Burgan Bank K.P.S.C. (BURG) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 1, 2024
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystGood afternoon, everyone. This is Ahmed El-Shazly from EFG Hermes, and I would like to welcome you all to the Burgan Bank Group H1 2020 Earnings Call. Thank you very much for taking the time to attend this conference call. And I'd like to inform you that today's call is being recorded. With that, I'd like to hand over to Mr. Animesh Aseem from Burgan Bank to kick over the call.
Animesh Aseem
executiveThank you, Ahmed. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Burgan Bank Group's H1 '24 Earnings Call. Thank you very much for taking the time to attend this call. Joining this call from Burgan are Mr. Khalid Al Zouman, Chief Financial Officer; Mr. Sanket Mokashi, Deputy General Manager Finance Group; Mr. Gaurav Handa, Assistant General Manager, Finance Group; and myself, Animesh Aseem, Senior Manager, Strategy and Capital Management. We shall cover the slides over the next 20 minutes or so. And we would come back -- we will welcome your questions at the end when the presentation is covered. With that, let me kickoff today's presentation with key developments this quarter, as highlighted on the Slide #8. Sorry, we can continue.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystYes. Yes, please go ahead. We can hear you now.
Animesh Aseem
executiveAll right. Correct. So like I was saying, this was part of the bank's overall funding strategy, which included a new issuance of KD 150 million AT1 bonds in May 2024 and subsequent redemption of this USD AT1 bonds. The second one relates to Burgan's plan to acquire 100% stake in UGB from United Gulf Holdings subsidiary of KIPCO, subject to final regulatory approvals in Kuwait and in Bahrain. Burgan received an initial CBK approval in June 24 to start engaging with regulatory authorities in Bahrain. This transaction, when executed, would help build new revenue streams, create cross-sell opportunities and generate integration synergies for Burgan. Thirdly, Burgan continues its relentless effort to further enhance its digital infrastructure. In this context, the bank has appointed Tata consultancy services to upgrade its core banking system. Also, the bank emerged as one of the earliest Kuwaiti banks to join the GCC real-time payment platform, AFAQ. The fourth point is a testament to Burgan's unwavering commitment to service excellence as it was voted the best domestic bank in Kuwait under the best service category in the 2024 Euromoney Trade Finance Survey. With that, I will hand over to our CFO, Mr. Khalid, to cover the next few slides.
Khalid Al Zouman
executiveThank you. Thank you very much. Good afternoon, everyone. Let me start with the first half of '24 performance highlights on Slide #10. And Slide #10, Burgan reported the quite robust financial performance during the first half of 2024, with significant improvement from last year. The group's revenues reached KD 111 million, translating into an impressive growth of 19% year-on-year. Accordingly, group's bottom line also increased significantly by 17% year-on-year. Our reported net income for the first half of 2024 reached KD 21 million. Burgan's strategic focus on growth is apparent with our loan book increasing by 10% year-on-year to reach KD 4.4 billion in the first half of 2024. This growth was predominantly led by our Kuwait franchise, which grew by 8% year-on-year to reach KD 3.6 billion. Our capital levels remained very strong with a CET1 of 13% and a CAR, capital adequacy ratio of 19.3%. These ratios are well above the regulatory requirements with sufficient capital buffers, which [ provide ] ambitious for bank's future growth. Let me move and go over to the financial review and starting from Slide #12 here, which covers the financial indicators for the period in [ granular ] details. First, as already highlighted, the bank's revenue for the first half of 2024, increased by 19% year-on-year to reach KD 111 million. This increase in revenues was primarily driven by higher net interest income of KD 71 million, up 17% year-on-year and robust noninterest income of KD 39 million, which is up 24% year-on-year. The below diagram, higher net interest income was supported by a 20 basis point year-on-year improvement in the net interest margin of the bank, which increased to 2.1% in the first half of 2024 from 1.9% during the first half of 2023. Top diagram in the middle, driven by higher revenues, Burgan boosted solid operating profit of KD 48 million, marking a significant growth of 24% year-on-year. Accordingly, group