BioCryst Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (BCRX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 10, 2023

NASDAQ US Health Care Biotechnology conference_presentation 31 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#1

Good afternoon. Thanks for joining us. Welcome back to the Bank of America Healthcare Conference. I'm Tazeen Ahmad. I'm one of the Senior SMID biotech analyst here. It's my pleasure to have our next presenting company, BioCryst Pharmaceuticals, which, as a point of trivia, is one of my longest covered names, both as a lead and as an associate analyst. So I've known Jon now many years. Sitting next to me is, of course, CEO, Jon Stonehouse. Welcome back to Vegas, Jon. Thanks for coming.

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#2

Yes. I -- we were talking about how many years. It's probably too long to admit, but it's great to be back here.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#3

Yes, we're always happy to have you.

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#4

Thank you.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#5

So maybe for those folks who aren't as familiar with BioCryst, could you give us a quick 2-minute summary of the company and then we can go into Q&A?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#6

Sure. So I will be making some forward-looking statements, and John Bluth would get angry if I didn't say that those have risks and the risk factors can be found on our website. Yes, we're in a really interesting spot. We have a product on the market that is an oral, once-a-day drug in an injectable market in a rare disease. And we've gotten off to a fantastic start in the launch of that drug, and we're now entering our third year. We expect no less than $320 million in revenue in the third year. For a rare disease launch, I think that's pretty impressive. And we're on our way to $1 billion at peak sales. And so that, by itself, is unique. But we also have a discovery engine at our discovery center in Birmingham, Alabama, and we believe that we can create another ORLADEYO in that discovery center. We weren't lucky. We believe that it was our second-generation kallikrein inhibitor. There's only been one plasma kallikrein inhibitor that is a once-a-day prophylactic therapy that made it to market. Five tried and failed. Our first one was one of those. And so we think we can do it again. And we think with the capital that we have through the growth of ORLADEYO, the recent refinancing of our debt with Pharmakon, and then the great science in the company, we have the potential to build a really valuable company.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#7

Yes. So you have had a great launch with ORLADEYO. I think when you initially come out of the gate, meaningfully beating expectations -- expectations or that you just do that to perpetuity, but that necessarily can't be done at the same pace. So for those who may not have fully appreciated the first quarter's results on the -- I guess, the tenor of the rest of the year, maybe let's talk about what you saw in terms of uptake, where most of your new growth, let's say, in 1Q came from.

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#8

Yes. 1Q was a really good quarter for us. We crossed -- just recently, we crossed the 1,000-patient threshold in the United States, which is impressive, but with 7,500 diagnosed and treated patients in the U.S. with HAE, there's still a lot more to go, so that's exciting. The growth rate in new patients was 46% year-over-year. The net patient adds, on average each year, has been around 300 patients. That's a nice steady trajectory. And so we feel like there is no loss of steam, plenty of opportunity. And it makes sense in an injectable market where you can take an oral once-a-day therapy, why wouldn't you try it. So -- and this is a highly competitive market. There are 8 therapies that have come on to the market in the last 12 years. And so it's a well-served market. People's disease is controlled, so doctors don't see them as often. And then we got to convince them to switch. And that takes a little bit of effort, but we're making some great progress.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#9

Okay. So we talked about the importance of your drug being the only oral available in the market. But as you said, this was -- even though it's a rare disease, it's a pretty crowded space when you entered. And it seems like other companies continue to explore similar or other modalities and all the way, including gene editing. And as you think about the future growth potential of ORLADEYO, what do you think needs to happen in order to reach that $1 billion target? It's not an unrealistic target given that at year 3, you're already at $320 million. But is it going to require that people stay on drug at a certain percent? Or is it going to require just a lot more throughput in terms of new patients coming on? Or is it both?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#10

