Billerud AB (publ) (BILL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

October 22, 2026

OM SE Materials Containers and Packaging earnings 37 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Billerud's Third Quarter Report 2026 Webcast and Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I'd now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Lena Schattauer, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Lena Schattauer

executive
#2

Good morning, and welcome to the presentation of Billerud's third quarter results. Our CEO, Ivar Vatne, and our CFO, Andrei Kres, will give you an overview of the results and the highlights of the quarter. After their presentation, conference participants will have the opportunity to ask questions. With that, I hand over to you, Ivar.

Ivar Vatne

executive
#3

Thank you, Lena, and good morning, everyone and thank you all for listening in to our Billerud update this Thursday morning. There are several highlights to talk about, but it's first and foremost been a quarter where we see progress on the profitability recovery, and we continue the positive trend since the beginning of the year. So let's get into it. The next slide, please. And overall, our Q3 result is coming in quite close to our expectations and we do see progress on several fronts. We returned to positive net sales growth, up 3% versus a year ago and up 2% currency neutral. Net sales is also up versus previous quarter. Our sales growth is coming from increased volumes in both regions and we have positive pricing momentum for most of our categories. I want to, in particular, call out our region Europe for strong profitability improvement. And we have been through some tough years in Europe and the EBITDA margin for Europe now in Q3 is the highest since the beginning of 2025. Our saving measures on both variable and fixed costs are working and we have succeeded to increase our competitiveness. Now for North America, it's been a big quarter in taking the next step in a program Evolution. We have installed some new equipment at our Escanaba mill, which will enable further acceleration towards packaging materials, but more about that later. Focusing on converting a high share of our profit into cash remains a clear priority and we had another excellent quarter in terms of cash conversion, coming in at 127%, which makes our year-to-date position very strong. Next slide, please. Our strategic direction to evolve gradually towards packaging materials in North America is a high priority for us and we reached another milestone during the third quarter. And in combination with the annual shutdown in Escanaba, we upgraded some of the assets, specifically with changes on roll handling, roll wrap, winders and sheet dewatering elements. This has been needed to enable further capabilities to produce heavy basis weights versus what they have historically focused on. And with that, we complement the customer offering that I mentioned, which is more in the sweet spot within the packaging materials space. Commercially, we are continuing to pick up speed and recorded another record sales quarter during Q3. We would expect that we exceed that number also for Q4. Now over to some comments around market sentiment on next slide, please. And if I start with North America, the market conditions remain favorable, quite stable. Inflation has been a big topic, particularly fuel prices. But besides that, the consumer sentiment is still quite good and our order books are solid for Q4. In Europe, the market sentiment improved a bit during Q3. Now it's mostly supply-driven and fueled by energy price hikes on continental Europe and that triggers positive pricing momentum across the sector. Consumer demand is still relatively muted, but a bit improved versus how we started the year. There are big differences between categories and channels. Food and beverage and industrial are starting to normalize with pretty good demand, while luxury is still weak. And for Asia and the rest of the world, the situation has also improved a bit. Food and beverage continued strong performance during '26, also within the industrial channel, where our exposure is mostly within sack. The sentiment has strengthened during the quarter and is solid. So with that, I hand it over to Andrei.

