BioCryst Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (BCRX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 30, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the BioCryst conference call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference may be recorded. I'd now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, John Bluth at BioCryst. Please go ahead.
John Bluth
executiveThanks very much, Liz. Good morning, and welcome to BioCryst conference call to provide a data update from our ongoing dose-ranging study in treatment-naïve PNH patients using monotherapy with our oral Factor D inhibitor, BCX9930. Today's press release and slides are available on our website. Participating with me today are CEO, Jon Stonehouse; Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Bill Sheridan; and Dr. Andrew McDonald, the leading clinical hematologist from Victoria South Africa who has enrolled several PNH patients in the trial. Before we begin, please note that today's conference call will contain forward-looking statements, including those statements regarding future results, unaudited and forward-looking financial information as well as the company's future performance and/or achievements. These statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties, which may cause our actual results, performance or achievements to be materially different from any future results or performance expressed or implied in this presentation. You should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. For additional information, including a detailed discussion of our risk factors, please refer to the company's documents filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which can be accessed on our website. I'd now like to turn the call over to Jon Stonehouse.
Jon Stonehouse
executiveThanks, John, and thanks to everyone for joining us this morning. Our company is transforming. You need look no further than the next 90 days to see the evidence of this transformation. Multiple data readouts like the one we have today, a major market approvals, transforming BioCryst into a company with a meaningful commercial product and a robust pipeline. Today, we're very excited to be sharing new data for oral BCX99 therapy -- BCX9930 as monotherapy at doses through 400 milligrams BID in treatment-naïve patients. With 9930, we have an oral Factor D inhibitor that we believe is a pipeline in a molecule. You'll hear today from Bill and Dr. McDonald about the outstanding results we're seeing with this monotherapy in PNH patients. PNH is just one of many potential disease targets for this molecule, and we expect to move 9930 into multiple advanced development clinical trials in hematology and nephritis indications next year. The FDA has granted us both fast track status and orphan drug designation, and we have confirmed meetings with regulators in the fourth quarter to discuss next steps for our advanced development program. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Bill to walk you through the data. Bill?
William Sheridan
executiveGood morning, and thanks, Jon. It is exciting for me to be presenting an update on our Factor D program. The strong benefit in PNH patients and safety profile, at the higher doses, builds on our previously disclosed data and continue the path forward to advance clinical development studies with BCX9930. Before walking through the new data, it is important to frame why Factor D represents such an attractive target for complement-mediated diseases. As you can see on Slide 4, Factor D, the first enzyme in the complement alternative pathway. No active Factor B can be made without Factor D. Locking Factor D locks both alternative pathway amplification and downstream complement activity, and can allow for treatment of a wide variety of diseases, including a growing list of kidney and systemic illnesses as well as PNH. All of these are serious and potentially life-threatening diseases and have either no approved treatments or only lifelong intravenous infusions available. For our dose-ranging study of 9930, we chose PNH because it's a well-understood and reliable biomarker profile related to hemolysis and anemia. As you can see on Slide 5, the opportunities for treatment with the complement Factor D inhibitor are to control intravascular hemolysis in all PNH patients and control the extravascular hemolysis in PNH patients treated with C5 inhibitors. The most informative hemolysis biomarkers are lactate dehydrogenase or LDH for short, for interventional hemolysis and optimized PNH red blood cells for extravascular hemolysis. In both intravascular and extravascular hemolysis are controlled, the PNH red blood cells survived normally and the size of the PNH red cell climb relative to PNH granulocytes goes up. The measurable clinical outcome goals of controlling hemolysis in PNH are reduction or elimination of red blood cell transfusions, improvement in hemoglobin levels and reduction or elimination of PNH symptoms. Experts recommend that clinical responses in PNH are assessed over a month, and also take into account the underlying degree of impairment of the patient's bone marrow. Patients with impaired narrow function can show slower hemoglobin responses and more limited hemoglobin improvements after control of the molecules. With that background, now let's look at the data we've accumulated to date in PNH patients naïve-to-C5 inhibitor therapy and dosed with BCX9930 as monotherapy at 200 and 400 milligrams BID. The design of the trial and key eligibility criteria are summarized on Slide 6. As you can see on Slide 7, the PNH patients in our trial all had severe disease. 