Berkshire Hills Bancorp, Inc. (BBT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
May 18, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Nitin Mhatre
executiveGood morning, everyone. I'm Nitin Mhatre, CEO of Berkshire Bank. On behalf of all Berkshire Bankers and our Board of Directors, I will welcome you all to the strategic transformation launch where we'll provide you an overview of Berkshire's exciting strategic transformation plan or what we refer to as BEST. As a quick introduction, I joined Berkshire Bank about 4 months ago after spending 25 years in banking at Citibank and Webster Bank. During those 25 years, I've had the opportunity to build and work with strong teams to turn around, transform and grow business unit profitability and enhance shareholder value. I believe that my experience positions me well to work with my team at Berkshire Bank to sharpen Berkshire's strategic focus and create value for all stakeholders. Since the day I arrived, we've been working diligently and expeditiously on this transformational plan with a goal to significantly improve Berkshire's financial performance, while building on our purpose to cement our position as the leading socially responsible community bank in the markets we serve. Our BEST program has been built organically with input and commitments from senior leaders throughout our organization. Comprehensive financial analysis and modeling was done over the last 3 months with associated likelihood factors applied to each workstream of the program. Based on the work, we believe this program, by year 3, will generate about $70 million to $90 million of incremental pretax pre-provision net revenues or PPNR and deliver over 10% return on tangible common equity. Before we get started, I want to take a moment to thank our Board of Directors, management team and all our bankers for their collaboration in the development of BEST as well as their enthusiastic support for our journey ahead. I'm going to be joined a little later by many of my colleagues for the Q&A session, including our Chief Operating Officer, Sean Gray; Chief Financial Officer, Subhadeep Basu; Chief Risk Officer, Greg Lindenmuth; Head of Consumer Banking, Tami Gunsch; Head of Commercial Banking, George Bacigalupo; Head of Wealth Management, Kate Hersey; Chief Human Resource and Culture Officer, Jackie Courtwright and others. I'm going to work from the presentation that was uploaded on our Investor Relations website, and you can see it on the screen as well. You can also see a question message box on your screen, and you may enter a question at any time during this presentation. Please note that this presentation contains forward-looking statements as well as non-GAAP financial measures. Associated legal disclaimers are included on Slide 2. Some of you may have heard my observations as the new CEO during the first quarter earnings call. And I want to highlight some of those again, as they're integral to our BEST initiatives. Berkshire has a strong core, which is its 175-year history of being a purpose-driven community-dedicated bank that truly cares about its customers, bankers and the communities that we serve. We have many talented bankers who know our markets well and have built strong relationships with customers, sponsors, COIs and communities in those markets. And just the same, our noncustomer-facing bankers are passionate about delivering high-quality experience to all our customers. With the new leadership team and promotions in the key roles, there's a renewed sense of energy and focus across the organization. We are collectively driven to becoming a shining example of a socially responsible and commercially successful institution. And we share a sense of urgency to enhance shareholder value, in part through more effective capital allocation in support of strategic choices that drive growth in key customer segments, elevate our customer satisfaction levels and improve our return on capital and thereby boosting shareholder value and creating a virtuous cycle of reinvestment and enhanced shareholder distributions. Slide 4 shows our company at a glance. Berkshire today is a $13 billion asset sized bank serving the needs of approximately 350,000 customers, small businesses and commercial relationships from all walks of life in our New York and New England regions. We offer a full suite of key financial solutions to help our customers bank across distribution channels of their preference. Loans comprised 67% of average earning assets, supported by a diversified deposits base of $10.2 billion. We've always been a bank with a purpose. We understand the critical role Berkshire plays in putting people to work and deploying capital to power our local economies. We remind our customers that where they bank matters and their simple decision can significantly impact the health of their communities. At Berkshire, we bring that mantra to life through our purpose-driven business activities. For example, Berkshire supported local businesses through the pandemic by helping more than 7,000 small businesses secure nearly $1 billion in PPP loans, making us amongst the top institutions in terms of PPP loans as a percentage of assets nationally. We create thriving neighborhoods through our community contributions, which includes our philanthropy and employee volunteerism. Berkshire is building financial equity and wellness, helping more than 86,000 people with financial literacy last year alone and reinvesting $76 of every $100 deposited in places where we live and work, which is about 70% higher than industry average. Our commitment to social responsibility will continue to remain a central element during our transformation because when we successfully execute BEST, it will allow us to deepen our longstanding impact on the communities. We will enhance our existing and add new offerings within our ecosystem of socially responsible products and services, such as our recently launched MyFreedom Checking account, which helps improve financial stability of unbanked and under-banked consumers. Berkshire is charting its path forward in a highly competitive, rapidly evolving banking environment where we must significantly improve our financial performance and transform our customer experience. Slide 6 captures the macro trends and factors that are impacting the banking sector globally. These include macroeconomic factors related to persistently low interest rates and changing credit outlook, shifting customer and banker preferences and expectations, a rapidly accelerating technology and digital ecosystem, and associated competition and disruption from fintechs and neo-banks. These factors are influencing our strategic thinking and contributing to our sense of urgency, as we build our strategic transformation plan. Additionally, we believe that recent and future market disruptions due to M&A activities amongst competitors present new opportunities for us to hire new skilled, community-dedicated bankers and win new customers. And we've already begun to see this benefit accrue to us in the recent months. Slide 7 is what I refer to as the institutional imperative. It highlights our baseline financial performance and highlights how it is behind our peers. But more importantly, it also highlights the key drivers that will pave the path to a stronger performance. The right-hand side of the slide shows the gap versus peer median across key financial metrics, such as ROA, ROTCE, efficiency ratio and CET1 in 2020. Key elements of opportunities for improvement are listed on the chart on the left. This includes opportunities to further strengthen our balance sheet before starting to grow it again in early 2022. Some examples of this would be running off our high-cost CDs; increasing DDA penetration and balances through dedicated programs; running off non-relationship, noncore loan balances, while building capacity to grow relationship-based higher ROE loan balances. There are opportunities to improve margins by improving loan pricing and reducing high cost borrowings and wholesale funding. We see opportunities to change and improve asset mix with a higher concentration of small business and C&I loans within commercial and prudent allocation to consumer lending growth, while keeping the overall commercial-to-consumer mix at roughly about 70%, 30% over next 3 years. There are opportunities to improve revenue mix and generate high capital-efficient fee revenue through growth in SBA, mortgage banking, wealth management revenues and cash management. We also see opportunities to track and