BlackRock, Inc. (BLK) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 9, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Chris Perkins
analystNow we're going to turn it over to our panel discussion entitled Best Practices in Supporting Opportunities for Veterans. We have an absolutely incredible panel with leaders from across industry and government. I'm very happy to turn the program over to our moderator, my colleague, Ed Skyler. Ed is Citi's Head of Global Public Affairs, and he's the co-leader of Citi Salutes, along with John Tien. Ed, over to you.
Edward Skyler
analystThank you, Chris, and thank you for your service, and thank you for your contributions to VOWS and Citi Salutes. You've climbed at the ranks of Citi as an organization, but your contribution to the veteran community, both internally and across Wall Street, continue to grow in significance. So we thank you for that. We do have a great group of guests today, and I want to welcome everybody to virtual VOWS. We were excited to see you have the opportunity to host VOWS before everything went virtual, but we're making -- as we're all doing in life, we're making the most of it. And it's great to see so many people logged in and watching. First, we've got Suni Harford. Suni is a Citi alum. She's now the President of UBS Asset Management. She's one of my predecessors as a co-Chair of Citi Salutes, matter of fact, actually was a founder of it as well as a co-founder of ALS. We have Commissioner James Hendon. James is a Commissioner of the New York City Department of Veteran Services, they're such a large veterans community in New York City, that there's a whole city agency devoted to their interest. So thank you for joining us, Commissioner. Thank you for your service. Nick Lane, an important friend of Citi as well, who's the President of Equitable. We have Bruce Mosler, who's the Chairman of Global Brokerage at Cushman & Wakefield; Christiana Riley, CEO of Deutsche Bank Americas; and Gary Shedlin, the CFO of BlackRock, who also joined us early in the summer for a great conversation that we had. So we're going to dive right into it. Let's start with Suni. So Suni, you were one of the original co-founders of VOWS. Why -- tell us a little bit about why this organization started and give us a little bit of a report card, looking back in the last 10 years on how well we've done.
Suni Harford
attendeeWell, you have to start the answer to that question, Ed, noting that when we all sat down and talked about founding VOWS, we envisioned a 3-year need. And so 10 years later, it's fun to reflect back on where we were. There was a large increase on the veterans coming out of the service, President Obama, true to his campaign, promised to start bringing the troops home. So there was hundreds of thousands of veterans that were coming out of deployment and looking to get into the civilian workforce. So they needed jobs. They needed services to transition. And financial services, as we found out and went around and asked around, weren't doing anything. In fact, no one saw it coming, I don't think, most of corporate America was missing the point and had been very insolent in their approach, if they had any at all. So the 3 years has become 10 years, over 100 companies actively engaged in VOWS. Actually, the number is much higher than that. People come and go in terms of their ability to interact with us over it. The partnership we have with Bob Woodruff, thankfully, came in early days, I think maybe 3 years after we've been trying to manage our own events. Chris will remember this, it was not an easy thing. It has resulted in thousands of jobs, millions and millions of dollars to veterans and service organizations that need that help, including our caregivers, which is one of the things that Bob Woodruff was so wonderful about. So all of those things, I think, give us great marks. We honestly thought the need would be fulfilled. So silly us, we didn't appreciate how long term this need would be. But it is real and it continues to evolve. I think most proud, when we look back, and I do say we, all of us, on what we've accomplished is that VOWS became a model for other industries in terms of how to build a coalition, how you take what was the most competitive industry in the world and making noncompetitive commitment to help our servicemen and women as they return home. With something that was great, and we're very happy and proud that those things have been emulated in different industries, whether it's the legal industry, the technology industry, the pharma industry, lots of different groups are looking at us to follow our lead, which is terrific.
Edward Skyler
analystGreat. Thanks, Suni. So we'll turn it over to Nick. Nick, you're a marine veteran, as Chris will be happy to know. And I want to hear a little bit about the transition that you need. Tell us a little bit about your path, why you chose the military and what were some of the challenges that you faced in your service that helped you as you climb the ranks of an incredibly important U.S. company?