5 of 7 required transfusions, 4 had impaired bone marrow function and all had markedly elevated LDH levels, indicating active intravascular hemolysis. Duration and dosing for each patient is shown on Slide 8. 6 patients have been dosed with BCX9930 at 200 milligrams or higher. 3 of these patients had the dose titrated to 200 milligrams and then 400 milligrams after receiving lower doses in cohort 1. 3 treatment-naïve patients enrolled so far in cohort 2 of the trial began dosing twice daily at 200 milligrams for 14 days, and then the dose escalated to the 400-milligram dose level. At the time of the data cut, one of these patients had completed more than 28 days of therapy, and the other 2 are still dosing in the initial 28-day study window. You'll recall that even at our lower doses of 50 and 100 milligrams, which we reported in May, we are seeing rapid declines in LDH, increases in hemoglobin and significantly improved clinical outcomes for PNH patients. At these higher doses, we are seeing an even stronger response on these key metrics. As shown on Slides 9 and 10, even though the 4 patients who have progressed to 400 milligrams have only received that dose for an average of 53 days, all 4 are transfusion-free, with a mean change from baseline in hemoglobin of 3.8 grams per deciliter. 3 of 4 had average LDH less than 1.5x upper limit of normal, with a mean reduction in LDH from baseline of 70%, and mean red cell -- PNH red blood cell clone size relative to PNH granulocytes clone cells has approximately doubled from 48% pretreatment to 94%. This means that BCX9930 monotherapy is, on average, almost completely blocking hemolysis and preventing optimization. If we take a look at the individual patient plots on Slide 10, we can see clear evidence that the 400-milligram dose performed better than the 200-milligram dose. This is perhaps 15 patient B whose data is in the left-most panel. Although there was an excellent hemoglobin response at 100 milligrams and 200 milligrams, hemolysis persisted as indicated by the instability of LDH and hemoglobin. But with the 400-milligram dose, the hemoglobin is rising and LDH is at a too low. When interpreting LDH, we also need to remember that a higher hemoglobin from more PNH red blood cells will result in higher LDH, even with the same proportional rate of hemolysis. The right-most panel is also instructed. This is patient E, the first patient in cohort 2, where we started 200 milligrams and then increased to 400 milligrams on day 15. The response is immediate but again, the 400-milligram BID dose level is superior. When we look at the hemoglobin and LDH responses for all 4 patients together, we can see just how strong the data looks. The safety profile BCX9930 continues to be excellent. BCX9930 has been safe and well tolerated in the trial with no discontinuation due to related AEs, no related serious adverse events and no safety signals. The most common treatment immersion adverse event is mild-to-moderate headache, soon after starting dosing and lasting at most a few days. The fourth patient in cohort 1 had a mild rash during dosing of 50 milligrams that resolved during uninterrupted dosing through dose escalation to 100 milligram. This patient continues on therapy at 500 milligrams twice a day. One patient in cohort 2 had a mild rash at 200 milligrams that is resolving during uninterrupted dosing through dose escalation to 400 milligrams twice a day. Perhaps most importantly, PNH patients in the trial are reporting dramatic improvements in how they feel and their quality of life. To provide a further perspective on this, it is my pleasure to introduce Dr. Andrew McDonald, who has enrolled and treated several patients in our trial. Dr. McDonald is a leading clinical hematologist and private practices in Pretoria, South Africa. Dr. McDonald's research interest have included stem cell transplantation and novel treatments for leukemia, aplastic anemia, multiple myelomea -- myeloma and PNH, and he serves as principal investigator for drug trial such as institution. He is currently the Director of the Stem Cell Transplant program at Alberts Cellular Therapy in Pretoria. Andrew, many thanks for taking time out of your hectic schedule to join our call.
