BlueLinx Holdings Inc. (BXC) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
October 4, 2022
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGreetings. Welcome to BlueLinx's acquisition of Vandermeer Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this conference is being recorded. At this time, I'll turn the conference over to Ryan Taylor, Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasury. Ryan, you may now begin.
Ryan Taylor
executiveThanks, operator. And good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to hear more about our acquisition of Vandermeer Forest Products. With me on the call are Dwight Gibson, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Kelly Janzen, our Chief Financial Officer. The call is also being webcast. Access to the webcast and supporting materials are available in the Investor Relations section of our website, bluelinxco.com. We encourage you to follow along with the slides during our call. Today's discussion contains forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ from those forward-looking statements due to various risk factors and uncertainties, including the risks described in our most recent SEC filings. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. Given the timing of this call, I also want to establish that our scope for today will be solely focused on the acquisition announcement. We will not provide any disclosure or updates regarding third quarter results or any other topic unrelated to this acquisition. With that, I'll turn the call over to Dwight.
Dwight Gibson
executiveThanks, Ryan. And good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us for this exciting news. I want to first welcome all Vandermeer Forest Products employees to the BlueLinx team. We respect the work you've done to build and run a high-quality business, and we are truly excited for you to join our team. I also want to thank our BlueLinx teammates, who are involved in the due diligence and integration planning related to the acquisition of Vandermeer. I'll begin by saying that the acquisition is well aligned to our strategy and our disciplined capital allocation framework. This acquisition extends our reach into the Northwest United States, Hawaii and Alaska, provides a platform for specialty products growth and strengthens our relationships with key strategic suppliers. We acquired the business for $67 million, including $3.6 million for a 10-acre site in Spokane, Washington. We purchased the business for $63.4 million or approximately 3.3x trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA as of September. The deal was entirely funded with cash on hand. After funding the acquisition, we are still in a very strong financial position with net leverage below 1x and ample liquidity. As I mentioned, this acquisition is consistent with our stated specialty-focused growth strategy. Over the past 3 years, Vandermeer's specialty product sales have averaged 66% of total sales. They have a strong siding offering and a growing engineered wood business. We believe there are opportunities to pull-through sales of our key specialty products into Vandermeer's markets, including our private label brands, on-center for engineered wood and [ prime links ] for millwork. This acquisition is very compelling from a geographic perspective. We're adding 3 distribution branches in the state of Washington, which are conveniently located near Seattle and Portland, 2 of the largest and the fastest-growing metropolitan areas in the United States. This enhances our ability to gain allocation from strategic suppliers and grow key specialty product categories with our national accounts. Vandermeer has high-quality suppliers, including strong brands such as Louisiana Pacific, [ Roseburg ] and West Fraser. And they serve over 250 customers, including some of our key national accounts, such as [ Builders FirstSource ], Home Depot, LMC and Do It Best. Taking a look at our combined footprint, you can see the acquisition of Vandermeer Forest products gives us coast-to-coast coverage throughout the United States, and we now serve all 50 states. Our due diligence was comprehensive and thorough. Our integration team is being led by a 30-year veteran in the building products industry. And we have a clear detailed plan for seamless integration. In summary, this acquisition checks all the boxes in terms of our strategic criteria. We are excited about leveraging this acquisition as a platform for growth in the most attractive MSAs in the West. That concludes my prepared remarks. At this time, we'll be happy to take your questions.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our first question is coming from the line of Greg Palm with Craig-Hallum.
Greg Palm
analystYes. Congrats on the announcement here. Can you maybe expand a little bit on the background of the transaction just from a standpoint, was this something that process driven? Was this something that was more coming from you? Maybe just a little bit of background would be helpful to start.
Dwight Gibson
executiveYes, Greg, the team did a really, really great job on this. We've been talking about building out our corporate development capability and being really thoughtful around what opportunities we would pursue that would accelerate and complement our strategy, and this is the result of exactly doing that. So identifying the regions of the country that we were excited about, we want to increase our presence in and going through a pretty thoughtful and disciplined process of identifying potential targets and beginning conversations. And that's what happened here, and we're really excited about the outcome.
Greg Palm
analystOkay. Good. I want to dig into the potential revenue synergies here because it sounds pretty meaningful, and you've got a slide strategic rationale. I mean, I think the geographic expansion is pretty clear cut. But can you just maybe go into a little bit more detail on -- just from a synergy potential from a gaining exposure to additional suppliers? I don't know how much customer overlap there is. You talked about some, but there's probably some customers that they're working with that you aren't and frankly, a lot that you're working with that they aren't. And so I'm guessing some cross-sell potential as well, but maybe just highlight a few that you think are more important.
