Brookfield India Real Estate Trust (BIRET) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 11, 2026

NSEI IN Real Estate Office REITs earnings 66 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the First Quarter of FY 2027 Earnings Call for Brookfield India Real Estate Trust. Brookfield India Real Estate Trust released its financial results for the quarter ended June 3, 2026. Brookfield India Real Estate Trust has placed the financial results, earnings presentation and the investor section on the website at www.brookfieldndiareit.in. Please note that the management may make certain remarks during this call -- during this conference call, that could be considered forward-looking statements. Actual result may differ from the statement and Brookfield India Real Estate Trust does not guarantee such outcome nor undertake any obligation to update them. Any financial guidance or pro forma information shared today represents management's estimate based on specific assumptions and has not been audited, reviewed or independently verified. We caution you against placing undue reliance on this information as there can be no assurance or achieving the results discussed. [Operator Instructions] On the call, we have the following question. Mr. Ankur Gupta, Non-Executive Director; Mr. Shashank Jain, CEO and Management Director; Mr. Rachit Kothari, Non-Executive Director; Mr. Saket Gupta, Head of Finance of Brookprop Management Services Private Limited; and Mr. Shailendra Sabhnani from Brookfield. I now hand the conference over to the management for the opening remarks. Thank you, and over to you, team.

Shashank Jain

executive
#2

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. This is Shashank Jain here. A very warm welcome to Brookfield India Real Estate Trust Quarter 1 for Fiscal '27 Earnings Call. Thank you to all our unitholders, analysts and participants for joining us today for this call. Let me begin with a brief update on the macroeconomic and office market environment. India's economy continues to demonstrate resilience despite a volatile global backdrop. India's deep talent pool, competitive cost, digital ecosystem and policy stability continues to enforce its position as a preferred destination for multinational companies and global capability centers. The India office market has carried its strong momentum into 2026. Industry data indicates that office absorption has reached a record 45-plus million square feet in the first half of calendar '26, which is an increase of approximately 10% year-on-year. GCC is accounted for roughly around 20 million square feet, which is roughly about 43% of total leasing. Green-certified buildings accounted for almost 73% of the leasing activity during the quarter, implying that the demand is increasingly focused on high-quality, sustainable and institutionally managed campuses. This market backdrop is actually directly aligned with the positioning of Brookfield India REIT. As of June 30, 2026. Our portfolio comprises 32.6 million square feet across key gateway cities, with a committed occupancy of around 93% in place rent of INR 104 per square feet per month and a long-dated wheel of 6.7 years. Our pan-India presence, high-quality tenant roster, focus on sustainability and concentration in established office micro market positions us well to capture continued demand from GCC and other global occupiers. Let me now take you through our leasing and occupancy performance for the quarter. During the first quarter of fiscal '27, we completed 1.1 million square feet of gross leasing, comprising roughly about 700,000 square feet of new leasing and almost 400,000 square feet of renewals. The average rent on gross leasing was INR 100 per square feet per month, and the weighted average lease term was 9.8 years. The re-leasing spread achieved was about 14%. Leasing demand remained broad-based across product categories, spanning SEZ processing area and nonprocessing area and IT and commercial spaces. GCC occupiers for us accounted for almost 39% of gross leasing during the quarter, supported by expansion demand from existing tenants such as Honeywell and KPMG Global Services. Tech services tenants also demonstrated strong commitment to our portfolio, contributing 63% of our quarterly renewals with an healthy renewable tenure of approximately 11 years. Despite more than 1 million square feet of expiries during the quarter, we maintained portfolio committed occupancy of 93%, which is 4 percentage points higher year-on-year. We continue to proactively address few expiries. During the quarter, we secured an early renewal of approximately 565,000 square feet with Bharti Airtel at the Center, representing around 80% of campuses gross leasable area. The renewal was completed approximately 2 years ahead of expiry for a 9-year lease term and a 5-year lock-in on majority of the renewed area. Including the commitment secured previously, we now have derisked approximately 1.3 million square feet of our future [indiscernible] across the remaining 9 months of fiscal '27 as well as full year fiscal '28. This proactive approach provides greater cash flow visibility, reinforces the strength of our tenant relationships and also reflects the tenant stickiness in the portfolio. Our expiry profile also remains well staggered, with only 8% of gross rentals due for expiry during the remaining 9 months of financial year '27 and approximately 33% cumulatively through up to financial year '30. Let me also then talk about the acquisition that we announced. During the quarter, we signed a binding agreement to acquire 264,000 square feet front office property, comprising 3 contiguous floors in Godrej BKC, a landmark grade A building located in the central business district of Mumbai. The proposed acquisition is being undertaken in a 50-50 partnership with NCW prime offices on a part of Nuvama Group. The asset is leased to front-office blue-chip tenants with high occupancy and an almost 6.9 years [indiscernible] and 82% of lease area under lock-in. The acquisition price is INR 1,700 crores on a 100% basis, implying a 4% discount to GAV and a cap rate of 7.4% basis FY '28 estimates and almost 8.1% cap rate basis FY '30 estimates. Now in terms of our further growth opportunity, we have a robust sponsor group pipeline, a couple of high-quality assets approaching stabilization in the sponsor group portfolio are Waterstone campus, a 9-acre mixed-use campus in Mumbai's airport business district. It has 1.4 million square feet GLA of office space. 48 ultra-premium service residences and a 3-acre exclusive members-only club. The second one is in Pune, Bluegrass Business Park at 2 million square feet in Pune with Tower 1, which is fully leased and Tower 2, which is under construction and 50% pre-leased. In addition to inorganic opportunity, the portfolio has meaningfully embedded organic growth potential of approximately 15%, which excludes contracted rent road and mark-to-market gains. Moving on, on our focus on ESG and sustainability. Sustainability remains deeply embedded in our operating philosophy, very pleased to share that during quarter Walmart New Delhi achieved the IGBC Green existing building platinum rating. Our campuses at N1 and N2 received edge advanced certification and Walmart Gurgaon and Pavilion Mark received edge certification from International Finance Corporation. With that, I'll hand it over to Saket to take you through the financial performance for the quarter. Saket?

