '23 because of a 2-year sunset on our add-on payment, well, that's a -- so my thing is let us ensure we have the right investment to get this part of the bundle in a more permanent manner. And so that's a new thing. AAKHI, we've not really mentally contemplated in our long-range plan previously, but we want to make sure we have the right investments to support this in all facets in 2020. But other things, look, the pump pipeline, the last thing we want to do is risk a launch because we're being stingy on sales and marketing expense. And so some things we've updated and refreshed our perspective on. So it's a combination of factors.

Danielle Antalffy

analyst
#32

Okay. One thing that's transpired since early January is COVID-19 and the -- and coronavirus. And you guys have pretty significant -- a pretty significant sales presence in China. So -- but you also sell hospitals the more hospital supplies-type of devices that would be necessary, one would think, to treat. So how do we think about the potential impact to Baxter from COVID-19?

James Saccaro

executive
#33

At this point, it's difficult to say because there are puts and takes in terms of its impact on our performance. And also, the overall scope of what we're talking about is still unclear. I'd recently -- I think I read this morning that San Francisco declared a state of emergency related to coronavirus, which was...

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#34

[ Related to corona, in general ]?

James Saccaro

executive
#35

It might have been in general -- a general theory. I don't know. But -- so the ultimate impact of coronavirus, it's not clear how widespread this is going to be. So let me share a few things in terms of these puts and takes. The takes are, look, we're very reliant on China suppliers for a variety of our products. Also, people are not going to hospitals in China for any elected procedures. So things like our anesthesia gases business in China will suffer as a result of this. That's a downside. So those are things that could be very -- that could be disruptive to us, the former more disruptive than the latter. So the supply chain impact could be more, depending on how sustained this is. Now on the upside, to the extent that people do go to hospitals as a result of this, our acute business will benefit. One of the things I love about our acute business is that it literally saves patients' lives because their kidneys are failing, and we are there at the moment of need to address a critically important need. And so we're seeing strong performance in that business, and that will continue. IVs as well. So IV bags is another business that will benefit from this. So those are -- there are puts and takes. It will depend on how this goes. Of course, depending on the global nature of this virus and how severe it is. Does it start to impact our manufacturing operations? It's an open question. So this is a great uncertainty for us, and it's something that we will have to -- we're going to -- we're watching on a daily basis as you can imagine. Would you add anything to that?

Clare Trachtman

executive
#36

[ No ].

Danielle Antalffy

analyst
#37

Well, with that, we have to wrap up. We just hit time. So thank you, Jay and Clare, so much.

James Saccaro

executive
#38

Thank you, Danielle. Nice to see you.

Clare Trachtman

executive
#39

Thanks for the time.

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