Brilliant Earth Group, Inc. (BRLT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 12, 2023

NASDAQ US Consumer Discretionary Specialty Retail conference_presentation 31 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Brooke Roach

analyst
#1

Good afternoon, and welcome to this next session of our Goldman Sachs Global Retailing Conference. My name is Brooke Roach, and I cover the Apparel, Accessories and Brand sector here at Goldman, and I'm very pleased to present our next session with Brilliant Earth. Here today with me is Beth, Co-founder and CEO; and Jeff, CFO. Welcome, Beth and Jeff.

Beth Gerstein

executive
#2

Thanks, Brooke.

Chuenhong Kuo

executive
#3

Thank you.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#4

Well, Beth, maybe we could kick it off with a question about the value propositioning of Brilliant Earth. What is that value proposition relative to competitors today? And how does that translate into your opportunity to grow market share?

Beth Gerstein

executive
#5

So, the way we think about it at Brilliant Earth is really thinking about brand, product and experience. So, I'll start with brand. I think that the brand to the consumer is incredibly important in our category. It's a very emotionally-driven purchase. And for us, our brand is really about creating authentic connections with our customer, having a mission-driven approach that's centered around sustainability, transparency and inclusivity and also making sure that the brand stands for a really premium high-quality product. So, that brings me to my second point here, which is, the product, I think, is also incredibly important as it relates to the jewelry consumer. Where we position ourselves is creating very high-quality premium, very thoughtfully designed products. And we really think of ourselves as more trend leading. So, we're constantly curating that collection for the customer and we have a lot behind the scenes that enables us to do that, but really making sure it's personalized, very thoughtfully designed, and high quality. And then, as it relates to experience, we've really approached this category in a very different way. From the beginning, we wanted to create a joyful, luxury experience. So not something that you felt pressured by, that you thought was stressful. And keep in mind, for many people, this is their largest purchase to-date, and so it can be a very intimidating process. And so we want to make sure that it's something that is enjoyable, that it's very much a guided, high education type of purchase. And so, how we do that is creating a really seamless omnichannel experience. So, we're digitally native, started out online, but very early in our journey realized how important showrooms were in terms of making sure that, that customer could really touch and feel the product and have a really high trust for the brand.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#6

You mentioned the showroom strategy, which I think is one of the big growth drivers of the company over the course of the next couple of years. I was hoping, could you contextualize the opportunity that you see here and provide any initial learnings that you've seen from some of the early initial showrooms that you've rolled out?

Beth Gerstein

executive
#7

Yes, I think that we have a huge opportunity as it relates to increasing our physical footprint. Right now, we're going to end the year with about 37 showrooms that we've announced. We actually just launched in the mall, which we can -- I'm sure, talk about later.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#8

That was going to be my next question.

Beth Gerstein

executive
#9

Okay, well then, I'll save that one. But what we see is that there's a lot of pent-up demand when we go into a market and really having a showroom unlocks some of that demand. And it's high converting. It's also a really strong customer experience because it's highly personalized, it's curated. What we do is, we often know what customers are looking for before they come in because it's appointment driven. And then, we're able to curate that appointment that's really specially designed for that customer. So the customer really feels like it's something special for them and that's what leads to both a better experience as well as something that is high converting as well. So we're early in the journey. We see that unlock in the metro, and we've been really experimenting with different formats. So, we started off upper floor that was much more appointment driven. And then since then, we've opened additional ground floor locations that continue to have the appointment-driven component, but it also enables a more walk-in browsing type of customer. And that allows them to see just the variety of assortments that we have from bridal to the fine jewelry offering that we've been also focusing on.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#10

As you've adapted that strategy from the upper floor to the lower floor and now into malls, what's evolving in the showroom strategy and what are you seeing as a result?