Saket Mehta

executive
#3

Thank you, Shashan, and good morning, everyone. Let me now take you through the financial highlights for Q1 '27. Operating lease rentals for the quarter was INR 7.14 billion, representing growth of 56% year-on-year, supported by contribution from [indiscernible] and same-store growth across the portfolio. Net operating income was INR 7.57 billion, reflecting growth of 51.7% year-on-year. Same-store NOI increased by approximately 8%, driven primarily by fees of vacant area, mark-to-market gains and contractual rent escalations. For Q1 FY '27, we declared a distribution of 5.6%. Total distribution for the quarter stood INR 4.6 billion. Our balance fee remains robust and well positioned to support future growth in a disciplined manner. As of June 30 '26, our LTV, excluding shareholder estimates, stood at 25.9%. On a performer basis after the proposed [indiscernible] in BKC, we have a dry order of approximately INR 43 billion, and a 35% LTV threshold to support future growth opportunities. We continue to maintain [indiscernible] AAA stable credit rating from CRISIL and ICRA. Our average interest rate remained at 7.3%, supported by a long dated debt faculty profile and limited long term amortization. With that, I would now request the moderator to open the floor for questions.

Operator

operator
#4

[Operator Instructions] First question comes from the line of Karan Khanna with Ambit Capital.

Karan Khanna

analyst
#5

My first question to you, Shashank, give us to your first earnings call, I can see you're taking over a platform that has built significant scale, strong occupancy and a sizable development and acquisition pipeline. Giving a background across real estate, private equity and M&A, what are the 2 or 3 strategic priorities you want to put your [indiscernible] over the next 12 to 14 months. And in particular, do you see the next phase of BIRET's growth being driven more by organic portfolio optimization and development or by accelerating acquisitions and expanding the platform.

Shashank Jain

executive
#6

Thank you Karan, and thank you for asking this question. It's a privilege and honor for me to be taking over this position, a platform that we are also proud of for institutionally managed -- 100% institutionally managed platform. I think we are at a point of time which we are well poised for growth, and we have opportunities virtually across the portfolio. As I mentioned, we have a very robust response to pipeline that we would continue to look for and participate in the process as and when that comes up. We would also be open for looking at acquisitions outside the sponsor portfolio as and when there is an opportunity, we'll continue to remain a disciplined investor. As far as the existing portfolio is concerned, you're right, we are looking at optimizing our portfolio, both in terms of our tenants profiles, occupancy as well as any potential development opportunities within the within the portfolio that we have. So all in all, yes, we would be looking at a portfolio of growth from various potential available opportunities, both organically and inorganically.

Karan Khanna

analyst
#7

Sure. And then secondly, Shashank, if you look at GCCs, that remain a major structural driver for the office market but we accounted for 39% of Q1 leasing versus roughly 50% in Q4 and FY '26, while technology services accounted for 63% of the Q1 renewals. So from your conversation with occupiers, are you seeing the next leg of demand broadening meaningfully beyond traditional, technology and GCC users? And looking 3 to 5 years out, how are you thinking about AI-driven productivity gains affecting the quantum of office space companies ultimately need?

Shashank Jain

executive
#8

Yes. Good question, Karan. Thank you. So bases are conversations with our tenant partners and broader ecosystem in the industry, I think there are 2, 3 elements that's coming in. One, we continue to see influx and robust demand from GCC is coming in. Now there could be a few basis points here and there on a quarter-on-quarter basis. But the long-term story of India being a very attractive talent pool and hence attracting a lot of multinationals to set up. Their Capability centers remain intact, and we do want to continue to partner with them in their growth journey. That's one. As far as the broader tech services is concerned, as we mentioned, over 60% of renewables -- I mean, the tech services continue with their renewal. Bases our conversation, there are a couple of things, one, in the near to short term or midterm, we do not see AI impacting our clients or tenants decisions and occupancy as such. Like any other technology evolution, we expect all the companies to evolve themselves. And, in fact, use India as the AI talent hub increasingly. With that backdrop, we don't really see in the short to medium term, any immediate impact or significant impact of AI disrupting our growth plans or growth plans of our tenants in a material way.

Karan Khanna

analyst
#9

Sure. And then lastly, on the BKC acquisition, the roughly direct share at 58% is about INR 8.5 billion. So what is the expected DPU accretion for BIRET owing to the acquisition of the 3 floors at Godrej BKC?

Shashank Jain

executive
#10

For the GBKC acquisition, our assessment is it's going to be a DPU-accretive acquisition. The DPU yield is expected to be about 7.1%, which is healthier than that at our portfolio level. So going forward in the, let's say, next 12 months or next full year, as we said, we see this to be an overall DPU-accretive transaction or acquisition for us.

