BeOne Medicines AG (ONC) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 11, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Vikram Purohit
analystOkay. Thank you, everyone. Appreciate that. With that, happy to have with me Mr. Mehrdad Mobasher, CMO of Hematology from BeiGene; and Mark Lanasa, CMO of Solid Tumors for BeiGene. Thank you both for joining us.
Mehrdad Mobasher
executiveAppreciate it.
Mark Lanasa
executiveAppreciate it.
Vikram Purohit
analystBefore we get into any pipeline-related and Brukinsa-related Q&A, I thought it might be good just to level set for the audience, if you could both just provide a quick overview of what you think some of the key inflection points have been across your respective areas of work at BeiGene for this year?
Mehrdad Mobasher
executiveSo maybe I'll start first with hematology. So with hematology, this year, we have really shown that we are really one of the global emerging leaders in hematology drug development. We started the year fresh out of releasing the data from ALPINE study, which was our head-to-head study of Brukinsa versus ibrutinib in CLL. And we released the data as a late-breaker abstract at ASH end of last year, simultaneously published in New England Journal of Medicine. And that led to an approval early this year. So we had our CLL approval earlier this year, which was our fourth approval with Brukinsa. And with the totality of data, this year, we have really cemented Brukinsa as the BTK inhibitor of choice. We're not done with working though. We continue to work with this asset. This year, we submitted and now we recently announced that we have an sNDA pending for follicular lymphoma, which can potentially be our fifth indication. So we have the largest number of indications for any BTK inhibitor. Other than the studies that are ongoing with Brukinsa, we are moving the rest of our pipeline fast, very forward and what -- the way that we are putting our pipeline assets that are purposefully designed for this. We'll continue to cement our leadership again in CLL and also other B-cell malignancies, whether it's with fixed durations or the way that we are thinking about sequencing to remain leaders in these malignancies. And also, we are increasing our footprint outside the cell malignancies that we have historically been focusing on with the number of patients that we have enrolled this year and the data that we have released. We are entering AML, MDS, multiple myeloma with our BCL-2 inhibitor, [ and our BTK ] degrader. They have potential to go to more aggressive lymphomas like Richter's transformation or large cell lymphoma.
Vikram Purohit
analystGreat. And actually, I might have forgotten to read a disclosure statement at the start. So let me just do that now. For important disclosures, please visit Morgan Stanley research disclosure website at www.morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. And if you have any questions, please reach out to your Morgan Stanley sales representative. Mark, go ahead, please sorry about that.
Mark Lanasa
executiveNo problem. And thank you for the opportunity to be here this morning. We're very glad to be able to present at this important conference. So it's been an exciting year for solid tumors as well. First, I would say that we continue to have great success with our foundational molecule, which is our PD-1 inhibitor, tocilizumab. We have announced successful Phase III studies in the ITT analysis of frontline gastric chemo-combo and HER2 negative, recently presented frontline data for extensive stage small cell lung cancer at World Lung Congress that are positive in front line there. And we have also announced positive frontline -- I'm sorry, positive data in our 315 study with tocilizumab, which is early-stage neoadjuvant, adjuvant non-small cell lung cancer. So very happy about the great progress and success we're seeing there, and we're working hard to [indiscernible] successful studies into global regulatory successes and patient access. Second, we're making really great progress with our next wave immuno-oncology portfolio. We have a number of TIGIT abstracts that we look forward to sharing at the upcoming ESMO but also making good progress with other targets, including LAG-3, TIM-3 and others. We have exciting new targets in the immuno-oncology space, including CCR8, HPK1 and DGK Zeta. And then last, we recently had an R&D Day where we disclosed a number of new targets that we'll be bringing into the clinic over the next 12 to 15 months, and we think we have a number of really compelling medicines that will enter the clinic, including a selective inhibitor of CDK4, our first solid tumor bivalent grader targeting eGFR, the KRAS inhibitor and our first internal ADCs targeting B7-H3 as well as other targets.
Vikram Purohit
analystGreat. Great. So let's do this. Maybe we can talk about hematology first, and we can go to solid tumors. Within hematology, I think the key areas we should touch on are Brukinsa obviously, [indiscernible] and then maybe the BTK degrader as well. So for Brukinsa first, you alluded to how the launch has been going, especially with the indication expansion to CLL/SLL. I'd be curious to hear any feedback you received from this field on from both, doctors who are prescribing actively the therapy and what's motivated them to choose Brukinsa versus other BTK inhibitors, and then also on the flip side, physicians that aren't quite at that level yet, what's been holding certain physicians back from switching from maybe Calquence and Imbruvica to Brukinsa, if you received that sort of feedback.