cost-to-income ratio also improved by 170 basis points from 58.3% in first half of '23 to 56.6% in the first half of 2024. In the bottom and the top right, again, in the right, program net income remained resilient at KD 21 million for the first half of 2024, with an impressive 17% year-on-year growth. And the bottom line, the cost of credit for the group net of recoveries remained very low at mere 30 basis points, such low ratio reiterates inherent strength of our credit portfolio. Now I said that, we move to Slide #13, which reflects the group's asset quality metrics as shown in the screen. And on the top left, the group NPL ratio increased year-on-year. We already discussed this temporary increase in NPL during our last quarter update call. And the same is now reflected in the half year of 2024 numbers as well. However, if you look at sequentially on a quarter-on-quarter basis, you would note that our NPL ratio has improved from 2.6% in Q1 '24 to 2.5% in Q2 '24. We are working on improving our NPL ratios further, and we are very hopeful that this temporary increase will normalize coming -- expect maybe in Q3. That's our own first -- our first forecast. So our NPL coverage ratio stood at 174% and our ECL buffers over the ECL requirements were KD 116 million, which reassures Burgan's strong coverage profile. Provision charge net of recoveries for the [ period ] of KD 6 million, that translates to 30 basis points of our portfolio, which is not significant. With having said that, I will now hand over to my colleague, Mr. Sanket to cover the next few slides.
Sanket Mokashi
executiveThank you, Mr. Khalid. Moving on to Slide #14. The key messages on this slide are as follows: Burgan's asset base increased by 8% year-on-year and stood at KD 7.6 billion at the end of first half 2024. Burgan's loan book grew by 10% year-to-year to KD 4.4 billion, predominantly driven by strong growth, demonstrated by our Kuwait franchise, which saw its loan portfolio grew by 8% year-on-year to reach KD 83.6 billion. The bank continues to be well diversified in terms of its exposure to different sectors and there are no material concentrations. Also, it is noteworthy to highlight that there has not been any major movements in the sector concentration year-on-year. The bank continues to hold healthy levels of liquid assets to its books -- in its books as reflected by its liquid assets to total asset ratio of 24.2%. The staging of loans also remained more or less stable. The slight uptick in Stage 3 portfolio indicates the increase in our NPLs, which was discussed earlier. Moving on to Slide #15. The key highlights on this slide are as follows: the group's deposit base grew by 7% year-on-year and stood at KD 4.6 billion at the end of first half 2024. Our CASA balances remained stable and healthy at 32%. Our key liquidity ratios, NSFR and LCR remained very strong and are well above the regulatory requirements. Moving to Slide 16. This talks about our capital positions Burgan's capital levels are strong and healthy with significant buffer over regulatory minimums. This is expected to support our growth momentum. Our CET1 ratio is at 13% and the total CAR ratio is at 19.3% at the end of first half 2024. Moving on to Slide 17. This slide provides a bird's eye view of the KPIs relating to our key franchises. As evident, which continues to be the largest contributor to the group's asset base. Overall, leading indicators across the group remains stable with most of the metrics trending in the right direction with no major surprises. Asset quality remains healthy with adequate coverage. Cross-selling remains one of the key focus for the group. I will now hand it back to our CFO, Mr. Khalid, to conclude this presentation.
Khalid Al Zouman
executiveWell, thank you very much. Thanks, and thanks for listening. Now we are moving to Slide #18. And in summary, to conclude this presentation, we'd like to say that Burgan delivered a strong all-around performance with all core metrics of the bank trending in the right direction. Focus remains on growth backed by strong capital levels. Burgan remains committed to continue accelerating its dedicated technology evolution and digital transformation strategy. And with that, I will conclude my -- our presentation, and I'll hand it back over to our colleague, Mr. Ahmed to coordinate the Q&A session.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystThank you. Thank you for the presentation. We will now start the Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] We have our first question from [indiscernible]. Chiro, can you hear us?