Nicholas Lane
attendeeWell, great. Thanks for having me. Happy Veterans Week and an early 245th Marine Corps birthday here. I had a great Marine Corps journey. It allowed me to grow as a person. It allowed me to grow as a leader. My journey started my junior year out of college. I did the OCS program out of Princeton. And then following the military, the GI bill helped we pay for business school. And it's funny, you mentioned challenges, I can remember going down to officer candidate school and meeting Platoon Sergeant -- Staff Sergeant Peters. And from that, he was my drill instructor, and realizing the proverbial I was not in Kansas anymore, I was going to face some new challenges, some new experiences. And I think for me, that's what the military did. It was how do you approach challenges, how do you have this focus on continuous learning, really anchored, I would say and persevere and adaptability and creative problem solving. The mantra of be prepared for the next war, not the last war. And those experiences have really helped me throughout my professional career here, whether it was in 2008 when I was leading strategy for AXA, we had 160,000 people in 60 countries, and we had to completely rethink our business model. In this period, I would say, of economic, health pandemic, a period of important racial reckoning that's going on, how do we evolve our business model and approach challenges from new dimensions? The second for me was, I would say, as a leader, I had won 2 National Championships in lacrosse, but leading my infantry platoon, it was probably the most diverse group I have been part of. And how do you bring people together under a common purpose, a common cause and the attention we all feel as leaders, which is, first and foremost, take care of your people; second, accomplish the mission and really, the importance of training your people to do your job, be prepared to take over your job and do it better than you. I recently was CEO of our Japanese country -- company. And I would say those leadership lessons, connecting with people on a humanistic level and connecting with people around a sense of purpose, were invaluable. So for me, the military was all about how do you challenge yourself to bring out your best self and how do you overcome those challenges in the best way.
Edward Skyler
analystThank you. I want to turn it over to Gary Shedlin from BlackRock. As I mentioned earlier, Gary joined us during the summer. We had a great conversation with Lieutenant General Vince Stewart, talking the Air Force on the topic of racial equity. And it was really an interesting conversation about how to support the blacks and other minorities. And you see what the military can do when they hadn't done historically about getting better representation on the top ranks. But turning it over, Gary, as the CFO of the largest asset manager in the world, you guys have a unique ability to really support the veterans community. Can you tell us a little bit about what you're doing not only to attract veterans but also to retain them?
Gary Shedlin
executiveSure, Ed. And let me just echo everybody's thanks for having us here today. And special shout-out, Chris, to you and thank you for your service. And also as a former Citi alum, to Suni, thank you for your leadership in making amazing organization to what it is today. BlackRock is proud to participate in VOWS and proud to be here today. So look, in terms -- yes, we are the largest asset manager. Unfortunately, our ranks of employees are not nearly the size of some of yours. We're 16,000 strong, but we're trying to do our part nonetheless, and as we think about attracting better, as I think everyone has talked about the amazing characteristics and leadership qualities and professional potential that all of the veterans bring day in and day out to our great organizations, and we 100% agree with that. And we are trying as hard as we can to bring many veterans to BlackRock as we can and to be actively involved in their position from the military to civilian life. We've done a few things here in terms of trying to be more active in that journey. We've dedicated an HR professional full time to try and to bring as many veterans as we can to our professional ranks here at BlackRock. I think that's obviously critically important, to be organized and focused in that regard. We're trying to utilize career fairs for transitioning military life in service academy, career conferences, where we're trying to be actively involved in participating there. We're making a significantly larger use of social media to emphasize our commitment, obviously, as part of the -- of D&I more broadly. We talked about diversity and inclusion, racial equality, really trying to amplify those messages in a much more significant way through social media. But perhaps the most important thing we do is we utilize our employee network, which is called the vet network. And I think we probably got -- and these statistics are always a little hard to get your arms around, but we probably have about 250 vets here in the U.S. alone. The network itself is 600-plus strong, and that's much more of a global network. And we're really trying to use the extensive network of our veterans. And all the people they have come to know throughout their distinguished careers to make sure that we're amplifying all those messages that we are a welcome home and want to bring in that talent because it can be so immediately additive to the firm. So I think really, those are a number of the things we're trying to do to attract that kind of talent going forward, Ed. On retention, I think -- let me just say the first thing, obviously, is we want as many of these amazing people to come to BlackRock. But the reality is, as long as we can help transition veterans from military to civilian life, wherever they end up, we have so many great firms represented here today. We view that as a win. And I know that, frankly, we have limited ability just in terms of what our year-to-year hiring is, but we want to be as helpful as we can. And that's why we've actually partnered with American Corporate Partners, which we think is an amazing