Andrew McDonald;Pretoria East Hospital;Clinical Haematologist, Alberts Cellular Therapy
attendeeSo thank you, Bill, and I would like to echo what you said in terms of the data and what we're seeing in our patients. So, so far, we've enrolled 3 patients, and we are about to enter the fourth active study drug tomorrow on 1st of October. And our experience with the drug has been excellent. We've had one patient who had a transient rush, who was patient 4. I just noted that the rash was very transient and not significant. All of our patients have had very mild headache, the first few days of administration of drug, which is rapidly settled with very minimal intervention. And all of our patients are actually doing excellently, and there's no other word for it. We -- the quality of life has improved. What they're telling us. They have much less fatigue, much more functional and as noted in the study, we haven't had any transfusion needs since starting drug. So from my experience so far on the study, we have had very good, if not excellent, responses to the drug. And as I said -- as noted, we are continuing to enroll patients on study and we are very happy with the performance of both the study drug and the trial at present. So I'm going to hand you -- just in terms -- say -- so I think this is a very bright future in terms of therapy in terms of PNH. And then obviously, we will need to see where it applies to any other complement opportunities. So I think back to you, Bill.
William Sheridan
executiveThanks very much, Andrew, for all the work you are doing on behalf of PNH patients in South Africa. Before year-end 2020, we expect to report data in PNH patients with an inadequate response to C5 therapy who will be dosed at the cohort 2 dose level of 200 and 400 milligrams BID. This data should provide our first look at the impact of BCX9930 in preventing extravascular hemolysis. We also plan to wrap up our dose explorations in PNH patients with 500 milligrams BID dosing. With every respect of additional experience we have achieved with BCX9930, we gained more confidence with this oral monotherapy will play a significant role in improving patient outcomes and quality of life for patients with PNH and other complement-mediated diseases.
Jon Stonehouse
executiveThanks, Bill, and thanks, Andrew. These data support our goal of bringing an oral monotherapy to patients with PNH. Bill laid out, we plan to complete this dose-ranging study, and we'll provide another update that includes data from patients who have an inadequate response to C5 inhibitors at year-end. Beyond that, we plan to progress into advanced development and clinical trials across multiple complement-mediated diseases next year. Bill and his team has spent a tremendous amount of time in advisory board meetings and other interactions with key opinion leaders in hematology and nephrology, and we have gained their insight into the best approaches to clinical trial design, and have clearly heard their enthusiasm for 9930. When you add it all together, 9930 moving into advanced development in multiple indications, revenues coming next year from the upcoming approvals of Orladeyo in the U.S., Japan and Europe, and the potential value to global public health as we report out data and advance our COVID-19 program with galidesivir, BioCryst is emerging into a commercial stage company with several outstanding assets that can deliver value to patients and shareholders. We look forward to updating you frequently over the remainder of the year and we -- as we continue to achieve our milestones. So that's it for the prepared remarks. Operator, we'll now open it up for questions.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Jessica Fye with JPMorgan.
Jessica Fye
analystCurious how reticular sites have trended over time, particularly on higher doses and in the context of this continued improvement in hemoglobin you're seeing?
William Sheridan
executiveSure. I just -- let me refer you to the baseline characteristics of the subjects and the eligibility criteria. But the eligibility criteria included having a CSF count above 100,000. And so that was the case in all subjects. The 4 subjects at the higher doses we reported today, 2 had reticulocytes blood counts less than 150,000 at baseline and had stayed under that metric, which is in the expert guidelines about how to assess response, and the other 2 have fallen below 150,000. So all 4 are below 150,000.
Jessica Fye
analystGreat. And then just a follow-up question on the -- you mentioned one of the patients continued on up to -- I think it was 500 milligrams BID. Can you just explain kind of what the possibilities are for continued up-dosing as patients stay on study?
William Sheridan
executiveSure. So we're really happy with the results we're seeing at 400 milligrams twice a day, and it's certainly a potential dose to take forward. We want to round out, whether or not we can pick up the remaining 6% in terms of red cell to granulocytes clone size that I mentioned. And so we think it's worthwhile testing 500 milligrams twice a day to do that. So that will round out our dose explorations for twice-only dosing of the drug. And we'll be in good shape to move forward after that. So already, 3 subjects have escalated to that dose.
Jessica Fye
analystAnd is it the criteria for patients to do that based on the clone size to -- bring on that ratio? Or what is the criteria for doing that?