Operator

operator
#11

Next question comes from the line of Pritesh Sheth with Axis Capital.

Pritesh Sheth

analyst
#12

A few questions from my side. Firstly, on the cash balance that we have, I know some of this could be utilized to for the BKC acquisition. But how are we going to utilize the balance? Any plans for debt repayment? Or you would still hold on to it considering that there are a couple of sponsor acquisition opportunities which are coming due. So what's your strategy on that?

Shashank Jain

executive
#13

So we will continue to evaluate the optimal use of cash that we have and it's going to be a combination of any potential short-term strategy of debt repayment across various assets that we are in the process of evaluating. And also at the same time, as and when we get clarity on the time line that the sponsors would look at in terms of integrating -- so we'll sort of balance out the utilization of cash based on these 2 strategies.

Pritesh Sheth

analyst
#14

Sure. So like if you can guide us like near term, how should we think about it? Because I mean, holding cash would, obviously, not help our DPU growth in that sense. So paying off debt would enhance the yield potential. So how should we look at that?

Shashank Jain

executive
#15

So yes, definitely, we would be looking at pairing down some debt in the near term. We are, as I mentioned, in the process of evaluating which line of credit should we look at across various [indiscernible] as I said, that would also depend on some guidance and clarification that we get from sponsor group on the time line when they expect to launch the process for some of the sponsored assets that we've mentioned. Pending that, as I said, we are in the process of evaluating, on a short-term basis, which line of credit to be sort of prepaid as we speak.

Saket Mehta

executive
#16

I'll just come in here. Good morning, everybody. From a sponsor side, there's a very large portfolio of the highest quality assets in the country that we are -- that we have while in the near term, yield or yield protection or yield enhancement can happen with a decrease or a slight decrease in debt levels. I would say that these opportunities in India on a total return basis are in the mid-to-high teens, just like the GBKC acquisition that we just announced. On a total return basis, given our LTV is 25% or thereabout, there is significant headroom to increase the same portfolio while keeping leverage levels below 35% on a portfolio basis, which has been a serious strategy that we like to be 1/3, 2/3 on debt to equity basis. And the path that we demonstrated an ability to raise capital on the market for major transactions. I would say that the guidance from our side is growth than just debt levels being lower from this point onwards. Two transactions were highlighted besides the GBKC transaction, the one that we are just completing, the lease up in Andheri and Andheri development as well as a CBD asset that we've developed in pulling and continue to stabilize. Again, those are 2 examples. There are several assets of that nature. And as Shashank mentioned, there are also amazing opportunities across non-sponsor assets as well. So I would say that the guidance I can provide from our perspective is is total return, which includes NAV enhancement, distribution growth as well as feel enhancement.

Operator

operator
#17

Our next question comes from the line of Yashas Gilganchi with BOB Capital Markets Limited.

Yashas Gilganchi

analyst
#18

When do you expect to conclude the acquisition of the GBKC asset and since cap rates have been calculated on the NOI of FY '28, '29, is it fair to assume that the rent from the new property are likely to start flowing in sometime in FY '28?

Shashank Jain

executive
#19

Yes. So we are looking at closing the transaction somewhere by the end of next month. As we mentioned, it's a significantly leased asset, and we expect by closing it to be 100% leased up. And you're right, the the rent should start on a 100% basis in the next fiscal year.

Yashas Gilganchi

analyst
#20

Got it. Now with 90% of your outstanding debt referencing floating rates and given the volatile macro environment, or your thoughts on how interest expenses are likely to evolve over the near future? And also, are you considering any measure to control further volatility in interest expense?

Saket Mehta

executive
#21

Yes. So look, our debt is almost 90% of the debt is floating, but bulk office is linked to reported, right? And any volatility in reports that we pause, I would say, any movement in the interest expenses. In fact, if you think about our interest rate ranges anywhere between sub-7 rates to mid-7 rates today, averaging about 7.3%. So we don't expect that there will be out of turn volatility in these rates under the central bank books the repo. But at the same time, we continue to evaluate fixed rate structure, we impacted a bond not too long back. And the idea would be, as we think of the next phase of growth and next acquisition, and we relevered the REIT, fixed rate bonds will continue to be a big source of consideration for us to finance the future growth from this point onwards.

Yashas Gilganchi

analyst
#22

Got it. That's fair. And just lastly, releasing spreads have been trending downwards actually since 1Q '26, given as larger volume of space will be used, what is happening? And how do you think spreads are likely to trend over the long term?

Shashank Jain

executive
#23

If you see our history, generally, the releasing spreads that we have managed to achieve the last 3 fiscal have been the support of anywhere between 15% to 20%. And on an average, about 10% of our area churn every year, about 50%, 60% obviously managed to renew 30%, 40% churns out and we get new tenants in. I think it will look to be very similar as we go along. So we will continue to have that 15% to 20% [indiscernible] 10% of area, so additional percentage point or 2 percentage points of growth every year on a steady-state basis. So we don't expect that the forward projection for this will be any different than what we have seen in the last few years.

Operator

operator
#24

Our next question comes from the line of Kunal with Bank of America.