Mehrdad Mobasher
executiveGot it. Got it. So we are closely working with the physician community from my side, more probably the KOL community, but I'm closely in touch with my colleagues in medical affairs and commercial who talk to everybody who treats cancer patients. And the feedback has been positive, which was what we were expecting, particularly after we released the ALPINE data. And again, when we put the totality of the data, not just in CLL but with all those other indications that across the board, efficacy has been pretty impressive to them and also particularly safety that Brukinsa was a lot safer than what they were used to, what particularly when they were using ibrutinib. We have two head-to-head studies. And the outline was the second one that read out, so given real confidence in the safety that they can see in their patients. So with the CLL approval, obviously, we see that they are using that more for CLL. And it can -- it has led to more usage even in the other diseases, because once physicians start using one drug, they're more comfortable with using it in other diseases as well, the other indications that we have. So those who are using it are very comfortable with what they're seeing in terms of safety. They're very impressed with efficacy. We often talk about PFS being the gold standard for CLL. But the depth of response that they even see the bookings is something that they are closely communicating to me. And from the flip side, people who haven't been using Brukinsa yet, we know that physicians -- it's hard to make them change their habits. And ibrutinib was a drug that they have been using for many years. So they need a little bit more time and a little more hands-on experience. Now with CLL that's already using it in CLL, but it will take time for them to make it their PTK of choice for all of their diseases and CLL. But again, we are confident that, that will happen.
Vikram Purohit
analystGot it. Got it. And you've mentioned previously that updated ALPINE data could be presented at ASH 2023. What should we expect to learn there? And what are you hoping that this data set can further help derisk about the profile for the molecule?
Mehrdad Mobasher
executiveSure. Let's talk about the ALPINE data that we showed last year. So ALPINE was a well-designed, well-conducted study, and that analysis was a planned analysis based on number of events. So it was triggered at the time that it was triggered, which was 29.6 months of follow-up, which in relapsed/refractory CLL is a very meaningful follow-up time, and we showed significant progression-free survival and actually really important safety difference between Brukinsa and ibrutinib. One of the things, again, physicians always want more follow-up and all that and other similar study that acalabrutinib did, they had a non-inferiority study in a subset of patients, and they released their data at 48-month follow-up. So we thought it's the best option for us is to continue the study and continue to have a longer follow-up. So that's what you're going to see at ASH. And I'm confident, given the shape of the curve from the beginning, when we looked at the ALPINE curve that we showed at ASH, they separated very early on, and they continued very nicely and smooth. So with more follow, we expect the same pattern to continue.
Vikram Purohit
analystGot it. Okay. Any questions on Brukinsa before we move on to the other parts of the hematology program -- pipeline, excuse me. Okay. Let's move on to sonorotoclax. So question one, how do you think sonorotoclax is designed to be a differentiated BCL-2 inhibitor versus somebody others that are currently under evaluation across the industry?
Mehrdad Mobasher
executiveYes. So I think everybody here is aware of the Brukinsa story, how it was designed actually by our chemists to have properties that made it a BTK inhibitor of choice or a superior BTK inhibitor. And I have to give a lot of kudos to our chemists. They took the same approach to BCL-2. So BCL-2 was a known target for actually many, many years, and it was not druggable. And they looked into all the unmet needs of how we can target that molecule. And they ended up with sonorotoclax, and it has several aspects. Number one, it's very potent. The drug is much more potent compared to venetoclax and all those other BCL-2 inhibitors that we now see in early development. And we know that the potency of the drug that you use for diseases, it's actually very important. We did some preclinical models. We have shown that in wild-type BCL-2, we are 14x more potent than venetoclax. And when we took the drug into the clinic, we used a PD marker as comparing venetoclax and sonorotoclax. And we saw sonorotoclax is 5x more potent than venetoclax. That gives us the chance to -- when we increase the dose with a safe dose to have higher exposure of the BCL-2 inhibition. So that's, I think, an important part of the drug. It's selective. It's only selective versus BCL-2 self compared to other members of the BCL-2 family. And important characteristics that this drug has is a PK characteristics. And we know sonorotoclax has a short half-life. The half-life is about 4 to 5 hours, which when we think about some of the toxicities that we see in the class becomes important. Basically, the drug comes in the blood -- peripheral blood and then leaves, venetoclax has a half life of 26 hours and accumulates in the blood. And sonorotoclax doesn't accumulate in the blood. And that's why with venetoclax, you see all these labor-intensive lab checks, our 0, our 8, the next day and also the toxicity in terms of the worry about GLS tumor less the syndrome continues and also neutropenia and all that. So that's why this molecule was designed such that we don't have to do all those labor-intensive work. So it becomes a little bit more usable. So every physician, academic or nonacademic in any setting can use this drug, which is unfortunately something that venetoclax currently doesn't have. So we -- that's why we think our drug has the best-in-class opportunities from the safety that we are predicting for it to have and also potency that we think it will lead to improved efficacy. And I'll say this and I'll finish that we have also enrolled more than 500 patients across the board, including more than 100 patients in CLL. So a lot of things that we were thinking are panning out.
