Capital Limited (CAPD) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 18, 2023

London Stock Exchange GB Materials Metals and Mining shareholder_meeting 32 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good morning, and welcome to the Capital Limited Annual General Meeting. [Operator Instructions] I'd now like to hand over to Jamie Boyton, Chairman. Good morning to you, sir.

Jamie Boyton

executive
#2

Good morning. Thank you very much, and welcome to everyone that's dialed in today to Capital's Annual General Meeting. Thank you very much for dialing in. I will just give a brief overview of the agenda today. And really what we're going to focus on is a quick run-through of some overview slides, which includes our outlook statement. We're then going to hand over to Catherine Apthorpe, our Company Secretary, and Catherine will go through the results of the voting. And we'll then hand over to a Q&A session. Just for your reference, you're likely to hear from -- obviously, hear from myself today, Catherine. With me is Peter Stokes, our CEO; Rick Robson, our CFO; and Conor Rowley, Corporate Development and Investor Relations. So it'll be a combination of us depending on the questions that we feel today. A brief introduction to Capital for those that aren't familiar with us. But obviously, we are an integrated multi-disciplined service provider to mineral exploration, development and mining companies across Africa, the Middle East, with a growing presence in Canada. The service verticals, the main 3 service verticals of the drilling business, which is the foundation of Capital, where we operate around 125 rigs in Africa and the Middle East, making us the largest service -- or drilling company in the region. Mining, a newer business initiative for us. And we've operated 2 projects, both in Africa and Ivory Coast and Egypt. That's an earthmoving business. MSALABS, which is our very rapid growth geochem testing business, and that is focused globally in nature, with a very strong presence in Africa or in Canada, and going through a very rapid growth phase, 75% revenue growth year-on-year. So very strong growth there. Our investment portfolio which is focused exclusively at this stage on investments and exploration of mining companies that are focused in Africa. And the fifth pillar of our business is our newly created innovation division. It's been established since Peter came on board, which is in October of last year, and it's really been designed to put some structure around how we're approaching new technologies and how we can bring them into our business. The genesis of that was obviously what we did with the Chrysos technology, which has been very successful for our laboratory business. Well Force, our downhole survey business. More recently, Mine Power Solutions, remote power solutions business, which we're looking at getting off the ground. So they're the 5 key pillars to the business. We provide services across the mining cycle, all the way from exploration into production and processing. So we're an end-to-end service provider. We have a focus on Tier 1 projects, meaning long-life assets with low cost to production growth prospects and owned by top-tier customers. We have a business model to establish infrastructure at our customers' operations and grow our service offering, leveraging that infrastructure with focus on long-term contracts, and about 90% of the group's revenue is derived from the services and activities that we provide at the mine sites. The most recent update that we provided to the market was obviously the Q1 trading update, where we showed very strong growth in our first quarter revenue, 16% higher than first quarter of last year. That growth has come from predominantly from continued performance of our drilling business, particularly pleasing to see an increase in the ARPOR drilling business as we rationalize the portfolio in the second half of last year and have seen an improved performance on the remaining core portfolio, and then continued rapid growth in our laboratory business. The mining business, which is the contract we're currently operating at Sukari, continues to perform very well, providing a very good platform across all 3 of the operating businesses. Reiterating our outlook and guidance. We're guiding this year revenue of $320 million to $340 million. which is, as you can see, a very strong increase in the bottom right chart from $115 million in 2019 when we were predominantly almost exclusively a drilling business. The revenue contribution from our non-drilling activities were from our mining and laboratory activities moving in the high 20%. So we're very pleased with the growth there. Within that, revenue guidance, we're guiding the laboratory business to contribute $40 million to $50 million this year, with CapEx guidance of $50 million to $60 million. These guidance numbers are consistent with the previous guidance numbers that we've given the market. We are continuing to operate in extremely buoyant and supportive conditions. The portfolio of contracts on which we're working is as robust and strong as I've seen it in the company's history, providing a lot of growth opportunities, not only within the existing platform of projects but also new tendering opportunities. A very brief introduction. On that note, I'll hand over to Catherine to run through the resolutions, please.

