Bridgemarq Real Estate Services Inc. (BRE) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 13, 2025

Toronto Stock Exchange CA Real Estate Real Estate Management and Development earnings 22 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good afternoon. My name is Sylvie, and I would like to welcome everyone to the Bridgemarq Real Estate Services Inc. 2025 First Quarter Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to introduce Mr. Spencer Enright, Chief Executive Officer of Bridgemarq Real Estate Services Inc. Mr. Enright, you may begin the conference.

Spencer Enright

executive
#2

Yes. Thank you very much, operator, and good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us on the call today. With me today is our Chief Financial Officer, Glen McMillan. I will begin with a brief overview of our company's first quarter results. Glen will then discuss our financial results in more detail, and I'll conclude by providing some remarks on operational highlights, company updates and market developments. Following our remarks, Glen and I would be happy to take your questions. I want to remind you that some of the remarks expressed during this call may contain forward-looking statements. You should not place reliance on these forward-looking statements because they involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause the actual results and performance of the company to differ materially from the anticipated future results expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. I encourage everyone to review the cautionary language found in our news release and on all our regulatory filings. These can be found on our website and on SEDAR. So we're pleased with the strong momentum we've created in the first months of 2025 and especially given the significant slowdowns in our largest housing markets and global uncertainty created by recent political events. Revenue for Q1 was $78 million compared to $11.9 million last year which reflects the addition of the brokerage businesses that we acquired on March 31, 2024. At its meeting yesterday, our Board of Directors approved a dividend of $0.1125 per share payable on June 30 to shareholders of record on May 30. This indicates an annualized dividend of $1.35 per share, which is consistent with last year's rate in 2024. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Glen for a closer look at our first quarter financial performance.

Glen McMillan

executive
#3

Thank you, Spencer, and good afternoon, everyone. As Spencer mentioned, revenue during the first 3 months of the year was $78 million, a significant increase over the $11.9 million recorded in the first quarter of last year, reflecting the gross commission income from our brokerage operations. Franchise fees did increase marginally due to the benefit of fee increases that we implemented on January 1. The number of realtors in our franchise and brokerage network sits at $20,845, a decline of 1% since the end of last year, a better performance than the overall market, which is down 3% as far as total agents. Our agent count includes 1,931 agents operating at the Royal LePage and Via Capitale brokerages and 708 at our Proprio Direct growth. In the first quarter, the company generated net earnings of $6 million compared to a net loss of $400,000 in 2024 and higher earnings are largely driven by a gain of $5.7 million on the fair valuation of the exchangeable units. Our adjusted net earnings, which considers our operating earnings before certain noncash nonoperating adjustments and payments to holders of exchangeable units amounted to $3.1 million for the first quarter up from $2.4 million in the same quarter last year. The improvement reflects the addition of the operating results of the brokerage operations, lower interest expenses and lower impairment of intangible assets. Cash used in operating activity amounted to $1.3 million in the first quarter as a result of a $4.4 million seasonal increase in working capital. Last year, we generated cash from operating activities of $2.1 million. We also generated $4.1 million in free cash flow in Q1 and a modest improvement from the $4 million generated in the same quarter last year. The Canadian residential real estate market contracted in the first quarter of 2025, closing at $66 billion, a decrease of 7% compared to the same period in 2024. We driven by a 2% decline in the average selling price and a 5% decrease in unit sales. The Greater Toronto area market was down 23% year-over-year closing at $13.8 billion. During that time, unit sales decreased 21%, while the average selling price dipped 2%. The Greater Vancouver market was down 12% year-over-year, closing at $6.7 billion, driven by a 7% decrease in unit sales and a 5% decline in average selling price. And meanwhile, in the province of Quebec, the residential real estate market reported an increase of 22% in the first quarter compared to last year. This reflects a 13% increase in unit sales and a 9% increase in average selling price. Spencer will now provide some additional insights into the market and an update on our operations.