organization, both in terms of our people's time as well as our dollars, to help become mentors and sponsors to transitioning military and those who are already in the beginning of their professional careers outside the military, to really help them basically stay wherever they think they have a fantastic career. But again, retention, we're relying on our vet network, which is a dozen or so employee network here we have at BlackRock. Again, to engage our veterans, to foster and support their families, to mentor them, again, much more in terms of peer interactions to make sure we can give me them the guidance and the advice they need to be successful. We're trying to really engage in philanthropy. BlackRock, this year, we'll probably have donated about $1 million to veteran-related initiatives, whether it's American Corporate Partners, whether it's the USO or even React, which is the U.K. partner [indiscernible] organization. And that's been very important. As you mentioned, hosting or cohosting events, whether with General Stewart or General Dockins, we think that kind of awareness and visibility for our veterans and their potential is incredibly important. Holiday packages, being involved with fleet [leave] with the USO, and then probably our biggest initiative started by 2 of our own, Aaron Lehn and Nick Nefouse, is our Vests for Vets campaign. I'm probably wearing our 2020 model, which has just come out this week. And this is just an initiative that we have literally hundreds and hundreds of employees of BlackRock who will be wearing their vests, on Veterans Day, Remembrance Day to honor our veterans, their families. Proceeds from that, go to American Corporate Partners. This is our second year. We are looking for many corporate partners to join our initiative this year. And for those of you who are interested, please Google the BlackRock Veterans Network, and we would love to have you join our initiative next year, and I'd be happy to set you up with our colleagues to make that happen.
Edward Skyler
analystOkay. Thanks, Gary. I want to turn it over to the Commissioner. For those of you who don't know him, he is a West Point grad, served with distinction in both Iraq and Afghanistan and even, apparently, he's a former investment banker. Don't worry, nobody on this crowd is going to hold that against you. But also he's spent a lot of his time supporting the veterans community in the private sector, trying to infuse entrepreneurship and other initiatives and continues to serve as a U.S. Army reservist. So thank you for your service in the public sector as well, and I want to throw into that for a minute and tell us what do you think local governments can actually do to support the local veterans in their communities.
James Hendon
attendeeWell, first off, thank you so much for having me here, Ed. And I just -- a shout-out also to Deutsche Bank alum, to Christiana, also here from DB. Specific to what the local communities can do for veterans, I think that to address all of the veterans who were listening, regardless of what municipality you're in, what city, what state you're at, you've got to know that, that city, that state, that town that village likely has some sort of an active measure to try to work to be right by you. And I can speak to a few things we do here in New York City. But to be clear, I have peers in other cities across the country, and I touch base with them, and it's all different flavors of the ice cream, but it's all ice cream. I just want to just call out a few things that we do here in New York City. One of them is tying in our veterans to -- one of the things we do is hire veterans into our Workforce One initiative, which is something that our small business services department has, which helps a veteran who comes in and says, "Hey, I need a job and I need additional connections to be able to obtain that job, and help getting my resume right.", helps connect those dots, so someone can land in the right place. And that's our Workforce One initiative. Also known as Priority One, specific to veterans. Another thing that we do is our Mayor's Office for People with Disabilities has a job board called NYC at work where these are employers who are specifically open to bringing on many women who have disabilities. And here in New York City, 17% of our veterans have a service-connected disability. It's 41% when you look at just post-9/11 veterans. We have a service-connected disability of some sort. And so it's good to have employees who say, "Look, I have no problems with bringing people on who are in this particular area." As far as our friends over the aging department, not just in New York City but nationwide, roughly 70% of all veterans are older than the age of 55. And so there are significant employment efforts for that older cohort. And with the senior employment program that our Department for the Aging has, it takes a person who is in that age bracket, who's of a certain income group, and says, "Hey, we will pay for you to have a part-time job for a 4-year period." And that's a federal program. So that's something that is impactful to seniors who are veterans across the country, so it's something to think about. And just to give you the other things that we're doing, we've partnered with a great group, the GI Go Fund, who's one of our Vet Connect partners to a platform we have, and they've set something up called Empire Vets, where empirevets.com is a platform where you, as a local veteran, can go and see job opportunities that are available to you, not just in this region but more broadly. And with the empirevets.com platform, what it does is it takes your MOS, your military occupational specialty, and it marries that with whatever you say your civilian experiences and credentials are, and it's almost like an eharmony where it matches you and says, "Hey, we think these are some good employees for you to look at. Press here if you like for us to begin to auto-populate as best we can their online intake tools." And that's one that we've been heavily bullish on, to kind of tell our veterans and take advantage of it. Two other ones I'll mention, and then I'll stop on this one, is New York is