Beth Gerstein

executive
#11

I think that what's most important is to be where the customer is shopping. And so, in some markets, it makes a lot of sense to be upper floor, both financially as well as how the customer is shopping. We tend to be in prime retail districts when we're in places like Oak Street in Chicago, for example, or Newbury Street in Boston. In additional markets, they're much more used to shopping in a mall, for example. And so we're going into Long Island in Roosevelt Field. And that's because, for that market, we know that that's how the customer is shopping, that is highly trafficked. It's one of the premier malls in the country. And we're able to accommodate the appointment-driven model that we have, but now we're going to see additional benefits as it relates to that walk-in customer and driving awareness.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#12

Jeff, do you want to come in here and comment about the financial implications of the showroom strategy?

Chuenhong Kuo

executive
#13

Sure. The showroom economics are compelling for a number of reasons. One, we've talked about or the uplift that we see across an entire metro when we open those showrooms. And so that's how we look. We're looking for it to be accretive in terms of being able to drive uplift when you consider the metro in its totality, including e-commerce and showroom. And that's one of the things that we really like about them is the ability to unlock that demand. We already have the awareness there, but the ability to unlock demand across a broader range of customers also that's, of course, accretive to the customer acquisition economics, and it also helps to build brand halo and awareness across the entire metro area.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#14

You mentioned that brand halo and awareness that the showrooms build, but you've also been testing some alternative marketing strategies as well, including key consumer moment marketing. I'm wondering if you could provide additional context on how your marketing strategy is changing?

Beth Gerstein

executive
#15

Well, just the same way that it's important to cater real estate to where the customer is, I think, for marketing, that's essential as well, like what are the channels that our target demographic are using the most? And for us, our demographic is that 25-to-40-year olds. Social media is incredibly important, so we've really been investing in places like TikTok actually for several years now. And also just making sure that across the funnel, we're able to both optimize in terms of the metrics we're seeing, but also driving really high engagement and awareness. So we've used channels like Connected TV, for example, and have really nice quality video that really showcases who we are as a brand. And then we layer on top of that some really nice brand moments. So, I think in the last earnings call, I talked about how we have on deck, one of our biggest brand moments, biggest brand campaigns that we've ever had in our history, and that's coming up. And it's just great ways for us to continue to connect with our customers, to be fresh and innovative. We just released a collection called our Carbon Capture Collection. And that was really very innovative in the lab diamond space and something that we can really show differentiates us and it's a great way for us to message to our consumers. So, we're constantly innovating, coming up with new products, introducing collaborations and then amplifying that with influencers and on social in order to make sure that our community really is able to engage with it.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#16

Jeff, as you think beyond this year's investments that the brand is making in marketing, where do you see the most opportunity to drive marketing leverage?

Chuenhong Kuo

executive
#17

I think there are a few different areas which are really a continuation of things that we have already been doing. One, as we continue to grow that brand awareness. I think that has benefits in terms of people becoming aware of the brand, our ability to convert them. And so we've seen good success in building our brand awareness in recent years. And so that is something we expect to continue investing in, which will drive marketing leverage. Another area is the showrooms that I just talked about and some of the accretiveness to the acquisition economics within those metros, given that we see that uplift across the entire metro post-opening. So that's something that's beneficial. And as we have more showrooms across different metros, we see areas to drive leverage there. I think another area is fine jewelry, where as we expand and continue to have success in fine jewelry, that allows us to drive additional repeat purchase behavior, increased LTV. And so, those are areas that -- think are areas that we've been investing in, we've been seeing success, and we expect to be able to drive leverage from some of those -- from those.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#18

Beth, Jeff brought up fine jewelry. And a lot of legacy customers know Brilliant Earth primarily for engagement rings, but this fine jewelry business has been a growing aspect of your business. Can you contextualize the size of that business today and what the most important growth drivers are for fine jewelry?

