Bristol-Myers Squibb Company (BMY) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 17, 2020

New York Stock Exchange US Health Care Pharmaceuticals conference_presentation 35 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

David Risinger

analyst
#1

Thank you. So good afternoon, everyone, and thank you very much for joining our session with Bristol-Myers. My name is Dave Risinger. I cover both major and specialty pharmaceuticals at Morgan Stanley. Before we get started, I need to refer you to a disclaimer. Please note that this webcast is for Morgan Stanley's clients and appropriate Morgan Stanley employees only. It's not for members of the press. If you're a member the press, please disconnect and reach out separately. For important disclosures, please see www.morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. And if you have any questions, please reach out to your Morgan Stanley sales representative. So I wanted to welcome Giovanni Caforio, who is the CEO and Chairman of Bristol-Myers. He became CEO in 2015, originally joined Bristol in 2000 as a VP and General Manager. He took on positions of increasing responsibility, eventually becoming Chief Commercial Officer in 2013 and Chief Operating Officer in 2014. Prior to Bristol, Giovanni spent 12 years with Abbott in a number of leadership positions, and he earned his M.D. degree from the University of Rome. Let me pass it to you, Giovanni, to offer some prepared comments, and then we'll go into the dialogue.

Giovanni Caforio

executive
#2

Thank you, Dave, and good morning, and good afternoon, everyone. Dave, thanks for the opportunity to discuss our business. This, as you know, is a very important year for Bristol-Myers Squibb. It's the first year after the acquisition of Celgene as a new company. And I'm very pleased with how the performance of the business is during the first half. First of all, the in-line performance of our business has been very strong in the first 6 months. Additionally, I would say that the positive outcome of 2 important events: first, the Eliquis patent trial; and second, the settlement with Dr. Reddy on Revlimid that we announced this morning, they're important events. They're very much aligned with our assumptions and expectations, and they confirm our perspective with respect to the outlook of our in-line business. We have a number of new launches that are off to a very good start. I'm sure we'll speak about Opdivo and Yervoy in first-line lung cancer, REBLOZYL in MDS and ZEPOSIA in multiple sclerosis. I'm really pleased with the early indicators from the launches. We also have a very rich late-stage pipeline, and I would just like to point to a couple of areas. First one is immuno-oncology, with 3 positive studies for Opdivo: study 9ER in first-line renal; study 577, which is an important trial in the adjuvant setting for esophageal cancer; and 649, first-line gastric. These are 3 important positive outcomes for our immuno-oncology franchise, and all of them will be presented actually this week at ESCO -- at ESMO. We also had an important positive study for ZEPOSIA in ulcerative colitis, which will be presented later this year, and it gives us an additional opportunity to think about ZEPOSIA playing an important role in inflammatory bowel disease. And finally, we have achieved proof-of-concept for psoriatic arthritis for our TYK2 program, confirming really good efficacy and a strong safety profile. And as you know, we look forward to seeing the results of the Phase III program in psoriasis later this year. So a lot happening on the pipeline side and many progresses that we've made during the first half. I'm also really pleased with our integration. It's proceeding, it's going extremely well. And importantly, we're very much on track with synergies. As you will remember, we committed to $2.5 billion in synergies over 3 years, with about 1/3 coming in 2020, and we're tracking very well with respect to our plans. And finally, I would say, the company is in a really strong financial position with a lot of flexibility from a financial perspective. Our capital allocation strategy remains balanced, and we continue to see business development a very important priority for us as we're interested in opportunities that strengthen our pipeline overall, broaden the portfolio and strengthen the outlook of the business in the second half of the decade. So I'll stop there. And I'm sure that we'll cover many of these topics in more detail during the Q&A. I look forward to the Q&A. Thank you, Dave.

David Risinger

analyst
#3

Great. Well, that's a great kickoff, Giovanni. I would like to start with immuno-oncology, given some of the recent positive readouts and the improving prospects for your immuno-oncology franchise. So could you please frame your expectations for Opdivo and Yervoy growth prospects and also provide an update on Opdivo + Yervoy market share in first-line lung?