a city that is of finance but also it's a city of construction. And so our school construction authority partners have a program called the Opportunity Academy where regardless of your background, they will train you up to be able to take a back-office job in the construction space. And so it's a great bridge for our veterans to go from whatever career they did before or go straight from military into construction and move up the ranks, fitting in at the weight class at which you are appropriate once you leave it. And the last one, I've just spoken at some city auctions, Ed, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Vet Connect NYC, which is our own online platform where we're able to connect veterans to various resources beyond the city services. So if it's something like being tied in with IVMF's Onward to Opportunity program. That's something that we would do through vetconnect.nyc.org. If it's something like being tied the veterans job submission, which I know JPMorgan is a strong partner within, we [tied them to] that through Vet Connect NYC. Same thing goes for vets jobs. And so for us, it's -- we've got things cooking at the city level, and it's not just New York City but across the country, municipalities, we have things that we do to be right by our veterans. But beyond that, all of us have some sort of organism -- tool that we use to tie you into everything else, to make sure you know what else is cooking beyond what we have to offer.
Edward Skyler
analystThank you, Commissioner. I'd turn it over to Bruce Mosler, he's Chairman of Global Brokerage, Cushman & Wakefield. And Bruce, it's hard -- spends a lot of his time, obviously, not just serving clients like Citi but also to go to the veterans affairs issues. And he's been recognized, including getting the U.S. Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation Commandant's Leadership Award and the leadership in [support of] the military by the New York City and New York Council Navy League in the United States in 2017. So somebody who really knows these issues well, he's dedicated a lot of his life to them. And I want to ask you, for the nonveterans that are joining us, and want to know how they can out what are the best ways they can champion and support the veterans community.
Bruce Mosler
attendeeWell, thank you, Ed. Good morning to all. What a privilege to be here, and I want to thank VOWS, Chris Perkins, the Woodward Foundation, for allowing us this moment. And as you know, Cushman & Wakefield is a leading global real estate services firm now with 52,000 people worldwide, over 101 years of proud tradition. And during my 25-plus years, giving away that I've been around for a little bit, of leadership here in various different roles, including on 9/11, serving as CEO from 2005 to 2010 and through the Great Financial Crisis, now as Chairman of Global Brokerage, as you mentioned. I will tell you that now, more than ever, we are operating in a highly competitive and increasingly complex environment. This just goes without saying. Five years ago, at Cushman & Wakefield, we realized, like so many others, that we needed an edge in order to continue our traditions of excellence, innovation and leadership. Our veterans initiative program, quite frankly, is that edge. Make no mistake, the VIP's primary mission at Cushman & Wakefield is always has been and always will be to add value to our firm, our clients and our veteran community. We will not dilute the fact that this program was created in self-interest and not for charitable purposes, knowing that there is an untapped reservoir of unique talent coming out of the military each and every year. We know the numbers. Over 200,000 transitioning service members annually make up the second largest renewable source of talent outside of campus recruitment. The critical difference being, and this is key, Ed, we know that this population is highly diverse, highly educated and has real-world experience performing under pressure in those no-fail competitive and complex environments I described earlier. But perhaps, most importantly, Ed, they understand the values and ethos that we need at Cushman & Wakefield and, frankly, at every one of these firms here today, they understand the values and the ethos that we need to continue our firm's traditions of industry leadership and success. These men and women are, as my friend Jake Wood would say, defining threads in the tapestry of C&W's culture. Our team leaders here have a common vision: to make this initiative the industry's premier veteran recruitment and service multiplier program in the country. It's dedicated to increasing our bottom line revenue while simultaneously enhancing the firm's reputation as the industry-leading veteran employer of choice. And if I could sum it up in a word, what you get when you hire our veterans today is culture. And frankly, what all of us have been talking about is the meaning of culture. Culture counts. So I'm really grateful that we have this moment to talk about the import of veterans. And I'll simply say this, we have more work to do. It is difficult to interpret veterans' resumes. But candidly, at the end of the day, they bring so much more to the table. We know at our organization, the more veterans we hire, now over 1,000 strong, we know that generally speaking, their leadership, their proven ability to work under pressure, Chris Perkins earlier in the program called it their resiliency effect, we know that veterans on a peer basis outperform their peer group. And for all of those reasons, we're blessed and we're fortunate at Cushman & Wakefield. But I know that I speak for everybody on this call today, we're blessed and fortunate that we have a pool of talent like the veterans to select amongst -- and make sure that they're in the right jobs, that the jobs that we hire them into are sustainable jobs. It's essential that you hire a veteran with care, with thought and into the right job so that they have a career path with mentorship for a long time. And commissioner, before I go, I just want to say thank you for what you're doing each and every day, it makes a great deal of difference. So over to you, Ed.