Dwight Gibson
executiveYes. I think you've summed it up quite well. We're excited about the opportunity now to have a growth platform in a part of the country that we are very keen on. And Vandermeer has some great suppliers that are aligned with our specialty-focused strategy, obviously, in the siding side and elsewhere. And we think this creates more opportunity for us to lean into that market and drive growth. And they also are -- it's a market that is well suited for some of the products that we have that they don't currently carry, and we look for opportunities to bring that into their portfolio and offer that more broadly in their region. And there is a good overlap on the customer side, which is also exciting in terms of us being able to do more for our customers that we see meaningful growth with and additional customers that potentially we could bring more capability to. So we're really confident that the growth potential here with the combination is going to be meaningful. And we have a really capable team that's well versed in the market, understand the supply side, the customer side that's really focused on driving the integration here, and we're excited about the potential.
Greg Palm
analystWhat do you think that Vandermeer gains from being part of a bigger organization like BlueLinx versus doing this as a stand-alone independent?
Dwight Gibson
executiveYes. It's just all the things that come with scale, right? So obviously, from a supply perspective, they now have a part of a broader, bigger organization and can have different kinds of conversations with suppliers. And then there's customer opportunities that we now can leverage in a more efficient way, not only for customers that they have that we want to grow with but vice versa. So just the ability to kind of lean into our capabilities on the procurement side, extend their capabilities on the product management side, our private label products are something they're very keen on and we think has great opportunity in that market. We can provide that now in a more inclusive and broader way. And we're just really excited about the opportunities to give them more capability for us to have greater reach and to do more together.
Greg Palm
analystYes. Okay. Great. Congrats again.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Kurt Yinger with D.A. Davidson.
Kurt Yinger
analystGreat. I just want to start on the margin side. I mean, 12.8% over the last 12 months is pretty impressive for, I guess, a business of their scale and how far they deliver Hawaii and Alaska, I would think that would be perhaps lower-margin business. So maybe you could just talk about why you think the margins there are so strong?
Dwight Gibson
executiveSo I'll get started and maybe Kelly could weigh in a bit as well, really well-run business. And interestingly enough, markets like Hawaii and Alaska, the margin profile is probably a bit stronger, just given the local needs in that market and the ability to get product in. And they've done a really good job being present in that market for a while and have established a really good foothold. So we actually like those margins quite a bit. And then their mix. They're really focused on the parts of the home that bring the most value, have great capability on the siding side and have done some really interesting things to establish really strong relationships. So very thoughtful team, capable sales organization, has access to great brands in a good part of the country, and they've been able to perform really well. So we're looking forward to leveraging that and continuing to move forward.
Kurt Yinger
analystGot it. And I think I missed it, but what was the mix of sales, specialty versus commodity?
Dwight Gibson
executiveOver the last few years, they've averaged almost 70%, about 66% of their sales have been on the specialty side.
Kurt Yinger
analystGot it. Okay. Great. And then you talked about the purchase of the Spokane facility. Was Vandermeer previously leasing that? And are there any savings associated with the purchase of the real estate?
Dwight Gibson
executiveThat's an owned facility that they had as a part of their business, and we like it. We think there's a lot of opportunity there. They really have done a good job of creating good capability, and the quality of their facilities fits in with our organization. And we're looking to kind of take that and use that to create more capability and capacity to drive growth in the region.
Kurt Yinger
analystGot it. Okay. And realizing you guys gave the kind of trailing 12 EBITDA number. Is there any way you could provide maybe kind of a 3- or 5-year kind of look back in terms of what the business has done. I mean, obviously, the last 2 years have been pretty exceptional. So just trying to get a feel for maybe what that business looked like pre-pandemic or even 2020, 2021?
Kelly Janzen
executiveSure. Well, we don't have all the detailed look back here available for the call, but it behaved a lot like a well-run business with a similar mix that Dwight talked about just a minute ago. Certainly, they saw some upside in the last couple of years, given the tailwinds that you just talked about. But again, good margin relative to their mix and not wholly inconsistent with the way we think about what margin should be for these types of products.
Kurt Yinger
analystOkay. All right. And then just last two from me real quick. On the synergy front, it sounds like you see the potential for some sales synergies, but is there anything on the cost side? And then secondly, are you going to kind of maintain the Vandermeer brand? Or are you going to try to bring that under, I guess, the BlueLinx umbrella eventually?
Kelly Janzen
executiveI'll take the synergy one. So we certainly do expect some cost synergies. While this is primarily around expansion, growth, leveraging the networks for both sides, as Dwight all mentioned earlier, we certainly do expect some cost synergies. We're still working through what that impact would be, and we can talk about that later. But certainly, as we go to bring our best practices and we've talked about leveraging our services and our scale, we would expect to see some benefit there. And then I'll let Dwight talk about the branding.
Dwight Gibson
executiveYes. So we're excited about the capacity and the capability that the team brings, and our plan is to really be thoughtful about that. But we will be leveraging the BlueLinx brand in the future as we really drive growth and capability to this incredible team and platform that's now part of the organization.
Kurt Yinger
analystGreat. Okay. Well, thanks for the color, Dwight and Kelly. And I'll turn it over.
Kelly Janzen
executiveYes. Thanks, Kurt.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Reuben Garner with Benchmark Company.