Kunal Tayal

analyst
#25

A couple of questions from my side. The first one given the 60% renewal you were highlighting has happened on the IT services side, do you see any difference in the commercial attractiveness of renewal deals with IT services in comparison with a GCC, wonder if there's a delta in terms of either the mark-to-market uplift you can get, the tenure that they signed for or maybe the expansion potential that the indicate?

Shashank Jain

executive
#26

So we continue to evaluate each transaction base is the micro market and our campuses. When it comes to GCC or tech services, I think the approach is no different. We approach it and equally all our clients approach it with the same commercial bent of mind considering various factors; their existing presence, concentration, potential to expand in the same campus or the same micro market and the trending rates in the micro market and the mark-to-market potential. I mean if you look at some of our large renewables that we've had like Accenture, et cetera, I think it's been a healthy commitment that we've got from them.

Kunal Tayal

analyst
#27

Understand. Specifically on MTM conversion, do you think that is there any bit of better or the overall approach you are highlighting takes care of it?

Shashank Jain

executive
#28

Kunal, just to give you an example, and we actually did cover in the last quarter, but maybe I'll just skew that to guide this conversation. One of the largest tech services companies actually took up expansion space with us in Noida, almost tripling their footprint, right? And on that -- and the way it came about was their own manpower planning with a decent 10-year term and a 5-year lock in but the rates on that, to answer your question very specifically, we managed to get a 25% mark-to-market. So I think the outcome is fairly market, even when you're talking to tech services in many of these takeups. Of course, renewals can be slightly different from new takeups. But again, the outcome that they're solving for is the market trend, just given vacancy, many of these markets is now single digit. -- certainly in the ones that we operate in. Anybody who wants to be present there has to pay the market rent, and that's the trend for the past 2 examples that we have.

Saket Mehta

executive
#29

Just to add on. In so many ways, you've seen a little bit of baking up of tech companies and putting out their messages even more clearly. Certainly, playing on the front foot as to what ages in the AI-based economy or whatever the promise of AI in terms of efficiency means for the company. So we expect that these companies will actually be a little bit more forward-thinking. In fact, the question 4 years ago used to be will IT companies continue to support rentals or does they have too much bargaining power, et cetera. I think that equilibrium is now reached where a significant majority of new leases are contained by a wide variety of companies. The other aspect is -- so one is that IT companies will be more nimble. They will have to scale up or they are scaling up in the delivery models, et cetera, which means higher-quality, talent, higher-quality basis as a result of that. And second, the line between service and delivery and headquarters is blurring. GCC is a perfect example. They again -- the global delivery centers, they are no longer outsourcing offices, et cetera. And as a result of all of that, you find that higher quality spaces, better quality landlords, better locations, better connectivity. Rentals will become rentals or whatever the implied renters are are going to be only one factor. Now again, we have the best quality portfolio, and that all augurs very, very well for our type of real estate [indiscernible].

Kunal Tayal

analyst
#30

Understood. Very clear. My second question, I got again, this is sort of going back to the 3 aspects of what you look at in terms of driving the return for you as you look to the the remaining gap out on the balance sheet. The question was more around, given that the overall market trends have moved up, interest rates have done what it is. How do you think your forward written expectations from M&A that you might have in the pipe, start to differ from what you have done in the last 2 to 3 years?

Saket Mehta

executive
#31

I would say that on the M&A side, as has been the trend, majority of M&As will be focused on built assets. In our experience, India as a supply probably now a demand-side problem, which means that we can continue to acquire high-quality assets. On a total return basis, these assets will continue to outperform the market, which means whether we showed 15% total return, and usually, if we buy the highest quality assets and manage very well, they outperformed. And beating the market cost of capital consistently with performance is what we have set out to do. I don't think that our current pipeline and our future projections should look very different. In fact, we've outperformed virtually in every acquisition that we've done in the past. And I think with the occupancy levels now in the '90s, those assets that we bought is will do even better. Kunal, if I can answer your question, I think if you are doing something good, then repeating that and doing it slightly better is the way to proceed.

Kunal Tayal

analyst
#32

Understood. Just maybe just one more once on that, do you set for yourself a minimum return hurdle in that sense?

Saket Mehta

executive
#33

Absolutely do. Many of return is beating our cost of capital, which you had that for us, to be honest, also the value [indiscernible] and in all the acquisitions, we've tried to better that in terms of it being better than the cost of capital and on a return basis, be accretive on an NAV basis as well as on a [indiscernible] basis. So I think there are very people that try to follow and guide. As I said, it's not a complicated business. We're not sending atoms here. So if you can do the basic rights and repeat and do it slightly better every year, we'll do very, very well overall.

Operator

operator
#34

Our next question comes from the line of Nilesh Doshi with Prospero Tree AMC.

Nilesh Doshi Mahendra

analyst
#35

Sir, distribution is one of the criteria to remain invested in any REIT, so I would like to know at what rate our distribution is likely to increase in the coming years as our lease agreements mostly contained a 5% increment every year or 15% at the end of the 3 years? And in addition to that, all new lease agreements are generally executed at a higher rate than the expiring rate. And every year, we are increasing the economy occupancy. So I think our distribution must be increased by more than 5%. Is it my correct understanding, please, your view?

Shashank Jain

executive
#36

As we have given in our guidance, we are looking at -- to be specific, a 15% embedded growth in our DPU from the current portfolio that we have as and when it stabilizes, and we are at about 93% occupancy. We've given a guidance of 96%, 97%. For some of the assets that we have or we have acquired, once they are fully leased and the lease up happens, we are looking at a 15% growth. So give and take, our senses, it will take about 2 years on an as-is basis. So to answer your question, yes, that there will be a more than 5% increase.