Spencer Enright

executive
#4

Thanks very much, Glen. In the first quarter, market activity dropped by double digits, Canada's two most expensive real estate regions, as we've previously mentioned. The Greater Toronto and Greater Vancouver markets experienced a much softer than usual spring season. The slowdown is largely tied to weakened consumer confidence driven by ongoing trade tensions in the United States that have raised concerns about the country's economic outlook. The Quebec market, as we said, showed strong growth in the quarter with significant improvements in both price and volume. It appears that the uncertainty created by recent trade talk has spurred the market expects unlike the impact on the rest of the country. The Bank of Canada left the key lending rate unchanged at its last meeting. marking the end of nearly a year of consecutive interest rate cut. Central Bank emphasized that amid ongoing global economic uncertainty, forecasting GDP growth has become increasingly challenging and at the risk of inflation reaccelerating has risen. The overhead lending rate currently sits at 2.75% as the bank awaits greater clarity and direction of the economy and how best to respond. In March, Canada's consumer price impact increased 2.3% year-over-year, down slightly from the 2.6% reported in February, mainly due to the lower cost of travel and gasoline. This remains within the bank's target range of 2% to 3%. In this latest labor force survey, Statistics Canada reported that the national unemployment rate rose by 2 percentage points --- 0.2 percentage points to 6.9% in April, followed by a 0.1 percentage point increase in March. With these consecutive increases, the jobless rate has returned to level Class B in November, the highest since January 2017. Given the current trade conflict with our Southern neighbor, it is unclear what the Bank Canada's next rate announcement will be. However, if consumer confidence improves, the modest increase in market activity could emerge in the latter half of the year. Now I'll give you a few updates on the company's operations. Over the last 12 months, our business has expanded significantly with the acquisition of several brokerages, including Via Capitale and Proprio Direct as well as our corporately owned Royal Page branch. Our diverse brand portfolio, led by our 112-year strong flagship Canadian brand, Royal LePage, continues to attract and retain top real estate professionals across the country. And while our agent count was lower in the quarter, the reduction of 1% in our agent count was better than the 3% overall drop in the number of agents in the industry. We remain dedicated to advancing our industry-leading technology platform. particularly those designed for lead generation and client engagement. And we continue to improve our offering in best-in-class training and coaching program for our superior realtor network. During the first quarter, we launched the new proudly Canadian national advertising campaign, highlighting Royal LePage's uniquely Canadian value proposition to both clients and prospects. In addition, to a comprehensive digital advertising strategy, the campaign provides agents in our network with a suite of digital assets to showcase and amplify the brand's Canadian identity across various platforms. We continue to invest in enhancing our realtors productivity through education and the use of artificial intelligence, a key focus for enhancing product efficiency and client service delivery. For example, realtors Proprio Direct and those operating under the luxury banner, Johnson & Daniel, benefit from new and ongoing support for AI integration, including marketing tools and recruiting resources. To enhance its public visibility, our Quebec-based Via Capitale brand launched a comprehensive advertising campaign, including sponsorship of a popular television show, which has earned millions of impressions across a range of media platform. By continuing to invest in these areas, we're driving the growth of our top-performing brands, opening new avenues for success and increasing value for our shareholders. Through our broadened businesses and service offering, we are well positioned to continue to expand our reach across the Canadian real estate industry. Our ability to attract and support high-performing real estate professionals remains a key driver for the long-term value we offer our shareholders and we are confident we are equipped to continue to thrive and grow regardless of the market dynamics at play. With that, I'll turn the call back over to our operator and open the call to any questions you may have.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions]. First question will be from Jeff Fenwick at Cormark Securities.

Jeff Fenwick

analyst
#6

I wanted to start my questioning off with the realtor base, let's say, there. And if you look over the last few quarters, that's been slowly contracting. And just wondering if you could comment a little bit on the factors that might be driving that. And then looking forward, how much of a focus are you putting there on growing either the franchise network or potentially the broker network here?

Spencer Enright

executive
#7

Yes, for sure, Jeff. So first of all, if you dial back a couple of years, we saw a significant increase in registrant in the industry. A lot of that was driven post-pandemic to people looking at this as a new career. And so we saw a huge intake of new looking to make a realtor profession in their new career. Since then, we've seen some moderation for that. It's not an easy business to be successful in. And so we've seen some moderation of that. I'd say from our network standpoint, and I mentioned this at our AGM this morning, our realtors are 1.5x more productive than the rest of the market. We have such an outstanding caliber of productive and successful realtors that we're not nearly as impacted by new entrants that have tried and not made a goal, but we certainly do have some attrition in our network, but not anywhere near to the extent of what you see industry-wide. And so that's one of the major, I think, factors that's impacting the industry and much less so ourselves.

Jeff Fenwick

analyst
#8

And then obviously, under the new structure, I think part of the business plan was to be a bit more focused on driving growth here. So just how do you approach sort of business development. Is it any different now? Or are you a bit more active in recruiting? Would you contemplate acquiring other brokerage platforms to presence?

Spencer Enright

executive
#9

Yes. Recruiting is an ongoing effort by all of our brokerage operations. So every individual entrepreneur who is a franchise fee for us recruits on a daily basis. as well as our own employees and our corporately owned branch operation. That's kind of what I call organic recruiting. And you'll see in any given time, additions there all across the country. From a franchising standpoint, we do add new franchises. We added several in the last quarter across both Via Capitale and Royal LePage, they factor into the total agent count numbers that we show. We don't necessarily highlight that as a separate growth path, but we've seen some good success in new franchises across the country. And then in terms of any acquisitive growth, I wouldn't say that, that's our core strategy for growth. It's certainly opportunistic, if it makes sense. But we've got the brands we need to cover every -- I would say every need that either realtors or consumers are looking for in Canada. So we're not looking necessarily to add brands, but we're looking to always add high-quality realtors to our brand and our network. And so I would say more of the organic side is our core focus and will continue to be for the balance of the year. And then from we will look at acquisitions of other brokerage operations, but those are -- as they happen and we validate and assess those on a case-by-case business. There isn't necessarily consistency to that or a predictability to that, it's when opportunities arise.