Beth Gerstein

executive
#19

So, the way we look at that overall market, it's $300 billion fine jewelry market. I think there's a ton of opportunity, especially as it relates to brands in this market. The branded segment is growing even faster than the overall market is. So, as it relates to Brilliant Earth, we see this as a really large and growing opportunity for us. We've been investing in the assortment, in the marketing. We actually recently did a campaign with Logan Hollowell, which is a jewelry designer. We did events around it, and it generated a lot of buzz and excitement. It also, I think, is a great way for us to take a very loyal customer and then make sure that they understand that we have additional offerings for different milestone moments that they have. So, I think it's something that we're able to drive repeat. We're also attracting new customers, because the brand resonates with females as well. That's an important part of our industry, is self-purchase. So that's an area that we've been doing exceptionally well in.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#20

And as you think about the opportunities to get that self-purchase customer to come back time after time, what emerging areas of success have you been having in that fine jewelry customer? Is it that bridal customers are now navigating to fine jewelry or are you able to get that fine jewelry customer to repeat?

Beth Gerstein

executive
#21

It's both actually. It's important for us to be able to drive repeat with the customers that we worked so hard to acquire in the first place and make sure that we have really strong customer experiences so that they'll come back to us for additional purchases. And then I think it's also exciting that we're able to attract new customers as well into the brand. And you can see from the order growth that we've had and from some of the customer growth numbers that we've shared as well that the strategy has been working really well.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#22

And Jeff, how does the fine jewelry growth impact the economics of your business?

Chuenhong Kuo

executive
#23

So, one of the areas is related to what I was just discussing on marketing efficiencies. I think there's the ability to drive additional repeat and lifetime value with those customers. So to be able to engage with them in more different points throughout their life cycle over the years. And so we see that as beneficial. And we see there's also opportunities in higher-margin fine jewelry. So we like fine jewelry for a number of different reasons.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#24

That's great. Let's bridge the strategic growth drivers of your business to the current environment today. It's been somewhat of a choppy macro and jewelry is no different. How would you characterize the health of the jewelry customer today? Are there any shifts in consumer behavior that you're seeing now that are emerging, whether that's by demographic, by age of the customer or other customer trends that you think are worth watching?

Beth Gerstein

executive
#25

Yes. I would say that, certainly, I think there's macro considerations that we've experienced the same way that others have, as you mentioned. How we think about that is, we're continuing to invest in the brand and continue to drive share, regardless of what the conditions that we see are. We're coming off of these very, very big years in weddings and in jewelry. And we're looking at a more normalized type of environment, but one that we can continue to be successful at. We look at that 4-year horizon, I think we've been doing really well, growing at over 20% CAGR, and just continue to have to think about, regardless of what the environment is, how can you speak to the customer and meet them where they are. We offer a really wide variety of price points. So even if their budget is shifting, we're able to have a really nice offering, regardless of where they're coming to us at.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#26

You mentioned bridal there. Last year was the year of the weddings. And we're starting to cycle some outsized years, a few years of engagement. What's your outlook for the bridal category overall? And what gives you confidence in normalization as you look ahead?

Beth Gerstein

executive
#27

This is a category that we've been operating in for about 18 years now. We've seen the resilience, really in different types of macroeconomic environments. People are going to continue to get engaged. The diamond engagement ring is here to stay, and it's very consistent year after year in terms of what percent of the market it represents. So, overall, I think that it's a staple of the market, and we expect that, yes, we've come off of a disruption, one that obviously none of us could have expected. But really expect -- looking at that 4 year view, we're going to see the normalization, and then I think in the future, it's going to be business as usual.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#28

One of the questions that we're asking every company at our conference today is that of share of wallet. There's been a lot of discussion about consumers and whether or not they're spending their dollars on experiences versus things. As you look into next year, what do you think the most important factor is to drive growth in the jewelry category, in your view?

Beth Gerstein

executive
#29

I think that the -- frankly, like the normalization of engagements is going to start to come up by next year, and that's going to be a driver that lifts all the boats. But as I said, regardless of what we see and what the specific timing is, we're going to focus on outperforming, just like we have been doing every year. And as long as we're increasing market share, once you see things start to get more in a normalized cadence, I think you'll start to see even more outperformance.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#30

One of the other questions that we're asking every company at our conference this year is that of the consumer backdrop. Do you think that the consumer will be facing more headwinds or less headwinds next year compared to 2023? And as you think about the health of your consumer, do you expect to see any trade down or change in demographic behavior?