Well, let me describe what it'll take mathematically. This might help you. So of the 7,500 to get to 80% of that $1 billion coming from the U.S. and 20% from the rest of the world, we need about 2,000 patients in the U.S. on our drug for a full year to get to the roughly $800 million. And so from a market share perspective, that's somewhere between 25% and 30%. That's very reasonable. So then the other questions are, will we keep these patients on? And one of the things we're finding is that -- and this pattern is really stabilized now going into the third year of launch, if you've been on ORLADEYO for a year and you're benefiting from ORLADEYO, the likelihood that you'll stay on ORLADEYO is really high. The attrition rate after a year is 1% to 2%. So if that continues to stabilize, and we keep adding more of those 7,500 to try it, we'll lose some because it doesn't work in everybody. But you can see the math, you can get to 2,000 pretty -- from a pretty straightforward perspective. And then with new competition, we've done, I think, more market research than anybody in this space, both before the launch and since the launch. And we spend a lot of time trying to understand switching, which is a switch market. And it's a sticky market, right? People -- if you're controlled, this was -- there's still a decent amount of Cinryze sales out there where you infuse twice a week. Why is that? Because it saved that patient's life, and they don't want to take the risk of going off that therapy. So what's the incremental benefit of any new therapy to switch off the old one? And with ours, it's the oral, right? If you're controlled on our drug and you're taking a once-a-day drug, what incremental benefit do any of the other therapies offer. And with regard to gene therapy, I just think there's a lot of risk. I talk to a lot of patients and physicians, and while the thought of a cure is appealing to a lot of people, the risk associated with what gene therapy could do scares them. And so we think we can hold on to share and build share over time even with competition, new competition.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#11

Okay. So I think you might have made a comment about -- the $1 billion is totally reasonable. It might just take longer than people than had previously anticipated to get there. Maybe give a little bit of color on why that is.

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#12

There are 2 main causes. One is that this point of satisfaction with your current therapy. And we've got to work with every doctor and every patient on what is the benefit to switching to oral, and word of mouth is starting to spread and patients are saying the oral drug has changed their life. They're taking a capsule a day like their daily vitamin instead of looking at their medicine in the refrigerator, sticking themselves with a sharp needle every 2 weeks, once a month, whatever it is. And so they forget they're sick. That is a huge benefit. And then what's the risk? The risk is you go back to your old therapy if it doesn't work. It's not like there's not rescue therapy if you have a breakthrough attack. And so the risk is really low. So why wouldn't you try it is a really big piece. The second piece is because these people are under control, the doctor doesn't see them as often as they did 10 years ago. So they may make a decision that, yes, I'm ready to switch some of my patients over, but they might not see them for 6 or 12 months from now. So it's just -- it's a longer cycle time. And that's why it's not a hockey stick. It's more of a straight-line steady growth to peak.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#13

Okay. Got it. Now what is your view about patients in the future that you will add? Are they going to be still mostly switch patients? Or are they going to shift more to treatment naive?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#14

Yes. There are 2 populations of switchers, I would call. They're very few newly diagnosed that aren't on any therapy. Very small, like 100 or fewer patients a year. So it's a switch market, and they come from, either on-demand therapy where they're treating their attacks with injectable therapy, or they're on another prophylactic injectable therapy. And right now we're getting about 50-50 of the new patients each quarter. Half are coming from prophylactic switches, half from on-demand. But the on-demand population is shrinking. You have 3 companies, Takeda, CSL and BioCryst are all promoting prophylactic drugs. And so more and more patients are switching to prophylactic. And it's 70-30 now, prophylactic to on-demand. We think it could go to 80-20 or even 90-10. So eventually, it's going to be more prophylactic switches than on-demand therapy switches.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#15

Okay. And where, in particular, would those switches be coming from? Like, what other drug are they switching?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#16

I -- they come mostly from Takhzyro because that's the market leader. Those happen to be the patients that actually do the best on our drug, too, which makes sense. If you're controlled on am antibody that reduces kallikrein, why wouldn't you do well in a small molecule that reduces kallikrein. So -- but we get Haegarda switches as well, and then some Cinryze switches.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#17

Okay. You also recently started a pediatric study. I think you called it the APeX-P for pediatrics.

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#18

P.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#19

Why is it important for that ages 2 and above, 2 to 12 to be addressed?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#20

Yes. It's really important, right. If you're a parent, you definitely know that your children don't like to be stuck with needles. And so it's traumatic for a 6-year-old or 8-year-old to have to get an injection every 2 weeks. And so we've been having parents chasing Bill Sheridan, our Chief Medical Officer, and I down at meetings saying, "Where is the pediatric formulation?" And we have a really interesting formulation that's -- looks like cake sprinkles almost. It's called granules, and it's in a little packet sachet that you sprinkle on yogurt or apple sauce and you can take it very easily for children, so a massive unmet need for this population. It's small. It's probably 500-ish patients in the U.S. But this is a patient for life. It's clearly a segment we should own. And there's a -- I don't know if I want to call it a halo effect, but a follow-on effect, where we've seen with adolescents, a 13-year-old does really well on our drug. And also on the mother or the dad who has HAE says, hey, maybe I should try this drug. My son or daughter are doing really well. So we think there's some carryover to the family, since it's a hereditary disease.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#21

What percent of the HAE population is pediatric?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#22

It's about 500 patients in the U.S. So it's pretty small, less than 10%.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#23

Are they easily found?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#24

Yes. The diagnosis -- most parents that have HAE get their kids tested, I think, within the age of 2 years. And it's a C2 test, C4 test and...

