BioMarin Pharmaceutical Inc. (BMRN) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 25, 2022
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorWelcome to the BioMarin Conference Call to discuss European Approval of ROCTAVIAN. Hosting the conference call today from BioMarin is Traci McCarty, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Traci.
Traci McCarty
executiveThank you very much operator, and thank you all for joining U.S. today to talk about ROCTAVIAN approval in Europe. On the call from BioMarin's management team are J.J. Bienaime, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Jeff Ajer, Chief Commercial Officer; Hank Fuchs, President of Worldwide R&D; and Brian Mueller, our Chief Financial Officer. To remind you, this non-confidential presentation contains forward-looking statements about ROCTAVIAN and the business prospects of BioMarin Pharmaceutical Inc., including expectations regarding BioMarin's financial performance and the clinical development and potential regulatory approval of ROCTAVIAN and other commercial products and products and development. Results may differ materially depending on the timing and nature of decisions by regulatory authorities, the progress of BioMarin's development programs, BioMarin's ability to successfully commercialize ROCTAVIAN and other product developments in the pharmaceutical industry, actions by competitors and those factors detailed in the press release we issued today, as well as BioMarin's filings with the SEC Commission such as 10-Q, 10-K and 8-K reports. Now I'd like to turn the call over to our Chairman and CEO, J.J. Bienaime.
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveThank you, Traci, and good afternoon or evening and thank you all for joining U.S. to discuss today's European approval of ROCTAVIAN. ROCTAVIAN is the first approved gene therapy product for the treatment of adults with severe hemophilia A. I want to thank all the people who participated in our clinical programs, our investigators and advocates and our BioMarin colleagues who worked to bring this groundbreaking new treatment to people with hemophilia A. Today's news marks a significant milestone for the scientific community, many of whom have contributed over the last 3 decades to this momentous approval. For BioMarin, the perseverance demonstrated by our R&D organization over the last 7 years is emblematic of how we get things done on behalf of the patients we serve. And while BioMarin is known as a pioneering innovator, we now have 8 novel commercial products, which -- on the market, and to the achievements is a high watermark for our organization and for scientific innovation across our industry. For our shareholders, we share today's accomplishment and we thank you for your support throughout our journey to bring the next generation of innovative therapies to the hemophilia A community. This approval from the European Commission unlocks ROCTAVIAN access to thousands of people with severe hemophilia A in 24 European countries within BioMarin's commercial footprint and is a first step to facilitating access to named patient sales markets in the Middle East. We were also very pleased to have maintained orphan drug designation in the EU providing 10 years of market exclusivity, underscoring the significant benefit our ROCTAVIAN has over existing therapies for patients with severe hemophilia A as assessed by the European community. We extend our appreciation to the EMA for their acknowledgment of the groundbreaking nature of ROCTAVIAN gene therapy for the benefit of the hemophilia community. Thank you for your commitment to BioMarin as we have persevered through our global clinical development programs and regulatory procedures as well as invested in our world-class gene therapy manufacturing facilities in preparation for this day. We are pleased to have ample supply of our ROCTAVIAN ready for labeling and distribution to our key treatment centers in Germany, as we anticipated, today's news when we received this positive CHMP opinion in late June. We are ready to launch. I will now turn the call over to Jeff who joins U.S. from Japan where we are celebrating the launch of VOXZOGO to describe now our ROCTAVIAN launch plans and our product readiness and the reimbursement outlook and market opportunity for VOXZOGO in Europe and the Middle East. Jeff?