Andrei Kres

executive
#4

Thank you, Ivar, and good morning, everyone. So as Ivar mentioned, we are back to top line growth, which is driven by positive volume development in both regions. Europe was standing for the majority of the increase with 5% volume growth, while North America recorded 2% volume increase. The total pricing remains negative, but it's quite a mixed bag here, with all categories in North America up versus a year ago while Europe is still behind. Next slide, please. EBITDA was more or less flat versus a year ago as most of the headwinds were offset by our cost-saving initiatives and volume recovery. Raw material cost development is positive versus last year, largely driven by Nordic pulpwood costs, while we do see higher costs for logistics compared to same period last year. And that's, of course, driven by the higher fuel prices that we see now. Margin of 10% is another solid improvement versus weak start we had in 2026. Sequentially, EBITDA is up more than 50%. And right now, it's our region Europe that is driving the sequential improvement. Our successful cost-saving program is, of course, an important building block and is continuing on track to deliver SEK 550 million in cost savings this year and further activities and impact also into 2027. Next slide, please. And some more words on region Europe. Continued positive momentum on pricing and our cost-savings program were the main drivers to recover profitability in the quarter. Volumes were up 7% sequentially and the improvement was particularly strong in containerboard and sack categories. Pulpwood costs continued to decline sequentially and we now expect current level to persist into the fourth quarter. Quarter three was quite maintenance-heavy with annual shuts at three mills. And for the fourth quarter, we will only finish off the Frovi shutdown, which will be the last one for this year. So maintenance-related costs will come down in Q4, but we will have, as usual, seasonally higher fixed costs compared to the third quarter. And heading into the fourth quarter, we see continued pricing opportunities within some categories where we see a bit better demand. And we also expect to selectively implement price increases during the quarter. Now moving over to region North America. Next slide, please. North America had a solid quarter with a 15% EBITDA margin. Now we did encounter some operational challenges in connection with the Escanaba shutdown and also ramp-up of our packaging materials. But despite that, we managed to maintain stable deliveries to our customers sequentially. Order books remain strong across all paper grades and this clearly also supports our operating rates, which have now been above 90% for a second quarter in a row. Cost inflation is a key theme for the region, primarily through higher fuel prices and we are offsetting that with both price increases and surcharges to our customers. And for the fourth quarter, we expect the market conditions to remain solid and also, in North America, we are now out of the maintenance shutdown period. Next slide, please. Some words on cost development in the third quarter. In Europe, we had a sequential cost relief of about SEK 20 million. That was driven by lower pulpwood and logistics costs, which were offset by higher chemical prices. In North America, we saw some headwinds from energy, chemicals and logistics, with an overall negative impact of around SEK 20 million. So all in all, for the group, flat input cost development in Q3 compared to Q2. Next slide, please. For the fourth quarter, we expect input cost headwinds of approximately SEK 60 million. And that is primarily driven by seasonally higher energy costs, that is electricity in the Nordics and natural gas in U.S. Elevated fuel prices will also be a factor, in particular in region North America, where we see impact on both fiber through higher harvesting costs and also logistics. Now as I mentioned earlier, Nordic pulpwood costs have come down as we expected. And from here, we see quite flat development into the fourth quarter. Now finally, energy prices are dominating a lot of the headlines these days. And I would just like to remind you that we are well-positioned with integrated assets in both of our regions and thus high self-sufficiency. And we also hedge majority of our energy price exposure quite far out in time. With that, I hand it back to you, Ivar.

Ivar Vatne

executive
#5

Thank you, Andrei. And some comments on cash flow and the balance sheet. As mentioned earlier, our cash conversion in Q3 was excellent and 127% is certainly a number of strength. It also puts our year-to-date cash conversion in a good place. Our balance sheet remains healthy and leverage drops to 2 now at quarter-end. Our CapEx estimate for 2026 is a bit reduced versus early guidance, with some project costs in the U.S. rolled over into 2027. So this is first and foremost, a timing effect. It means that our current CapEx guidance for '27 is SEK 2.6 billion, base CapEx, SEK 2.1 billion and SEK 0.5 billion related to the last section, the Project Evolution in North America. And right now, we don't have any further significant strategic CapEx projects planned. So to round it up, and next slide, please, and closing remarks on the outlook for Q4. We do expect relatively stable and unchanged market conditions for both of our regions. We have pricing actions in both our regions and we would expect this impact to offset cost inflation. After a period of heavy maintenance activity, we will have now less annual shuts in Q4. So with that, I hand it back to operator for Q&A.

Operator

operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Ashish Khetan from Citigroup.

Ashish Khetan

analyst
#7

I just wanted to ask about the profitability in Europe region. So how much of the margin improvement in this quarter is sustainable going into 2027? And what would be the margin level achievable given the current, today's demand environment?

Andrei Kres

executive
#8

Ashish, I think if you look at the improvement we have seen in Europe, it's obviously, as I mentioned, it's our cost-out initiatives, which is sticky, if I can express it like that. So that's underlying profitability improvement we have in Europe. And then, it's of course, the price increases that we have implemented throughout the year. Looking at the development into the fourth quarter, I mentioned, we probably will have price increases. And for 2027, based on the positive momentum on pricing we have today, we will probably see additional impact also going into 2027.

Ivar Vatne

executive
#9

Yes, and if I can just maybe add one point from my side, just to keep in mind that Q3 in Europe is always impacted by some vacation accruals and a bit lower activity. And that amount is estimated at SEK 160 million, which will come back in Q4. I just want to add that on top of the comments of Andrei.

Operator

operator
#10

We will now take our next question. And our next question comes from Linus Larsson from SEB.