improve our Net Promoter Scores, which we believe will improve our relationship depth and overall profitability. We also see an opportunity to leverage our ESG performance and promote it more effectively. Based on the macro factors present in our sector, coupled with many improvement opportunities in front of us, we've created a clear plan of action, Berkshire's Exciting Strategic Transformation or BEST. We believe that this plan gets us to high performance over next 3 years and will help us achieve our vision to become the leading socially responsible community bank in the markets that we serve. Slide 8 highlights the key thematic pillars of the plan, which are Optimize, Digitize and Enhance. Our Optimize pillar covers all the initiatives that drive optimization of our physical footprint, processes and procurement, along with product, pricing and loan-deposit mix that will drive improved ROE. Our Digitize pillar covers all the initiatives that improve our ability to open consumer and business accounts online and digitize originations to servicing customer journeys. This pillar will also include improving our ability to leverage digital channels for marketing and provide meaningful insights into our customers through online and mobile banking channels. Initiatives in this pillar will also enable more seamless integrations with fintech and sales partners that will truly make us an omnichannel community bank. Our third pillar, Enhance, covers all the initiatives where we grow profitable originations and balances in chosen segments, enhance banker engagement, customer satisfaction and Net Promoter Scores. And enhance capital allocation and deployment for improved return on equity and return on capital -- return of capital to shareholders. The hallmark of a good strategy is the choices that we make to not only do new or more things, but also not do or do less of certain things. We have built those choices in our BEST plan. We track them in the strategic framework of participation, positioning, organizational risk and technology choices. Slide 9 provides some examples of choices within that strategic framework. In terms of the things that we'll do more of and things we will do less of. As an example, in participation, we will choose to accelerate growth in business banking, SBA lending, C&I and asset-based lending, while deepening relationships with CRE customers, along with Wealth Management and MyBanker programs. For those of you who may not be familiar with our MyBanker channel, it is a unique program through which we provide concierge service to our consumers and businesses. A dedicated banker takes care of your banking needs by visiting the customers versus customers visiting the branches. We will also increase consumer balances with high ROE, while retaining our overall loans mix to 70% to 30% commercial and consumer. In the same category of participation choices, Berkshire will continue to assess its branch footprint, looking at opportunities to optimize the franchise and tighten the geography, while maintaining our strong record of deposit retention with the MyBanker program. Similarly, we will not participate in or will run off businesses that are inherently high-risk or low-margin and non-relationship in nature. Many of these choices are listed on the slide, and collectively, they improve our ability to effectively execute the BEST program to drive high performance. Slide 10 outlines the components of our optimize initiatives. These include optimizing the footprint by exiting under-penetrated markets, branches and hub site consolidation. Optimizing processes include centralizing the procurement function to consolidate and lower vendor costs, enterprise process mapping and reengineering and automation of outsourcing, all of which will improve effectiveness and efficiencies across the bank. In terms of optimizing the balance sheet, we'll get better before we get bigger, as I indicated earlier. This means that we'll stabilize the balance sheet in year 1, grow the updated balance sheet from year 2 onwards to maximize ROE. We will also reduce or eliminate noncore, low-margin, duplicated products, along with optimizing pricing, all of which will improve the dynamics and profitability of the balance sheet. In terms of human capital, we'll review our org structures and spans of control and strengthen our Performance Management Program to identify opportunities for human capital saves. This will also create opportunities for redeployment of talent to effectively execute our strategies and create opportunities for broader roles and higher incentive compensation for our top performers. Cumulatively, these initiatives under the Optimize pillar are projected to improve our return on tangible capital by approximately 300 basis points in year 3. On Slide 11, you'll see all key components of Digitize pillar and its cumulative financial impact. Through this pillar, we're enhancing our technology behind all our points of customer contact, branches, MyBankers, relationship managers, interactive tellers and call center, with a goal to expand customer self-service and enhance our outreach to our customers. Behind the front end will be a strengthened data warehouse supporting our analytics and relationship views. Of course, the mobile experience is the most exciting aspect of our work, in which we'll build forward from our leading-edge account opening platform developed in partnership with Narmi. Some of these programs have already begun, and we are seeing remarkable improvements already. For example, our digital account opening for checking account was roughly 2% of total checking accounts opened last year. We're now at about 7% this year so far. Our mobile app rating was below 2 stars at the start of this year on iOS platform. Today, we're at 4.6 stars. The financial contribution from digitization is expected to include important revenue drivers based on improved customer outreach, marketing and partnerships with fintechs that will help us originate high-quality relationships through digital channels. The cumulative impact of all digitize initiatives is projected to improve ROTCE by approximately 75 basis points in year 3 of our BEST plan. On Slide 12, we have listed the key initiatives under the Enhance pillar of our BEST program and its ROTCE impact. Under this initiative, we will grow verticals where we have a competitive advantage and a robust market opportunity and high return on capital. This includes small business and SBA lending, where we have a distinctive advantage. Commercial lending, including CRE and especially asset-based lending that extends into the mid-Atlantic region, where we have a premier specialty lending group with a stellar record. We have a talented team of CRE bankers and will enhance relationship focus on those originations as well, including higher deposit balances per customer, secured and unsecured consumer loans for customers in the footprint where we are able to fulfill their needs while expanding and deepening our relationships. We will do this through our existing channels as well as fintech partnerships. We also believe that mortgages are an important part of consumers' relationship with the community banks like us, and we'll grow that portfolio through expanded channels. Berkshire has been building a strong team and platform for wealth management, and we'll continue to actively grow here to improve our wallet share and fee revenue, largely through targeted relationship deepening. Our MyBanker program is proving to be a strong revenue driver and source of organic growth, and we will add more bankers to this program for further deepening customer relationships. Through these changes, our front-line teams are now poised to take advantage of the robust economic recovery in our region and capitalize on market opportunity ties arising from disruptions in the competitive landscape. As part of our Enhance pillar, we'll strengthen our capital allocation process to increasingly deploy a larger portion of capital to higher ROE relationship businesses. We'll refine our capital stack to lower our cost of capital, and we'll continue to look for opportunities for capital deployment, both into high ROA businesses and back to our shareholders on an ongoing basis. As a reminder, we announced our plans for a share buyback in the late April during our first quarter earnings call. As part of this pillar, we'll also roll out programs to improve employee engagement and productivity, enhance relationship pricing programs for customers and promote our purpose-driven positioning