Catherine Apthorpe

executive
#3

Thanks, Jamie. [indiscernible] [Technical Difficulty]. The meeting has been convened to consider 12 [indiscernible] resolutions, chief provision. Resolutions 13 and 14 are special resolutions, which require 75% more of the votes cast for the voting to be carried. All other resolutions are ordinary resolutions and will be passed if more than 50% of the votes cast are in favor. The business of the meeting is provided to the consideration of the resolutions contained in the notice of the meeting dated 13th of April 2023. If there are no objections, I propose taking the notes as read. It is intended that focusing on all resolutions at this meeting will be conducted on a poll rather than a show of hands. A poll reflects a number of voting rights exercisable by each shareholder, and so the Board considers it to be a more democratic method of voting. A poll also ensures the vote of shareholders who have appointed proxies are taken into account in the final voting results. I hereby call a poll in respect of all the resolutions. As it will take some time to complete the poll procedure, the final results of voting, including the proxy votes on the resolutions will be announced through our regulatory information service and published on our website as soon as reasonably practicable. Shareholders are presented with 3 options for each resolution. You can vote for the proposed resolution, against the proposed resolution or you may withhold your votes. A vote withheld is not a vote in law, which means that the vote will not be counted in the calculation of votes for or against the resolution. If no voting indication is given, your proxy will vote or abstain from voting, at his or her discretion. Your proxy will vote [indiscernible] he or she with respect to remuneration and any other matter, which is before the meeting. We will now proceed to vote on the resolutions that are fully proposed in meeting. The full text of the resolutions is set out in the notice. Resolution 1. The first resolution is an ordinary resolution to receive and adopt the directors' report and accounts and the auditor's report for the year ended 31st December 2022. Prior to putting the first resolution to the meeting, I would draw your attention to the following proxies received by the company in relation to the resolution. So total votes 151,450,846, which is 78.3% of the current issued share capital. For, 151 450,846, which is 100% of the votes cast against 0, and votes withheld, 1,467.453. I now propose that the director's reporting accounts, auditor's report be received and adopted. Will you please vote now. [Voting] I declare the polls closed. As mentioned at the beginning of the meeting, it will take some time to complete the poll procedure, therefor the results of the poll will be announced through our regulatory information service and posted on the company's website at soon as practicable. Second resolution, ordinary resolution to receive and approve the directors' remuneration report for the year ended 31st of December 2022. I'd like to draw your attention to the following proxies received by the company in relation to the resolution. So the total votes are 151,417, 999, which is 78.2% of the current issued share capital. Votes in favor, 149,242,899, which was 98.56% of the votes cast by proxy, Against, 2,175,100, which is 1.44% of the votes cast by proxy, Votes withheld, 1,500,000. I propose that the director remuneration report to be received and approved. Will you please vote now. [Voting]

Catherine Apthorpe

executive
#4

I declare the poll closed. The results hold will be announced through our regulatory information service after the meeting. Resolutions 3 to 9 are ordinary solutions to reelect all directors of the company being Alex Davidson, David Abery, Michael Rawlinson, Jamie Boyton, Peter Stokes, Brian Rudd and Cassie Boggs. Prior to putting regulations 3 to 9 to the meeting, I would like to draw your attention to the following proxies received by the company in relation to each resolution. So Resolution 3, Alex Davidson. Total votes 139,675,610, which is 72% of the current issued share capital. Votes in favor, 99,210,912, which is 71.03% of the votes cast. Against, 40,464,698, which is 28.9% of the votes cast by proxy. And withheld, 13,242,389. Resolution 4, David Abery. Total votes, 151,417,999, [ 78.7% ]of the current issued share capital. Votes in favor were 130,708,429, which is 86.32% fleet of the votes cast by proxy Against, 20,709,570, which is 13.68% of the votes cast. Votes withheld, 1,500,000. Resolution 5, Michael Rawlinson. Total voters were 152,917,999, which is [ 38.9% ] of the current issued share capital. Votes in favor were 145,879,275, which is 95.40% of the votes cast by proxy. Against, 7,038,724, which 4.60% of the votes cast by proxy. And no votes withheld. Next resolution, Jamie Boyton. Total votes were 152,917,999, which is 78.9% of the current issued share capital. Votes in favor were 145,042,253, which is 94.85% of the votes cast by proxy. Against, 7,875,746, which 5.15% of the votes cast by proxy, with no votes withheld. Next resolution, Peter Stokes. 152,917,999, which is 78.9% of the current issued share capital, that's the total votes. Votes in favor, 152,764,979, which is 99.90% of the votes cast by proxy. Against was 153,020, which the 0.1% of the votes cast by proxy, and no votes withheld. Next resolution, Brian Rudd. Total votes, 151,417,999, which is [ 78.73% ] of the current issued share capital. Votes in favor are 151,216,847, which is 99.87% of the votes cast by proxy. Against, 201,152, which is 0.13% of the votes cast by proxy. And 1,500,000 votes withheld. Resolution 9, Cassie Boggs. Total votes, 151,642,999, which is 78.39% of the issued share capital. Votes in favor, 147,210,052, which is 97.08% of the votes cast by proxy. Against, 4,432,947, which is 2.92% of the votes cast by proxy. And 1,275,000 votes withheld. I now propose that each of the directors stated above be reelected as a director of the company. Well you please vote on each resolution now. [Voting]