William Sheridan
executiveNot specifically. It's a clinical judgment for the site investigator to make as to whether it's reasonable to dose escalate with the combination of safety tolerability and hematological markers. And as I mentioned on the call, we haven't actually had any evidence at all of any dose-related safety, tolerability coming out of this. We can't distinguish the safety, tolerability, which is safe and well tolerated at 50 milligrams compared to 400 milligrams. That's a great result.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Tyler Van Buren with Piper Sandler.
Tyler Van Buren
analystGreat to see the results. I guess on the mean hemoglobin increase from baseline of 3.8 grams per deciliter. Can you just talk a little bit more about the time course to really achieve that magnitude? Clearly, some of the patients have a different follow-up times and from responded at different times. And then can you also just talk about how you expect that to change when you move from these naïve patients to patients who have inadequate response to C5 inhibitors as we look to compare it to, say, the PEGASUS datasets or comparative data?
William Sheridan
executiveLet me make a remark, and then I'll hand it to Dr. McDonald to put some color. As I mentioned, impaired bone marrow function is a feature of many patients with this disease. And depending on how well the bone marrow works and that commitment, the rate of hemoglobin increase. That being said, you can see from the data we presented today, for example, in the panel on Slide 9, that people who had pretty good bone marrow function can have pretty rapid increases in hemoglobin once Hemolysis is under control. So ultimately, the hemoglobin rest is going to really depend on the underlying marrow function. And it's pretty clear that we can get control of hemolysis of this drug. Andrew, I don't know, maybe, you want to add any color to that. But the lack of transfusions and the very substantial rise in hemoglobin is exactly what we wanted to see in that trial.
Andrew McDonald;Pretoria East Hospital;Clinical Haematologist, Alberts Cellular Therapy
attendeeNo. I mean I think from our side point of view, the -- within the first month, I think there were 1 or 2 patients who dropped the 2-week or the 1-week and 2-week mark. But by 28 days, all of them had increasing hemoglobins. But I think even more than the hemoglobin measurements, patients who are actually feeling significantly better, I mean, are reading significantly in a qualitative way, but they were feeling much better on drug, even in the first 1 to 2 weeks of therapy. So the hemoglobin lag by 28 days, they're much improved, and all of them are doing significantly better.
William Sheridan
executiveWith regard to the -- your question about cross-study comparison with different patient populations in different studies of different designs, that's always hard to do with that. And I think that data really stands on its own.
Tyler Van Buren
analystYes. And just as a quick follow-up. There's 2 patients that had that initial hemoglobin drop. Is the magnitude of that drop concerning to you at all? And can you just explain why that's happening?
William Sheridan
executiveDose was 50 milligrams twice a day, so the dose wasn't high enough basically. So we -- remember, this is our first exploration of different doses in this disease, that's really important to do. And so we set up the design because it's such a rare disease and the patient is so fragile that we don't want to be administering doses that are not high enough to many patients. And so we want to get through that very quickly. Fortunately, we've got the biomarkers to help guide us. So the LDH can tell us pretty quickly how well we're doing. And the hemoglobin, if it's falling, that tells you that the dose is not adequate. So as soon as the dose is increased to 100, that trajectory was reversed. And the 200 milligrams and 400 milligrams, clearly, the whole biomarker suite is telling us that the 400-milligram doses is superior.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Brian Abrahams with RBC Capital Markets.
Brian Abrahams
analystIt looked like you saw potentially steeper biomarker improvements in patient E, that first patient who started at the 200 mg dose. I'm just wondering maybe even sort of qualitatively, if you're starting to see those same types of trends on hemoglobin and LDH for patients' F and G, realizing that the follow-up is much shorter there?
William Sheridan
executiveThanks for the question, Brian. So at the time of the data cut, the follow-up is too short to comment. Patient E absolutely does look like a spectacular response because it is. And the clone size, as a proportion of the granulocytes clone size just in that short period, has gone up from 36% to 92%. So that's where we agree with you that that's a spectacular response. I think that each individual accounts and teaches us something. The other thing that we can see from the data is we can start the drug at high doses without a problem.
