Bombardier Inc. (BBDB) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 4, 2022

Toronto Stock Exchange CA Industrials Aerospace and Defense earnings 26 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Bombardier's Second Quarter 2022 Media Conference Call. Please be advised this call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the discussion over to Mr. Mark Masluch, Senior Director, Communication for Bombardier. [Foreign Language]. Please go ahead, Mr. Masluch.

Mark Masluch

executive
#2

[Foreign Language] Good morning, and welcome to this morning's call. Our team is on standby after the call if you require further clarification. So you're more than welcome to reach out to me or to my colleague and team who is with us today. [Foreign Language] Mr. Éric Martel. Eric?

Eric Martel

executive
#3

[Foreign Language] So I'd like to welcome all of you this morning to this call. We are excited about sharing our results today with a strong second quarter results and improved guidance on free cash flow. So I think the first thing to say is our Q2 was solid. We are extremely confident in our business but also the resilience that we've been able to structure over the last couple of years. I think one of the highlights for the quarter is clearly the Moody's credit rating upgrade that demonstrate external recognition to what we've been able to achieve. We've launched the Global 8000 also, which solidifies again our position as a leader in the large market segment. We have the [indiscernible] backlog that we had for a long time at the $14.7 billion. This is another positive free cash flow quarter for fifth time in a row, demonstrated our ability also to generate free cash flow. Our adjusted EBITDA, which is, in our mind, our most -- one of our most important indicator is up by 41% year-over-year. And again, the free cash flow guidance that we're telling the market today improved from $50 million to greater than $550 million for this year. So we're also well ahead in deleveraging. We repaid this year $773 million, or $0.75 billion roughly on our debt, so still making progress and deleveraging our balance sheet moving forward. So anyway, those are in our mind, the highlights for the quarter. And with -- okay with everybody, we'll do the questions.

Mark Masluch

executive
#4

[Foreign Language] If we can now turn to the question period, and I'll leave, Jill, the floor to explain the instructions.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] [Foreign Language] And the first question is from Allison Lampert from Reuters.

Allison Lampert

attendee
#6

On the call you were talking about engine jets being considered within your delivery target of greater than 100 jets. Are you referring to delays of delivery of engine to one of your programs, could you specify?

Eric Martel

executive
#7

Yes. No, I was not thinking specific here. As I said, and it's a well-known thing, there is pressure in the supply chain right now. It's pretty much across the board, all engine manufacturer. So we've been working, as I said earlier, also very diligently with everyone. And I think one of the things on the supply chain that Bombardier did well is we took action extremely early in the pandemic. We are redeploying more people in the supply chain to make sure that we're going to monitor the capability and making sure that we were proactive. And I think that there's a payback on this today. Also, we brought back the equivalent of 500 people of work in our own factory. So we created within Bombardier 500 new jobs, bringing back work that was at supplier in our facility to actually make sure that we were more solid. On the engine front, yes, there is challenges. We work with every OEM right now to bring everybody back on track and are pleased, we're sharing with them our practices here to make sure that they do the same. But we reiterated our guidance at greater than 120. And that guidance takes into account that there's a couple of risk. So that's why we're saying greater than 120, but still very comfortable with the guidance we submitted earlier this year.

Allison Lampert

attendee
#8

And just as a follow-up. Have you seen cases of chip shortages within your supply chain, I guess, more on the line with Tier 2 to Tier 3s? And how would that be impacting deliveries of products such as for avionics?

Eric Martel

executive
#9

Yes. So we did pretty much everybody else. So there is some impact, which has been either mitigated or we're monitoring this very closely. It's been affected a little bit our service delivery of spare parts. But every one of our supplier or partner working with us, they have a good plan in place, and we've been working diligently with every single one of them to make sure that we don't affect our delivery or supplier base. But so far, that's why -- and we're confident to reiterate our greater than 120 delivery and our revenue and other metrics for the year.

Mark Masluch

executive
#10

[Operator Instructions] So operator, we'll take the next question.

Operator

operator
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Eric Martel

executive
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Eric Martel

executive
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Operator

operator
#16

The next question is from Nick Van Praet, The Globe and Mail.