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#25

And are there breakthrough attacks similar to what adults get?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#26

It depends on the child. I would say, in most cases, kids don't start having attacks until puberty and hormonal changes are taking place. But I know some families that have really young kids that are 5 years old that are having multiple attacks per week, so it can be awful.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#27

Okay. And what are they mostly on right now?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#28

Takhzyro's -- I think, has approval now down to 2. And Cinryze, of course, is available as well, but they're injectable therapies, right?

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#29

Okay. All right. So maybe let's, like, move to the pipeline for a few minutes because there's a lot going on there.

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#30

Sure.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#31

Maybe with 10013, can you talk about why you chose to prioritize this particular molecule in your pipeline?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#32

Yes. So let me just back up just for 30 seconds and say, what we're trying to do is, what I said at the beginning, which is show that we can bring forward another ORLADEYO. And so we believe serine proteases are something we're good at, and the complement system is full of them. And so -- and we believe there's a lot of rare diseases with one pathway that we could go after. And so the alternative pathway is where we started. We had early discovery efforts years ago in Factor D, and we started that back up again and came up with 9930, our first generation. That didn't work out. Didn't have the profile that we wanted. And so we switched to 10013. And the reason we really like the potential of 10013 is it could be a once a day drug that controls disease in the alternative pathway. And so we think that could be a best-in-class molecule. It's early. It has risk. But if we get there, we think it could absolutely be another ORLADEYO.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#33

So complement system has now become pretty popular just because of some other companies that have gotten data, positive data in diseases of the eye, for example. As you look at the different potential targets within the complement cascade, both the classic and the alternative, how are you deciding on what you would want to focus on at BioCryst? And what part of your science is best suited for complement-mediated development?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#34

Again, I think small molecule serine proteases is something that we've shown we can do. But that -- and C2 is another target that we're really interested in, and we have program going right now where we're trying to optimize a lead for an oral C2 inhibitor. And then the other idea is the terminal part of the pathway. We think there are some really interesting serine protease targets there as well. And then lastly, combination therapy. One of the things we're hearing in renal diseases is that you got to hit both the classical and lectin and the alternative pathway. And so how do we address that? And so we're looking at all of that. And because there are multiple diseases with one target, there could be lots of opportunity to help there.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#35

Have you talked about what particular diseases you think you'd want to target nearer term?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#36

I think the renal diseases are most interesting to us. We're going to -- in the dose-ranging patient study, we're looking at PNH because you get an answer really fast. You look at the hemoglobin, you look at the LDH levels and you can get an answer if it's effective or it's not effective quickly in a small number of patients. But diseases like IgAN, where there's actually a really interesting subset of the total population that the alternative pathway plays a bigger role, could be really interesting with an oral once-a-day drug.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#37

Yes. You mentioned PNH, which, similar to HAE, is a pretty crowded space. So is it your view that the same formula that you use for HAE, it would be an established market where you could find the patients, but you'd provide the oral option, that would be the same reasoning for wanting to pursue PNH? Or do you think that you could also provide an efficacy advantage?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#38

I think PNH is one of those that really gets us a near-term answer. I think things like IgAN, C3G, aHUS are all indications that are probably more attractive for a once-daily oral. We got to have -- so yes, we want to replicate the ORLADEYO commercial success by having something that there's an incremental benefit. We think once-a-day dosing and similar efficacy could be that incremental benefit.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#39

Right. So Factor D is something that we've talked about before. As a target in the complement cascade, I think other companies have tried to look at it in various different ways. What are you doing differently that gives you confidence that this should be one of the areas of the cascade to focus on?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#40

Yes. Again, I think it's what do we offer that's different. And the pathway is pretty clear. whether you choose Factor B or Factor D, at least so far, it doesn't look like there's a difference. We may find that out in other indications. But I think having a once-a-day dose is really the big difference. Having really good efficacy and a once-daily dose and a safe and effective drug is the key.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#41

Okay. Now can you just give us an update on safety observations for 10013?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#42