Jeffrey Ajer
executiveThank you, J.J., and good evening everyone. Suffice it to say, we have been preparing for this day for a few years and the commercial team is ready to launch ROCTAVIAN in Europe. Before I begin, I would also like to extend our gratitude to the families, colleagues, investigators and European health authorities who have all contributed to this first approval of any gene therapy for treatment of severe hemophilia A, a significant achievement on behalf of the hemophilia community. Turning briefly to some label highlights. ROCTAVIAN is indicated for the treatment of severe hemophilia A in adult patients without a history of Factor VIII inhibitors and without detectable antibodies to adeno virus -- adeno-associated virus serotype 5 or AAV5. ROCTAVIAN is contraindicated in patients with active infections either acute or uncontrolled chronic or patients with known significant hepatic fibrosis or cirrhosis. The recommended dose of ROCTAVIAN is 6 times 10 to the 13 vector genomes per kilogram bodyweight administered as a single intravenous infusion. Prior to the administration of ROCTAVIAN, recipients will provide baseline measurements of liver health. In the first year after ROCTAVIAN administration, liver function and Factor VIII monitoring will be conducted to determine the need to initiate a course of corticosteroids on an on-demand basis should ALP levels rise above the upper limit of normal or 1.5 times baseline and consistent with the protocol outlined in our Phase 3 program. Other safety items included in the label reflect our clinical trial experience and as expected, includes information related to managing liver health, guidelines regarding the use of corticosteroids, infusion-related reactions, the risk of thrombotic events and the risk of malignancy as a result of vector integration. Additional safety information is described in the Product Information, which will be posted to the EMA website in the coming days. Additionally, as part of our commitment to substantiate the long-term efficacy and safety of this gene therapy, patients are expected to be enrolled in the registry designed to follow patients for 15 years as agreed with EMA and in line with EMA guidelines. Now on to European launch plans. Today's approval unlocks access to ROCTAVIAN to thousands of people in the 24 countries within BioMarin's European footprint. We anticipate additional access to ROCTAVIAN for patients outside of the EU through named patient sales based on the EMA approval in countries in the Middle East, Africa and Latin America, and expect additional market registrations to be facilitated by the EMA license. Turning to pricing and reimbursement anticipated in Europe. As we have said previously, we anticipate the price of ROCTAVIAN to reflect the improved clinical outcomes demonstrated across our studies as compared to standard of care. Payers already understand what it costs to provide chronic care to people with severe hemophilia A, so the value proposition demonstrated by ROCTAVIAN offers the potential for significant cost savings to healthcare systems. Only 6 of 134 participants in our Phase 3 study resumed treatment on standard of care prophylaxis and so we are very enthusiastic about the prospect of a one-time treatment option with such higher responder rates. Acknowledging that a one-time durable treatment like ROCTAVIAN will come with a substantial cost upfront, we have been working with payers for years in preparation for this day. We have taken the approach that different payer systems have different needs, so we plan to customize outcomes-based agreements market by market. We expect these outcomes-based agreements or OBAs will cover the risk of a non-response over a period of many years and are targeting 5 to 8-year agreements in Europe. As we have said previously, we have been in discussions with health authorities and health insurance organizations in our initial market, Germany. Our discussions have resulted in a framework for outcomes-based payment models. We are in the process of finalizing those agreements, which we expect will facilitate commercial treatment with first patients of ROCTAVIAN in the fourth quarter. In France, we submitted for early access for ROCTAVIAN and expect that review to begin imminently. Turning to the launch cascade in Europe. We plan to launch ROCTAVIAN immediately in Germany, where we will have first-year free pricing and Germany is the largest European market for severe hemophilia A. We anticipate the one-time price in Europe to be around [ EUR 1.5 million ] for a one-time treatment with ROCTAVIAN net of all discounts and reserves. We expect to share the European list price with you in October and we anticipate that this price will be in line with, but lower than the comparable U.S. net price. Our next market will be France, which is also significant in size and has an early access program, which we plan to leverage while we go in parallel through the full price and reimbursement process, which can take about a year in France. Then we expect to pursue pricing and reimbursement in Italy and Spain, the latter also having a named patient sales channel that may be available to U.S. while we pursue full pricing and reimbursement in Spain. Beyond these initial markets across the EU4, we anticipate other named patient sales opportunities in Europe, the Middle East, the [ key off ] of today's approval. We do anticipate some pent-up demand will drive initial sales in the fourth quarter of this year and expect an increasing uptake of volume beginning in the first quarter of next year. In summary, the commercial team has been preparing for this day for years. We are so pleased to have the breadth of data on which today's approval was based and the transformational impact of ROCTAVIAN demonstrating a reduction in annualized bleeding rates and factor use unmatched by any available therapy today is an important breakthrough for patients. We've been very pleased with the growing body of market research, eliminating both awareness and interest in treatment with ROCTAVIAN. Recent market research indicates that -- with healthcare professionals indicates that ROCTAVIAN could capture approximately 35% of eligible patients and in line with our expectations. We were pleased to see that approximately 80% of healthcare professionals surveyed expect to treat at least 1 patient with ROCTAVIAN within 12 months of approval. Based on the strength of ROCTAVIAN data and the encouraging market feedback and interest in treating, the commercial organization is excited to get started on European launch today. On our next quarterly call, we expect to share metrics that will help you follow the cadence of ROCTAVIAN uptake in Europe. So thank you for your attention and we will now open the call to your questions. Operator?