Giovanni Caforio

executive
#4

Sure. Thank you, Dave. So first of all, going back to my comments at the beginning, I think we've seen a combination of continued strong competitive performance in all of the indications where we compete in the first half across the globe. And we've seen a number of positive readouts from important clinical trials. And so let me just start by saying that we continue to see Opdivo returning to annual sales growth next year. And we think about our immuno-oncology franchise very much as a growth franchise. Now going into a little more detail. So when you look at our business today, the second-line lung market is -- we see that stabilizing and we've maintained a really competitive position in that market. And so we see that as a foundation for the business. Now with respect to the launches, I am really pleased with what is happening with the launch in first-line lung. As you know, we have approval for 2 indications, Opdivo and Yervoy in first-line lung in PD-L1 positive patients based on study 227 and a broader label based on 9LA with Opdivo, Yervoy and chemotherapy. The initial signs from the launch are very positive. It's going as well or probably better than we had anticipated. Our share right now is in the mid-single digit. And physicians are really valuing the deep responses, the long responses that we've seen in the trial and their experience, including other tumors where they see the long-term durable responses of dual immunotherapy. So, so far, I would say, the launch in first-line lung is going really well. When you think about future drivers of growth, I think the other important study is study 9ER, which reinforces our position in renal. As you know, we have one of the leading agents -- regimens in first-line renal with Opdivo and Yervoy because of study 214. Incidentally, I'll remind you that we are going to be presenting the 4-year data at ESMO, and that data confirms the long-term durable impact of the regimen in survival. So we start from a position of strength in first-line renal, but as we present the results of study 9ER, which was the combination of Opdivo and CABO in first-line renal, we think that the efficacy and safety profile of that regimen position, it is a best-in-class immuno-oncology plus TKI regimen, and we definitely think that it will provide an opportunity for growth. And then, as I said earlier, first-line gastric and adjuvant esophageal are 2 other important opportunities for growth in the short term. So Opdivo is going to return to growth next year. And then when you look at the longer term, we have a very broad program in the adjuvant setting and a number of important studies on the metastatic side, and all of those will begin to read out later this year and into next year. And so I look forward to seeing those results, and I have an expectation that we will continue to strengthen the outlook for Opdivo and Yervoy.

David Risinger

analyst
#5

Excellent. And given that you recently launched, I believe, nationwide TV advertising for Opdivo + Yervoy in first-line lung, you're obviously hoping for much more market share than you've just achieved in a few months. Could you talk about the potential for market share gains?

Giovanni Caforio

executive
#6

Yes, Dave. You're right. We did start DTC advertising. We think it's really important to educate patients on the opportunity that exists with a new treatment approach in first-line lung cancer, particularly because we hear physician enthusiasm about the opportunity to offer an I-O combination regimen. As I mentioned earlier, the possibility for deep and durable responses is considered to be really important. And second, for some patients, the option of having a chemotherapy-free regimen is really important. We are seeing good uptake across histologies and across PD-L1 expression status. And so that makes us confident that the launch is off to a great start. We are in the mid-single digit in terms of market share right now, with good momentum with the launch. We're executing really well, although in a virtual environment with a number of really meaningful interactions with top prescribers. As a reminder, there is a relatively significant overlap between prescribers in lung cancer and prescribers in melanoma and renal cancer. And those prescribers already have very positive experiences and a lot of experience with Opdivo in combination with Yervoy. So I'm not going to give you sort of a forecast of future share. But what I can tell you is that I'm pleased with what I see. I know we're going to have a meaningful role to play in first-line cancer, and the launch is off to a really good start.

David Risinger

analyst
#7

Excellent. So then turning to adjuvant opportunities. You had touched on that. Could you frame Opdivo's opportunities in adjuvant indications and what the most important trial readouts to watch are in the near term?