in our communities. Cumulatively, we project that these initiatives under the Enhance pillar will deliver incremental ROTCE of approximately 350 basis points in year 3 of our BEST plan. Slide 13 captures the key success matrix over 3 years. It highlights that through effective execution of our BEST program over the next 3 years we project to deliver return on tangible common equity or ROTCE of 10% to 12% in year 3, which is an improvement over the baseline of adjusted ROTCE in 2020 by 680 to 880 basis points. Similarly, ROA is projected to increase to 100 to 105 basis points, which is an improvement of 76 to 81 basis points compared to the baseline of adjusted ROA in 2020. This takes our projected PPNR to $180 million to $200 million in year 3 or an increase of $71 million to $91 million compared to our baseline of adjusted PPNR in 2020. We project to be in the top quartile of banks nationally, as measured by ESG raters and indexes, including MSCI, ISS, Sustainalytics and Bloomberg. And finally, we expect to be in the top quartile of Net Promoter Score amongst banks in New England through implementation of this program. Slide 14 provides a walk-through of how ROTCE improves through our BEST program and other factors. Starting with ROTCE of 3.2% in 2020, we expect to gain approximately 300, 75 and 350 basis points through Optimize, Digitize and Enhance initiatives, respectively. Additionally, the components of our BEST program that address capital deployment and credit are projected to drive an additional 100 basis points to take the ROTCE for year 3 of the program between 10% to 12%. Please note that this does not include any benefit coming from rate increases forecasted for the next 3 years. Our balance sheet is asset sensitive at this point, and our net interest income as a percentage of revenue is over 80%. Given this, we expect larger than average benefits to accrue to us in the event of rate increases over next 3 years. And based on our current projections, we believe we could gain 100 basis points in ROTCE from currently forecasted interest rate increases over the next 3 years, which would take our total ROTCE to 11% to 13% in the year 3 of the BEST program. Continuing on the financial results. Slide 15 covers some additional details of the drivers of improved performance. Based on these initiatives planned, we expect our loan balances to grow at a CAGR of about 5% to 7% over next 3 years. Our loans to deposits ratio will increase from 79% in 2020 to approximately 90% in the year 3 of the program, pretty much in line with where we would like to be. Our efficiency ratio will improve from 69% in 2020 to approximately 60% in year 3 of this program. Our CET1 ratio will moderate from about 14% to 11% over 3 years, which is more in line with the peer group. Our balance sheet composition, especially changed from where we were at the end of Q1 2021 to where we will be at the end of year 3 of our BEST program is outlined here. The net message is within the loans component of the earnings asset, the distribution of commercial to consumer will remain quite similar with approximately 70% to 30% mix in year 3. Our investments mix will decline from 33% of earning assets in Q1 '21 to about 20% in year 3. The charts in the bottom right section show the change in funding mix. The net message is that noninterest-bearing deposits as a percentage of total funding mix will improve significantly from 23% in Q1 2021. Slide 16 provides a high-level overview of governance structure that we're putting in place for execution of our BEST program. The program, as you know now, has 3 thematic pillars; Optimize, Digitize and Enhance. These pillars are composed of 16 individual workstreams led by members of our management team. Each workstream has its own specific financial objectives, which all roll up in support of the overarching BEST goals. We are developing a strong governance and support system to power BEST and ensure accountability by creating transformation management office and transformation management committee led by our Chief Transformation and Strategy Officer, Sumant Pustake. Our transformation is enabled through strong internal and external communications and change management, including aligning pay and performance measures with the BEST program objectives. Our company has a strong enterprise risk management structure and culture, and our ERM process will be a critical part of our BEST execution strategy. The execution of BEST will further be supported by an experienced executive leadership team. Slide 17 highlights the collective, broad and deep experience of our executive leadership team who has over 325 years in banking, equating to about 27 years on an average. What brings this leadership team together and also sets us apart is our drive and passion to empower the financial potential of our customers and communities from all walks of life. It is reflected in our philanthropic and volunteering work, including service on various nonprofit boards. These executives, along with other members of management team, will help successfully achieve the goals of our BEST program. Berkshire is a purpose-driven, socially responsible community bank. Consistent with my message in our annual report, we're ready to get better and stronger with a sense of urgency. With the launch of our BEST program, we are transforming the company towards high performance by adapting to changing customer preferences, becoming the leading socially responsible omnichannel community bank in our markets and maximizing value for all stakeholders while positioning ourselves for future growth. From an outside-in perspective, we present an exciting change story of a purpose-driven institution that is trading marginally above tangible book value. With a new management team that is looking at things with a fresh set of eyes and will leave no stone unturned along our path to high performance. This BEST transformation program is truly the best program for this organization and has been built from the ground up by the leadership team. All Berkshire bankers are committed and excited to move forward with a collective resolve, confidence and passion to prove to ourselves and everyone else that purpose and performance can truly coexist. And Berkshire's purpose-driven community dedicated banking model will enhance value for all stakeholders, including our shareholders. With that, I'll invite our management team to join me and open it up to your questions. We have a phone line open for analysts and investors. You can ask questions via the phone line or through the question box in your webcast screen. At this time, I'll turn the meeting over to our operator for a moment to invite audio questions, and we will pause to bring members of our management team on the screen to respond to your questions. Operator, please proceed.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Laurie Hunsicker from Compass Point.
Laurie Hunsicker
analystIt's really nice to see you guys. I was hoping that you could go back a little bit to discuss your branch footprint. And obviously, by the end of this year, you'll be down to 106, which was great, and you referenced that may continue to shrink. Can you talk a little bit more generally how we should think about that? And specifically, as we look to next year, how we should be thinking about where deposits are, where earning assets are, maybe some of your assumptions with respect to further branch closings and retentions? That's my first question. And then I have a follow-up on expenses.
Nitin Mhatre
executiveSure. Thank you, Laurie, and good morning to you as well. Let me start out at a high level. I think you know this, based on the conversations we've had in the past, we believe that branches do play an important role for community banks, both for consumers and small businesses, and they will continue to play that important role. That said, over the -- a period of time, we believe there will be fewer and smaller branches in the footprint. We also believe they'll be better located over time as we tighten our geography. And at the same time, we believe that every decision that we make about which footprint to operate in and how do we tighten our geography will be based on data and the consumer preferences. The good news for us is, like you mentioned, we have done optimization and consolidations in the past, and we've really done it very well. So I'm going to ask, Sean, if he could give maybe some update as to how we performed so far. And then I'll come back to what the plans for the future may be. Sean?