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Chris Raymond from Piper Sandler.
Christopher Raymond
analystHey, thanks, and congrats guys again for all the perseverance and the success here. Really great to see. Just a couple of questions if I could. Jeff, just on the net price with discounts and reserves, can you maybe verify what that assumed sort of non-responder rate is? I think you mentioned 6 of 134 patients in your trials. But is that what's baked into that? Is that the ratio that we should be thinking about? And maybe can you tell U.S. what the gross price is? What's the list on that? And I got a follow-up.
Jeffrey Ajer
executiveThanks, Chris. I might defer to Brian Mueller on the question of the discounts and reserves piece.
Brian Mueller
executiveYes. Thanks, Jeff. Thanks, Chris, for the question. This is Brian. You're not far off. As you can imagine, we're planning to use the totality of our clinical data both the 2 years, soon to be 3 years Phase 3 data of 134 patients, and now 6 years of data from the Phase 1/2 study. And while we've reported the key clinical outcomes from that data, that is the same data we'll be looking at as we form these estimates. But when you think about responder rates, that 6 out of 134 is a good place to anchor to.
Christopher Raymond
analystAnd the gross price?
Jeffrey Ajer
executiveOn the subject of gross price, we don't have a gross price listed yet, Chris. We will be submitting that first in Germany. So it needs to be submitted on a twice-a-month cadence and then it takes about 0.5 month for that price to be listed. So we'll be finalizing that, and that will be listing in the next month or so but we normally guide to expectations of net revenue per patient, so that you don't get dripped up on a gross to net -- having to come up with the gross to net assumptions. So I would guide to home in on that estimated EUR 1.5 million per patient net.
Christopher Raymond
analystGreat. Thanks. And then maybe just a quick follow-up. Some of our checks uncovered recently a number of centers had active patient registries. And I know you probably don't want to give a number of your patients, but maybe can you just put some brackets around especially in Germany and France maybe the sort of range of -- or ratio of target centers that actually have active registries that are in place for ROCTAVIAN?
Jeffrey Ajer
executiveWhen you say registries, I think you mean some kind of waiting list of patients that are interested at a particular center. Did I get that right?
Christopher Raymond
analystYes. That's right. Yes. That's right. Yes.
Jeffrey Ajer
executiveWell, we have seen signals of that since the CHMP positive opinion at the end of June. I don't have a full accounting center by center, country by country. But what I would say is it's a very encouraging signal of demand that these, with early adopters, are starting to form what are probably early adopter centers. So those are important great signal of demand, we'll be targeting those first. I will note that a signal of demand like that is really important. It is subject to first having a reimbursement approval for those patients to get treated under and second, the mechanics of doing the workup of the patient like I described, checking for liver health, making sure that they are AAV5 seronegative, making sure the center has gone through an on-boarding process and they're ready to treat patients. So there are some important mechanics early on, especially that will gate those patient registries as you're calling them.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Salveen Richter from Goldman Sachs.
Salveen Richter
analystMaybe 2 questions for me. One is on, could you just remind U.S. on the cadence of the launch across Europe and when these countries -- these various countries -- on board and then help U.S. understand who the early adopters are in each of these countries?
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveJeff?
Jeffrey Ajer
executiveAll right. The cadence of launch, I've described on a number of occasions, and in this script. The first market is going to be Germany where we have the ability to -- Germany is both the largest market in Europe for severe hemophilia A and it's the one place in Europe where we have a free pricing period. So we'll be targeting Germany first. And then the second most important market in Europe is France and as I've described, there is an early access program that we've already submitted to in France and for which the review will begin imminently with this approval, France will be second. The balance of the so-called EU4, those are the 4 most important markets in Europe are Italy and Spain. So we'll be targeting Italy and Spain to follow Germany and France. Beyond that, we'll be taking advantage of early access and named patient sales opportunities in markets where they present themselves. And to that end, you can think about some of the small numbers of patients we've reported being treated with VOXZOGO in some of those markets. We'll be pursuing similar opportunities. And also in key markets in the Middle East and Africa, these would be markets such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE and even Argentina in Latin America, where we've had success with early access sales following a major market approval like we've just received today. So that would be the initial cadence. Like we have with other launches, we will likely be reporting new active markets each quarter so that you can follow along with that cadence of launch.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Geoff Meacham from Bank of America.