Nilesh Doshi Mahendra

analyst
#37

Because of -- sorry.

Saket Mehta

executive
#38

Same quarter last year, we distributed INR 5.20, we are distributing INR 5.60 now. That's a 7% growth over the same quarter last 12 months, right? So that should be the trend. I mean, if the income grows at 5% to 6%, you should be able to drive DPU by 7% to 8% in addition to the yield.

Parvez Qazi

analyst
#39

Because when you say the total return is around 14% to 15%, and our current yield there is around 6%. So 9% by the capital allocation. Is it like that?

Saket Mehta

executive
#40

When we say 15% to 16%, that's for the asset level return under the REIT, what reflects in the stock price as a function of the market as well and the larger interest rate regime. But again, broadly speaking, if a product starts at 6.5% to 7% yield, right, on an equity basis and has 5% to 6% top line growth with leverage that should translate to about 7% to 8% bottom line growth. So if you add 7% to 8% to a 7% yield, you would emerge at a 14% to 15% return. I don't know if that answers the question.

Nilesh Doshi Mahendra

analyst
#41

Yes, mostly. And sir, last question, what is the economic occupancy because you mentioned that 93% is the committed occupancy, but there is a difference between the committed and rent generating occupancy. So what is our actual rent generating occupancy?

Shashank Jain

executive
#42

So typically, you will see a delta of 3% to 4%. Our rent generating occupancy should be about 89% to 90%.

Nilesh Doshi Mahendra

analyst
#43

And we are at 88%, 89%.

Shashank Jain

executive
#44

We are at 89%, that's why I said our rating is about 89%, 90%.

Operator

operator
#45

Next question comes from the line of [indiscernible] with New Wealth.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#46

2 questions from my side. Number one, what's the dividend mix in the entire distribution going ahead? And amongst the dividend, what would be the rough split of dividend coming from old and new regime? And what would be the impact considering the recent changes that we are anticipating? And the second is, in general, I've seen that Brookfield is doing a JV kind of an investment [indiscernible] the earlier age portfolio or the current investment. So why is it so that we are going for JV kind of investment, whereas other REITs are in general, trying to acquire the entire asset. I wanted to know the thought process?

Shashank Jain

executive
#47

Your question is 3 parts. Let me take all the parts one by one. So our current dividend distribution percentage is about 17% out of the total DPU. With some of the corporate actions we are looking at a few SPV levels and relooking at the capital structure on an overall basis, we expect that to increase to I would say, early 20s. And then the second part of your question is the impact of tax legislations around some of the tax benefits that have come in. Again, it has got 2, 3 elements, which we are currently in the process of working out the exact impact. One is obviously the historical MAT credit write-backs. The other is the tax rate change. As you know, we were in the old regime, ranging from 29% to 34%, 35%, which will -- in the new regime will be 28% plus. And the third component of that is no MAT liability going forward. So we are -- as we speak, we are in the process of working out the exact impact which will come back to the broader group in due course once we've sort of worked out the math around it. And the third element you asked for, a joint venture approach there. As REIT as buyer of these assets, I can tell you, we participated in a formal process that the sellers embarked upon, for example, for GBKC, we were amongst the top shortlisted bidders. And so was Nuvama, who we decided to partner with it, therefore, because we were ballpark in the same rate. That also demonstrates our willingness and our ability to partner with the broader ecosystem in the market, whether it's Nuvama whether it's other such players, we do believe in benefits of strategic relationships with with wealth channels and coverage channels like Nuvama. And we will continue to be a disciplined investors where we can maximize the returns for our investors.

Saket Mehta

executive
#48

[indiscernible], I'll just add that by the virtue of the fact that we have traditionally went up the larger real estate and larger campuses, most of them are at the scale of anywhere between 2.5 million to 4 million square feet, which kind of means that our revenue in each of these SPVs is more than INR 200 crores. So the old cash setting versus tax regime has an 8 percentage point savings on the tax itself, which is a big, big flow through straight up to number one, to the direct savings to the SPV that will distribute, but also it will improve the dividends and the PAT as a result of that. So overall, I think it's going to be a positive. We will quantify at our end, understand this in a little bit more detail and maybe next quarter, you'll have a full level of disclosure, a full disclosure from us around what it means for [indiscernible] in addition to the point that Shashank mentioned on to MAT liability going forward.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#49

Got it, sir. Sir, just a follow-up on this. If, let's say, I want to break up the total entire JV of the BIRET in to old and new tax regime. So how much would this breakup be roughly?

Shashank Jain

executive
#50

Everything today is old tax regime. Everything will move into the new tax regime is the mathematic mix.

Operator

operator
#51

Our next question comes from the line of Anuj Upadhyay Investec Capital Services India Private Limited..

Anuj Upadhyay

analyst
#52

Just to check on the occupancy side. Anyway, our portfolio stands at a very strong 93%. Just to get a sense how exactly we plan to move from here, especially on the G1 and G2 portfolio, where we still have a scope of scaling up the occupancy. And considering the fact that you even have close to around close to 2.5 to 3 lakh of lease area set for expire over the next 1 or 2 years. So how things are placed over there?