Vikram Purohit
analystOkay. Great. That's a good segue into the next question then. So you're starting first-line CLL/SLL program by the end of the year. Could you just kind of walk us through the design and endpoints of that study and then highlight -- you alluded to this, highlight maybe some of the clinical data points you've seen so far that gave you conviction that this is a high conviction kind of program for the company.
Mehrdad Mobasher
executiveMaybe I'll talk from the second question. So we were monitoring our data closely similar to how we typically do these studies. We had monotherapy with sonorotoclax in relapsed/refractory CLL. Then we had a combination of sonorotoclax broken in relapsed/refractory CLL, then we started a cohort of frontline CLL with our combination. And we chose two doses to testing our frontline. So that's why I'm saying, we have had more than 100-plus patients, just 100 patients in frontline CLL. And what we saw from early on, even from monotherapy is that we have early and deep responses. And by that, I mean we have complete remissions, which is kind of a surrogate endpoint in CLL that correlates to the final outcome and also early eradication of MRD that is scientifically accepted to be an indicator of longer outcome and progression-free survival. Same thing with the combination. And when we compare our doublet whether versus E-class doublets and also other doublets that are available and venetoclax is the only drug that actually has MRD negativity, we think, again, our responses are deeper. Our MRD eradication is deeper and also come as in very early, which is also, we know that correlates with the outcome. So after we enrolled this 100 patients, we have shown 0 progressions or progression-free survival at the current follow-up, which is relatively short, not very short, it's 100%. So with all of that, we felt comfortable that we can go and do a head-to-head study in frontline CLL. The frontline CLL study that we have is actually a pretty simple design. It's 1 year of our doublet for [indiscernible] plus sonorotoclax versus venetoclax and obinutuzumab, which is the most potent and pretty much the only widely accepted regimen as a comparator. The primary endpoint of the study is progression-free survival, which is a gold standard for CLL. We are collecting MRD as an important secondary endpoint, and of course, OS and responses and the stratification factors that affect the outcome of the CLL patients are being used. The study is truly global. Of course, U.S., Europe is a big part of the study, Asia Pacific and even Latin America.
Vikram Purohit
analystGot it. Got it. Okay. That's great. Maybe just to be mindful of time, let's pivot to the BTK degrader? My first question for you there is, how is this molecule potentially differentiated from other BTK degraders, excuse me, in development from companies like Nurix? Like what are the kind of the unique structural features that you think of this degrader that are worth keeping in mind?
Mehrdad Mobasher
executiveSure. So one background, the degrader, this we call it CDAC in our company, is a platform that was built in-house. So this was the first degrader that kind of graduated from our research to clinic now quite a while ago. So that's the one thing. It's homegrown. We think it's the most advanced in the field. We showed at R&D Day that between the two studies that we have, we have enrolled more than 50 patients. The MOA is becoming very exciting. So there's a lot of excitement about this study and is enrolling very fast. So compared to a lot of competitors, we are a lot ahead of them, a lot more intense. Nurix has two molecules, the first molecule that we presented data at ASH last year has IMiD activity. And with the data that they showed last year, we had some significant toxicity, including high-grade fatigue, hypertension and higher rates of atrial fibrillation that across the board, we think it's because of that IMiD activity. They have a second molecule that doesn't have IMiD activity, so it's more similar to our drug. So [ ASH ] doesn't have IMiD activity, it has enrolled 50-plus patients, so a lot advanced compared to their second molecule. So far, safety and efficacy, we have been very happy with what we have seen.
Vikram Purohit
analystGot it. Got it. And each of these assets, Brukinsa obviously currently approved in CLL/SLL. On [ sonorotoclax ] you're starting a study there soon. You mentioned that the BTK CDAC could also be purposed for one segment of the population there. How do you see these three agents kind of fitting into the treatment paradigm within CLL versus each other and kind of other therapies that are out there or could be out there by the time these therapies are approved? So multi-part question, but in general, where do you see this kind of all coming together?