Linus Larsson

analyst
#11

On a sequential basis, did I hear you right, guiding for input cost headwinds of SEK 60 million Q4 on Q3 on a sequential basis? I just want to clarify whether I got that right. And also, on the compensation front, what are you guiding for in terms of price improvement Q4 on Q3?

Andrei Kres

executive
#12

Yes, at this point, we look at headwinds of around SEK 60 million on costs. It's roughly a 50-50 split between the two regions. On pricing, at this point, we look at approximately 1% positive pricing development in both regions sequentially. Now of course, if you look at what's happening on the market and also at energy prices, a lot of the price increases that have been announced that are now impacting were announced before the worsened situation we are in now within energy. So we expect also that, that momentum to continue into 2027 and first half, but that we will need to come back to when we have some more, quarter four under us, so to speak.

Linus Larsson

analyst
#13

Great. Super. And then you talked about operational challenges in your North American operations. Anyway you could quantify that for the third quarter? And has that been resolved or does that have any sort of impact in the fourth quarter as well?

Ivar Vatne

executive
#14

Yes, I can take that one. We don't guide really, specifically on those items, I can say that if you look at some of the historical performance in North America and look now at Q3, taking out maintenance, it's a little bit lower than you would normally see. We had two events, you can call it that caused this quarter. And we had a little bit more downtime on the Escanaba mill after our annual shut, which by default should be a one-off. And we had a little lower runnability or you can call it mill efficiency, as part of ramping up of the packaging materials. And that being worked. It's not fully resolved, but we see progress already going into the first weeks of -- in October. I would expect us to take another step now in Q4 towards what we have historically seen as good performance in North America.

Linus Larsson

analyst
#15

Okay, cool. And then just finally, if I may, on the volume side of things in Europe, you did pretty well in the third quarter. Any color on that? What drove that improvement? And is there any reason why Q4 is not going to look as good if you look on a -- like a year-on-year comparison, for instance?

Andrei Kres

executive
#16

Yes, Linus. So I think if we look at the development in quarter three, I called out during my earlier comments, in particular, strong deliveries within containerboard and sack. I think if we look towards the fourth quarter, we feel that customers are managing or are careful about their inventories. We also see that orders are coming in quite late because there is volume out there. And standing here now in October, we would expect that as we have seen in previous years that, that inventories will be brought down in quarter four to manage the working capital position at our customers. And hence, at this point, our best outlook is that we will see somewhat lower volumes.

Linus Larsson

analyst
#17

Sure. I was more asking, or wondering, like a, on a year-over-year basis, but I don't know if you can add anything.

Ivar Vatne

executive
#18

No, I can take it. I don't think there's anything specific per se. It's been pretty good momentum going into Q3, and we had nice runnability. So there is nothing specific per se that stands out. It's a little bit up versus Q2. And as Andrei said, we have strong order books also into Q4, but everything else equal, maybe slightly down just because of customers trying to manage carefully their year-end position. But there's nothing else really out to be noted Q3 year-over-year.

Operator

operator
#19

We will now proceed to take our next question from the line of Ephrem Ravi from Citigroup.

Ephrem Ravi

analyst
#20

Just a couple of follow-up questions on costs. Firstly, on the logistics side, of the SEK 60 million sequential cost increases that you are talking about, would it be fair to say that most of it is logistics, given, if I heard you correctly, most of your energy is hedged? And could you give us a sense of your total kind of absolute logistics cost base, if you can, on a full-year basis? Secondly, on the qualitative guidance around the different markets in the different regions, obviously Europe is normalizing. What sort of, how far, or how much below normal, would you say Europe is? Is it 10% or 20%, or is it two quarters out in your assessment?

Andrei Kres

executive
#21

Yes, Ephrem I can start. So in terms of the cost headwinds into the fourth quarter, yes, that is primarily logistics. I would say, of the SEK 60 million in headwind, roughly two-thirds is logistics, but we will see higher, seasonally higher energy costs as well. And as you know, we are not 100% hedged, so the spot share there will impact also quarter four. If you look at the total logistics costs for the group, it's roughly SEK 3.5 billion for both regions per year.

Ivar Vatne

executive
#22

I can take the second one. It's a bit of a tough one to answer. I think the sentiment in Europe has taken some steps up from low levels from the beginning of the year. Consumer sentiment has been muted for quite a bit of time. You have to probably also go into a bit more specific on channels and categories to get a balance. But for us, food and beverage is the biggest channel in Europe and that's performing pretty well with some slight growth in the category. Obviously, we've been benefiting on that. Industrial has also been pretty solid, in the sense of Eastern Europe and what we could export out to Africa and Asia. So that has been in some sense good and we foresee that it will hold certainly into the end of the year. So luxury is still very weak. And cartonboard, in particular, is the category which still I think is a bit stagnant in Europe in the sense of our packaging space. There's just a lot of capacity out there and that's where we clearly see the demand is struggling the most.