Sean Gray
executiveSure. So as you know, we announced 16 earlier in the year. We are through 12. So that benefit will continue to run through going into the future. We have 4 more scheduled for the remainder of this year. That remains on track, on schedule, on budget. So that brings us to about 20 branch consolidations in the last 3 years. And we've done about 41 in the last -- just under a decade. So it's a very formal process. We look at branch profitability down to that exact branch. We validate with third-party. We then look at -- as Nitin was talking about, how that branch is contributing to the density in that market, our market penetration. And then obviously, the speed of digital adoption is changing behaviors. So we ultimately believe we've got a great track record of performance. In those consolidations, we've retained over 95% of our deposits. So we feel good. So ultimately, it's a good process. And we think we can continue branch optimization into the future and continue to bring that branch count down.
Nitin Mhatre
executiveShould we ask maybe Tami to give more color around how we're actually retaining those deposits? Tami, are you there?
Tami Gunsch
executiveYes, I am. Good morning, everyone. So Sean really covered how we look at branch optimization, is one of the things that we do, and where our track record was to really retain over 95% of deposits is really identifying the branches that we're going to consolidate and really reaching out to our customers through our relationship managers through the branches or our MyBankers post-consolidation to really give us the opportunity to retain all of our customers. So that has been very successful through our consolidation. As Sean mentioned, we have consolidated over 41 branches and retained over 95% of our deposits. So our teams do a really nice job in interacting with our customers prior to our branch consolidations.
Nitin Mhatre
executiveThank you, Tami. Laurie, does that address your question?
Laurie Hunsicker
analystYes. And then just maybe can you help us think a little bit more broadly, so from 106 do we potentially go down another 10 to 20 branches? What is baked into your efficiency ratio assumptions?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveSo I don't want to give you specific guidance, Laurie, but what you could safely assume is we'll continue the process of managing consolidation that's databased. I would say in the plan what we have is in the range of maybe 5% to 10% if that opportunity lends itself based on the consumer behavior and the foot traffic.
Laurie Hunsicker
analystGot it. So 5% to 10% down from the 106. Is that -- am I thinking about that? Okay. Great. And then on your efficiency ratio guide of 69%, going down to 60%, can you just -- can you maybe also help us think a little bit about both revenue and top line or maybe put that in the framework of sort of noninterest expense over assets? Or can you help us tighten that a little bit just in terms of how we're thinking about that? And maybe just as you put all of these pieces together, maybe also help us think about margin because stripping out some of the noise, your margin, it's looking like it's dropping down to sort of a 2.45% level as we roll into 2022. Can you help us think a little bit about what that is looking like when you put all these pieces together?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveSure. I'll let Subhadeep answer the question. I'll come back to your latter point that you made.
Subhadeep Basu
executiveLaurie, this is Subhadeep. Nice to hear from you. So on the efficiency ratios, as Nitin referenced to earlier on in the presentation, there are a variety of forces at play here. So on the expense side, as we were -- Sean was talking to it earlier as well, we will continue to rationalize our branch footprint. And that -- we have already started that journey, that's going to continue, and that obviously delivers substantial numbers on the expense side. Secondly, we're looking at our real estate footprint and what the post-pandemic work environment takes us, and we definitely feel that there's an opportunity in addition to also providing flexibility to our coworkers. We're looking at sort of FTE opportunities to reductions and how do we sort of manage to that. And then obviously, we're going to look at sort of our current needs, our attrition rates and manage to that as well from an FTE standpoint. Also, we're looking at sort of centralization of procurement activities. And we believe, as we have seen in the industry, that delivers saves for us as an institution. And then lastly, it's the technology stack we are looking at in terms of retirement of older technology stacks and redundancies that it creates, which will help us on the expense standpoint. On sort of on the -- what we are going to do is we are going to self-fund this transformation through our expense reduction efforts. We're going to use some of that expense saves to hire bankers, which will drive frontline revenue growth. We will also deploy into technology to enhance productivity, to enhance customer experience. And so what you're going to see in terms of us driving towards the 60% expense ratio is a combination or a dynamic effect of revenues and expenses, and you'll see that play out over the next 3 years or so. In terms of your question around NIM, obviously, we are focused around -- Nitin gave the guidance around the PPNR lift and how much that's going to -- where that's going to take us in year 3. We are focused obviously on NII. The other thing that Nitin also talked about is sort of asset mix shift. So that's going to also have an impact on NII and NIM. So in summary, our guidance will be that the NIM will definitely trend higher from where it is. And we, as a bank, and you'll continue to see the benefits that we get out in the out quarters.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Anthony Elian with JPMorgan.
Anthony Elian
analystCan you talk more about improving the revenue mix? And more specifically on the path to enhancing the overall top line growth profile of the company?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveWell, absolutely. And I think some of that was included in the presentation deck, Anthony. And first of all, thank you. That's a great question. So it's a couple of different things. One is the changing the asset mix itself. And I think you'll see some of those parameters that I laid out. The other part is driving down the cost of funds, both through the consumer-small business mix as well as taking down the cost of borrowings on the financial balance sheet. The other side of it is changing the mix within both consumer and commercial portfolios that enhances our margins along the way. There is also a tremendous amount of focus built into the fee income because currently we're operating about 17% to 18% in 2020. We believe this takes us at a significantly higher number in the 3 years that we build this plan out for. So it's a combination of those 3 or 4 factors that improves our revenue significantly. And like Subhadeep mentioned earlier, the expense saves that we get largely from the Optimize pillar part of our BEST transformation plan invests into those activities. So that will help us facilitate that. And we've modeled this out, and we believe these are all components that have very high likelihood to be achieved over 3 years.