Brian Abrahams
analystGot it. And then in the first few patients who had received dose 50 -- started the 50 mg dose and moved to 100 initially, it did look like you -- there was an LDH spike observed in those patients, which then resuppressed when the dose was further escalated. Just wondering if there was sort of anything associated with those LDH spikes, stress events, for instance? And your level of confidence that there's -- there won't be any sort of, I guess, tachyphylaxis type of events, even at the higher doses with longer dosing?
William Sheridan
executiveVery good question. So I think I'll take the tachyphylaxis question, first. It's a technical term for the development and tolerance to the actions of the drug and loss of efficacy. So if we look at the left-hand panel on Slide 9, the way those hemoglobins are staying up over now 6 months, teaches us that there's no tachyphylaxis with this drug. So I think we can rule that out. One wouldn't expect it from a biology because Factor D really is not regulated. There's no receptor involved, there's no potential for receptor down-regulation or other biological mechanisms that could go into the idea of the development of tolerance. With regard to the LDH spike, they tell a really interesting story. So if we look at patient D, the second panel from the right on Slide 10, the very brief spike at around about day 13 was associated with an [indiscernible] tract infection, and remember at day 13 in cohort 1, patients are taking an inadequate dose of 50 milligrams twice a day. So even though the LDH has started to fall with an infection, there was an episode of hemolysis in the [indiscernible] LDH rows that was quickly controlled with resolution of the infection, of course, but also with increase in the dose to 100 milligrams twice a day. And LDH, by the way, has a celcuity half-life of about 1.5 days. So 5 or 6.5 lives later, you had a new steady state in terms of interpreting hemolysis. And as we follow the LDH in that patient after that at the higher doses, it's been very well controlled. The other one that's -- there are another 2 panels actually that very helpful in dose response, looking at LDH. The patients see the second panel from the left, 100 milligrams is doing okay, but the LDH was rising a little bit. And similarly, at 100 milligrams in patient B, the LDH was rising despite the hemoglobin having responded. And what that's telling you is that there's still room for more hemolysis control despite the hemoglobin response. And in both subjects, when the dose was increased to 200 milligrams and then to 400 milligrams, we've got much better control. So the -- as I mentioned in my introductory remarks, one of the main reasons we chose PNH is because of the value of the biomarkers in teaching us what dose we need to use. So I think all of that hangs together. Finally, in terms of worry about breakthrough hemolysis, now that's a concern for all complement inhibitors, whether they're intravenous or oral. And the goal here is to get patients on a great dose and keep them on it, and keep them taking their therapies. And so we -- that's another reason we're exploring 500 milligrams twice a day because it might just give us a little bit more forgiveness from these doses.
Jon Stonehouse
executiveThat's really -- oh, go ahead, Brian. Go ahead.
Brian Abrahams
analystNo, I was just going to say that's really helpful color, Bill.
Jon Stonehouse
executiveSo Bill, I think Dr. McDonald has patients to see. So I just wanted to make sure -- he said he had stop at the top of the hour. So Andrew, again, thank you so much for both participating in the call today and participating in this study.
Andrew McDonald;Pretoria East Hospital;Clinical Haematologist, Alberts Cellular Therapy
attendeeOkay. Good luck, guys. Thank you.
Jon Stonehouse
executiveThanks. Bill, I have a follow-up question for you, and that is patients from both cohorts at 400 milligrams teach us a lot, right? Because in 1 setting, you have patients going up in dose. So you see with more drug to patients do better. And then the other situation where they're starting at the higher doses, you see that the tolerability profile changes, the safety profile changes and what kind of response you get at the higher doses. Is that a true statement?
William Sheridan
executiveAbsolutely correct. And the design of the study is perhaps unusual but very deliberate. And the reason is twofold. First is this is a very rare disease. So we want to be as economical as possible and learn as much as we can from every person. And secondly, we want to step through lower doses that turn out to be not as good as higher doses as fast as we can in a short time as we can so that the patients get the best treatment. So that's why we included both escalation of doses across cohorts and also titration of doses up in individual subjects. And I'm super pleased with the results. So every person at every dose level is teaching us something.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Maurice Raycroft with Jefferies.