Jeff Fenwick

analyst
#10

Okay, that's helpful. And then maybe you could comment just on your comfort with the run rate of the business versus the payout ratio. I know we've just come through a couple of seasonally weaker quarters. So we're hoping that we'll see a nice step-up in activity here through the spring and summer. But I did note that you had you drew $4 million on your operating line. Payout ratio is still running above 100%. So I mean, I guess you have options of looking to obviously work on things like marketing and broker productivity. But how comfortable are you there? Are there areas maybe for some cost savings that might help out as well?

Spencer Enright

executive
#11

Yes. So for sure, Jeff, I think what we see on a quarter-by-quarter basis, this is a cyclical business each quarter in a fiscal cycle will be different from the other ones. And what we see in the first quarter typically does have a robust spring market. We haven't seen as much of that. as perhaps we would have liked to have seen or thought we lead in Toronto and Vancouver. But like as I mentioned, Quebec is very strong, outperforming expectations from a market standpoint. The majority of our cash flow is driven off of our franchise fee structures with our franchisees, very stable month by month. And so as we go through the year, we'll see each quarter contribute in a slightly different way to our full year cash flows. But at this point, we're on target with where we expected to be for the quarter. And we have to wait and see how quickly the markets rebound in Toronto and Vancouver. We're still very confident and bullish on the underlying macro factor affecting demand. Supply is still constrained, still an issue. And while affordability is an issue, the demand for housing is very strong. So we do expect the markets to improve versus what we saw in the first quarter. And that will definitely help us generate cash flow, certainly in our brokerage operations as we go through the balance of the year.

Jeff Fenwick

analyst
#12

Great. And then maybe one, I guess it's related to broker productivity, which you mentioned you have a strength in. And I noted your commentary on the AI tools that you've been rolling out at Proprio. So what are the sort of plans there? That sounds like something that could certainly be very helpful. And is it a solution that you could roll out in time across the rest of your operations?

Spencer Enright

executive
#13

Yes. In fact, we've launched AI tools across all of our brands. I highlighted what we did on one, but really, it's happening everywhere. What we've seen, of course, is realtors as they go about their business of securing clients, servicing those clients and helping Canadians find home of their dreams, that they're looking to engage and leverage technology as much as anyone. There's lots of ways to do that in the real estate industry. And so we're providing access to tools, access to functionality, training those realtors on those. So they don't have to go through that learning and discovery phase on their own individually. We're doing all that heavy lifting for them. and then kind of giving it to them in terms of best practices and some guided training. But it's happening across the board. So in Royal LePage, for sure, we're doing a lot of that. And so I highlighted one, but we're doing it everywhere.

Jeff Fenwick

analyst
#14

That's great to hear. And then maybe just one last one here. I noticed the -- it looked like the commission payout ratio was a little less than expected, meaning Bridgemarq retained a bit more of that -- those gross commission dollars in the quarter. Can you just remind us what the factors are there? Is it -- I guess it's maybe the mix of which brokerage groups are generating the revenue and they all have slightly different commission rates? Or is there some other factor there that would be impactful.

Spencer Enright

executive
#15

I'll turn it to Glen for some details. In broad terms, any given quarter compared to another, you're going to see mix variances. Mix in geography because how much we get in terms of commission split varies by region mix in which realtors are the ones that are doing the deals because we have different agreements with different realties spending on their success and their productivity. But that's just more of a general sense. Glen, do you want to add to that?

Glen McMillan

executive
#16

Yes. The only thing I would really add is we talked on the franchise side of the business that there is on for variable franchisees, there is the impact of capping that happened. And while it's much less common on the brokerage operations, we do have some -- and as Spencer said, the brokerage split plants are different by brokerage, by brand, by geography, it's a very complicated web. And we do have some that are subject to capping. And so that happening, we tend to see that in the fourth quarter, no capping in the first quarter.

Operator

operator
#17

[Operator Instructions]. And at this time, Mr. Enright, we have no other phone questions.

Spencer Enright

executive
#18

Yes, terrific. Thanks, operator. Do we have any other questions?

Glen McMillan

executive
#19

There's no questions.

Spencer Enright

executive
#20

Well, with that, first of all, I'd like to thank everybody once again for joining us on today's call. Look forward to speaking to you again after we release our Q2 results in August. Take care.

Operator

operator
#21

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, this does indeed conclude your conference call for today. Once again, thank you for attending. And at this time, we ask that you please disconnect your lines.

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