Unknown Analyst
analystThis is [ Charlie ] on for Geoff. Our congrats on the approval. Maybe I've kind of 2 questions. The first question is can you just -- I think you mentioned about the -- you're going through the [ assets peer ] with France, and that may take about a year or so. I guess following the launch sequence against when can we -- how should we think about the actual count -- revenue kind of recognition standpoint? And then I guess the second question is in terms of the FDA, I think kind of where people are focusing right now in terms of the resubmission study. I'm just wondering if there are any more granularity that you could provide beyond the end of the September submission timeframe in terms of account discussion behind the doors. Thank you.
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveJeff, why don't you answer the first question? And Hank, maybe you can answer the second one.
Jeffrey Ajer
executiveOkay. So I think your -- the question was how to think about recognition of revenue. I'll ask Brian to keep me honest if I miss anything here, but in general, we expect the revenue to be recognized at the time of treatment. So we're selling actual vials of product and like with our other products, when we transfer those vials to the end user that's when we will be recognizing the revenue and that will be essentially a revenue upfront and that revenue upfront that we're recording will be net of actual and anticipated discounts and reserves under an outcomes-based agreement.
Brian Mueller
executiveYes. Thanks, Jeff. This is Brian. Maybe just to elaborate a little bit because I heard in the question of an aspect about the pricing in negotiation period in process in France, and then the early access program. So the question may have been about clawbacks or rebates once final price is determined. That's done at the country-by-country level. In certain countries, there is repricing where while the final price might be different or lower, there would not be a rebate. But in countries where there might be a clawback of revenue or reimbursements during the negotiation phase, we actually have experience with this in our other products and we're usually able to estimate what that amount may be and we would reserve that as part of our gross to net, and you wouldn't see it in that revenue. Again, we've got experience with other products doing that. What we would not expect to be in the situation with perhaps we've seen elsewhere where you're required to defer revenue during that period, waiting for that final [ true-up ]. So we wouldn't be in that scenario.
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveHank, do you want to comment on the U.S. filing?
Henry Fuchs
executiveYes. Yes, if there's any additional granularity and sort of not really I mean, the main news since the last time we've spoken to you about U.S. plans is the EC's Commission [ release ] -- the European Commission's authorization of the marketing application for Europe. So while that may not directly read through on the FDA, it's certainly better than the alternative. And as regards the other activities of the FDA, we had this interaction with them, fairly detailed and we're on track for delivering everything they've asked for and we believe that the information that we have will address the questions that they've raised.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Gena Wang from Barclays.
Xiaozhou Fan
analystThank you for taking our question. This is Sheldon on for Gena. Congratulations on the approval. My first question is about your outcome-based payment. So what are some of the criteria that determine the payback? So how do you define the failure of any specific quantitative metrics we can follow, like how many events -- bleeding events reported? Or is it based on patient or based on physician determined? And how much do you need to pay back? Will it be a binary like 100% once the event happens or a percentage based on the number of events that happened to a patient?
Jeffrey Ajer
executiveI feel that question...
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveI think we have covered some of that but Jeff, do you want to reiterate?
Jeffrey Ajer
executiveYes. And we have covered that on multiple occasions, but in terms of the criteria for the outcomes-based agreement, essentially we're guaranteeing that patients will respond initially and then be not bleeding and free from prophylaxis therapy for the period of time of the agreement. And so in very simple terms, and I don't think you need to be more complicated than this. Think about it as first initial response and then continued durability as measured by not having to return to prophylaxis during the guarantee period. And as we've discussed previously, how that would work in practice in most anticipated agreements would be something like if you had a 5-year agreement period and you had a patient that return to prophylaxis after 4 of those 5 years, then we would -- then the payer would have captured 80% of the value 4 of 5 years, 80% of the value of the term of the agreement and we would rebate back 20% in that simple example.