Maurice Raycroft
analystAnd congrats on the data update today. Just digging into dosing a little bit more. So for both patients, C and D, they had compromised bone marrow. However, the kinetics of hemoglobin increase was much faster in patient E, who started at a higher dose versus patient C that started at a lower dose. And so I'm just wondering if you could talk more about the relevance of this? And could you potentially move forward with a different dosing strategy based on whether bone marrow is compromised or based on any other baseline characteristics?
William Sheridan
executiveTo answer the last question, first, no, I don't think so. I think with a drug whose safety and tolerability profile is indistinguishable at higher doses versus lower doses. There's no reason to think of different dosing strategies. Everybody can get the same dose at the end of the day. So there's no reason to think of that. So I think the classification of impaired bone marrow function is based on the platelet count, the neutrophil count and the hemoglobin and need for transfusions. So I think that there are broad brush classifications and don't necessarily predict how quickly somebody will respond. And they also -- that classification is useful, but it also doesn't take into account the overall size of the PNH claim. So you can imagine that if you have impaired bone marrow function that most of your circulating red cells are from the PNH clone and they're getting destroyed very quickly that you could have a brilliant response to a complement inhibitor as soon as you introduce it and especially, if you're introducing a really good dose. So that's likely what is happening in patient E.
Maurice Raycroft
analystGot it. That's helpful. And these data don't really tease out the possibility of using a QD dosing regimen yet. I guess what are your latest thoughts on QD dosing based on what you've seen so far?
William Sheridan
executiveSo it's interesting to look at, and we're exploring it in the healthy subjects. And I think that what the type of PK profile you get with once-daily dosing for any drug compared to twice-daily dosing is a lower trough level before the next dose compared for once-a-day dosing compared to twice-a-day dosing. So that could be important here. I think we're really, really happy with the twice-daily dosing profile. And for the moment, we think that the twice-daily dosing gives us more forgiveness for potential missed doses when the drugs being used outside the context of the clinical trial. But yes, we may choose to look at the once-daily dosing, like, for example, 1 gram a day before the study concludes.
Maurice Raycroft
analystGot it. And just one more quick question. I'm wondering for your 4Q meeting with regulators, can you talk about what potential outcomes you're trying to get from that meeting? And will you only be discussing PNH? Or will you also discuss potential to expand into other complement-mediated indications?
William Sheridan
executiveSo we'll be doing both. And what we're trying to get out of those meetings is the regulator's guidance on the next stage of development here and moving this drug from the proof-of-concept stage into advanced development. So it's all about study design endpoints, say, eligibility criteria and the like, selection of patient populations. It's all of the questions that you would want to ask in those types of regulatory interactions. So I'm super pleased that the remainder of the year is busy with regulatory interactions and look forward to next year and getting this drug into advanced development studies.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Gena Wang with Barclays.
Huidong Wang
analystI also wanted to add my congratulation to the data update. So I have 2 sets of questions. First is also regarding the dosing schedule. Just wondering the -- once you identify certain dose, for the typical study, will you still try to maintain a dose escalation phase, like what we're seeing right now, like 2 different doses? Or will you just go directly to the final dose in -- for the pivotal study? And then another set of question was regarding safety. Basically, for the headache, it seems to happen in all patients. So when did event happen? And how many times did each patient had their headache? And similar question for rash. You listed 2 patients had a rash. Are these all the events that we've seen so far? And then also, did the rash, also, how long was it resolved? And also did the rash happened again within the same patient?
