Canadian Net Real Estate Investment Trust (NETUN) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 22, 2024

TSX Venture Exchange CA Real Estate Diversified REITs earnings 17 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good morning. I would like to welcome everyone to Canadian Net REIT's 2024 First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would like to advise everyone that this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ben Gazith, Canadian Net REIT's Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, Mr. Gazith.

Charles Gazith

executive
#2

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on our Q1 2024 results conference call. Before we begin today, we are obliged to advise you that in talking about our financial and operating performance and in responding to questions today, we may make forward-looking statements, including statements concerning Canadian Net's objectives and strategies to achieve them as well as statements with respect to our plans, estimates and intentions or concerning anticipated future events, results, circumstances, or performance, which are not historical facts. These statements are based on our current expectations and assumptions and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from the conclusions in these forward-looking statements. Additional information on the risks that could impact our actual results and the expectations and assumptions we applied in making these forward-looking statements can be found in Canadian Net's most recent annual information form for the year ended December 31, 2023, and management's discussion and analysis for the period ended March 31, 2024, which are available on our website at www.cnetreit.com and on SEDAR+ at www.sedarplus.com. We will also refer to non-IFRS financial measures today, which are widely used in the Canadian real estate industry, including FFO, AFFO and NOI. Canadian Net believes these financial measures provide useful information to both management and investors in measuring the financial performance and financial condition of Canadian Net. These financial measures do not have any standardized definitions prescribed by IFRS and may not be comparable to similarly titled measures reported by other entities. For more information, please refer to the section non-IFRS financial measures of our MD&A for the period ending March 31, 2024. I will now turn the call over to Kevin Henley, Canadian Net REIT's President and CEO. Kevin?

Kevin Henley

executive
#3

Thank you, Ben, and good morning, everyone. Our portfolio continued to perform very well during Q1. We maintained our 100% occupancy and 57% payout ratio. In addition, we are happy to announce the completion of our Lachenaie Benny&Co. development, which came live in May. We are also starting the construction on our Beloeil Benny&Co. development, which will come live in the fall. Combined, those properties will add approximately $135,000 of NOI on an annual basis to the REIT. While the portfolio performed well, we reported a 3% decrease in FFO per unit from $0.157 to $0.152 per unit. This was due to higher interest expense on our line of credit and most importantly, from mortgages renewed in 2023 in the wholly owned and in the JVs. As we move into 2024, we are seeing lower mortgage rates than 2023, so we believe the hype is behind us at this point. Turning over to lease renewals. We only have one lease coming up for renewal at the end of 2024, representing approximately $60,000. Looking at 2025, we have 5 leases coming up for renewal, representing approximately $2.35 million in NOI. Of those, one lease of $90,000 has already been renewed at a 32% spread. We expect the leasing spread on the 2025 renewals to be at around 7%. Demand remains excessively strong in our asset class. The properties on which we have expiring leases hold strong positions in their markets and rents are below market. As we move into the year, more of the 2025 leases will be renewed. Our weighted average lease term is at 6.5 years. On the financing front, we have 8 loans for renewal in 2024. Those include two variable rate mortgages on the properties held for sale and three mortgages and joint ventures. Those are spread throughout the year and excluding those on the properties held for sale, we have one in each of Q1, Q2, Q3 and 3 in the Q4. The loan renewal in Q1 allowed us to generate $150,000 in cash proceeds, which we will get during Q2. As we look at the transaction market, we are hopeful that activity will pick up as we saw a decrease in the all-in mortgage rates compared to 2023. Valuations held strong last year, which made it impossible to buy accretive opportunities. With lower rates in 2024, we might see a pickup in activity. Our current objective remains to recycle capital in order to high-grade the portfolio and invest in accretive opportunities as those arise. I will now turn the call back over to Ben Gazith, who will review our Q1 results in more details. Thank you.