Operator

operator
#23

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Martin Melbye from [indiscernible].

Martin Melbye

analyst
#24

When you refer to higher prices going to be announced during the quarter, which segments, which products are we talking about there?

Ivar Vatne

executive
#25

So Martin, I think it's not a very clear as an answer. I think we can say that on sack, we know there will be a price increase coming from the beginning of '27. And I think if I just spin out on what also Andrei talked about, we know that some of the pricing announcements that hit us in Q3 were done at energy levels and especially gas prices in Europe, which were lower than we currently see now. And looking now that if this continues, even speculating if there is a cold winter coming, then I think there's every reason to believe that this will continue. I think it's reasonable to say that both containerboard and also cartonboard will be benefiting that on top of our paper grades. But nothing is really announced right now, but it's just when we look at where the market is trending, we see also some of the drivers that has been helping us so far in Q3. This is our best view.

Martin Melbye

analyst
#26

Okay. And on energy costs heading into 2027, do you care to give some guidance there?

Andrei Kres

executive
#27

Well, Martin, I can provide some [ guidance ]. If we look at our positions now in terms of hedging, so we have roughly two-thirds of our exposure hedged for 2027. And I think as we mentioned, we start to hedge quite early, so three years before we enter the year, which means that this is -- it's not on the levels we are at now that we are hedging at the most of it. So it should actually be a pretty stable development year-over-year. And we expect to have 80% hedged when we enter the year and then 20% will be exposed to spot.

Martin Melbye

analyst
#28

Okay. And if you were to mark-to-market the entire portfolio, was that be stable or was that for the hedged part?

Andrei Kres

executive
#29

Sorry, Martin, can you repeat?

Martin Melbye

analyst
#30

I think you said stable year-over-year in 2027, despite higher energy cost. Or was that just a comment on the hedged part of the portfolio?

Andrei Kres

executive
#31

Yes. And then, of course, I mean, the spot exposure that we will have in 2027, yes, will depend on what energy prices we have. So I'm unable to provide guidance on that.

Operator

operator
#32

We will now move to our next question. And our next question comes from Cole Hathorn from Jefferies.

Cole Hathorn

analyst
#33

I'd just like to follow up on the positive volume development in 3Q and how that goes into 4Q for Europe. Am I right in assuming that the majority of the positive volumes is containerboard and the kraft paper side? Or were there some liquid packaging board volumes? And then when you think into fourth quarter, which is the segments do you think that customers are managing their working capital? Is it more on the liquid packaging board side? That's the first one, and then I've got a follow-up.

Ivar Vatne

executive
#34

Yes, I mean, I can start, and then maybe Andrei has some comments in. I think we have seen broad-based, pretty strong growth within region Europe. Most segments have had a pretty good run. When we look at, and this is not necessarily an answer that hits everyone, but there is, especially for the European customers pretty much across any category, a pretty high discipline around year-end position. A bit more leeway for volume that goes overseas. There's a little bit longer delivery times at the moment and trying to source the volume is of high priority. But everything else equal, we had a good run in Q3. Our order books are pretty good, so we would still expect a good volume performance in Q4, but pretty a little bit lower just based on typically what we see on customers managing their year-end positions.

Cole Hathorn

analyst
#35

And then you called out the CO2 loss of allowances into 2026 and quantified that. You made a comment about 2027 losing something more. Is there any kind of color you can give on loss allowances into 2027, if there's a quantified amount into 2027?

Andrei Kres

executive
#36

Yes, I can take that. If we look at 2026 to start with, we lost, as we've communicated, free allowance of emission rights. And that has historically been approximately SEK 0.5 billion of EBITDA impact since we've sold them. Now instead, in 2026, we are now subject to carbon tax and that's a headwind of approximately SEK 100 million for us, 2026. Looking into 2027, there is still legislation and decisions to be made by the legislators. But we will not be subject to carbon tax and we will instead be required to deliver the emission rights. So year-over-year into 2027, the impact should be pretty neutral because they are more or less the same.