William Sheridan
executiveGena, thanks for the question. In terms of the Phase III dosing, no, the individual patient, both titration and dose escalation that we're employing in the proof-of-concept study is just a means to an end, really, just to figure out what dose or doses we should take forward. Whether it's one or more doses tested in the next study is really an outcome of regulatory discussions. And so what we expect to see there is either if it's one dose, just everybody will get that dose. And if regulators wanted to test a couple of different doses then different cohorts will be getting different doses, but the same dose for that individual throughout the study. With regards to the headache, it's a really interesting phenomenon. And it's common to complement inhibitors in PNH, whether there are C5 inhibitors or any other sort of complement inhibitors that's working. So it's the same that the drug is working. And the experts in the field work this out because intravascular hemolysis, release of hemoglobin into the circulation at pre-hemoglobin scavenges nitric oxide. Nitric oxide is a very important regulator of endothelial cell function in the blood vessels and vascular tone ultimately. And so that gets reset. Once you start a complement inhibitor, all of that gets reset back to normal when you get a vascular headache. So it's not unique to BCX9930. The same phenomenon that described with eculizumab and ravulizumab, for example. And we expect it to occur in most patients with the sign of the drug working, and it occurs early in therapy and market -- Dr. McDonald mentioned, it's relatively trivial. Didn't require any special intervention, last maybe 1 to 3 days. And that phenomenon, once you've started the drug and stay on the drug, it does not recur. With regards to the rash, Dr. McDonald said, the subject with the rash is insignificant. So it's clinically not an important phenomenon. The person who had the rash at 50 milligrams that resolved as we escalated the dose to 100 milligrams with a mild rash that lasted for about 10 days. And no, it hasn't recurred, and we wouldn't expect it to. And again, the thinner type of the rash is just a very simple thing that so far, all the evidence safely is going to resolve spontaneously with continued dosing of the drug. And you also asked have we see seen anymore? No, we haven't seen anymore.
Jon Stonehouse
executiveYes. And Gena, I'd add as far as adverse events goes, whether it's the headache or rash, it goes away and doesn't come back, which is really important.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Tazeen Ahmad with Bank of America.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystCongrats on the data. Just one more question as it relates to safety and understanding that both with the observations that have been discussed so far, headache and rash, do go away. As it relates to the rash specifically, though, do you know what's causing the rash mechanistically? And then secondly, as far as the dosing, are you trying to identify what the maximum tolerated dose is or the RP2D? Or have you already have a good sense of what that could be? Is there a chance that you would opt to go to doses that are higher than what you've seen so far, understanding that you still might see some rash and/or headache in patients if you feel like the efficacy could be much better?
William Sheridan
executiveYes. Tazeen, thanks for the question. So we're so pleased with the efficacy we already have. And with regard to dose selection, there's no need to try to figure out a maximum tolerated dose because of the biomarkers and the utility of those biomarkers in informing what's going on. So it's really fantastic that we can measure things like LDH, hemoglobin, red cell clone size and so on. And that's telling us that the drug is working and that dose -- and will dictate dose selection basically. So the -- we're nearly done there. They're looking at 500 milligrams twice a day. That will round out our dose exploration. And there's absolutely no need to attempt to figure out a maximum tolerated dose. All of the doses have been tolerated extremely well, and we can't distinguish the safety profile across, so far, a tenfold dose range, which is absolutely consistent with the characteristics of the drug that we saw in healthy subjects and the characteristics of the drug that we saw nonclinically. So all of that is telling us that we've got a very well-behaved drug. With regards to the mechanism of the rash, no, that's an interesting potential PHD project for BEBAS PHD, post doctoral -- students or post docs and could take a long time or never. And almost all small molecules, if we dose enough individuals, we'll see a maculopapular rash eventually. And in each individual drug, we sell them understanding the exact mechanisms. There are certainly themes in the literature, but that's a different story, but there's no particular obligation or need to study that and that's because everybody understands that. You might put a lot of effort into it and have some interesting biology, but it really doesn't make any difference clinically, the rash goes away by itself.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystThe reason I had asked about the rash was just to get your thoughts about as you move to patients who may have had other PNH treatments already, whether or not you think if having had other complement inhibition treatment might somehow prime a patient to show more sight of it?
William Sheridan
executiveGood question. Yes, good question. It's extremely unlikely that this is related to complement inhibition. Because if it was related to complement inhibition, it would not go away. Because clearly, the complement inhibition is persistent as for as long as we take the drug. So we don't anticipate that there would be any issue at all in starting patients on BCX9930, whether they're on another complement inhibitor or have had another complement inhibitor.