Edward Skyler
analystThanks, Bruce. And we'll hear from Christiana Riley, she is the CEO for the Americas Deutsche Bank. Deutsche Bank has been there from the beginning of VOWS. I remember going to an event on the intrepid and seeing their logo on the board and the entry, and thinking, "Deutsche Bank, really?", but they have a proud and a rich tradition of supporting veterans and a great history in it. And it's something that is very meaningful to see. And we like to hear a little bit from you about what do you think is worth the best in your firm to support the veteran community.
Christiana Riley
attendeeThanks, Ed, I appreciate it. It's an honor for me to be here myself for the first time. Greetings to the Commissioner as a valued and honored alum who can attest, I think, as you say, Ed, to the firm's decade-long support to this community. And in fact, the way we have engaged and supported the veteran community for the past 20 years of the firm's expanded history here on U.S. shores has taught us also a lot about how we have been engaging on our broader diversity and inclusion agenda, which, of course, has picked up a lot of wind in the past couple of months given events here in the U.S. I think what we've learned a lot about how do we best support the veterans community within Deutsche Bank, because being an attractive employer is one thing but it's about making sure that we're including and creating the right culture and offering the right opportunities to be supportive that will ultimately lead us to retain and successfully develop staff within our organization, it's been about the opportunity to really listen and learn from our veteran community and then take the necessary change where it's appropriate to make sure that we're really needing the needs of that community. And I think when we do that appropriate process of listening and learning, it really leads us to all of the great things that, as a firm, we've done, and I can imagine other panelist around the phone have done as well, in terms of creating the right opportunity for balance, right, and recognizing that there's often a lot more going on in the lives of our military veterans in their desire stay connected with their community and to continue to serve where duty calls and looking and listening to the right ways to offer [indiscernible] it's why we are incredibly proud of our military lease policies at the firm that far exceed USERRA standards. That, and many other less tangible ways that we're just making sure that, that ability is there. And given as many other panelists have also talked about the core purpose of this organization is around providing opportunities, I wanted to also take advantage of the fact that this forum is happening virtually today, not just attracting participants in the New York area and talk a bit about Deutsche Bank's opportunities also outside of the New York area. The fact that we operate a large operation center down in Jacksonville, Florida, which is very connected down there to the military community, actively hiring db.com\careers. So if that's something to panel -- to participants here of this forum outside of the New York area that's of interest, I wanted to be sure. Certainly, our firm, I suspect many others represented around the phone were talking about opportunities here broadly across the company and the country and would love to see participation in those. So Ed, I'll hand it back to you.
Edward Skyler
analystThank you, Christiana. We also at Citi have a big representation down in Florida and actually a big outpost near Tampa, and we are able to view off some of those that are serving in the Central Command there as well. So it's a great point that Veterans on Wall Street isn't just about Wall Street, and it's about the national footprint that a lot of these firms have. So thank you for bringing it up, and I think it's a great point. Nick, I want to come back to you and talk about the subject of the support system because, as we know, nobody does it alone. And I want to hear a little bit about how other veterans have helped you throughout your private sector career and how you've supported other veterans personally through mentorship or other support.