Catherine Apthorpe

executive
#5

I declare the polls closed. Results of the poll will be announced through our regulatory information service posted on the company's website as soon as practicable. Resolution 10. This resolution in an ordinary resolution to reappoint BDO as auditor. Prior to this resolution, I would like to draw your attention to votes in proxies. Total votes, 152,917,999, which is 78.9% of the current issued share capital. Votes in favor, 151,308,629, which is 98.95% of the votes cast. Against, 1,609,370, which is 1.05% of the votes cast. And 0 votes withheld. I now propose that BDO be reappointed at auditor of the company. will you please vote now. [Voting]

Catherine Apthorpe

executive
#6

I declare the polls closed. The results of the poll will be announced through our regulatory information service and posted on the company's website as soon as practicable. 11th resolution is an ordinary resolution to authorize the directors to agree on the auditor's remuneration. Proxies we see are, total votes, 152,917,299, which is 78.9% of the issued share capital. Votes in favor, 152,840,757, which is 99.95% of the votes cast. Against, 76,542, which is 0.05% of the votes cast, with 700 votes withheld. I now propose the directors to agree the auditor's remuneration. Will you please vote now. [Voting]

Catherine Apthorpe

executive
#7

I declare the polls closed. The results of the poll will be announced through our regulatory information service. Resolution 12 is seeking to grant authority to allot and issue [Technical Difficulty]

Conor Rowley

executive
#8

We might have lost you there.

Operator

operator
#9

Catherine, if we could just ask you to continue via the dial in, that would be great.

Catherine Apthorpe

executive
#10

Results of the poll will be announced afterwards. Resolution 13, special resolution relating to authorizing the Board of Directors to issue shares for cash without shares has been offered to existing shareholders in proportion to the existing [indiscernible] forwarding of this resolution set out in the notice. And votes in proxy, total votes 152,916,999, which is 78.95% of the issued share capital. Votes for, 150,452,729, which is 98.39% of the votes. Against, 2,464,270, which is 1.61% of the votes cast. Votes withheld, 1,000. I now propose the resolution is passed. Will you please vote now. [Voting]

Catherine Apthorpe

executive
#11

I declare the poll closes. Results will be announced afterwards. Final resolution, resolution 14, special resolution to authorize the directors of the company to make market purchases of the common shares of the company. Full details are set out in the agenda. Proxy votes in 152,047,543, which is 78.5% of issued share capital. Votes in favor, 150,772,543, which 99.16% of votes. And against, 1,275,000, which is 0.84% of the votes cast. The votes withheld, 870,456. I now propose this resolution be passed. Will you please vote now. [Voting]

Catherine Apthorpe

executive
#12

I declare the poll closed. We will make a further announcement of all final results submitting to the market through our regulatory information service and posted on our website as soon as practicable. ladies and gentlemen, that concludes the voting. That is it from me. I will now pass you over to Peter Stokes, our CEO.

Peter Stokes

executive
#13

Thanks, Catherine. So now I think we are ready to take questions. There's -- I think there are a couple posted already. But just to give people an opportunity to post any questions that we might have on the chat.

Jamie Boyton

executive
#14

Peter, do you want me to kick off and answering some of the ones that's come in?

Peter Stokes

executive
#15

There's one..