Jon Stonehouse
executiveAnd Bill, I would add, too, that with all of these AEs, nobody's dropped out as a result of it. We've continued to dose escalate folks, and there seems to be no relationship to dose in these adverse events. Is that a correct statement?
William Sheridan
executiveThat is a correct statement. And I didn't mention one thing that's important about Factor D is the target, which certainly underlies the safety and tolerability and lack of dose-related effects like a safety signal for this drug. And that is that this is a technical point, but it's important so -- and it's unique to Factor D. So the active site of Factor D looks different when in a circulating form of Factor D before it binds to Factor B. So it's -- Dr. Babu's research team at BioCryst took advantage of that and designed inhibitors that bind to the very different confirmation of the active side of Factor D as it's circulating and prevent the confirmational change. Why is that important? It's important because it's unique across all of the serine proteases. It's a different confirmation. And what that means is that the likelihood of this drug binding to other serine proteases and doing anything is remote. So the possibility of healing protease mediated off-target adverse events is very, very, very small.
Operator
operatorYour final question comes from Jon Wolleben with JMP Securities.
Jonathan Wolleben
analystDr. McDonald mentioned some of the benefits he observed in this patients. And I'm wondering if you're capturing fatigue scores or other patient-reported outcomes? And whether or not there is any strict definition or criteria to consider someone having a clinical benefit?
William Sheridan
executiveSure. So 2 great questions. Certainly, we're capturing the PNH symptoms, both baseline and in each visit. And there are tools to measure fatigue. How robust they are in different countries is open to question because they haven't necessarily been validated in different socioeconomic groups or different cultures around the world, but we're exploring those in this study. The theme here is that whatever the symptoms were at baseline, which could include things like erectile dysfunction, difficulty swallowing, abdominal pain, back pain, red urine from the hemolysis, they go away quickly, as Dr. McDonald mentioned. So even at the lower doses, we saw that. So symptomatic improvement is really good. I think that in terms of assessing response, the hematologists rely on eliminating transfusions, increasing the hemoglobin. And after you see those things, then what is the LDH do and what the particular blood count doing is they're relatively minor variables compared to controlling the transfusions and having the hemoglobin go up.
Jonathan Wolleben
analystGot it. And one final one for me. Bill, you mentioned before that if you're seeing strong alternative pathway inhibition, it really opens up a lot of these different conditions. I'm wondering if there's anything you've learned so far in PNH or something you're trying to glean that helps prioritize this expansion that you guys have previously mentioned.
William Sheridan
executiveThat's a fantastic question. So the first thing I would say is that we've had dozens of interactions this year with leading nephrologists, metrologists and hematologists and we've been able to share the evolving data from our PNH study, and they're thrilled with the data. 100% universal reaction is, absolutely, we'd like to collaborate with you and let me teach you about the disease problems that I see in my patients with alternative pathway mediated diseases. So we've had fantastic engagement that tells you 2 things. One is what the medical need is across a whole variety of indications. That's really huge. And second, how attractive this project is. So we have learned, I don't want to preempt our prioritization. We -- in one of the slides, we did provide a laundry list of all the interesting things or some of the interesting things that we've seen so far. They're all highly attractive. Some of them are more difficult to study than others. Some of them take longer to study than others. Some of them have better defined endpoints than others. Regulators might react differently to -- had to study new investigational agents in some disease versus others. So we're going to step through all of that. But the future here is very bright with the pipeline of the project.
Operator
operatorThat concludes today's question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the call back to Jon Stonehouse for closing remarks.
Jon Stonehouse
executiveSo it's an action-packed remainder of the year. This is the first of 6 events. And as Bill told you, we're going to continue to have data with 9930, we're escalating patients up to 500 milligrams twice a day in the naïve population. You heard Dr. McDonald's say that we're filling out the cohort very soon. And so -- and then, of course, the inadequate responder data by year-end. So that's just one of a number of things that we're going to be updating you on and even more importantly, the decisions on approval for Orladeyo. So really excited about the future of BioCryst. As I said, an action-packed remainder of the year, and you can bet that we'll be having further updates between now and the end of the year. So thanks for your interest in our company, and have a great day.
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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