Mehrdad Mobasher
executiveSure. So we actually see ourselves as a leader in CLL. I mean after the data, the superiority data in ALPINE, the only BTK inhibitor that has superiority data against another BTK inhibitor, we think that's a BTK of choice. That has given us this leadership in CLL. And we really want to strengthen that leadership in CLL. So there is a part of patients that will continue to get BTK monotherapy in the front line. BTK monotherapy currency is the main treatment of patients with CLL. There is a desire within the field to have a time-limited therapy, fixed duration therapy. And that comes from physicians, a lot of patients, particularly post-COVID. They want a 6 duration treatment and be done. So we are giving them data options with some sonorotoclax, and BCL-2 inhibitors historically having the only option with anything that you added to them that can bring the disease level so low that you can do curation treatment. So that's what we think our frontline treatment paradigm will look in foreseeable future. And then patients who go relapse, depending if they got BTK alone even if they got chemotherapy, those older treatment options that some people have gotten before and they're so fine or they even got our combination or BCL-2 inhibitor in the front line, they have other options with our assets. Whether it's sonorotoclax in combination with an anti-CD20, repeating the same option that they got the doublet that we gave them in the front line or degrader alone or degrader with some sonorotoclax. And we can actually even think about the third option with the same thing. So the way that we are really leading our efforts in CLL is that we think through the journey of CLL for patients from their first line all the way to the relapses because unfortunately, we haven't cured CLL yet, they will be on a BeiGene drug.
Vikram Purohit
analystSure. That's helpful. Final question for you. On the BTK CDAC. Just remind us of timelines, kind of what can we expect to learn over the next 1 to 2 years in terms of the data?
Mehrdad Mobasher
executiveWe'll present some data at ASH. We think it's a drug that we achieved that proof of concept very early on, even with our PD markers. And that's why we have been aggressive more sites. We have been enrolling really well within our dose escalation. It's not your typical 3 plus 3 dose isolation that you have to wait for a long time. So we are backfilling, that way, our numbers are bigger. And we think next year in 2024, we can start at potentially pivotal expansion cohorts. So this study initially was designed for two cohorts, specifically for relapsed/refractory mantle cell and relapsed/refractory CLL. Now we are increasing the size of those two cohorts, they will initiate in 2024 and then, we'll see how the data go.
Vikram Purohit
analystGot it. Okay. Great. Any questions on hematology before we turn over to Solid Tumors? Okay. Mark, let's turn over to you. Maybe the first question in everyone's mind is, given the TIGIT program you have in your pipeline is there's recently an announcement from Roche regarding the second interim analysis from Skyscraper 1. Would just love to kind of get your take on the announcement and what do you think it means if anything for ociperlimab.
Mark Lanasa
executiveGreat. Thank you again. So the recent accidental disclosure, I'm not exactly sure how to describe it as Skyscraper 1 interim analysis to data, we believe, is fairly compelling additional evidence of the incremental benefit of TIGIT on top of PD-L1 and non-small cell lung cancer. So at this point across Sky 1, CITYSCAPE, our internal data that we've shared and other external sources, we have a high belief that there is that incremental benefit. Now the question ultimately is, is that benefit going to be statistically significant? That remains to be seen for Skyscraper 1. It will be viewed as clinically meaningful. Now I think in the Sky 1 data, with the delta at the median of 5.5 months, that will be viewed as clinically meaningful. However, because the atezolizumab monotherapy arm underperformed, the question will be how does atezo plus [indiscernible] measure up against pembrolizumab monotherapy. And therefore, we believe that in our AdvanTIG-302 study, we made the right design decision to have pembrolizumab monotherapy as a control arm, which is the acknowledged standard of care for PD-L1 high non-small cell lung cancer, particularly here in the United States. So that study continues to enroll well. We should -- we're on track to complete accrual by the end of the year with a subsequent event or an readout.
Vikram Purohit
analystGot it. Okay. Great. And you actually recently regained full rights to your TIGIT program after a mutual decision with Novartis to return the program back to BeiGene. Is there an appetite to continue to seek a partner for this program? Or is it at this point, a fully in-house program that you hope to prosecute completely independently?
Mark Lanasa
executiveSo I can't really speak to business development strategy, but what I'll say is that we're delighted to have regained the global rights to ociperlimab.