Shashank Jain

executive
#53

Yes. Before I answer this specific question, I do want to clarify on the previous question that while we are talking about the change in tax regime and how does it benefit us, just a caveat that we -- as we understand, it has not yet been legislated. It's going through the process, the legislation for various approvals. So I just wanted to call that out, the subject to the final rules that are approved and come up is where that impact by us would be understood and quantified. So just wanted to call that out so that there's no confusion. Now coming to your specific question, yes, there are a couple of assets, specifically given in G2, which relatively are slightly lower in occupancy. We are -- if you see directionally how G1 has scaled up. We have crossed 90% plus. It's almost at about 91% occupancy. I think we are benefiting for from two elements. One, there aren't such wide campus format assets in the micro market, which are easily available, and hence, we've continued to attract our customers and tenants there. And we continue to see a fair bit of expansion requests coming in from our existing tenants in both these parks. So we do plan to leverage that and ensure that the occupancies inches up closer to the portfolio averages over the next 3, 4 quarters, and that should help us bring in the average occupancies further up.

Anuj Upadhyay

analyst
#54

So this would largely be driven from the existing player within the same premise or we have some new players also coming in like we have this global home in the current quarter that is Q1, so are we seeing traction from other places as well?

Shashank Jain

executive
#55

So while a significant portion of demand is getting generated, as expansion strategies from our existing tenants, but we do have a fair bit of pipeline from new -- potentially new clients and new tenants. So while the larger tilt is towards the existing tenant looking for expansion, but the new tenant pipeline is also fairly healthy for us.

Saket Mehta

executive
#56

So I'll give you an example area, we signed up a large domestic automobile company who actually consolidated from 4 properties in to G2. That was about a 250,000 square feet requirement with some expansion option attached to it. We expect that going forward, similar demand can come from other quarters because as it stands, the asset sits in the 30 million square feet micro market, which means there's 10x work space outside the premises than it is inside. And there can be a lot of occupiers who can potentially to consolidate into benefits of having a single building, which is only an offer in an asset like us today.

Operator

operator
#57

Next question comes from the line of Pritesh Sheth with Axis Capital.

Pritesh Sheth

analyst
#58

Just a couple of follow-ups. Firstly, A couple of clarifications on the NDCF side. So this quarter, we had a sharp jump in distribution to [indiscernible] entities, so just wanted to get your reason on that. Is it something which would be a new normal or some one-off this quarter? And in terms of SPV cash utilization, I think last quarter, we mentioned that we do have INR 50 crores, INR 60 crores worth of cash, which is still tending to be utilized and will utilize, that amount that remains unchanged? Or is there some increase there? And would that be largely utilized this year? So yes, those 2 questions on the NDCF side.

Saket Mehta

executive
#59

So I think I'll take the second question first. Yes, last quarter, we talked about surplus cash, which was in the range of INR 55 crores, INR 60 crores. We did utilize some portion of it for this particular quarter. And the balance on left is about INR 35 crores to INR 40 crores. But I just wanted to mention that we do a new acquisition, then sometimes we get new line of surplus cash as well as opening balance. So -- this is a moving factor, which we have to consider as we do more acquisitions.

Shashank Jain

executive
#60

And on your first question, what's changed between the last quarter and this quarter is we have got a new partner with the 360 One, it's their share of distribution that is flipped in the line item that you're seeing. It's not that [indiscernible] has jumped a lot that there's one more partner getting the share of distribution from the REIT.

Pritesh Sheth

analyst
#61

Yes, yes, right. Okay. Perfect. And just on EcoWorld campus 3. Any update there in terms of are we going for refurbishment or redevelopment? Because I think August is when the payment lease. So just an update on that.

Shashank Jain

executive
#62

So as we speak, discussions are underway with the tenant for time lines on vacating the premises and basis that time line, we will also work out our plan of action for the building. And we will come back to the group once we have full clarity on it.

Operator

operator
#63

Our next question comes from the line of Garg Goyal with Kotak Securities.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#64

My question is more regarding the growth aspect. While we see a lot of inorganic growth happening in the lead through sponsored asset acquisitions. But for most of the other ranges, we see a large part of growth also coming in through development potential. In this REIT, as you all know, a large part of the development potential lies in the Kolkata assets. So what is the outlook on Kolkata as a micromarket with all the changes that have happened? And how's the rental as well as the overall market looking on that front? And do you plan to sort of start under construction -- sort of construct assets on those lines?

Shashank Jain

executive
#65

Yes. All right. So I'll take it in two parts. One, as you know, part of the development potential in Kolkata is our project called Baytown. I think that's about 0.6 million square feet. I think that should go live in the next couple of quarters, 2 to 3 quarters. We would soon be starting to market that particular project or asset in Kolkata, which is in the same promises or joining a piece of land. As far as the broader potential in Kolkata is concerned, we are closely watching the situation as it unfolds. There is a general optimism that the industry has shown us based on our various conversations. We do expect things to become clearer on ground in the next few quarters, but we are closely watching these sentiments as they unfold, and we'll -- basis that decide the next course of action.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#66

Understood. And just another question. In terms of the Godrej assets that you are acquiring, generally in Mumbai, the -- most of the agreements are signed for 5 years, I see the REIT in and around 6.9, what could be the rationale?