Anthony Elian
analystGreat. And then my follow-up on the drivers, what are some of the drivers of the 5% to 7% loan growth? Is this 5% to 7% all organic? Or does it also include any potential banker hires you have today or you expect to make?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveYes. You nailed it. It's a combination of 3 or 4 things. One is we have, as I mentioned in my comments, extremely talented bankers throughout the organization that know our markets and the customers and the sponsors and the COIs really, really well. So we're going to leverage that, enhance the productivity, stronger performance management, different and improved compensation plans. So that's going to help improve the volume production from the existing sales force. We will hire new frontline bankers as well and support staff that supports that new production. And I'm going to ask my colleague, George, to give an update about how we're doing there in a minute. George, why don't you go now? Talk about what you're seeing in the market in terms of the new hires.
George Bacigalupo
executiveThank you, Nitin. Good morning. Because of the mergers that we're seeing in our markets, both in New England and Mid-Atlantic, there are uncertainties in the market, and there are opportunities to hire some well-qualified bankers to enhance our businesses. So just in the recent months or so, we've hired Scott Vickery and Lance Reagan to head up a team of business bankers for the Boston market. We've also recently hired Ben Garcia to help our Mid-Atlantic group in ABL coming from Wells Fargo Bank. And we also have hired Tim Kensky from Bank of America to be a middle market lender based in Albany. We also have a number of other potential hires that we're working on, will really enhance the areas that we're looking to grow, specifically ABL, business banking and middle market in the coming years.
Nitin Mhatre
executiveThank you, George. And Anthony, to go back to your question about, so is it organic? The short answer is yes. And how it is organic is we're going to improve the productivity of the existing sales force, supplement the sales force like George talked about. And there is a significant amount of frontline hiring that's baked into this plan. That comes across the board for consumers, business banking and commercial. We are also redeploying or enhancing our digital proposition. So that's going to get us a certain amount of incremental production and then there are fintech partnerships. So predominantly organic plan, but significant number of broad levers to do that.
Operator
operatorAnd there are no further telephone questions at this time.
Kevin Conn
executiveThank you, James. Good morning. This is Kevin Conn, Investor Relations and Corporate Development Officer at Berkshire Hills Bancorp. I'll be the moderator for the webcast questions. Our first question is, congratulations on what seems to be a comprehensive strategic plan, targeting PPNR growth of $70 million to $90 million. How confident do you feel about execution of the plan?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveThat's a great question. Thanks for sharing that. Very confident is what I would say, if I were to give a short answer. And the reason why we feel very confident is multifold. Number one, I feel confident about this having seen this experience and felt it before in terms of how you can do the transformation leveraging the team that you have. The other exciting part about this organization is this has been built organically from ground up, which I think makes it really engaging and exciting for the totality of the organization. We've done comprehensive amount of modeling while we build this, and I mentioned that in my remarks as well earlier. We model each workstream and apply likelihood factors to each of those workstreams, and we feel very confident that there's a good likelihood of cement of each of those workstreams. We put a good governance structure around it. And what's exciting about this program is we -- really what we're doing, in effect, is reactivating that organic growth muscle of the organization. And I have Sean here, and Sean could give you maybe some color around -- because we base certain assumption in terms of how much can we originate organically, but we also looked at our history. And maybe Sean could give a little bit of perspective as to why we feel good about the numbers that we projected.
Sean Gray
executiveSure. Sure. We feel good, obviously, because of balance. The plan consists of revenue enhancements with the necessary expense discipline. As we look back, we've been here before. And in 2018, we originated $2.2 billion in new loan originations. And 92% of our commercial bankers are still here. And what you just heard George say is we've got a very healthy pipeline of talented bankers. The bankers that are with us today are excited. They're ready to accelerate growth. They're ready to play a part in the onboarding of new bankers. So we've got a track record that speaks to it and the best plan that enhance. On the expense side, as recently as 2019, we were a sub-60 efficiency ratio. So BEST allows us to build upon that, brings that discipline back. So ultimately, we feel good that we'll have the right balance. And then lastly, I think Nitin hit it on the head. Organizationally, we've rallied together to build the plan together and now to execute on that plan. So we feel good.
Nitin Mhatre
executiveThank you, Sean. So just going back quickly, it's an organic plan built by the team; comprehensive modeling; good governance structure. And we recognize there will be execution risk in any plan that there are. But I think the governance structure makes sure that along the way we course correct as needed, but keep the totality of the plan intact. So that's why we feel very confident about this plan. Thank you.
Kevin Conn
executiveThe next question comes from Kelly Motta from KBW. What is the upside from higher rates? What do you assume for the go-forward rate environment in your forward interest rate projection?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveKelly, I'll let Subhadeep answer that question. I'll also point you back to the presentation where we have in the ROTCE walk how much there is improvement, and Subhadeep could give you more color around that.
Subhadeep Basu
executiveThanks, Nitin. Kelly, good to hear from you. So in this -- the scenario analysis that we did that was highlighted in Nitin's presentation, we showed approximately 100 basis points benefit to ROTCE in year 3. And for this, we assumed 1 interest rate hike in '22, 1 in '23 and 3 in '24. I think if you look at sort of the market consensus or the expectations, we're probably going to get higher than that. But I think 1 important point to point out here, I'm going to connect to the last question is, when we did our modeling of PPNR, everything, we didn't build in any benefits from interest rate hikes. So that -- not that we are dependent on macro factors, but that gives us the added comfort that if there are macro tailwinds that will help us probably overshoot that target. I think going back to history a little bit, when the last set of rate hikes happened, we were not in an adequate position or maybe the ideal position because we are -- we were over reliant on wholesale funding, and our core deposits weren't there. Where we are today is in a much better place. We are -- we have significantly reduced the reliance on wholesale funding, and that will continue to go down during the course of the year and the plan. We intend to almost bring down to 0 the reliance on some of the definitely higher cost wholesale funding. And as Nitin said, we are asset-sensitive. We definitely stand to benefit from the short end of the curve.
Nitin Mhatre
executiveVery well said, Subhadeep, and I'm just going to reiterate, Kelly, the point that he made, which is very important to us as we were building this over the last 3 months. We did not want to rely on the rate changes for the plan to be successful. So if you see the ROTCE walk, our 3.2% of ROTCE in 2020 goes to between 10% to 12% without the benefit of the rate increases. And if there are rate increases, which there very likely will be, that gets us another 100 basis points. So I think on its own the plan stands for itself. And then I think there'll be incremental benefits that come along the way. Thank you for the question.