Cole Hathorn

analyst
#37

And then you've done well on the CapEx side to make sure that you don't spend too much on CapEx and you've given your 2027 CapEx guidance. Could you just remind us, firstly, on North America, what are the kind of medium-term targets for those packaging volumes between boxboard and containerboard? Just what are you trying to achieve out to 2030, just so we've got that as a reminder? And you talk about no major strategic CapEx needs. I remember a while ago there were questions around the recovery boiler and replacements out in kind of 2030. Anything that we need to think about there on the recovery boiler, or is that still quite far out for you that you don't need to make any investment decisions near term?

Ivar Vatne

executive
#38

I can take that one. So if I start in Europe, yes, I mentioned this already: There are no big items planned. We do have a boiler in Gavle, but at some point will need to be taken care of. Right now, we're not looking at any decision before 2030. That's the latest data point we have there, but we'll continue to monitor. I think in North America, so what we said going into '26 was that we were targeting around 50,000 tonnes. We will probably come a bit lower than that when we close the books and that's also partly because we had some tight supply situations around the summer and partly had to prioritize some other categories. But we do have a long-term target of reaching 300,000 tonnes when we come up towards 2030. So for that equation to hold, we're still targeting a pretty aggressive growth also going into '27 and onwards. This momentum continues. We're getting more customer attention and trials and qualifications. Momentum is solid. We can probably come back to that in a bit more detail when we come with our Q4 report for '27 expectations.

Operator

operator
#39

[Operator Instructions] We now have a follow-up question from the line of Cole Hathorn from Jefferies.

Cole Hathorn

analyst
#40

So I'll take the liberty to ask another one. I never asked you this quarter on the views of sack and specialty kraft, considering the market is quite small. Just some color on how it developed on the specialty kraft side, order books and demand, and then similar for the white sack and brown sack grades.

Ivar Vatne

executive
#41

No, I can do that. Common problem. I think if I start with sack, there is pretty good positive momentum on both white and brown. There is a positive pricing impact from Q4 onward on both grades. And as already mentioned, we are targeting another pricing when we come into the beginning of '27. The situation in Europe is a bit wait-and-see. There are a lot of last-minute orders. Construction, where we have our cement bags, is down, while food and bulk are up a couple of percentage, and that's mainly the white sack. So situation in Europe is stable to slow. It goes into the same camp, we already mentioned, where customers are afraid to sit on high inventory by year-end. Overseas, it's better, with quite long lead times and customers are in a pretty more positive spirit. Strong in Northern and East Africa, LatAm and Asia, brown sack and construction sector is actually performing a bit better than we thought some quarters ago. And we also have some very good products there. We have QuickFill Plus Xcel and that has been a recent innovation that has been performing extremely well so far. We are really happy. And then more the specialty paper, yes, there has been pricing coming in from the beginning of the quarter that has held. We are pretty fully booked on all of our MG machines, and that's something that we go into Q4. But having said that, it is starting to slow down towards the end of the quarter. And we also expect customers here to kind of dial it down towards the end to avoid sitting on too much inventory. And it's also here in Europe, orders are also coming in on short notice. Yes, interleaving paper in Asia is also dropping now quite heavily towards the end, but pretty okay. Yes, we also expect some pickup on medical papers due to our latest innovations on SteriKraft and PharmaKraft. But honestly, that will also maybe become more credible when we're into '27.

Operator

operator
#42

Do you have further questions?

Cole Hathorn

analyst
#43

Yes. Just one last follow-up on pulpwood is you called out stable into Q4. How should we think about that now? Should we be thinking about wood costs effectively stable from here because, even though index prices may be lower, it is offset by cost at the mill gate with diesel? Just some guidance for Q4 and into 2027 on how you see wood costs developing.

Andrei Kres

executive
#44

Yes. Looking at 2026, I think our expectation of pulpwood costs coming down has materialized. That has, of course, been supported by the [ storm ] volumes that we have seen in mid-Sweden, to some extent as you say, offset by higher diesel prices. So for Q4, we're pretty sure where we will stand. Looking into 2027, this is probably when we will start seeing the impact of the storm volumes being taken care of. So I think for 2027, our best estimate right now will be flat costs compared to 2026, which means that we are actually expecting that when storm volumes are out, we will have a slight increase on prices. But on average, '27 versus '26 should be stable at this point.

Operator

operator
#45

There are no further questions at this time. I'll hand the call back to Lena for closing comments.

Lena Schattauer

executive
#46

So that concludes this conference. Thank you all for your interest and for participating. And welcome back the 2nd of February, when we report our Q4 and year-end results. Thanks, and goodbye.

Operator

operator
#47

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect your lines.

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