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveAnd again, I think, Brian explained, however, based on the clinical data we have so far, we can pretty clearly establish the percentage of the patients that are anticipated to go back to prophylactic therapy at this time. And then again, this will be part of a reserve that will be taken upfront from the gross price of ROCTAVIAN as we explained. Again, the anticipated initial price in Germany will be around EUR 1.5 million net of all discount and net of all outcome-based agreements reserves. So -- but if the patient sales [indiscernible] example, the patient returns to prophylactic therapy at year 4 in a 5-year agreement, we will pay 100% of the cost of the therapy in the fifth year from year 4 to 5 for that patient. So I think maybe you're referring to another company that has a recent approval of ex-vivo gene therapy where I think they said it would cover 80% of the costs we are covering 100%.
Xiaozhou Fan
analystOkay. And also you mentioned, there [ will be the ] agreement in different new countries, countries would be between like 5 year to 8 years. So this current payback will be also based on that period, is that correct?
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveYes, I mean, Jeff or Brian, do you want to answer that?
Jeffrey Ajer
executiveYes. We're targeting -- go ahead.
Brian Mueller
executiveYes. As you can see, they're targeting 5, 8, these agreements are still being negotiated and as we enter the country-by-country launches but you could model or envision a proportionate value arrangement. So whether it's 5 or 8 that the value of the financial protection that our outcomes-based agreement would provide would be proportional to the timeframe of durability in the outcomes-based agreement.
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveBut if I may add also all this is going to be based on the fact that we have now 6 years. As you can see data on bleeding control available with our Phase 2 trial, we're going to have 7 years in May, June of next year. So I think we're using that data to guide the reserve we're going to be taking upfront from the upfront cost.
Xiaozhou Fan
analystOkay. Thank you. And also may I follow up with 1 more question about the price? So based on your interaction with the German payers about your EUR 1.5 million net price, have they -- is this price they have agreed upon or have they commented or have any feedback on your price?
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveJeff?
Jeffrey Ajer
executiveGuys, as I've noted, I said we are working to finalize those agreements. They haven't been finalized yet. But that's our target for where we think we're going to wind up.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Robyn Karnauskas from Truist Securities.
Robyn Karnauskas
analystI do want to say congratulations to not just the senior members, but I mean a lot of people worked on this and I've told you all for a while and I think manufacturing all the way up. Congrats, it's a big deal for hemophilia patients. I have 2 questions. So I guess J.J., you've talked a lot about the value proposition being more than EUR 1.5 million. I know that's the net price. And can you help U.S. understand how you think -- how payers think when you chose the EUR 1.5 million or talking about the EUR 1.5 million net, and you're obviously saving a lot more of the system than that, talk to me about how your thought process and the negotiations or your thought process about that price point. And the second question is with conditional -- it's the wrong CMA. So you're having an approval, which requires you to submit more information in other indications that are a lot more broad, not orphan drug. Sometimes European nations push back on reimbursing those. So explain to U.S. with conditional approvals like that, how confident you are that upfront reimbursement will occur in Europe?
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveActually, these 2 questions -- thanks, Robyn. These 2 questions are linked, because the fact that we have an outcome-based agreement, where we guarantee success here, kind of reduce the risk of reimbursement for conditional approval, although Jeff can -- has looked at that in detail and he's going to provide his comments. So the EUR 1.5 million again anticipated is net -- not only of the usual discount, but net of our outcome-based agreements, anticipated reserve and this is the European price we're talking about here, not the U.S. price. So we have talked about in the past and we are firm on this about a higher U.S. price but not going to be double the European price, but it's the fact that we have to take into account in Europe, the fact that the cost of hemophilia therapy with existing product is lower than in the U.S. and consequently, we need to adjust for the -- so the cost offset in Europe, that's going to be lower than in the US. So this is why we end up with around EUR 1.5 million net of reserves and -- of discounts and reserves for the outcome-based agreement. Jeff, you want to talk about the conditional approval and reimbursement where -- why we think it's not going to be an issue?