Giovanni Caforio

executive
#8

Sure. Absolutely. I think, Dave, first of all, adjuvant, in our mind, is clearly important as we think about the growth of the segment of immuno-oncology in general. We feel very strongly that the ability to reach patients early has -- provides a real opportunity to make a meaningful impact on the disease. And the reason why we say that is because that's really what we have seen in melanoma when, with the approval of Yervoy first and then Opdivo, we've established a leading regimen in adjuvant melanoma. And we've also seen a significant increase in treatment rates versus the historical figures in melanoma. So that's the experience we have. Now as you know, we just had a second tumor, the adjuvant esophageal cancer setting, where we had another positive and very meaningful result. And so we have a second opportunity there. But then I think when you look at the future, there are 3 areas that I want to be highlighting. The first one is bladder cancer, where we have a study in the adjuvant setting in muscle-invasive bladder cancer, which is going to be reading out later this year or potentially next year. We have an ongoing trial in melanoma, study 915, which also should read out towards the end of this year, beginning of next year. There is an important opportunity in renal with a study that will read out a little bit later. And then, interestingly, we have a very broad approach to lung cancer, where we have a very differentiated program with 4 clinical trials. One of those trials is in the neoadjuvant setting, where we've already seen some promising early data in the recent past. And there, we have an opportunity, depending on the data, to potentially see pathologic complete response data this year, and that obviously would be a really important data set to see. Now going into 2022 and beyond, there are a number of other early-stage trials that will read out later on. So all in all, when you think about it, it's a very broad program which takes a differentiated approach in many diseases, and it builds on the strong foundation that we already have in melanoma and now esophageal.

David Risinger

analyst
#9

Very good. So to follow up on what you mentioned on the lung trial with the pathological complete response data later this year, if the data is highly compelling, is it reasonable to assume that you can file and garner approval on that data in both the U.S. and ex-U.S.?

Giovanni Caforio

executive
#10

Dave, I think what I would say is that pathologic complete response is an important end point. It is not a traditional regulatory end point. So a lot will depend on the data and the strength of the data. What I can tell you is the unmet medical need in that space is very high. So if the end point is positive and we have an opportunity, we definitely will have a discussion with regulatory authorities.

David Risinger

analyst
#11

And I would assume that the bar would be lower in the U.S. than ex-U.S., is that right?

Giovanni Caforio

executive
#12

I think it's difficult to speculate on the perspective of regulatory authorities. I think you are right in assessing the level of flexibility we've seen from the FDA in terms of looking at meaningful data sets in areas of high unmet medical need. I think that's happened more often than internationally. So I think that's a fair -- that's -- historically, that would have been a fair assessment, I think.

David Risinger

analyst
#13

Okay. Very good. So then we have a limited amount of time. So I wanted to ask one more question on oncology before pivoting. So in light of today's Revlimid settlement with Dr. Reddy's, how would you characterize the expected magnitude of branded sales erosion in 2022 for the company and then the erosion curve beyond 2022?

Giovanni Caforio

executive
#14

Yes. Thanks, Dave. What I would say is, I start my answer by saying it's very much aligned with our expectations since we announced the acquisition of Celgene. And then going into more detail, specifically with respect to -- I'll address it from 2 different points of view. So first of all, as I said earlier, the underlying performance of the business is very strong, I would say as strong or stronger, in some cases, that we had anticipated driven by really good execution from our teams and some of the drivers that we've discussed in the last few minutes. Now specifically with respect to the Revlimid developments, I think if you step back and think about the events that have occurred since we announced the acquisition of Celgene, there were 2 positive outcomes from PTO, USPTO reviews that were positive, and those reviews were not instituted. We were able, last year, to settle with Alvogen. Today, we have announcement -- we've announced a settlement with Dr. Reddy, which also is very much consistent with the expectations that we had. And so overall, what I would say is that with respect to generic entries of Revlimid, beginning in -- sometime in 2022, we will see the beginning of the phased entry of some generics. We do expect those volumes to increase again in line with our expectations, between 2022 and 2025, and then see full generic entries in 2026. So that allows us to confirm that our assumptions so far were correct and that the loss of exclusivity for -- the loss of exclusivity for Revlimid will be, as we've said all along, sort of more of a slope than a cliff. Now specifically with Dr. Reddy, the settlement allows us to sell -- allows them to sell certain volume-limited amounts of generic lenalidomide in the U.S. beginning sometime after March '22 and then as I said earlier, the full generic entry beginning at the end of January of 2026. So it's a similar structure to prior agreements we had with Natco and Alvogen. Some of the details are confidential, and we're not going to be disclosing the terms, but just to frame this even in more detail, remember that Natco was the first generic filer and the first party to settle several years ahead of others. So I think it's safe to assume that Natco would have sought to sort of protect that position through the terms of the settlement. And as I -- and I mentioned earlier, the terms of our agreement with Dr. Reddy are confidential, but they're very much aligned with what our expectations had been.