Vikram Purohit
analystGot it. Okay. Fair enough. Just taking a step back, just recap for us what we can expect to learn from this program overall in the next 6 to 12 months, because you obviously have multiple Phase II programs currently underway. So I would just love to hear about what you think the data flow could look like here?
Mark Lanasa
executiveYes. So our overall development strategy with our TIGIT ociperlimab, was that, again, in the context of a very strong Phase II study from Roche, the CITYSCAPE study and having supportive in-house Phase I single-arm data that we quickly move to a Phase III in the PD-L1 high population. That's our 302 study. However, in other tumor types, we believe that we are able to quickly on a favorable cost basis, deliver randomized Phase II study. So we could have high-quality data to inform subsequent Phase III decisions. We initiated five studies, all relatively concurrently. So we're getting the data now relatively concurrently. We're going to be able to share data at this year's ESMO for frontline hepatocellular carcinoma and PD-L1 or PD-L1 naive cervix cancer and esophageal cancer. So we're excited to share those data. And then we should also be able to talk about our next steps vis-a-vis subsequent investment decisions in two additional Phase III studies and new indications.
Vikram Purohit
analystGot it. And just to kind of frame expectations there for some of these Phase II data sets coming out later this year. How would you guide people to interpret the results when they come out? What would you consider to be a strong outcome versus kind of a less optimal one?
Mark Lanasa
executiveSo for the randomized studies, these are all, say, 100 to 120 patient studies. There's a little bit of variation. We are attempting to have our go decision based upon the combination of response rate and PFS. Now again, we're taking in the data as it's emerging. Sky 1 suggests that perhaps OS is the most compelling endpoint. Nevertheless, for these randomized data sets, we do think that we'll have confidence in whether we're able to see, again, a clinically meaningful improvement in both, response rate and progression-free survival. Tislelizumab is the control with or without standard of care across all three of those studies.
Vikram Purohit
analystGot it. Got it. Okay. Any questions on TIGIT? I had a couple more on other pipeline programs that I wanted to take a pause in case there's anything people wanted to ask on that program specifically. Okay. So you highlighted at your recent R&D Day, multiple different mechanisms that you're exploring, like CCR8 to LAG-3. So there's a lot in the early-stage IO pipeline. If I had to ask you to kind of take one area of particular kind of internal excitement across all these different mechanisms, which would those be?
Mark Lanasa
executiveSo of course, we're excited about everything that we bring into the clinic and want to explore it appropriately. We are -- similar to the story with TIGIT, we are now initiating a series of randomized Phase II studies and umbrella studies for the other co-checkpoints such as LAG-3, TIM-3 and others. But for something to focus on, we're particularly interested in the small molecule inhibitors of kinases downstream of the T-cell receptor. So that includes HPK1 and DGK, which is a recently announced target where we recently achieved our first human dose. We're seeing interesting data emerging with HPK1. We have not disclosed that data yet. We'll look to share some of that data next year, but we are seeing immunomodulatory effects with those molecules. We're very excited to see what we see with DGK Zeta as an alternate pathway downstream of the T-cell receptor.
Vikram Purohit
analystOkay. That's helpful to know. Maybe my final question for you here before we close out. You have a readout anticipated from the RATIONALE 315 study in the near term?
Mark Lanasa
executiveYes.
Vikram Purohit
analystJust guide us in terms of kind of what expectations are there, what you're hoping to see.
Mark Lanasa
executiveAs I alluded to before, RATIONALE 315 is a study in early-stage resectable non-small cell lung cancer, where patients receive chemo plus tislelizumab or randomized to receive either chemo with or without tislelizumab as neoadjuvant therapy that have surgery and then go on to adjuvant therapy, yes or no versus placebo. There are already benchmarking data sets that are out there. There have been other sponsors that have reported data in this setting. This is a study with co-primary endpoints of major pathologic response, which is measured at the time of surgery and then event-free survival as the ultimate type 2 event endpoint that conveys clinical benefit. So what we'll be sharing is the data for major pathologic response rate as well as the pathologic complete response rates. Again, there are benchmarking data sets that are out there, so while we discourage cross-trial comparisons, we acknowledged that the lens is that the data will be assessed in that context.
Vikram Purohit
analystGot it. Okay. Great. Any -- I'll do a final call for questions before we close out. We have around 15 to 20 seconds or so. No? All right. Well, in that case, I hope you all found this helpful. Thanks so much to both of you for being here. Really appreciate your time.
Mark Lanasa
executiveThank you.
Mehrdad Mobasher
executiveThank you.
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