Jeffrey Ajer
executiveYes. Thank you, J.J., and thanks Robyn for the question. So we don't think that the conditional marketing authorization is going to be an issue here. What -- the nature of the approval is less important than the data that we have to support the product and also the terms of the outcomes-based agreement as J.J. noted. Relative to your question of analogs, I would say when you look at those analogs, haven't done well in Europe following conditional marketing authorization. It's likely that their performance is related to the data and the outcomes that they have behind their product and not the nature of the approval itself. And back just briefly to the notion of value proposition. The value proposition of ROCTAVIAN goes well beyond the cost offsets relative to not having to pay for prophylaxis therapy for a period of likely many years, however, the European system ties reimbursement prices back to -- and anchors to use the cost of standard of care therapy. And I will note that the standard of care therapy prophylaxis in Europe is lower than it is in the United States.
Robyn Karnauskas
analystAwesome. One follow-up question, financial question. When we think about margin, like now that you have this net price, how do we think about spends you advocate toward getting more patients in the office in Europe and getting them seen and support for adopters learning a new therapy? How do we think about margins in near term in the beginning of launch? And that's my final question. Thank you.
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveBrian, do you want to cover that?
Brian Mueller
executiveYes. Thanks. Thanks, Robyn. So we were excited to actually be launching ROCTAVIAN in Europe. As Jeff noted, we've been planning and anticipating this for a couple of years now, and that means building the large capabilities. Important to note, first, operationally, ROCTAVIAN will plug into the same global infrastructure that supports our roughly $2 billion of annual revenues today. So this includes supply chain, core commercial capabilities such as market access, medical support as you noted, and then global corporate commercial support, as well as G&A. But with that being said, we are entering a large and competitive hemophilia A market. We plan to make and need to make incremental investments in ROCTAVIAN in order to maximize its launch success. And so while we will have those additional investments and sales and marketing in SG&A overall will increase on an absolute dollar basis. Because of the leverage that we're getting from the existing business, we anticipate that this fits into the margin improvement story that we've been discussing for the last year or 2. So you'll see investments increase, but we would still expect that overall sales and marketing over time, especially as ROCTAVIAN revenues grow will decrease therefore increasing operating margin.
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveAnd Robyn, maybe -- Brian, maybe I think, maybe I'm wrong, but I think maybe, Robyn was interested in gross margin also. Is that correct? Is that what you were after Robyn or just operating margin?
Robyn Karnauskas
analystI think both. I mean that's great color. I think we both are asking the question whether or not you'd need more expenses on the bottom line, but also I think gross margin too given the net price of EUR 1.5 million where we -- none of U.S. know what the real price of the therapy yet. So it's harder, or the cost of the therapy as well. So any color you can give -- sounds like you're going to -- let me just go back, sounds like you'll fit into your guidance, so none of U.S. have to worry about expenses. But maybe give color on the cost as well.
Brian Mueller
executiveYes. Thanks. So first on that last piece, yes, because we were anticipating this launch in Europe, we have included the necessary or planned SG&A investments within guidance. On gross margin, ROCTAVIAN is being a gene therapy made in our 35, [ Leverone ] plant in Novato is a dedicated state-of-art gene therapy plant. Inherently, the cost to manufacture ROCTAVIAN is significant, each patient cost will be significant. However, as you noted, because of the upfront revenue recognition, because of the planned single price for a single dose of ROCTAVIAN and the high price, we do anticipate that ROCTAVIAN gross margins will be higher than our base business, which hover around the high 70%, so about a 20%, 22% cost of goods sold. ROCTAVIAN, we anticipate will be in the lower teens. And so initially as...
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveI mean lower teens in terms of cost of goods, not gross margins.
Brian Mueller
executiveYes, cost of goods. So over time, ROCTAVIAN become a substantial contributor to our total revenues, likewise for VOXZOGO, which has higher gross margins than our base business. This again fits into the overall margin improvement strategy for the company.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Matthew Harrison from Morgan Stanley.
Matthew Harrison
analystI guess 2 from me. So one, can you just give U.S. some sense of especially for Germany and France, what you see is the relative size of those local market? And then given, it sounds like the survey work that you've done, who do you think are going to be the initial types of patients or what is the initial patient going to look like in terms of launch?
Jeffrey Ajer
executiveSo Germany and France are the largest markets in Europe based on a number of measures, but one of them being population size. So I would say, relative to our overall guidance of the total number of severe hemophilia A adults that are within the set of EMA markets and the EMA markets are the EU 28-plus Liechtenstein, Norway and Iceland. Think about Germany and France as being proportional to the total. So we reported about 8,000 severe adult hemophilia A patients. Think about Germany and France being proportional on a population basis and similarly for the estimated, I think 3,200 patients that we said would be eligible based on the initial label which we also described, think about proportionality there. By the way, a comment on that initial label. As we reported, we have reported, we have lifecycle management plans and studies that are underway that would help U.S. expand beyond that initial indication over time. In terms of the survey work...