Yes. So we had nearly completed the SAD/MAD, and we saw some really impressive drops in the alternative pathway with this Wieslab assay in healthy volunteers. At a single 110-milligram dose, we saw 90 -- almost 98% suppression of the alternative pathway, so that was really exciting. We were running our toxicology program, and you have early toxicology for 28 days; then you do the mid 13-week study; and then you do the chronic tox, 6 and 9 months. And in the 6 and 9, one of the 6 and 9-month studies we had some observations early before 13 weeks in this study that caused us to go slower. And so what we're doing now is we're completing that study. So it's not finished. It's a 9-month study at the end of the day. You've got histopath and all the other things that help you understand what's going on. But what we think is the path forward is to go to places that don't have drugs, for example, for PNH like South Africa, and study it in a small number of patients and do the dose ranging. And if we can get to a once-daily dose that brings the LDH into the 1.5x the upper limit of normal or lower and is safe, we think we might have a best-in-class molecule.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#43

Okay. So when do you think you'd be able to move forward clinically with the program? And I guess, what would be the next defined catalyst?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#44

Yes. So what we have to do is we have to get regulators with the information that we have about the tox program, be comfortable that we can study it safely in patients. We have to get investigators to agree to that as well, and we have to get patients to want to enroll in the study. And we're in that process now. I can't tell you with certainty when or if we'll get there, but I think we're reasonably confident that we'll be able to start a study.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#45

This calendar year, perhaps?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#46

I hope so, but no guarantees on that.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#47

Yes. Okay. I think you were also running the nonclinical rodent tox study, is that right?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#48

So the chronic study is in 2 species. We didn't say which species, but rodents could be one of the two. Yes, yes.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#49

Okay. We're guessing. And is that on track?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#50

Yes. I mean, we only see this in 1 species, so far. It's unusual that you would complete a 13-week study. And then in your chronic, you would see something before 13 weeks that could be the law of small numbers. But that's part of what we're trying to sort through what's going on here. And we -- I don't think we're at a point yet where we can definitively say, we know exactly what's going on.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#51

Okay. Whatever it is, rodents or otherwise, I think you were guiding to being able to finish that by year-end?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#52

Yes.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#53

And that's still on-track?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#54

Yes.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#55

Okay. So you're also doing these SAD/MAD studies, I believe. And what are you hoping to take away from those? Do you want to find the dose?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#56

Yes. No, I think we've got enough data out of the SAD/MAD to now move into patients. What we saw, there's a slide in our deck that shows the AP hemolysis or AP suppression through the Wieslab assay. And like I said before, with a single dose of, either 80 or 110 milligrams, you see it knock down the AP pathway. So I think we know where to start. So then the question is in patients, where can we stop in terms of how high do we have to go. And you can't do that in healthy volunteers. It's better to do it in patients.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#57

Okay. So do you have a view about how many clinical programs BioCryst can do at any particular time, just given the size of the company and the responsibilities that you have as a commercial organization as well?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#58

Yes. I think -- the way we look at it is what's a smart allocation of capital, right? With the growing revenue we have with ORLADEYO, with the refinancing and the additional capital that we have access to with the deal we did with Pharmakon, I think we can do multiple studies, maybe multiple programs. I think the key, though, is to make kill decisions early enough, where you're not advancing something that you're wasting money on. And I hope we've shown that we have that discipline. And I know it's frustrating at times for -- it's certainly frustrating for us and patients. But if the product's not going to be differentiated in the marketplace, we shouldn't advance it.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#59

Right. Well, I've covered you long enough to know you have made those decisions, so.

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#60

Thank you.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#61

So I guess you talked about that Pharmakon deal. Can you give us a little bit of background on how that came about?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#62

Yes. For the last, I don't know, what is it, John, 3 years now? We've looked at alternative financing to things other than our shares, and we've done royalty deals. Three years ago, we did this Ethereum deal, or 2 years ago. And there's a lot of interest in and there's a lot of money to help companies like BioCryst continue to advance. We want to take ORLADEYO around the world, for example. And so getting it registered and getting it launched in other parts of the world is an investment that we think is a good one to make. And so we had a process that had some really good lenders in there, and we got to terms that we agreed with Pharmakon, and they're a really well-established good lender, good partner. And so we felt it was a way better deal than what we had, and it gave us some future flexibility that was good for the company. And honestly, I believe personally that it dramatically reduced our dependence to go back into the capital markets. And in this environment, that's so important. Between the growing ORLADEYO revenue and this refinance deal, I think we may never go back. I'll never say never, but we may never.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#63

Okay. Yes. My next question was going to be, where does your current cash position/balance sheet allow you to go?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#64

Yes. I'm not going to give you a year, because we could get to profitability, right? It all is a matter of what are we investing in the pipeline. If 10013 is successful in this PNH study, then we'll do a bigger study that'll be a bigger investment in that program, because we've derisked the program by showing we have a safe and effective once-daily dose. But yes, I think with what we have in hand, the cash lasts us a long time, a long time.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#65