Kevin Conn
executiveThe next question is, can you talk about the general pace of implementation and steps? Any color on what you are addressing first, any yardsticks we should look at to track progress with the BEST implementation?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveThe short answer would be yes. And I think there is a cadence applied in the governance structure that we have that's built through the transformation office, that's going to track not just the overarching the pillars of the program, but each workstream and the sub-workstreams that are embedded in it. We can't give you the cadence in terms of which ones of the initiatives that we're launching first versus the other. But what we could tell you is the plan really ramps up from year 2 onwards in terms of the delivery of the key metrics that we've outlined in those presentation slides.
Kevin Conn
executiveNext question from the webcast. Don't you think that there are issues with the whole stakeholder concept and profitability? Longer term, how can you compete with other banks who focus more on profitability?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveNo, and I'm going to ask my colleague, Gary Levante, to add more color in terms of why we believe that a socially responsible community bank cannot just survive, but thrive and maximize stakeholder and shareholder value. And you saw some of the stats there, and I think it's very, very compelling. And this is -- there's a clear distinction between a community bank that is socially responsible versus a socially responsible community bank that delivers or maximizes the stakeholder value. We believe we belong to the latter. There is tremendous amount of history and the strength of history that we have. And we're going to take that as an advantage and drive that purpose into profit. Gary, if you're on, could you talk about how we've done this in the past and what the feedback we're seeing from our consumers and small businesses and the reinvestment that we do in our communities.
Gary Levante
executiveThanks, Nitin, so much for that question. And I appreciate this question coming in from the audience because there aren't many successful businesses that are not in successful communities. The 2 are inexorably linked. We view purpose as driving profit and profit driving our purpose. In that cycle of social impact, builds trust with our consumers. It strengthens our reputation. It improves our risk management practices and ultimately enhances that community bank model. It goes well beyond just philanthropy and community involvement to ensure that we're doing business in a way that's environmentally, socially ethical. Harnessing our core competencies, our capital, our products, our services to address those topics that are most material to our business and to our stakeholders. And I'm going to provide a couple of examples of this in practice that highlight how commercial success and social impact can take Berkshire Bank to greater heights. So the first example that we will provide is the Futures Fund. The Futures Fund was launched in collaboration with Black Economic Council, Massachusetts, and the MA's LGBTQ Chamber. This product provided low interest, low barrier to entry, lines of credit to assist main street businesses that were impacted by the coronavirus pandemic. So not only did we develop an innovative product that met a community need for businesses on our main streets that could not -- or did not have the access to government relief programs. Most of these businesses were new customers to the bank. Not only that, now we are their primary bank because we answered the call when they needed the help the most. The second example that I want to provide is on a different length, and it speaks to our goal that we announced a couple of years ago to move towards procuring 100% of our electricity from renewable sources. We recognize that an important tactic to ultimately get to that end goal was going to be solar and virtual net metering agreements. Not only is allowing us to elevate the amount of renewable electricity that we're getting to power our operations, this is an approximately 12% cost save over normal electricity supplies. Not only does it make good sense for the environment, it makes great sense for the business. And BEST is going to allow us to amplify that impact to drive bottom line benefits to our shareholders and to our stakeholders through these purpose-driven business activities.
Nitin Mhatre
executiveVery well said, Gary. Thank you.
Kevin Conn
executiveOur next webcast question comes from Chris Chouinard at Davis Capital Partners. You said you want to get bigger -- sorry, get better before you get bigger. How do you balance getting better, that often means with a smaller balance sheet while still growing revenues?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveWell, absolutely. Great question. And I think that's the theme that we're using consistently here. It's all about getting better before we get bigger. And part of the reason why we say that is because we see inherent opportunities within the existing balance sheet to improve the return on equity while potentially reducing that in the earlier part of the program. That starts growing up. And then when it grows, it gets you the dual benefit of the balance sheet growth as well as the ROE that is maximized. So that's the theme around better before getting bigger. We do see in the plan -- the modeled out plan does get us start getting growth into 2022 onwards. So it's the early part of the phase where we're going to clean up or improve our balance sheet and the dynamics on the balance sheet and improve the margins and the ROE. So we believe that's the absolute right way to go about it as opposed to just have this -- for this -- getting bigger for the sake of getting bigger doesn't necessarily help. And I think that's what we're trying to course correct here.
Kevin Conn
executiveQuestion from Gerry Cronin from Elizabeth Park Capital. What will differentiate Berkshire Bank from Rockland Trust and other competitors once the transformation is completed? What will differentiate Berkshire Bank from Rockland and Eastern once the transformation is completed?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveWell, I think that's -- I could talk about that for a long time, but I'll give a simple answer. The simple answer would be we would become the leading, socially responsible community bank in New England and Eastern New York region. That's one. And we're going to exemplify that by not just the financial metrics that we talked about, the ROA, the ROTCE, the PPNR growth, but also by becoming the top quartile bank in terms of our NPS and also top quartile bank in terms of our ESG performance. The other part that is exciting for us is also how we leverage technology while retaining our personal touch. And we call this Digi-Touch approach by which we actually deploy and try to provide the best possible technology and technical services to our consumers and businesses while retaining the personal touch of a community bank likes of which you talked about. I think we'll combine this better. And the reason why we feel good about why we'll combine this better is because we've made significant amount of investments in the previous years to integrate all of these platforms more seamlessly. So at this point, I might actually ask our CIO, Jason White, to talk about some of the investments that we made in technology that facilitates better integration with the technology platforms. Jason, you there?
Jason White
executiveThank you, Nitin. So over the past couple of years, we've build a strong foundation with our existing investments, including sales force, CRM, the platform integrations that we're speaking of. We've invested in middleware through our API integrations to pull all the fintechs that we are looking at and that we have integrated together through this platform. We've implemented a best-in-class online account opening solution, which Sean and Nitin both referred to. We replaced our call center solution with a state-of-the-art solution, increased our customer satisfaction ratings, as Nitin mentioned, in our mobile app. And we're in a great position to optimize those investments by continuing to drive efficiencies in our infrastructure, enhancing our customer in online mobile experience and continued development in customer journeys in digital marketing. Future technology investments will include new fintech partnerships for digital solution, expanding our online presence for things such as small business online applications, customer self-service capabilities and a customizable digital banking suite and a data-first approach, implementing a cloud-based data warehouse, allowing for customer segmentation from point marketing.