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveI mean so France should be around 75% of the German market based on the relative population is about 84 million German people and 65 million French people. So it's going to be proportional.
Jeffrey Ajer
executiveIn terms of the survey work and initial adaptors, I'm sure you can appreciate, for competitive reasons, we're not going to give you a profile of our initial target patient population. But importantly, we think that all patients including patients on prophylaxis with Factor VIII or Hemlibra or even patients that are not on prophylaxis are and can be eligible for treatment with ROCTAVIAN. We have given you guidance in the past that our survey indicates that Factor VIII patients in particular that are not performing well Factor VIII prophylaxis been particularly interested in ROCTAVIAN and also Hemlibra patients that may be doing well on Hemlibra but are demanding a higher performance of their treatment could be initial targets as well.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Tim Lugo from William Blair.
Tim Lugo
analystI am on the line. And yes, I was on mute. I want to pass along congratulations to the whole company as well as the patients. I know it's a major day for everyone. Can you maybe discuss the ODE and how that -- how you feel that [ enabled ] exclusivity, I assume other Factor VIII gene therapy programs are also watching today as a major event? And can you just talk about how -- if you expect to be the only gene therapy available, I mean [ do you have ] the duration of that ODE?
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveMaybe I'll start, then Hank can provide his perspective. I think the value in addition to the market exclusivity of this orphan drugs extension here, it just illustrates the fact that the European community after reviewing our medical file believes that ROCTAVIAN is a major improvement compared to existing therapies, including recent launches. So Hank, you want to talk about exclusivity and...
Henry Fuchs
executiveYes, and I think the specific rules on exclusivity pertaining to similarity of products have been generally but not sufficiently specifically outlined to be able to predict what impact this might have on any of the followers. But I'd also say that it'll be a lot of years before this even comes to the 4 because those followers are still far behind BioMarin. So I think that as J.J. said, the major element of the orphan designation from a development perspective is simply the recognition that it has the offer, the potential to offer potentially superior therapeutic outcome for patients with unmet medical needs for over and above available therapies.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Paul Matteis from Stifel Financial Corp.
James Condulis
analystThis is James on for Paul. Just wanted to confirm quickly. There is no black box warning or anything for oncogenesis risk, correct? It's -- just be helpful to get some color on kind of how that's characterized. And then secondly, just based on kind of steroid directions on the label, I guess how are you thinking about what percent of patients will ultimately need steroids and I guess for how long on average?
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveHank?
Henry Fuchs
executiveYes. The label talks about -- well, first of all, the label will be available in several days. From what we understand about what will be finalized in the label, the label does mention vector integration as a potential consideration but acknowledges that as of the writing of the label. Now AAV therapy has been associated with cancer causation and then on the issue of corticosteroids, we expect probably 80% of patients will take corticosteroids, and there is a lighter tapering regimen on the back end. So we expect that I think by and large, most patients will be done within 6 months of initiation of steroid therapy. And they won't be on very high doses and they won't be on very high -- on even moderate doses for very long. So the -- we had a very good dialog with the EMA about what we learned in the clinical trial and they concluded as we did that more is not necessarily better.
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveAnd if I may add, Hank, we were explaining that actually there is no such thing as a black box in the European label. We've explained that. It's the US.
Henry Fuchs
executiveAnd we didn't get one either.
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveWe didn't get one but generally, they don't really have black boxes in Europe.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Divya Rao from Cowen and Company.
Divya Rao
analystThis is Divya on for Phil. I would like to add my congratulations on the approval. I have 2 questions. One -- sorry.
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveDivya, are you there?
Divya Rao
analystYes. Can you guys hear me?
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveYes.
Divya Rao
analystOkay. My first question is, could you provide any color on like specific metrics we can expect on the launch in the next few earnings calls? I know that earlier you mentioned that you plan to provide number of active markets. But are there any other metrics that we can expect on the call? And then the second question is, with achondroplasia you previously noted that the model of care in France and Germany are slightly more concentrated whereas compared to the model of care in the US. Do you see some more dynamic with ROCTAVIAN's target population as well?