Reuben Garner
analystI had some difficulty getting in the Q&A, so I missed part of it, so if any of this is duplicative, apologies. Maybe just to start, I recognize you don't want to necessarily talk about the third quarter's results, but maybe if you could just kind of weigh in a little bit more [ uncertain ] time, how you guys are thinking about -- I don't know how long this acquisition had been in the works, mortgage rates up where they are today. It certainly appears that you're taking -- sticking to the long-term kind of vision, should we expect this kind of activity to continue in the months ahead? Or was this kind of a one-off because it didn't materially move your leverage and it's maybe something you've been working on for a period of time?
Dwight Gibson
executiveYes. Well, thanks for the question. Again, we are very, very focused on driving great outcomes for the company. Our capital allocation framework remains intact and looking for opportunities to create good value. And we felt that this is a really nice step forward for the organization for all the reasons we've talked about, geographic expansion, good specialty mix, strengthens our relationships with some key suppliers, great customer growth opportunity. And we felt that it really checked all the boxes strategically and also fit within our capital allocation framework appropriately. And so excited to kind of move forward. And we're going to continue to really make sure that we take a balanced and disciplined view to the market, particularly as it relates to our capital. We're still in a very strong position as it relates to our liquidity and our leverage, and we're always going to look to maintain that and continue to make sure that we're leaning forward and taking good advantage of good opportunities in -- and creating opportunities to grow cash flows over time.
Reuben Garner
analystDoes this -- so I understand they're serving Portland from the Washington locations. Does having Vandermeer's kind of name presence allow you to maybe organically grow at a location closer to the Portland market or any other markets out west? Or do you feel that the way that it's being served today is, I guess, efficient enough as, I guess, constructed?
Dwight Gibson
executiveYes. So we're looking at all really exciting opportunities for growth, profitable growth in the region. They have good capabilities, good presence that we think we could support and continue to invest in to help them reach the parts of the market that they really want to reach. And so we're open to all opportunities, but it really creates a platform for us in this part of the country that we're going to look to take full advantage of.
Reuben Garner
analystAny sense on what kind of market share they have in those markets? Are they one of the #1 or #2 players already? Or is that sort of the opportunity?
Dwight Gibson
executiveThey're well positioned. So a key player in the market, but we think it's a market that still has some really great potential, really good characteristics, kinds of homes that are built here and the products they need fit well with our strategy. So we're going to look to continue to grow our presence and really continue to make this a very high-performing and strong organization.
Reuben Garner
analystOkay. And then last one for me. Any any risks that you foresee or have already accounted for in terms of revenue dissynergies, whether it be one of the suppliers that you're -- that they are working with or maybe a customer? Any color there would be great.
Dwight Gibson
executiveThanks. We took a really hard look as a part of our diligence and planning. And one of the things that is really encouraging about this opportunity is that it's truly a growth opportunity. We feel really good on the supplier side. I have good confidence that we're going to continue to be able to grow and partner with all the Vandermeer suppliers and similarly on the customer side. And obviously, we don't have any branches in that part of the country. So there's really no overlap from a footprint perspective. So we're confident that this will really be a platform for growth.
Reuben Garner
analystCongrats on the deal.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from the line of Jeff Stevenson with Loop Capital.
Jeffrey Stevenson
analystCongrats on the acquisition of the...
Kelly Janzen
executiveThank you.
Jeffrey Stevenson
analystCan you talk about the decision to use cash on hand to make the acquisition and whether any options were considered as part of the deal?
Kelly Janzen
executiveYes, sure. Thanks for the question. We have been positioning our balance sheet for a while now to get prepared for potential M&A acquisitions. We had talked about that previously. And that was really a part of the strategy, even last year, to raise the cash with the bonds that we did in October. Get our ABL opened up and then start -- as we started generating cash, have that cash on hand to be available for accretive investments such as this. So really, that was the first step as to go and use the cash that we have available before we would go on the line. And that was really the thought process of how we ended up using cash. And as we mentioned in the release, we still have ample liquidity, including cash on hand after this transaction.
Jeffrey Stevenson
analystOkay. Got it. Got it. And then at your Investor Day, you highlighted one of your strategic priorities is increasing your sales concentration at top account. So that seems like there's good overlap with Vandermeer and some of the top accounts you currently work with. Can you talk about kind of the opportunity there and if that was one of the kind of key reasons that made this an attractive opportunity for you?
Dwight Gibson
executiveYes. We like the opportunity to grow share of wallet with good customers, and this clearly allows us to do that, allows us to have bigger, broader conversations. We can talk about service in more parts of the country that can be consistent in different offerings that we could bring. So this, definitely, is a step in the right direction.
Operator
operatorThank you. At this time, we have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I'll turn the floor back to management for closing remarks.
Ryan Taylor
executiveThanks, Rob. This is Ryan. We appreciate everybody joining the call today and listening to the exciting news that we had to share. We'll provide more updates on the acquisition as we disclose our Q3 earnings results in early November. We look forward to talking to everyone then. Thank you.
Operator
operatorThank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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