Chira Ghosh
analystCan you hear me?
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystYes. Okay.
Chira Ghosh
analystThis is Chiro Ghosh from SICO Bahrain. I have a couple of questions. The first one is related to the asset quality. So the gross cost of risk was quite low this quarter. So just wanted to get a sense of what is the reason? Or is it related to the settlement, which you are in discussions with a few of your accounts, your clients, which you referred in your last conference call, is it related to that? And also if you can give some color on the asset quality of the other regions? That's my first question. Second one, I saw that the deposit rose in first quarter and then again came back in the second quarter. And the CASA appeared to have improved. So can you give some color on the deposit side?
Gaurav Handa
executiveYes, sure. So we'll start with the asset quality. Although there is an increase in our NPL ratio, which happened in Q1, but these customers were fully collateralized. So we didn't have to take any provisions on these customers. So that's the result that we didn't take. But however, we are quite cautious, and we are adopting our conservative provisioning policies. So whatever recoveries that are happening since last 1 year, we have not been taking those to PR. We are actually building precautionary provisions against those. So despite that, our net COC is 30 bps, which has been quite low since last 1 year or so. That's on the asset quality. The second question on the deposits, yes, we have been managing our deposit base. But as you know, we had a perpetual issuance also. We had KD 150 million perpetual issuance, and we also had a legacy $500 million perpetual as of June. So we were carrying 2 perpetuals. So we did not need so many deposits. So -- and as and when the expensive deposits matured, we did not renew them. But in Q3, we have -- recently in July, we have repaid the legacy $500 million perpetual as well. So there is this temporary movement which keeps happening in deposits. Plus, you will see on the other side, there is an increase in due from OFI -- due to OFIs. So we have -- sometimes you borrow from OFIs and sometimes it is the customer deposits, which fund our growth.
Chira Ghosh
analystAnd what will be the impact on the margin because of this going ahead?
Gaurav Handa
executiveSo the margins have actually improved. If you would have noticed that. So we have -- one is the loan growth that we have had strong growth in loan volumes plus the high interest rate environment, both in Kuwait as well as Turkey. So these have supported our margins. And our expectation is that we would remain at this 2%, 2.1% level for the year, even if there is a rate cut, which we expect only in September or maybe end of the year.
Chira Ghosh
analystSo it won't have any significant impact.
Gaurav Handa
executiveNot this year. This year, no, we don't expect that this year. But yes, 2025, if there are multiple rate cuts that happen, if the Fed does and CBK follows, then there could be some impact on the margins.
Chira Ghosh
analystNegative side?
Gaurav Handa
executiveNegative side, yes.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystThank you, Chiro. We will now take some questions from the Q&A box. The first one is, could you explain the drivers of margin expansion? I think you addressed this, but just to make sure if you'd like to expand. Could you explain the drivers of margin expansion during Q2 on a Q-on-Q basis? Is it coming from Turkey CPI linkers or repricing for rate hikes? And what is your outlook for margins in the second half?
Khalid Al Zouman
executiveI'll reiterate or repeat what my colleague Mr. Gaurav said, is mainly in Kuwait, we have again improved our margins because we get improved in our interest rate increases. In Turkey, there is an improvement in margins compared to last year. Nothing to do with the CPI linkers. It's just the improvement happened in our lending book. How would it's going to be evolved? I think Gaurav just said -- told you that we expect it to remain stable during the -- for the remaining of the year.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystAll right. Thank you. The next question. The personal loans in the presentation appears to be very different from the retail loans published in the financial report. Can you please clarify the difference? And also, what is your outlook for retail loan growth in Kuwait?
Gaurav Handa
executiveYes. So the personal loan category is actually a category defined by the Central Bank of Kuwait. So it does not just include the retail loans, but private banking loans are also included there, plus the loans given to holding companies, which have diversified business in various industries also get classified there because they've been classified as investment companies. So this has always been the -- Ahmed, could you hear us? We had answered the previous question.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystI think you got cut. Your voice was cut during the latest part of the -- last part of your answer.