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveI'll start with your first question and let Jeff answer the second one. Yes, we will be providing the metrics that we anticipate to communicate to you on a regular basis when we have our Q3 conference call in October. Since at that time, the product will just have been started to be shipping in Europe. Just 2, 3 weeks earlier, so we will let you know what we anticipate to communicate on a going forward basis in terms of key launch metrics. Jeff. second question?
Jeffrey Ajer
executiveYes, on the question of concentration of care model in Europe, that's exactly the case and there is a direct analogy between achondroplasia and hemophilia particularly in the initial markets of France and Germany. So in France and Germany, there are both hemophilia treatment centers that are readily identified where patients are treated and also comprehensive care centers, which you could think about as being particularly well equipped, well-resourced and sophisticated hemophilia treatment centers. Importantly, hemophilia community in Europe has published a couple of journal articles in the Journal Hemophilia, we can follow up with specific references in both 2020 and 2021, describing an -- the intention of treating with -- treating hemophilia patients with gene therapies through so-called hub-and-spoke model. So the intention is that the hubs would largely be the hemophilia treatment centers around the country and they would be referring patients into a small -- a relatively smaller number of their peers that are likely to be comprehensive care centers for actual treatment with ROCTAVIAN and other gene therapies potentially. And then those patients would be referred back to their spoke hemophilia treatment centers for monitoring and follow-up. So that's the model that we are expecting and working to and in conjunction with the hemophilia community, that's their model, not ours. We're just following along with that. Yes.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from Luca Issi from RBC Capital Markets.
Luca Issi
analystAgain, congrats on the great approval here in the EU. Maybe a quick one on, if I may, U.S. pricing, what's the latest thinking there? I think in the past, you have implied that the EU is going to be priced, I think, at a 30% discount versus the US. Is that still the case? Is it fair for U.S. to assume the net price in the U.S. will be $2.1 million to $2.2 million? And then maybe on the steroid study, can you remind U.S. when the steroid study will read out? And maybe related to it, how should we think about the potential risk that the FDA will want to wait for that data before you can file the BLA?
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveJeff, why don't you answer your first question? And Hank, you take on the second one on the BLA.
Jeffrey Ajer
executiveYes, happy to. So I think what we've guided to on European versus U.S. pricing expectation is that Europe would be lower than but relatively or somewhat lower than the U.S. price net but in line with, and I think if you look at what we're guiding to today to target net price per patient in Europe of about EUR 1.5 million, we're starting out with the initial markets and you think about how that compares to J.J.'s previous guidance on U.S. pricing, which has been probably not lower than $2 million, probably not higher than $3 million and you account for the standard U.S. gross to net discount up to and including an expectation that most if not all patients in the U.S. would be eligible for 340B discounting, which would be part of our gross to net calculation, you can see, without being overly specific that generally, that EUR 1.5 million per patient would tie up to kind of the guidance of somewhat lower but relatively in line with our expectations also for the US. And we haven't set a price for the U.S. market and we won't until we get an approval and we'll advise at that time.
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveHank, on the steroid filing.
Henry Fuchs
executiveYes. And we've had dialog with the agency about the requirements for filing and they're not waiting for the 303 study, that's fully enrolled and for which the first data readout will occur at the beginning of the year and I think today's news is that a health authority -- a major health authority in the world has decided that the availability of the therapy, given the unmet need and available alternative therapies warrants expediting asset availability of ROCTAVIAN to address the public health need represented by severe hemophilia. So I think that again, the read-through is not direct from EU to U.S. But I think it puts a positive light on the potential for and also for the U.S. health authorities to take a similar decision.
Operator
operatorWe are out of time. Thank you for joining us. I'll turn the call back over to J.J. Bienaime for closing remarks.
Jean-Jacques Bienaimé
executiveYes. Thank you all for joining U.S. today. I want to obviously mark these significant moments for people with severe hemophilia A for the field of gene therapy in general and the good work of the team here at BioMarin. So as pioneers in the field of transformative medicines, we are so pleased by this tremendous achievement. Thank you all for your support and we look forward to talking or seeing you soon. Goodbye.
Operator
operatorThis now concludes today's conference call. Thank you for attending.
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