David Risinger

analyst
#15

Great. So let's pivot now. I wanted to turn to ZEPOSIA. So congrats on that UC data. Could you highlight the differentiated profile and the sales opportunity, as you see it, in ulcerative colitis?

Giovanni Caforio

executive
#16

Yes. First of all, let me say, we're really excited about the label of ZEPOSIA in multiple sclerosis. When you look at the data and in particular how the differentiated safety profile of ZEPOSIA is represented in the label, I think it's a really differentiated best-in-class profile, which I know will prove to be extremely important in multiple sclerosis, but will also be critical as we think about life cycle management opportunities. So we're really pleased that the Phase III ulcerative colitis study was positive. The data is clinically meaningful, and it will be presented, hopefully, by the end of this year. So thinking about what that means for ulcerative colitis, this is an area where there is a high unmet medical need. So if you think about it, there's roughly 2 million patients in the U.S. and Europe with moderate to severe UC. And right now, when you look at the treatment options that those patients are, biologics are injectable, they carry significant risks of malignancies. JAKs are oral, but they have safety concerns and black box warnings. So we think that when you think about an oral agent with a positive safety profile, there is a real opportunity to establish a position pre-biologics and potentially post-biologics and in fact, increased treatment rates as well. So I see that as a meaningful opportunity. The data, as I said, is statistically significant and very -- also very clinically meaningful. We're seeing consistent results across all of the secondary end points, including endoscopic and histologic improvements. And obviously, as you know, beyond ulcerative colitis, we have an opportunity because we have a Phase II study -- sorry, a Phase III study currently ongoing in Crohn's Disease. So there is a potential to expand the presence in IBD beyond UC, but we look forward to showing the UC data and potentially launching another important indication for ZEPOSIA.

David Risinger

analyst
#17

That's very helpful. And obviously, you saw encouraging earlier data in Crohn's. Could you speak to that and the potential you see in Crohn's and your level of confidence that the product could also have compelling efficacy in Crohn's, which is a tough disease to treat?

Giovanni Caforio

executive
#18

Yes. I think that what I would say is that UC is the second autoimmune disease where ZEPOSIA -- after MS, where ZEPOSIA demonstrates a really meaningful profile. You are right that we had early Phase II data, which were promising in Crohn's. The study is currently enrolling. And as always, I think it's important to see the data before we speak about the size of the opportunity or the opportunity in more detail. But obviously, an important clinical result in one disease within ulcerative -- sorry inflammatory bowel disease makes us feel maybe a little bit better about the opportunity in Crohn's Disease as well. It is a difficult-to-treat disease, as you said, but it's a disease where there is a very high unmet medical need. So we look forward to seeing the data. I think it's important to have Phase III data in hand. That's why we're doing the study. But if you think about ZEPOSIA, I think it's looking like a really meaningful franchise for us. And as I mentioned earlier, the start in MS is positive, very encouraging. The UC data is strong. And the Crohn's Phase III data readout is the next step of, I think, a really good life cycle management set of opportunities.

David Risinger

analyst
#19

And that Phase III should read out in 2022? Is that correct?

Giovanni Caforio

executive
#20

I believe so, yes. It's still, let me just say, still enrolling. And so, to some extent, as you know, there is always uncertainty related to time lines and the speed at which that occurs, particularly in the current context with COVID, but the study is actively enrolling as we speak.

David Risinger

analyst
#21

Got it. Okay. So that just -- since you mentioned sort of the uncertain COVID environment, why don't I just pivot to that quickly with a question before then returning to your TYK2. So the FDA seems to be focusing most of its attention on COVID vaccines and therapeutics. Is there any indication from the FDA that it will be able to inspect the 2 liso-cel facilities in coming weeks?

Giovanni Caforio

executive
#22

Yes. Dave, thank you for the question. So this is obviously a very important filing for us. And as you know, we made a number of comments in our quarterly disclosures and at a meeting last week. I would say, the overall process with the FDA is going well. At the same time, as we mentioned last week, the FDA has informed us that they will want to inspect -- they will need to inspect both of our plants during the review process. And when we presented last week, those inspections had clearly not yet occurred. So obviously, there is COVID and the complexity of travel during this time. And I would say that as a main concern somewhat increases the risk to the process. I don't think there's much I can add at this point. I can tell you we're working very actively with the FDA to keep the review and the inspection process moving because we want to get the product to patients as soon as possible. And we've updated the market last week, and there's nothing I can add at this point.