Okay. So that's good to know. You've always talked about having an oral that's convenient, so always once per day dosing. But is there any work that you've done on certain types of diseases where the oral might work, but maybe dosing more than once a day might be needed? And is that -- does that kill the idea right there?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#66

No. I think if there's an injectable market where there's no sign of another oral, twice a day might be okay, but we'll always continue to work to make it better and get to a once a day. Our team -- that's a really hard thing to do, because when you make something more orally bioavailable, it's usually bigger, and it has a bigger charge. Or -- I'm sorry, smaller and less charge, and that makes it less potent and less specific. So it's a hard thing to do, but we're always striving to get to once a day.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#67

So are there -- so as you look at the complement cascade, there are so many different directions that you can go. Is there a disease category that you just think they're well served, we don't really need to try anything on our end here?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#68

Not really. I mean, especially with an oral drug, I think there are a lot of people in the space. That doesn't scare us away because most of them are injectable. Or if they're oral, they're more of a shotgun approach than a laser approach to the pathways. But we're not limited to complement alone. And I'll go back to something I said earlier. One of the attractive things about complement is, it's highly likely in a number of these diseases that you got to hit the alternative pathway and the classical lectin. And that means you've got to hit 2 different targets. And that's a lot easier to do with a small molecule than a biologic. You could -- you might be able to do it with a biologic, but it's challenging.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#69

Is there anything that's in the allergy space that could be complementary to HAE that you'd want to do?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#70

I think rare disease is still, like, paramount to us. There are other immunology rare diseases that we could go after. You and I talked briefly before we started around the eye. And we're certainly open to looking to work with other companies and delivering our drug for eye disease. That's not something we're going to be doing by ourselves, for sure. But we're exploring a lot of different options. And we're looking forward to sharing with investors later this year, early part of next year in an Investor Day in Birmingham, Alabama, just more of what we do and where we're doing it and why we believe we're really confident that we can bring another ORLADEYO forward.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#71

Do you think that for, like, specific organs, like the eye, that an oral option is ideal?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#72

No. No. I think -- one, I think we're learning in these eye diseases. You've got to get it concentrated in the site, a distributed way of delivering it and hoping it gets to the eye is a lot harder. And then it could mess up pricing and things like that as well. So I think having a distinctly different one that goes injected -- and so then the key is, can it stay there for a long time, because people don't want a weekly or monthly injection, right?

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#73

What about the idea of gene editing kind of encroaching into certain types of rare diseases now, including potentially HAE as we mentioned before? Just mechanistically, what could be some of those pitfalls?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#74

I think it's the risk. The FDA put out guidance about following patients for 15 years. I look at ORLADEYO as almost a functional cure. We've had patients and physicians tell us that. You're taking a capsule once a day, you forget you're sick, you don't have attacks. It's basically a functional cure. And that's what you want to do is control the disease without a heavy burden of therapy. And I think oral drugs do that. I think gene therapy could be great for people that have no alternative. Their disease is not controlled by any of the other therapies. I think that gives people a lot of hope. And then over time, we'll see what the safety brings. But I think we're quite a ways away from that.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#75

Okay. Now when you talk to investors, you've been doing this now a long time and you've seen several cycles. Just given where we are today, what do you think is the biggest disconnect between what the company is doing versus how the Street might be appreciating or not appreciating it?

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#76

Yes. I think convincing investors that we're going to hit $320 million this year. And I think the first quarter, we're off to a good start. I think the second quarter will be more evidence that we do that. I think convincing investors that we can get to the $1 billion. And I think I -- definitely, we -- John and I heard some investors thought that we kept losing patients, 40% of patients over time. When they get to a year, we lose about 1% to 2%, so there's not a bunch of people falling out that we have to replace after we get them to a year. I think then more and more people are going to be convinced that we can get to $1 billion. And then I think proving that we weren't lucky with ORLADEYO and that we can do this again and that will be smart and careful about how we allocate capital to get there, I think, is the other piece. And if we can do that, I think there's a ton of value here.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#77

Well, it certainly looks like ORLADEYO, even if you take the very conservative estimate of half of what you think it could do, your valuation does seem attractive here, for sure. So with that, we're going to stop the conversation. If you guys have any questions, feel free to reach out. But thanks, everybody, for joining us for this last session today. And Jon, as always, it's always great to catch up with you here at the Vegas conference.

Jon Stonehouse

executive
#78

Yes, thank you.

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