Nitin Mhatre
executiveThank you, Jason. So to bring that back, we're talking about an institution with 175-year history of being purpose-driven, community-dedicated, socially responsible bank. We'll deploy that and attach that with a smart technology choices that we're making to create this unique combination of Digi-Touch, as we call it, and that will maximize the shareholder value. I think that will make us a unique organization as compared to the organizations that you mentioned amongst many others. Thank you.
Kevin Conn
executiveNext question from the web. You have a 14% CET1 capital ratio. What is your excess capital? How big is it? And how will it be deployed during BEST?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveSubhadeep?
Subhadeep Basu
executiveThanks for that question. Great question. So I think first and foremost, I would like to point out that we are amongst the best-capitalized banks in the country where we are with our common equity Tier 1 capital. In terms of the question around excess capital, we believe it's in the low hundreds of millions of dollars. And -- and what we are -- where we are today, right? We are going to effectively deploy capital towards a number of initiatives. So before I get that, I again want to point out, as we talked about at our first quarter earnings call, we continue to believe the management and the Board that deploying excess capital in the form of share buybacks continue to be a focus in the -- for us. And that was -- the announcement in terms of buying back $60 million worth of shares was essentially reflective of that philosophy. Now moving on to sort of how will we utilize our capital. So as you can imagine, we will still have significant amounts of excess capital even post the buybacks. And we'll organically generate capital through the BEST initiatives, right? And that is reflective in the numbers that we talked about from a ROTCE and a PPNR perspective. And we are going to deploy this capital in, I would say, 3 principal ways. One is supporting our organic balance sheet growth; secondly, continuing our dividend payouts to our shareholders; and thirdly, absolutely continuing down the path of doing share buybacks as and when the opportunities present themselves. And you will continue to hear more from us. And as the management and the Board continues to engage in discussion on opportunities that present ourselves during the 3-year course of the plan.
Kevin Conn
executiveOur next question from the web is, does Berkshire have any current fintech partners?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveYes, we do. And Jason -- I'll ask Jason to give an update about where we are, who do we partner with today. And then just share my thinking about how our thinking is evolving over time. Jason?
Jason White
executiveSure. As of today, I mentioned that we have future and active reviews going out with different fintech partners at this point to support the different workstreams that Nitin mentioned in the BEST plan. But as of today, you've heard the name Narmi, that's our best-in-class online account opening solution, Alloy. Alloy is our fraud and KYC solution. We partnered with a company called Segment -- a fintech company called Segment that delivers us key life indicated tag transactional data for our customer base that we can use in the warehouse and that we're speaking of to analyze and further penetrate our customer base to market -- digitally market to those customers based on those key lifestyle indicators. And we pulled that all together through Sandbox Banking. That is our current middleware provider. So those are our kind of top fintech providers and how they pull together. And again, just handing it back to Nitin saying that we are actively looking into fintechs for small business applications, like I mentioned earlier.
Nitin Mhatre
executiveYes. Thank you, Jason. And to just kind of finish that point off, and we continue to engage in conversations with other partnerships and partners that improve our value proposition to our consumers and businesses and bankers as well. Thank you.
Kevin Conn
executiveThe next question from the webcast is, how will you grow fee revenue specifically? How will you grow your Wealth Management business?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveYes, happy to answer that. And I have my colleague here, Kate Hersey, who leads the Wealth Management business. So Kate, do you want to give an overview at a high level in terms of what our thinking is to grow Wealth Management business. Kate?
Kathryn Hersey
executiveYes. Yes, thank you. We see significant opportunities to build relationships with existing Berkshire clients throughout our footprint, and we're leveraging data to identify opportunities. We have built new solutions, including socially responsible investing strategies and income opportunity portfolios to meet client demand. We're also exploring potential strategic partnerships and pursuing talent acquisition.
Nitin Mhatre
executiveThank you, Kate. And I think just to kind of step back a little bit on the broader question about how we're looking at improving fee opportunities. You heard from Kate about the Wealth Management component, but we're also investing into SBA in mortgage banking and cash management units to improve our fee trend that's built into the model. Thank you.
Kevin Conn
executiveNext question is on credit. Have you made any changes to your credit policies following the pandemic and the credit issues during that pandemic?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveSure. I'll ask my -- our Chief Risk Officer, Greg Lindenmuth, to give an overarching view about where we stand, and I'll come back with what our thinking is going forward. Greg?
Gregory Lindenmuth
executiveThank you very much, Nitin. Except for curtailing lending in our COVID-sensitive segments, we have not made significant changes to our lending policies. They still remain very well-designed to remain competitive as well as risk balanced. As competitive factors as well as emerging risks develop over time, we routinely revisit our policies.
Nitin Mhatre
executiveExcellent. And going forward, just to supplement what Greg said, we have a robust program that we continue to make stronger and as and when the opportunities present itself, if we have to make adjustments, that is embedded into the governance structure that we built around credit risk and enterprise risk management.
Kevin Conn
executiveThe next web question is from Steven Duong from RBC Capital Markets. On the Digitize pillar, what is the approximate breakup between revenue and expenses of the 75 basis point ROTCE improvement? And do you have any general digital statistics, digital account openings, where you expect to be in the future days, things of that nature?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveSure. So I'll break it up into 2 parts. Broadly speaking, the Digitize pillar has 2 thematic components under it. One is doing things that improve the banker and the customer experience. Digitizing those journeys from originations to servicing and creating new insights and alerts for the consumers and businesses. So that's 1 component of the Digitize pillar. The other component of it, which is the revenue-generating component, is to align and integrate the partnerships and alignments that we need to have to make sure we're originating loans and deposit accounts digitally. I think the second part of your question about what's the North Star. You heard the statistics in my script about how we used to be about 2% of the accounts opened last year, checking accounts, were through digital channels. We're at about 7%. We believe our North Star is about high 20s, but we're also focused on quality of the accounts. So we're not just obsessed about, let's just get our digital percentage to a certain level, but also make sure the quality of the accounts is good. I'm going to ask Sean to maybe give more color about what we're seeing in terms of the quality of the accounts that we've originated so far through digital channels for deposits.
Sean Gray
executiveSure. Thanks, Nitin. Quality really breaks down to 2 components. The funding rate of that digital account and then the retention and fraud protection. So Jason talked about Alloy being our fraud protection KYC provider. So we have seen a positive. Going digital with our new Narmi and Alloy solution has seen a positive lift in reducing the amount of fraud within our online account opening. And then we will be tracking the funding rate and retention of those new accounts, and I'm happy to report, we've got a very high 98%, 99% plus funding rate of those accounts. So these are good real customers that we can deploy MyBankers with and enhance those relationships.