Nicholas Lane
attendeeThank you for the question. I think the importance of having a cultural collaborator, somebody that can help you make the transition from military world to the civilian world is critical. When we launched our veterans ERG, that was one of the purpose, to be able to translate some of the skill sets from the military and say how are they practically applicable in civilian careers. As Commissioner Hendon mentioned, I think that MOS translator is spectacular. The other way is helping guide through different choices. The military, there's a career track. You have your MOS. You know what your next job is going to be. It's sort of going off of, I would say, the railroad tracks. When you enter the civilian world or you enter a company, there are so many choices and so many paths. And so in having the opportunity to speak to somebody that's walked down certain paths, find that sense of purpose, find that sense of value, to me, was critical. I think the network itself of -- and Suni said it great, which is here's an area we're collaborating. So I just had a recent example, one of our employees who had been a member of our ERG, his son, a mechanical engineer, a football player, ROTC, 82nd Airborne, tragically was hit by an IED in Afghanistan, paralyzed from the waist down. Working with VOWS, we were able to get him into the Fisher House. He recovered, and he just accepted a job in investment banking at Morgan Stanley. And without that network of people spending their time, articulating what that next step in the chapter was, I think, psychologically was fantastic and then providing those resources. So really, it's having somebody that can translate their military experience to the civilian experience and help talk through different choices that people want to make. And then this community of being able to put the right people with the right firms, I thought Bruce said it great, this talent pool, it deserves that extra little support because when you get them in the company, they're fantastic. And I just hired my chief-of-staff. She's a West Point grad. She taught at West Point. She's in the reserves. And there are tremendous opportunities out there, and people want to give back to the military. I feel a commitment and a personal passion to give back to the generation that's serving today because the prior generation gave back to me.
Edward Skyler
analystWell said. Turning back to Suni, you've made a lot of progress. Where do you think companies have fallen short? And what do you think they could be doing more of?
Suni Harford
attendeeYes, Ed, thanks. We do a lot. Well, I think most firms, if not all firms, now have support networks and ERGs, it's been referred to by several of the folks on the call. We've done well at educating our respective firms on how to hire, how do we resonate. We do very well hiring vets mostly out of college, if I may, those that have returned to school and follow our normal recruiting path. And we're doing well in terms of benefits. I think in philanthropy, the culture of the organization to appreciate veterans and how we treat our reservists, so I think that's all great things to be very proud of. But we remain fairly inflexible in terms of hiring folks. Jake mentioned earlier that he's -- I forget the date, sorry, October 16, maybe, and if you're not hiring anybody until June the following year of your training program, that doesn't help the veterans. They're out of the job as soon as their deployment ends, so we need more flexibility there. The vast majority of veterans actually don't have college degrees, so what are we doing about them? A lot of our companies have staff that don't require a college degree. So how are we reaching them versus our more standard investment banking-type approach. We have -- we've done a good job, I think, dealing with injured and the effect of physical and psychological, but there's always more that we can do in terms of philanthropy and supporting those NGOs as we talk about it. But I'll end on a happier note, I have to say, one of the things that we had talked about in the early days of VOWS, and you had mentioned the Florida effort, it was BofA, Deutsche Bank and Citi at the time, and we wanted to launch a remote -- if you will, a series of tech jobs that could be done remotely, particularly for those that were housebound veterans that had been injured, maybe in wheelchairs and whatnot, commuting wasn't possible. And we never really were able to create something there. So we can hope maybe that COVID has opened our eyes to the possibilities of work from home, the ability to bring people no matter where they are around the country. Most veterans we have found prefer not to work in the big cities. They want to be near their families and where their support network is. They want to be out in their communities where they grew up. So now maybe we can reach all of those veterans and bring them into the workforce and help them out by virtue of this work-from-home phenomenon. So hopefully, we'll be able to leverage that going forward. So we have a lot to do. But again, I will say, I think, we've done quite a bit already, and the momentum is good.
Edward Skyler
analystGreat. Thanks, Suni. You mentioned COVID, it's hard to have a conversation of any topic of any importance without that being looming large. So I want to ask Gary, given all the uncertainty, hopefully, today, it will go down as a positive day as there's the Pfizer vaccine, trial results are out, which is encouraging, but still a long way to go. But given that, what advice would you give to veterans who are trying to enter a job market with incredible uncertainty?