David Risinger

analyst
#23

Okay. Pivoting back to TYK2. So it should be a transformational asset for Bristol. Could you remind us about the first Phase III trial that is going to be reading out soon, key considerations, and then discuss the broader dermatology development program for it?

Giovanni Caforio

executive
#24

Sure. I think that this is one of the most interesting and exciting assets we have in our pipeline. We're very excited about this because the TYK2 pathway clearly is a very selective and important pathway, and we believe that we've developed a really selective molecule to address that opportunity and that pathway. Let me just go back and remind you what we demonstrated in Phase II in psoriasis, which was biologic-like efficacy, roughly double of what we see with other oral agents. And we also saw a safety profile that looked very favorable, with no sign of some of the serious adverse events that are more typically associated with the JAK class. So as a result of that, we initiated the 2 Phase III studies in psoriasis. The first of those studies, I expect to read in -- at the end of this year or beginning of next year, so we're getting very close, and the second Phase III trial shortly thereafter. And we're very excited about this program, and we look forward to looking at the data. We also saw some additional Phase II data in-house this week, which was in psoriatic arthritis, and that demonstrated a proof-of-concept in a second disease, which made us comfortable to begin to design and implement a Phase III program there. And I think, importantly, we saw a similar perspective and a similar profile from a safety perspective. So we feel good about the program. Obviously, we need to see the results of the Phase III studies in psoriasis from the next milestone perspective. You are right that we think there is an opportunity to go beyond psoriasis, potentially addressing a number of autoimmune diseases. And the trials we have ongoing right now, our Phase II studies in ulcerative colitis, Crohn's Disease and lupus, and all of those studies are enrolling. And we're going to be looking at the results beginning in 2021. So there is an opportunity to move beyond psoriasis, and this is another asset which could provide us with an opportunity to establish a meaningful presence in inflammatory bowel disease, in addition to psoriatic arthritis and lupus.

David Risinger

analyst
#25

Great. So why don't we just wrap up. We are pretty much out of time. But I did want to wrap up with a question on Washington, given your tremendous experience and perspective on the industry. What are key points that you would like to convey, and how are you suggesting Washington address its drug pricing concerns differently than the Trump administration has articulated?

Giovanni Caforio

executive
#26

Yes. Dave, I think there is a real opportunity of working together between the pharmaceutical industry, the administration and Congress because there is need for reform. And the reforms we would point to are those that realign incentives in the system. And so, for example, rebate reform, extremely important to ensure that patients benefit from the rebates the industry is paying. Second, I would say really important to reduce patient costs, and so establishing out-of-pocket caps in Medicare as an example is a reform that is extremely important to protect seniors and patients from high cost in the catastrophic phase. I think the industry is very supportive of that and would be willing to work with the administration on that. So in general, I would say that there are many paths to reforms that address the issue, which is really patient costs more than drug prices driven by benefit design. And the industry is very much ready to work together with the administration on reforms that make a difference for patients. We don't think that solutions that are more political in nature, like delegating a decision on the pricing of innovative medicine to foreign governments, is the way to go. And quite frankly, we're concerned that the executive orders being considered today are just very distracting at a time in which the industry is working day and night very effectively to address the COVID pandemic. So I feel that our commitment to finding real solutions for patients has never been stronger. We have a number of proposals from a policy perspective that should be discussed. And as an industry, we look forward to doing that going forward. So let me just thank you for the opportunity to be together. As I said at the beginning, this is a really important year for Bristol-Myers Squibb. I'm really pleased with how the company is doing in the first half of this year. There is very strong momentum in the business and from an R&D perspective, and I look forward to continuing to update you as the rest of the year progresses.

David Risinger

analyst
#27

Excellent. Thank you very much. And hopefully, all of our distractions will diminish in the future from current peak and soon-to-be peaking levels. But we very much do appreciate your participation, Giovanni. And thank you again. And operator, please close out the call.

Giovanni Caforio

executive
#28

Thank you.

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