Beth Gerstein

executive
#31

I honestly think it's very hard to predict. I appreciate that there's a lot that we're going to start to learn. But even this year, I think, has been very volatile and hard to predict. And I think, one of the benefits of our model is we're very inventory-light. So because of the virtual inventory and make-to-order dynamics that we have, as soon as we see demand start to increase, we're able to meet that demand. And so, in some ways, like we're ready for the consumer. We're able to offer different price points. So, we have the right experiences for them, and so we'll be there the second that they want us to be.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#32

Your business is very inventory light, as you pointed out. But the rest of the jewelry industry isn't necessarily that case. What do you see in terms of the health of the jewelry industry inventory levels in aggregate today? And do you think that some of the other industry participants have started to work through some of their excesses?

Beth Gerstein

executive
#33

I think you probably see a variety of different situations. I mean, keep in mind that the majority of our industry is composed of these independent smaller jewelers. So, we're going to see a wide variety of different behaviors just based on that fragmentation. Generally speaking, it's an industry that does tend to tighten their wallets when they're not seeing the demand that comes through. I think holiday will be very interesting to see, but typically purchasing right now is, I think, a little bit lower than others had expected. But it will be interesting to see, based on all of this disparate behavior.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#34

As you look ahead into holiday, how are you thinking about the promotional environment? Is that a risk? And where have you forecasted more opportunity for sales contribution this holiday versus -- on a category basis?

Beth Gerstein

executive
#35

Well, I'll just start that question by saying that we're not a discount-oriented brand, so we don't really participate in some of the heavy promotions that you might see. And frankly, I think that's why our brand has endured and has such a high quality. And overall, we -- it's a category where you do see discounting. It's not the customers that we're chasing, and what's important for us is that we continue to invest in profitable growth and not chase the discounts because that's not going to be a long-term sustainable advantage for us as a company.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#36

As you think about pricing in your business, and Jeff, you mentioned this on the last call about how you were seeing more momentum with sub-$10,000 categories versus over $10,000 categories. Some of that has to do with mix shift between bridal and fine. How are you thinking about the opportunity for you to grow AURs as you look forward?

Chuenhong Kuo

executive
#37

I think I would characterize our approach to thinking about pricing as being agile and dynamic. And so, this actually relates to the price optimization engine that I've spoken about in the past. And so I think one thing that differentiates us from a lot of the industry is that we are able to price dynamically and factoring things in more closer to real time than others are. We're able to see trends that are happening in the market, factoring input costs, consumer demand, seasonality and be able to strike that right mix of optimization between driving top line and gross margin percentage. I think that couples really well with our inventory-light model, so we're able to adjust and meet demand where it is in a variety of environments. And I think we were seeing that success in our ability to gain share, and so I would just say the agility and dynamism is really how we approach that overall.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#38

Sticking with you. Last quarter, you delivered outsized gross margin performance, up over 450 bps year-on-year. What are the most important drivers near-term that you see in gross margin?

Chuenhong Kuo

executive
#39

So, overall, we've been able to drive our gross margin by a number of different factors. One is the strength of our brand. So that is important for us to cultivate the premium brand and be able to participate in this gross margin space, and so that's central to our gross margin as well as growing the top line. And operationally, there's a number of different factors. So the price optimization engine that I just talked about allows us to strike that balance between growing the top line and gross margin percentage. And we saw some strong performance in the most recent quarters that they exceeded our expectations, and we're pleased to see that. We also work continually on procurement optimization. So this could be things like vendor mix optimization and terms and things like that. And we've also talked about our enhanced extended warranty program as something that's allowed us to drive this gross margin. And we work to -- continue to work where we can to expand gross margin.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#40

As you bridge that near-term gross margin driver to your longer-term forecast, is mid-50s still the right long-term target? Or do you think that there's a lot more scope for stronger for longer?