Gary Shedlin
executiveSo Ed, interestingly, I think the biggest challenge we as a firm have had vis-à-vis COVID is how do we onboard people into a work environment when we may not actually get them in the office for some period of time, especially our own culture, which is a very hands-on, in-office -- traditional in-office culture, and I think we'll be adapting to a new normal as well as we take the pulse of a lot of our employees. But the good news is we are hiring. Our business is growing. We're very bullish about our future. And so our -- while our HR strategy may moderate a little bit, I think the good news is from everyone's perspective, veterans included, we're going to continue to push forward. But I do think it creates some uniqueness as it relates to the experience of trying to work yourself into these firms in a more virtual world. And I guess I'd have a few tips. I mean one is, I think, you have to start earlier. I think the reality is that when you can't come into a physical location and kind of go through, let's call it, a traditional speed-dating interview day and meet 10 or 12 people in one single visit and virtual meetings are a little bit more complicated to get your arms around, I think you need to plan for that and to start earlier. Decision-making, unfortunately, can take a little longer when they're not on the same place. One, I think you have to just continue the network as extensively as you humanly can; use, whether it's officers that you've been with who have basically managed to do this successfully. As you're doing your searches, find out whether the organization has a network or an ERG, as people have referred to it, who you can basically reach out to and get advice. I can tell you that there's not a single inquiry, e-mail or otherwise, that myself or anyone in our network won't return immediately. It literally goes to the top of the list when they get that kind of inbound inquiries. As it relates to your own goals and aspiration, I think you really need to have clear goals. I think that -- have a perspective on industry, have a perspective on geography. Know what you're good at. Know whether you tend to excel at being much more of a sales-oriented person. You're a quant person. You have a special talent as a result either of -- if you happen to have training as a formal education or what you actually were doing day-to-day in your military background. Know what you're good at so you can emphasize all of those strengths and discuss it with people and firms so they can find the right place for you. But at the same time, be flexible, sometimes flexibility will be required because, as Suni said, it's -- unfortunately, we have more work to do. Some of these situations are nontraditional in terms of timing or type of job. And so flexibility, I think, will be important. And I think the final point I would say is my grandfather used to say, "If you don't ask, you don't get." and in many respects, don't be afraid to sell. You as -- coming with the background, I think Bruce said it amazingly, this is no longer a nice to have, it's a need to have for all organizations. You don't have to basically put this out there. This is not a gift. This is not charity. This is actually a strategic imperative for all of our organizations to get these very capable people in here. You, coming out and transitioning with your experiences, have the distinct advantage. Don't be afraid to sell that. Make sure to connect the dots. For people, in many cases, the people you may be talking to, like myself, while we're passionate about the cause, don't have first hands-on experience in terms of what you've done, the skill set you developed and how it can be applied day-to-day. And I think basically making sure that you are thoughtful in that pitch and can clearly and accurately articulate that, I think the opportunity is all yours.
Edward Skyler
analystThanks, Gary. Christiana, let's go back to you. Given your perspective in your national role, what do you think of the job market in the U.S. right now? And how can veterans best position themselves to find the opportunity that suits them?
Christiana Riley
attendeeGosh, it's a great day to be talking about that outlook. And I think I would agree with you, I do hope that this -- we look back on this as a historic turning point in this otherwise very challenging year that we've been dealt with. But I think even before we got today's news from Pfizer, we have very clear signs that the economy is on the path to recovery, and that's good news for job seekers in the market. We saw 638,000 new jobs put on in this economy in the month of October, and relative to the peak unemployment levels that we saw during lockdown back in March and April of upwards of 15%. We've got unemployment now in October that's back down nicely just under 7%. So I think there are really clear indicators even before now that kind of potentially game-changing news around the vaccine that we are, as a country, on the road to recovery here. I think one of the other factors that will continue to contribute to that, and is part of the reason why you're seeing, in addition to the vaccine news, markets recovering strongly, because there is likely to be an emerging consensus out of the new administration and the new Congress around fiscal stimulus at some point within the course of the first quarter. Our macroeconomists are predicting about [ 0.75 trillion ] to be approved by the end of the first quarter. So I think all of that is driving us in the right direction and will be a good sign for job seekers. I do want to double down on what Gary said, I think that was excellent advice and from the perspective of a firm who is always actively looking for candidates from the veteran community. Nonetheless, the advice for you to sell yourself in that vein. And I think it's something, again, not speaking from personal experience, but I have observed, doesn't tend to be a natural tendency of the veteran community. You tend to be, I think, naturally very humble about your service and humble about your capabilities. Bring that to the forefront. Employers are looking for it, but we need to be able to uncover it. So I think it really just emphasize what Gary has said about not being ashamed, actively market yourself out there and the strong skills that you're bringing to bear, and good organizations will recognize that.