Nitin Mhatre
executiveThank you, Sean. And I think just to bring it back again. So this is how we make the Digitize component of our strategic pillar not just self-fund, but also create about 75 basis points of ROTCE.
Kevin Conn
executiveNext question from the webcast. With the areas you're looking to grow, small business lending, SBA, mortgage, wealth, et cetera, do you have the platform in place and it's leveraging your current people? Or are there some redirection of cost savings into building out more scale?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveBroadly speaking, we are looking at the existing platforms that we have. Jason has talked about some of the investments that we've made in the past that will help us facilitate some of the integrations that we're looking at that make those journeys better for the customers. So I'll just keep it high level and say, we do have good platforms today. We have made investments in the past that we're going to leverage to make sure the journeys for originations, and in some cases, servicing are streamlined. And we'll continue to look for additional enhancements in those journeys that we'll fund through this program while reinvesting into the future growth.
Kevin Conn
executiveNext question from the web. Nobody wants to limit your capital for growth, but long-term shareholders have had a dividend cut in half. What is the dividend policy going forward?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveI'll let Subhadeep start, and I'll come back to it later. Subhadeep?
Subhadeep Basu
executiveThank you for that question. So in terms of our dividend policy, this is 1 of the core components of the BEST program in terms of how we deploy capital to shareholders. Yes, as we all know, as net income fluctuates, our dividends and dividends for any company fluctuates with that. We are looking to grow net income aggressively, and that is probably quite evident in some of the numbers that we shared earlier in terms of ROTCE and PPNR. And we fully expect that dividends will grow commensurate with the net income growth.
Nitin Mhatre
executiveSo I think -- Subhadeep, thank you. And so roughly speaking, if we stay at about 40% payout ratio, with the growth in the earnings power, you will see the gain in the dividends. And we are also tracking how the dividend payouts look in terms of the yield that we provide, and we want to stay competitive throughout this program.
Kevin Conn
executiveThe next question from the webcast is on balance sheet optimization. Obviously, there's a ton of liquidity in the banking system that everyone is trying to deploy. How are you thinking about the size of the balance sheet and runoff in this part of the BEST plan?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveYes. I think it is similar to the question that came before. We're going to get better before we get bigger, which means we'll improve the geography of the balance sheet and maximize the ROE of the balance sheet in the first year -- roughly about first year of this program before we start getting it to be bigger. The big part of the increase in the balance sheet will come largely from business banking, SBA, ABL and growing CRE and C&I commensurately with the GDP growth in the market. And on the consumer side, grow the consumer personal loans and mortgage banking balance sheet. So there is a growth built into the plan, but the first year of the plan really just optimizes the geography of the balance sheet before the growth begins. So that's the plan to grow it.
Kevin Conn
executiveOkay. The next question from the webcast is how should we be thinking about medium-term credit provision expense? Will it be similar to pre-pandemic conditions?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveSubhadeep?
Subhadeep Basu
executiveYes. Thanks for the question. So I will revert back to our first quarter guidance that we provided. We expect on our core portfolio to go back to our pre-pandemic provisioning expenses and ECL to loans ratio in 2022. Having said that, as is quite evident from the BEST program, we plan to grow the balance sheet and with a slight moderation in asset and change in asset mix. Because as a result of that you'll see provision expenses change, keeping up with sort of the assets that could bring on to our balance sheets.
Kevin Conn
executiveOur last question is, what is your current technology spend priorities?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveYes. I will, again, pass the ball to Jason to give you a quick overview, but I'll just start with what my general thinking about technology is. I think technology has evolved very, very rapidly, as you know, and especially in the last 3 to 5 years. And the scope of what it does has moved from data storage to data management to all the way into creating differentiated customer experiences for us. It has gotten more democratized. So even the largest banks in the country with billions of dollars of technology budgets are relying on some fintech partnerships to deliver those exceptional customer experiences. The good news about this is -- the democratize part of this is we are able to speak with same partners and fintech partners as Platform as a Service or Software as a Service and connect them to our ecosystem of what we call as the Digi-Touch approach. I'll ask Jason to talk about what the components of the technology investments are at a high level, Jason?
Jason White
executiveThank you, Nitin. I did hit on a couple of these components earlier. But really, the near-term focus will be on getting that data warehouse built, implementing that data. So we have that data for data-first approach. That's key number one. And we can take that data and integrate into our, Nitin mentioned, customer journeys. Enhance those customer journeys with the data, enhance our customer experience with that data. So really, that data-first approach is key. Secondly, we're going to be taking a look at the employee experience, right? We're going to take a look at our business process maps. We're going to automate with the -- and leverage the tools that we put in place over the past couple of years to enhance that experience. And thirdly, we're going to take a look at the current platforms that we have now, integrate more into our sales force environment, utilizing that middleware I spoke of, and take a look at our customer digital suite and introduce new self-service capabilities as well as customization in the future. So those are kind of my 3 top priorities that layer right into this to support those workstreams.
Nitin Mhatre
executiveThank you, Jason. Kevin, you mentioned that as the last question. Any other new questions that have come up or we're good.
Kevin Conn
executiveI got 1 more, Nitin, as the final, final question. It's from Luke Wooten at Manulife. And the question is how much investment is needed over the next 18 months for the Optimize pillar?
Nitin Mhatre
executiveSo Kevin, I think the short answer for that would be the Optimize pillar, as we talked about in the ROTCE walk, gets us about 300 basis points of incremental value to where we are. There is components of investments that essentially are self-funding the initiatives for future growth. So I'll just leave it at a high level without getting into specific guidance within each of those components. And if that was the last question, Kevin, can you confirm that, please?
Kevin Conn
executiveYes. That was the last question from the webcast, Nitin.
Nitin Mhatre
executiveExcellent. Thank you so much. And I just want to say thank you all for making the time for this discussion. We hope you found this overview of our transformational BEST program helpful. And equally importantly, you'll walk away knowing that our collective resolve, confidence and passion to deliver high performance is driving us to become the leading socially responsible community bank in the markets we serve and deliver outsized returns for our shareholders. We'll keep you updated on the progress of this program at appropriate forums. Thank you once again, and have a wonderful day.
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