Saket Mehta

executive
#67

Many of the tenants who took up space actually went under the longer route and paid full stamp duty including some of the names State Bank, Brookfield and World Bank. So these tenants just given the nature of the fit-out they do, they, of course, want to be sticky. They don't want to reinvest and they sit out and generally like to secure a longer tenure. That's why in spaces like BKC, you would see more leases and licenses.

Operator

operator
#68

[Operator Instructions] Next question comes from the line of Dhiraj Dave with [indiscernible] Financial Services.

Dhiraj Dave

analyst
#69

So my question is basically if you look at [indiscernible] the risk which has been the case. So only this is the best of the time when you see anything, demand time there is no issue. People are [indiscernible] happening at higher quality billing at higher premium to market and that information also being shared. So in our case, can you let us know what has been the premium of our end-to-end [indiscernible]. I'm not just talking about end-to-end kind of thing, if there was any kind of premium which we got a company [indiscernible] last quarter or last year over? And

Saket Mehta

executive
#70

Is the question that are we getting mark-to-market spreads on our...

Dhiraj Dave

analyst
#71

Whether we are getting premium or mark-to-market. So let us say it [indiscernible] after market is 120, whether we are able to renew at 130, which is a INR 10 premium to the whole expense.

Shashank Jain

executive
#72

To be honest, like wherever you leave the market, I mean, there's no concept of premium to market the way we see it. In fact, what you can do is outperform your last target and then call it the new market rent. I don't think the market stays at 120 if you lease at 130. The moment to lead that 130, goes to 130. I think that's probably the right way to look at it. But I think more factually, we have consistently achieved 15% to 20% uptick on expiry rents as we have renewed spaces over the course of the last year, including as recent as the last quarter. So we continue to -- we continue to clock that with, of course, a little bit of difference between the various markets. In Calcutta, we have seen rents go from 40% to almost now mid-60s over the course of the last 2 years. And we continue to hit that trend in many of our using conversations with the renewal conversations. In markets like Mumbai, we have seen 8% year-over-year growth, right? We may not have seen that much in Gurgaon, but Noida continues to be very close to inflation. So it's a mixed bag. But on an average, the beauty of having 32 million square feet is that it was like a diversified portfolio, and we continue to get like almost 15% to 20% spread on the overall average.

Dhiraj Dave

analyst
#73

So appreciate that is. So then the second part is that why we are not able to achieve the all-time high distribution, like I understand you have some kind of -- if you go up [indiscernible] listed, there was some kind of cash flow which was available. But it's now almost like 5 years since we listed, and we still not able to understand as a [indiscernible] kind of is talking about we did acquisition, the take kind of thing. And all these [indiscernible] are accretive. But still, I find a distribution was 6.5%, which was the highest which we have achieved and INR 5 to INR 6. So what should go right, when should we expect distribution increase. On growth exercise, I appreciate and we will get benefit. But I also want to see organic growth also why we are not able to get that growth that because I -- if I compare it with peers, I see a significant improvement in that -- are also acquiring and they are also be. So is it something because of market in which we are operating -- how do you explain that?

Ankur Gupta

executive
#74

Look, I would -- can I -- this is Ankur. I would say 2 things. A lot of research is published where we are doing peer comparison or they do peer comparison. So it's a little bit not our place to be comparing ourselves to peers because I would say that our distributions have increased all the...

Dhiraj Dave

analyst
#75

Sorry. If you look at your historical distribution, you have not reached our all-time high. That's not my simple question. [indiscernible] strong able to reach what we have given. And this time, I understand you have some kind of cash flow and you are not paying [indiscernible] cetera, that called. So as part I understand. But the point is that when we will see that distribution or we are looking all time. That's my [indiscernible] point.

Ankur Gupta

executive
#76

If you don't let me answer the question, then I think we can move to the next question. Sorry, can wemove to the next question.

Operator

operator
#77

Our next question comes from the line of Nilesh Doshi with Prospero Tree AMC.

Nilesh Doshi Mahendra

analyst
#78

Sir, do we have any property in a location where the local authority has permitted the higher FSI, so we can increase our eligible area by spending some money on a construction cost?

Ankur Gupta

executive
#79

It's a fair question. Look, I say SAR and [indiscernible] in India are getting, I would say, more modern. Most markets are allowing more density slightly technical even when SAR is allowed because the coverage rules are such that we will not be able to consume them unless you break buildings, some buildings on a long-term basis. So we go through a portfolio optimization exercise every quarter, every year to ensure that we are able to financially achieve the best outcome in terms of creating more area or utilizing the existing area better. But that's a fair question. And I think our large states ultimately allow for those levels of opportunities coming through to us. But again, those will be sporadic. We are 94% leased, so it's not always easy for us to create densification in our existing parts. But across the board, we have opportunities, just like there was a question around the campus 3 in Ecoworld, there is a real opportunity where one tenant lease, we can densify the site. Similarly, in some of our large assets in Gurgaon, there are opportunities for us to increase that area and we do it in a thoughtful and methodical manner. That's a great observation.

Nilesh Doshi Mahendra

analyst
#80

Okay. And sir, last question, if you permit. Sir, where the traction is higher because the Mumbai, I think the Mumbai is the postal real estate so out of the other places, where the higher possibility of it?

Ankur Gupta

executive
#81

Land and expansion across the country like India is a place with the highest population density among the top 10 economies in the world. Compared to the U.S., we have to [indiscernible] more than China, we are 3x more. So India is a pretty land-constrained country. Certainly, our cities have become mega city or 20 million of population. So across Mumbai, Bangalore, Delhi, even Kolkata, there is pressure on lines, and we look for opportunities as we were.