Gaurav Handa
executiveOkay. I'll just repeat what I said earlier. This personal loan sector is a definition from Central Bank of Kuwait. So this includes -- in our case, it includes the retail portfolio. It includes the private banking portfolio. And if we are funding to any holding companies, they are closely held -- closely held companies, which invest in various companies under various industries. So these also get classified under personal category. And...
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystYes. I think your voice got cut off again.
Gaurav Handa
executiveOkay. We're just getting this recording message again and again, probably there is some technical issue there.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystI think you're getting disconnected and then reconnected. That's why you got -- you can hear the message again. Okay. So we'll move on to the next question. What will be the impact on capital ratios from the acquisition of UGB? And what is the rationale of acquiring UGB as the strategy remains to exit noncore assets.
Gaurav Handa
executiveAhmed, Can you hear us?
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystYes, we can hear you now.
Animesh Aseem
executiveOkay. So we've just stopped sharing our screen. Maybe that will help.
Gaurav Handa
executiveCan you repeat the last question, please?
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystSure. So what will be the impact on capital ratios from the acquisition of UGB. And what is the rationale of acquiring UGB as the strategy remains to exit noncore assets.
Animesh Aseem
executiveSo just answering the first question on the capital, as we have also made a disclosure in this context, the impact or the detailed impacts are still under negotiation. So we will not be able to disclose exact impacts, but we can talk about the rationale as to why we are making this acquisition. So this -- as I already mentioned in my opening statement, this acquisition is in line with our strategy of asset reallocation and building new revenue streams. UGB has a wholesale conventional banking license in Bahrain with an Islamic window. And it also owns 60% of KAMCO, a leading investment house in Kuwait. So this transaction will materialize, will help Burgan to increase our footprint across GCC region. It will create new revenue streams and integration of synergies. It will -- like I said, it will provide us access to KAMCO, which is -- which will enhance our existing customer offerings and propositions. So with all these merits in the transactions, we are contemplating this acquisition.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystAll right. Thank you. The next question is on the drivers of the increase in NPLs.
Khalid Al Zouman
executiveI think, is an end I think we shed the light on it in Q1 conference call. We say that there are some -- 2 customers, if I remember, and they are collateralized. And I think the bank has stood strong connection of this customer. So they can adhere to our conventional or repayment scheduled? You will see a change. I believe you will see a change coming soon in Q3, Q4 maximum in term of reduction in our NPL. So the issue is not a cash flow, it's just behavior of some customers.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystAll right. Thank you. Our next question is what is the outlook for loan growth?
Gaurav Handa
executiveYes. So if you look at our financials, we have grown at around 5% for the last 6 months. We expect to be -- remain in the high single-digit level for the full year. But year-on-year, yes, as of now, we have achieved 10% growth and 8% of that is coming from Kuwait. So high single digit would be our guidance for now.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystAll right. Can you please address the NPL increase in Algeria. What is driving this high level and it would be helpful if you can break down what segments that are driving these NPLs.
Khalid Al Zouman
executiveActually, maybe if you see it from a percentage point of view, maybe you think it's high, but these are small, small, small customers, they are not significant in terms of amount. And when we have -- even discussion with the management, the CEO over there, some of them written off and some of them, they think they will be regularized, and some they might be a legal action against them. But they are small, small in variant industries, not a specific one.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystOkay. The next question, what is your asset quality loan growth and NIM outlook in Turkey.