Nicolas Van Praet

attendee
#17

I wanted to ask first on supply chain issues. You said you brought the equivalent of 500 people in-house through work that you've taken inside Bombardier. How exactly did you do that? Will you continue to do that? And what is the limit do you see for doing that? I mean in terms of a limit, like how much more business could you -- how much more work could you bring in-house?

Eric Martel

executive
#18

We still got quite a bit of capability available. And I'm talking about here more machining, building major structures. So as you know, we have our plant here in Montreal in Canada that we call internally Plant 1. And they are -- this is where we had the majority of the increase. 2 years ago, we had about 100 people in that facility. We now have 1,400 people and the majority of the increase is due to parts we brought back in and that secure our capability and we still have capability. We don't actually operate that shop on free ship with a few exception, and we still have return capability on equipment available. So we've got quite a bit of capability available if we have to do it. It's always a decision of protecting the supply chain and also being efficient ourselves to do that. So -- but we monitor everything going on. There's a few critical suppliers that we already made a decision to bring things back in like almost 2 years ago, we put that strategy forward.

Nicolas Van Praet

attendee
#19

But if you've taken the equivalent of 500 people in-house, could you double that? Could you triple that? What's the thinking?

Eric Martel

executive
#20

We could probably easily had another -- we used to have like, in some of this facility, up to 2,000 to 4,000 people. So I guess if we're at 2,000 -- at 1,600, today -- 1,500, sorry, we still have quite a bit of room to increase.

Operator

operator
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Eric Martel

executive
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analyst
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Eric Martel

executive
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Eric Martel

executive
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Operator

operator
#28

The next question from Kerry Lynch, Aviation International News.

Kerry Lynch

attendee
#29

I'd like to switch gears a little bit to ask you about the Challenger 3500. And I noticed you mentioned that you autothrottle certifications are key wins. Can you say which certifications there were and what remains before you reach -- what you have ahead of you before you reach market? And also, can you give a little bit of guidance on how many do you hope to deliver this year or where they might go or just a little bit about what your plans are for the remainder of the year?

Eric Martel

executive
#30

Thanks for the question, Kerry. So yes, we've got the autothrottle certification. We've also got the seat certification. So we pretty much have everything in our hands right now, certification-wise, to be able to deliver all airplanes on time. So we're going to be starting, as we said, this quarter to deliver the airplane. So we're in a pretty good place to do that. So we have everything under our control right now with certification already happened and available for us. In terms of number of airplanes, it's part of the greater than 120. We usually don't give -- we don't get specific in terms of which program for competitive reasons, of course. But we are in a good place. And of course, part of the increase on the rates we're talking about for next year, we mentioned 15% to 20% higher. There's some of that, that comes from the 3500, which has been extremely successful in terms of sales since the beginning of -- since the launch almost a year ago now.

Operator

operator
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analyst
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Eric Martel

executive
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analyst
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Eric Martel

executive
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Operator

operator
#36

[Operator Instructions] We have no further questions registered at this time.

Mark Masluch

executive
#37

[Foreign Language] Thank you, Jill. We'll now close the call and leave the last minutes for Éric to -- for the final words. Éric?

Eric Martel

executive
#38

[Foreign Language] But we are extremely, extremely happy with how things are shaping up in our industry, but also at Bombardier. So our industry is solid. We got good visibility on the way forward. We made commitment for 2025, and we are clearly on the right path to deliver on these commitments. We're making progress also across the board on our ESG report. Our metrics are all heading in the right direction but also on the financial standpoint. And again, priority for us will be to continue to reimburse our debt. But clearly, we've been doing everything possible here to get this done. But I think -- as I noted, our EBITDA is progressing year-over-year with today an improvement over a quarter, about a year ago by 41%, which is significant. And I want to reiterate that we are raising our guidance today on free cash flow, which makes our business even more solid moving forward. So I want to thank you for attending the call today. And it's becoming a tradition as we do it every quarter, and we enjoyed to have that conversation with you guys on a quarterly basis. Thank you so much.

Mark Masluch

executive
#39

Thank you, Éric. Thank you. I will now close the line.

Operator

operator
#40

Thank you. The conference has now ended. [Foreign Language]. Please disconnect your lines at this time [Foreign Language]. Thank you for your participation [Foreign Language].

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