Chuenhong Kuo

executive
#41

Yes. So, we recognize that our most recent quarter performance is really above that mid-50s range. And so, we haven't yet extrapolated that out into an updated long-term guidance as we're still kind of early in some of the enhancements that we've made. We have talked about, for the second half, a guidance of gross margin that's kind of similar to what we saw in H1, so that was a bit of a step up, and we'll be examining that and thinking through how that might update our long-term margin target. But we haven't, as of yet.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#42

Let's step down to the EBITDA level here. Can you discuss your view of your businesses normalized EBITDA margin structure versus the outlook of about 6% this year? What are the key levers to get there? And what factors are in your control versus what's the function of the external environment?

Chuenhong Kuo

executive
#43

Sure. So, for our long-term targets for adjusted EBITDA percent, we've talked about a 15% to 20% plus adjusted EBITDA percentage target. Some of the things besides gross margin that factor into that are some of the things that we talked about earlier regarding marketing leverage opportunities. So, growing the awareness of the brand, the showroom accretiveness to customer acquisition economics, being able to drive additional repeat purchase behavior through things like fine jewelry, all, I think, play a part in terms of being able to drive leverage in terms of marketing as a percentage of sales. And then, in terms of some of the other areas like employee costs and other G&A, as we've made some investments before going public, after going public in terms of things like public company operating expenses, building up some of the corporate team, we do expect to be able to amortize investments over a broader revenue base over time. And I think you've seen some of that trend line in our recent results as we've talked about our SG&A. And so, I think those are some of the areas that we will be pulling levers to drive towards that longer-term target.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#44

One of the things that consistently gets called out by investors is your healthy control of working capital, especially as you continue to build out showrooms, which is typically very inventory-heavy to build out a store fleet. Can you talk to your view of working capital and also free cash flow for the year?

Chuenhong Kuo

executive
#45

Yes. So, our approach to working capital has been and continues to be, to be efficient and asset-light. So, I think one characteristic that I think differentiates us is our ability to have a very attractive working capital model. So, for example, we have the Create Your Own Business where we're making the ring, bringing the diamond after we have an order that is from a consumer. So then that inventory is just going to be transiently on our balance sheet before it's fulfilled to the customer. So that has attractive characteristics. We're able to dynamically rebalance inventory across our showrooms, so we can have the breadth of offering, but be able to rebalance that in an efficient way. And that leads us to be able to have efficient inventory turns that are much higher than the rest of the industry. So that contributes to how we think about working capital overall. And then in other areas, for example, like CapEx as a percentage of sales, we continue to work to keep that efficient. And so, when you combine profitability, efficient working capital model, being thoughtful about CapEx, I think that all contributes to being able to generate free cash flow, and that's something that we really work to try and manage the business to.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#46

That's great. One of the hot topics of the last couple of weeks is consumer credit. And we've heard a lot of companies talk about a tightening consumer credit environment with rising delinquencies, some increases in bad debt. While not always, it is common for jewelry and the industry to be bought on credit, does this have any impact on your business at all? And if not, what protects you from that?

Chuenhong Kuo

executive
#47

We work with a number of different credit partners. We have like a third-party -- couple of different third-party offerings for credit. And those are offerings that are -- we're not bearing the credit risk and repayment risk on those. And so we like to offer a range of different options to basically meet people how they want to shop, how they want to pay for things. And we're continuing to do that and glad to be able to offer a variety of different payment options.

Beth Gerstein

executive
#48

And it's not something that I think we've seen a material impact recently as it relates to some of the financing, but it's not the majority of our business.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#49

That's great to hear. Thank you. Technology investments, what investments are top of mind for you today? And where are you looking to invest into the future?