Charles Gazith

executive
#4

Thank you, Kevin. . For the 3-month period ended March 31, 2024, we generated FFO per unit of $0.152, down 3% compared to $0.157 for the same period in 2023. FFO for the period ended March 31, 2024, decreased to $3.1 million compared to $3.2 million in Q1 2023. FFO was impacted by increases from contractual rent step-ups, which was offset by higher interest charges on mortgage renewals, variable rate mortgages and credit facilities. During the same period, property rental income was $6.5 million, an increase of 2% compared to $6.4 million in the same period last year. NOI was $4.8 million, down 1% from $4.9 million for the same period in 2023. Rental income and NOI were impacted by increases in base rent and recover additional rents of certain existing properties and decreases in rental revenue from property dispositions in 2023. The IFRS value of our adjusted investment properties, which is the total of our wholly owned investment properties and our proportionate share of the investment properties held in joint ventures was $330 million as of March 31, 2024, compared to $329 million a year earlier. We continue to maintain a prudent approach with respect to our leverage and our payout ratio, having a debt-to-gross asset ratio of approximately 57% at year-end compared to 59% at the same time last year. Excluding convertible debentures, debt-to-gross assets was 54% compared to 55% last year. Our FFO payout ratio for Q1 2024 was 57%, a slight increase from 55% for the same period last year. Our properties are typically financed with fixed rate amortizing mortgages. As of March 31, 2024, the REIT's exposure to variable rate debt is composed of 2 variable rate mortgages and its credit facilities. In addition, bridge loans on our development project are at variable rate until converted to takeout financing. We had $12 million of mortgages rolling over in 2024, excluding [indiscernible] in our JVs and the bulk of our renewals are not before [ 2020 ]. Included in the mortgages rolling over are $20 million of mortgages associated with properties held for sale. The current average term to maturity on our mortgages is 4.3 years. That summarizes our Q results for the quarter. We will now open the line for any questions. Operator?

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Alexander Leon with Desjardins Capital Markets.

Alex Leon

analyst
#6

My first question is on some of the commentary you made on the cadence of the lease renewals. So I just wanted to confirm, so for 2024, you mentioned that there's only 1 lease coming up for renewal and that is at the end of the year. Is that correct?

Kevin Henley

executive
#7

Exactly. So it's a December lease. So we'll be renegotiating with the tenants shortly.

Alex Leon

analyst
#8

Okay. Awesome. And then maybe can you provide some commentary on maybe the cadence of some of those leases? I think you mentioned 5 leases that are coming up for renewal in 2025.

Kevin Henley

executive
#9

Yes. So I would say they are spread really throughout the year. We have 2 in Q1, 1 in Q3 and 1 in Q4. Those are the major ones. The other one has been renewed already. And so as for the cadence, those are national tenants. And so the way though they address renewals is rarely ahead of time. They have procedures to follow. So while we feel extremely confident about the renewal, we won't have an answer before their actual option period delay.

Alex Leon

analyst
#10

Okay. And on that...

Kevin Henley

executive
#11

6 to 9 months ahead of expiry.

Alex Leon

analyst
#12

Okay. And then the 1 renewal that you mentioned, you completed the 32% spread. Did you mention that was 90,000 square feet?

Kevin Henley

executive
#13

$90,000 sorry.

Alex Leon

analyst
#14

$90,000. Okay.

Kevin Henley

executive
#15

That increased by 32%.

Alex Leon

analyst
#16

Okay. Awesome. And then maybe just the last one. I want to confirm some of the commentary you mentioned on the mortgages. You mentioned one in each of Q1, Q2, Q3 and then 3 in Q4. So that concludes the mortgages in the JVs?

Kevin Henley

executive
#17

Exactly.

Alex Leon

analyst
#18

Okay. And -- so I guess on the 2 variable rate mortgages, are those the ones that are on balance sheet?

Kevin Henley

executive
#19

Exactly. So the 2 properties you see for sale, those are variable rate mortgages.

Alex Leon

analyst
#20

Those are the ones listed for sale. Okay. That's it for me.

Operator

operator
#21

Our next question comes from David Chrystal with Echelon.

David Chrystal

analyst
#22

Noticed a slight fair value gain on the assets held for sale. Is this based on ongoing discussions on the sale process and kind of refining pricing there? Or is it more just broadly cap rates or higher NOI forecast for those properties?

Kevin Henley

executive
#23

This is simply from NOI. So we renegotiated some leases last year on those properties, extending the term, increasing the rent. And so that's what you see reflected. Cap rate remained stable. And so that's the reason.

David Chrystal

analyst
#24

And are you having any active discussions? And can you maybe comment on expected timing of those dispositions?