Operator

operator
#82

Our next question comes from the line of Janvi Shah with Share India Securities.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#83

Sir, I know that you just gave clarifications on the old and new tax review. But on [indiscernible], I just wanted to know like how many of our SPVs are basically in that tax holiday at the moment because that will determine when they will move towards the new regime, right? So if you can give some clarity on that forward?

Shashank Jain

executive
#84

As we explained, one of the basic point of this is the taxability of DPU in the handset finisher. This is that all our SPVs were in the old regime. So from that perspective, what we are saying is that if the BPU is going to become tax free, all of them will move into the new regime. So it's a lift and shift from old to new for all SPVs. And then one of the -- again, bigger factor is that there is going to be no MAT, right? So that is also going to follow all SPVs, right? So as we said in the previous answers, I think this is a big significant announcement for REIT as a whole. And we are doing kind of 2 clients to come back to the number, but we're going to go in new regime for all.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#85

I completely understand that the movement to the new one will be more beneficial for everyone. I just wanted to understand on, let's say, because right now for [indiscernible] no tax holiday, we just have to pay the math and on the actual tax liability, that will be a lot more than the actual tax. So moving to the new one for the will not make sense.

Shashank Jain

executive
#86

Sorry, could you repeat your question?

Operator

operator
#87

Our next question comes from the line of Puneet with HSBC.

Puneet Gulati

analyst
#88

My first question, sorry, I joined the [indiscernible]

Shashank Jain

executive
#89

Puneet, I am really sorry, but your voice is breaking. Can you check you network, please?

Puneet Gulati

analyst
#90

Can you hear me well now?

Shashank Jain

executive
#91

Yes.

Puneet Gulati

analyst
#92

Great. And you might have answered this earlier, I joined a bit late. Can you talk about your thought process of acquiring a strata asset here, 3 floors, how will long-term maintenance happen for this kind of asset? And why do it with Nuvama jointly? And lastly, on the NOI side, you're talking about INR 1,250 million as potential NOI. If you can just give some breakdown of that also to be very helpful.

Saket Mehta

executive
#93

[indiscernible] We'd love to host you here we haven't been to our office that will really bring the asset to the front of your mind [indiscernible] year, which will be great for us to demonstrate the quality of the assets, the location, et cetera. This really is a building within a building, -- we have a separate lobby entrance. This is a large flow plate, 2.5, more than 2.5 lakh square feet on a value basis, this is more than 1 million square foot average of most of the markets in the country. Our rentals are 4x of the average portfolio rental. So you think about it in the context of million square foot average assets in the best location in Mumbai and the best market in the country. I think if you contextualize that, it will probably answer the question. Main tenant of the building we are saying that we are part of the building condo and the building is occupied by the highest quality tennats as well. So I think -- and we've been clear for the last 5 years as we see both as a owner of this asset as well as an occupier. So it's a fantastic asset [indiscernible] the country. And as Shashal mentioned earlier, in the bidding, Brookfield REIT and our partner here emerged neck to neck. It's only fair that both partners could come to an agreement and acquire it jointly.

Puneet Gulati

analyst
#94

No doubt about the quality of building, but here 5, 6 years down the line, should one think of a potential risk of disputes on maintenance, et cetera, or is there a separate contract that you have with the other existing owners, which insulate you from those sort of some of the other [indiscernible] sold buildings?

Saket Mehta

executive
#95

Compared to regular [indiscernible] building, this is highly institutionally owned between us and [indiscernible] occupiers on the other side. So I don't think that's a risk. There's always the risk in anything that we do, but massively managed here.

Shashank Jain

executive
#96

I'll just add that the building has been in existence for 12 years, performed at the same level. We, of course, must have seen the asset in the past as a very live, I would say, very thriving SMB retail downstairs has continued to command the best tenant in all of BKC, the best strength in all of the BKC. And that has all been under a condominium structure where, as Ankur said, there are 4 institutional large -- 4 large institutional owners between a large pharma company, another domestic fund [Foreign Language]at developers, a big family office as well as Brookfield. So very like-minded people and decisions typically happen very commercially in societies like these that are established in CBD. So we don't see the challenge that you are talking about. At least we don't foresee it in the near future. But the other part of doing -- having an ownership like this is -- or having a staff like this is -- there can be potential opportunities to grow in the building, and consolidate in the building, given there are 4 owners. And I think having access to capital like the one that our REIT has access to would put us in a good spot, as we think about growing in the building and consolidating that space as well.

Puneet Gulati

analyst
#97

Understood. That's helpful. And on your NOI expectations for FY '28 which is INR 1,250 million, this is different from what the valuers have given. Can you kind understand what is the gap?

Ankur Gupta

executive
#98

This is basically the gross NOI number from the valuation report that we said numbers

Operator

operator
#99

Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question for today. I now hand the conference over to the management for the closing remarks. Thank you, and over to you, team.

Shashank Jain

executive
#100

Thank you. Thank you, everyone, for taking time out and participating in this call. We look forward to be in touch with you and continued interactions. Much appreciate your time there. Thank you so much. Have a good day.

Operator

operator
#101

Thank you so much, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of Brookfield India Real Estate Trust, that concludes today's conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your line.

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