Beth Gerstein

executive
#50

We are big in terms of investing in technology. It happened from the beginning as an e-commerce company. I think that's just crucial. I think investing in personalization is really important. How we think about using AI, I'm sure that's come up once or twice in your conversations. I think just what do you do with the data that you have and look for insights, but also make sure you're driving efficiencies and improving customer experience. So I think there's a big emphasis right now in our company as it relates to data and personalization, and really making sure that we're targeting that customer in a really effective way.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#51

And as you think about that data and personalization, how is that impacting your product generation pipeline of innovation? Is it changing the way that you think about designing? Is it changing the way that you think about collaborating? Or is it just impacting the way that you're marketing and speaking to that customer?

Beth Gerstein

executive
#52

No, I think it has ramifications kind of throughout the company from operations to product development. As it relates to product development, I think there is art and science that you have to balance really carefully. But certainly, I think we have been incredibly data-driven in terms of understanding how we can create a product portfolio that is highly productive, that's highly curated, and make sure that we are leading on trends. And so that's a difficult thing that we're constantly trying to optimize for.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#53

And the celebrity partnerships, given the success of your most recent one, how are you thinking about that opportunity to lean into that as a marketing driver?

Beth Gerstein

executive
#54

Well, I think that there is a big opportunity for the brand to continue to increase in terms of visibility to the end consumer. I think that we're talking to a generation that is very impacted by influencers of all kinds. And that's something that we see a high degree of success with as we engage with people on social, in our campaigns, et cetera. So celebrities have a variety of different meanings. But for us, it's about how do we find people who can authentically speak about our brand and our mission and drive desire in the product? And that's something that I think we are starting to see success with, and we're going to continue to lean into.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#55

Great. Jeff, maybe we could shift to you for a moment. What are you seeing in terms of procurement and input costs? And what's your outlook for those costs going forward?

Chuenhong Kuo

executive
#56

Yes. So, for procurement costs, I think I might refer back to some of how we're working capital efficient and pricing dynamically because it's something that we want to be able to adapt, and we have been able to adapt to a wide range of market conditions. And so it's something where as we see fluctuations in input costs, we're able to factor that into our pricing algorithms and think about how do we factor that into where we're pricing to our consumers who, again, drive that mix of top line and gross margin percent. And I think it does really pair well with the light working capital model. So we're able to move quickly, move with agility, and take small smart bets that we're adjusting continually. And that's been our approach since our inception and something that continues to be an advantage for us.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#57

One more for you, Jeff. How are you thinking about capital allocation? Can you share your latest thoughts on how you're managing all of your various investments?

Chuenhong Kuo

executive
#58

There are a lot of opportunities for us to continue to make investments in areas that we have been investing. So, growing brand awareness. We've had success in growing awareness of the brand overall. And we were seeing results of that in things like our aided brand awareness. And we see continued opportunities, like the opportunities that Beth was talking about, some of these big brand moments that are coming up. So that's one area. We're still early in the journey with our showrooms and see opportunities to continue to invest there in different formats and are heartened to see the success that we have and to grow in areas like fine jewelry. It's still a small part of our business, but it's a large part of the industry overall. And I think there's very attractive opportunities there. And so there's really continuation of the investments that we've been making and we're excited about what lies ahead.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#59

Beth, we're almost out of time. Are there any final thoughts or closing comments that you'd like to share with the audience? And if not, what excites you the most as you look ahead for your brand?

Beth Gerstein

executive
#60

I think that -- first of all, I appreciate all of you coming here, so thank you for that. For us, we're really about creating and reimagining a very different type of experience in a more traditional industry. And so, we're innovators. We've created a brand that has meaning to our customer segments and that we're going to continue to invest in. And we've been doing it profitably, which I think also sets us apart. And we do it in a really, I think, innovative way as it relates to being much more capital efficient and inventory light. So those are probably the takeaways, if I were to impart any.

Brooke Roach

analyst
#61

Excellent. Well, thank you, Beth. Thank you, Jeff. And thank you to all of you in the audience for tuning in.

Beth Gerstein

executive
#62

Thanks, Brooke.

Chuenhong Kuo

executive
#63

Thank you.

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