Kevin Henley

executive
#25

Having conversation, yes. Timing of dispositions. wouldn't want to commit at this point.

David Chrystal

analyst
#26

And what's the cap rate implied by the carrying value?

Kevin Henley

executive
#27

The cap rate, it would be -- I would need to get back to you on it, but it would have to be in the 6s and in 7s for the property in the [indiscernible].

David Chrystal

analyst
#28

Okay. And you've addressed all of your 2024 leases and obviously making progress on '25. Can you give us a sense of what organic NOI growth looks like for '24 and if you have a good idea of '25 as well?

Kevin Henley

executive
#29

Yes. Our organic growth, generally speaking, in the portfolio always turns around about 1.5%. So that is in line with historicals this year.

David Chrystal

analyst
#30

And do you expect similar for '25?

Kevin Henley

executive
#31

No significant. I would say the larger one will be the renewals. But apart from this, nothing -- it's a quiet year, I would say, in terms of lease rollover and renewals in '25 for us. Everything is very stable and safe for 2025.

David Chrystal

analyst
#32

Okay. And last one for me. There was a dip in NOI from the joint ventures quarter-over-quarter. Is there anything onetime or timing related in this? And what's a good run rate for the full year including the new deliveries.

Kevin Henley

executive
#33

Yes. I will pass it on to Ben for this.

Charles Gazith

executive
#34

I think it was mainly due to a catch-up of variable rent in one of our properties in Q4 due to higher volume, and also, I think we had also a rate jump up as well.

David Chrystal

analyst
#35

So would Q1 be a good run rate? Or would the full year look similar to last year?

Charles Gazith

executive
#36

I think that's fair to say, yes.

David Chrystal

analyst
#37

Okay. I'll turn it back.

Kevin Henley

executive
#38

We did have a onetime $30,000 gain also from one of the properties, and again, like Ben mentioned, for variable in Q4. And so obviously, this won't be reflected in Q1, Q2 going forward.

Operator

operator
#39

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Zachary Weisbrod with Canaccord.

Zachary Weisbrod

analyst
#40

Your IFRS cap rate has held relatively stable now for several consecutive quarters. So I'm wondering if this is reflective of what you're seeing in the market in regards to pricing for potential acquisition opportunities or dispositions?

Kevin Henley

executive
#41

Yes. What I would say is the cap rates didn't really move last year because we saw very little transactions. And when you think of our portfolio, especially, we own assets in secondary and tertiary markets. So when you look at this market, single-tenant retail properties in those markets really did not transact last year. So obviously, that stayed stable. From a transactional perspective, we see quite the same. So the assets that were for sale in 2023 held their price, just didn't transact. And as I was mentioning earlier, with today's mortgage rates, we might see some more activity on those properties because although the pricing is the same, the yield now that you can generate compared to the mortgage is interesting. So valuation stayed strong throughout the year. And I think the characteristic of our industry as well as -- we're talking about single tenant triple net properties management free. Most owners of those properties aren't in a rush ever to sell because you have so little to operate and so little risk. And so we can -- we really saw sellers holding strong last year.

Zachary Weisbrod

analyst
#42

I see. So it's more of a function of limited transaction activity. Okay. And turning to leasing activity, building off of Alex's line of questions, I believe you mentioned that you achieved a very strong leasing spread of 32% on 2025 expiry. Are you able to give a little bit more color on the type of property, the tenant location?

Kevin Henley

executive
#43

Yes, it was a QSR property in the Greater Montreal area. I would say QSRs when they get to the expiry of their lease so no more options is where we see across the market, generally speaking, a significant opportunity for increase.

Zachary Weisbrod

analyst
#44

Okay. And for the remainder of the 2025 expiries, are those more the grocery-anchored properties?

Kevin Henley

executive
#45

Yes.

Operator

operator
#46

Our next question comes from Alexander Leon with Desjardins Capital Markets.

Alex Leon

analyst
#47

Sorry, guys. That was a mistake on my end, I tried to jump out of the queue.

Operator

operator
#48

I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Kevin Henley for closing remarks.

Kevin Henley

executive
#49

Well, thank you all for being on the call today and looking forward to the next one for our Q2 results. Thank you, and have a great day.

Operator

operator
#50

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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