Gaurav Handa
executiveYes. So asset quality, as of now, our NPL ratio in Turkey is around 1%. NIMs are quite high at 4.5%. The policy rates are, as of now, at 50%, one of the highest that Turkey has seen in the past. So they are expecting that the inflation is supposed to come down in second half of the year -- half of the year because of the high interest rates environment. And probably we don't expect any cut in interest rate, and we should be able to maintain our margins at 4.5% this year. And even the NPL ratio is going to be low at 1% or maximum 2% levels.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystOkay. We have a follow-up question on the retail loan growth question earlier. There was some disturbance on the line. Can you please repeat what is your outlook for the retail loan growth in Kuwait?
Gaurav Handa
executiveAs of now, we are not seeing a significant retail loan growth in the sector. But as we had changed our strategy since last 2 years, we had built our sales team to focus on retail. So our business is growing. But with a smaller base, our base in retail is quite small. We are growing at around 10% to 12% on an annual basis in the retail portfolio. Sector is growing at only 3% to 4% levels, but this has been our strategy and focus area for us since the last 2 years, and we continue to do that in the coming year as well.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystOkay. The next question, how is the progress in defaults, including mortgage loan and the pickup in project spending?
Khalid Al Zouman
executiveI think that's something is under study until now. Everybody knows that the [ Barlaman ] has been not only resolved. Actually, the oil process has been stopped for all. It's going to be reviewed everything. The project is, we are very optimistic that things are moving on, and you will see it coming in the next few months. Actually, some of them are started already, but we are very optimistic that the process will not be delayed or is going to be prolonged as before.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystAll right. Next question. Should we expect that the previous guided 150 to 200 basis points buffer over the minimum CET1 ratio to be maintained even after the UGB acquisition.
Gaurav Handa
executiveWe -- actually, we are still in the phase of calculating the impact of UGB acquisition. But yes, we have always at least 1% buffer -- 1% to 1.5% buffer over the minimum would be maintained. That is our initial expectation, what we have from the draft calculations. But yes, we would maintain at least 12% CET1 by end of the year.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystOkay. We have another question on UGB. Does the potential acquisition of UGB assumed cash payment or other sources of payments such as share exchange?
Khalid Al Zouman
executiveI think it's too early and to discuss details. Today, what we have, and let me be frank with everybody, it's just an approval from Central Bank to contact the foreign regulator in Bahrain. We are now in our initial study. But what my colleague, Mr. Animesh mentioned is what we expect later this -- when this deal closes, that what the potential synergies there. But at this moment, it's really on the initial stages, if I may say.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystAll right. We have a question that I think that you've addressed, but maybe you would like to add? Are you seeing project rollouts and healthy corporate borrowing demand within Kuwait.
Khalid Al Zouman
executiveYes, overall, we see the liquidity. For example, liquidity is not there and the -- I remember like 2 years ago where the deposits on KD were high. We don't see this type of cost deposit lately. So the liquidity is there, and there is a lot of opportunities. I think there is atmosphere, overall atmosphere that the country has to move and move forward. And that's why we think, yes, because the bigger or the major projects is handled by the government, and the government is -- they have the capacity to pay its dues.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystOkay. Thank you. We can pause for just a moment in case we see any more -- I think just received one question. Where would you expect the cost-to-income ratio to end for 2024 and '25.
Gaurav Handa
executiveWe are moving in the right direction. The cost-to-income ratio has been improving. As of now, we stand at around 56% levels. But there is one important reason for this high cost to income is also high inflation in Turkey. Turkey expenses are increasing by 60% to 70% annually because of the high inflation rate there. But we are on the right track. But at the end of the year, we are expecting somewhere mid around 55% levels.
Ahmed El-Shazly
analystOkay. So we'll pause for a moment just to make sure that there are no more questions. Okay. So I think we've addressed all the questions that we received. So I'd like to hand over the call back to management for any closing remarks.
Khalid Al Zouman
executiveI would like to thank you, Mr. Ahmed for helping us and coordinating the call. I would like also to thank all the investors, the colleagues who attended our call. And now I would like to thank my colleagues helping me to set up this call. And we are there for you if there is anything to ask in the future. We'll be glad to answer all the questions. And see you maybe next quarter.
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