Edward Skyler
analystOkay. We're running out of time, but I do want to get in terms of both Commissioner Hendon and Bruce before we close out. So related to that, Bruce, what advice or request would you make of business leaders in New York City such as yourself to ensure that veterans do have opportunities as things sort of hopefully get back to normal?
Bruce Mosler
attendeeEd, I would remind business leaders in New York City and around the country of the distinct advantages of hiring our veterans. Chris Perkins said it early on, they are incredibly resilient. And when we're dealing in challenging times like this, and I agree with Christiana, there's tremendous positive news out there when you want to look at the economic landscape, but we're not through this. We're still in the fourth or fifth inning of this pandemic. And so who better to turn to for leadership qualities, for folks that have faced challenges and overcome that and, at the end of the day, know how to move through challenging times and can provide, as I mentioned before, but I want to be -- at the risk of redundancy here, who can lead the rest of their teammates through with a degree of experience that, frankly, many employees don't have. Our veteran workforce, in a moment like this, can present tremendous help, leadership guidance and, at the end of the day, foresight, for the rest of the employee community in our businesses. And so this is a unique moment in time. It is a time when veterans typically lead, and it is a moment in time for us to cherish the fact that we have that leadership within the walls of our organization. So I think now, as never before, we are blessed to have veterans in the workforce.
Edward Skyler
analystPerfect. And I'm going to close with Commissioner Hendon. I want to talk about entrepreneurship, because we talked a lot about how big companies can support our veterans and the value that veterans bring to large organizations. But we don't often talk about veterans and see, frankly, veterans as entrepreneurs. And for a kid becoming Commissioner in New York City, you ran the incubator called the NYU Veterans Future Lab. Can you tell us a little bit about that, and how you see entrepreneurship opportunities for veterans?
James Hendon
attendeeWell, Ed, when I think about what veterans bring to the table as entrepreneurs, I think there's this inherent resilience just from having that experience of having served. I think there's also ability to focus on attacks. Oftentimes, businesses fail because they go in 1,000 different directions as opposed to saying, "This is what I will do. This is my [ product ] market fit, and I will seek this out." And I think that we inherently are just better at just focusing on tasks. I believe that there's a lack of fear. The same thing that, as Bruce was mentioning, as far as the viability the veteran brings to the workplace. I think you see that in an entrepreneurial setting also where I've been in an environment where nothing that I will see here on this landscape will rattle me compared to anything I've seen before. In other words, I am unafraid of what is in front of me, and I will pursue it diligently. I think that's something good for us. And then last, but not least, as far as what veterans bring to the table, when you're in this situation where I don't care who you are or what level of rank you attained in the military, you have been a follower and a leader and you have learned so many things that you've seen through this part of being in the service. When you get the chance to be your own admiral, when you get the chance to be your own general, when you get the chance to have your own ship, so to speak, I think that you take all of those lessons you learned before and apply them right away. So we benefit from all of the experience and wisdom and knowledge that these veterans have when they take up ownership of their own organizations.
Edward Skyler
analystThank you, commissioner. And I want to thank everybody in the panel: Suni, Nick, Bruce, Gary, Christiana. You've all really -- you've done not just a great job supporting this issue but articulating the benefits that bringing veterans into the workforce have. And also talking about some of the challenges, some of the things we can do better going on, it's part of we want to achieve. This gathering is not just to celebrate some of our successes but keep pushing forward, keep finding opportunities and keep supporting those who have done so much for our country. So thank you all very much for what you're doing and what you continue to do. And I will turn it back over to Chris.
Chris Perkins
analystYes, thanks, Ed, and thank you to all of our esteemed panelists. The veterans community is incredibly blessed to have this level of senior support across our industry and beyond. Gary, I've done my best. And okay, right now, we're going to take a quick 10-minute break before we turn it over to Bob Woodruff from ABC News, who will lead the discussion with the 19th Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Joseph Dunford, United States Marine Corps. So we'll see you again, and we're going to reconvene at 11 a.m. Eastern. Thank you.
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