Jamie Boyton

executive
#16

There were a few questions that came in prior to the meeting. So I'll just tackle those, if you like, before -- while the other ones appear on this platform. The first one was a question that we have had before specifically focusing on buybacks and the company's stance on buybacks looking at reference to our share price versus our NAV. Our response to that would be that would be, obviously, first off, we did engage in a buyback early 2022. A limited buyback, I might add. And while we see and we'll continue to consider all options, naturally, it's about -- it's a capital allocation model and really it has got to look at a number of factors. And that is not just the, obviously, accretiveness of our short-term buyback. But where you've seen in the last couple of years is the company has significantly increased the breadth and depth of its portfolio of customers that we are working with. So we've had -- really, our primary focus is capital allocation toward building that portfolio. Noting some of our contracts, the likes of Sukari [indiscernible] we've been on those sites approaching 20 years. And the projects that we have been allocating capital to in recent years, the lab business itself, but also projects like Reko Diq and [indiscernible] iron ore, these have the potential to turn into 20-year type of contracts. So really, it's a balancing for us. Obviously, the short-term impact of a buyback versus the long-term impact of allocating capital to projects that are going to give us those long-duration assets. So that's -- hopefully, that covers that topic. The second question that has been raised is just whether we would -- with the investment portfolio, questioning whether we get value for that within the business and whether we'd look at distributing it. The answer to that is no, we wouldn't consider distributing it. Two reasons for that. Primarily, number one, is that many of these states are strategic in nature. And therefore, obviously, distributed in the hands of individual shareholders, the strategic value of that state wouldn't remain. But then secondly, the most of the positions we hold are in ASX companies and most of our register is U.K. funds that can't hold with ASX equities. So obviously, that would negate the logic of doing that. What we will continue to do, however, is to look to recycle capital and to maximize the performance of that portfolio. The third question we're being asked about is more specific. We made a release recently about the pending potential IPO of Allied Gold. We're getting rather direct questions on what our intentions are, which, look, we wouldn't flag to the market in any of our holdings what our intentions are ahead of time. But I think the most pertinent thing to do is probably just to reiterate what our investment strategy is. And we are investors in early-stage companies in respect to the development of those companies. Now early stage is a broad definition. It can -- and to give you some live examples, we have, in one instance, used our network of geologists to actually source properties, package them up and put them -- bend them into an ASX company, so very early stage. And that example is we are, just this week, announced a maiden resource of 1.3 million ounces in Namibia. We're also early stages, that we'll look and assess company's portfolios where we think there's a lot of potential. And the most successful example of that has been Predictive, where we look at the Kanaan assets and thought they had a lot of potential, and that is now 4.2 million ounce ore body. Gold in is another, where we've had that type of success. But in early stage, it can also mean corporate early stage. In the case of Marley Lithium, we provided bridging facility, and that company has gone through iterations and now the majority of that value now resides in Leo Lithium. And then Allied, the case in point, where we provided bridge financing for them to purchase their first gold mine and they've since subsequently grown the business very successfully. The criteria on which we make the investments is, early stages as said, where we can add value as both an investor and as a service provider. And needless to say, whilst we think they're a fantastic company, you're not going to see us appear on the registers of the Barricks and B2Golds of the world because we're not going to add value as an investor. We can only add value there as a service provider. In terms of the Allied stake specifically, given the focus on it, there -- the deal has yet to be concluded, first half, and second half, we'll obviously always assess based on should it successfully come to market where it is trading on the market. But where they're pricing the transaction based on the literature that we've reviewed, it's still a very attractive discount to market peers. There's also a question asking specifically the number we valued on -- at our December year-end. Conor, I don't have that in front of me. The question is 7.7 million, if you could just to answer that, please?

Conor Rowley

executive
#17

That's roughly correct. 7.7 million or 7.8 million.

Jamie Boyton

executive
#18

Thank you. Peter, I'll hand back to you.

Peter Stokes

executive
#19

The last one is on geo drill, question about staying there increasingly focusing on margins versus bid win ratio, is that a positive for drill margins and wins for Capital? I think maybe just sit go back one step on that one is we are very focused on significant potential ore bodies and blue-chip miners. So we're very focused on near-mine drilling operations when we're doing drilling. So whether that's grade control, last hole, ore body definition within the vicinity of current operations. And we do less exploration drilling. But we continue -- and you see it in our results. We continue to drive for strong margins in our business, and we do that by ensuring we have longevity at the sites we go to. We're seeing as we build a portfolio or build our portfolio towards larger, longer-term contracts, we're able to continue to drive strong margins across our business. So I think that the question here is around the focusing on margins versus bid win ratio, I think we really only bid on the contracts that we want to win as opposed to putting a lot of contracts in, and we're very focused on winning those contracts and making sure that they drive a strong margin, building out on either nearby operations for us or countries where we've got a strong presence already. Jamie, that was the last question that we had through. I'm not sure whether you wanted to make any other comments, Otherwise, I'll close the AGM for today.

Jamie Boyton

executive
#20

No, Peter, that's fine. Thank you. But just thanks again, everyone, for dialing in and asking questions. But now back to you.

Peter Stokes

executive
#21

Thank you. Thank you from me as well. I really appreciate people taking the time to join us for our AGM. I know some parts of this are somewhat administrative, but it's always good to have people who join the call, ask questions. We do encourage our investors to engage with us where it makes sense on these things. We're happy to talk and engage with people and meet as we've done over the last while. We actually, during this week, have met a number of investors in the business and happy to continue to do that more broadly. Thank you very much. Appreciate the support, and I'm enjoying my first 6 or 7 months now in the business and first AGM. Thank you very much.

Jamie Boyton

executive
#22

Thank you.

Operator

operator
#23

Perfect. Thank you to the Board for updating attendees today. Could I please ask attendees not to close the session as you'll now be automatically redirected to provide your feedback in order for the Board can better understand your views and expectations. This will only take a few minutes to complete, but I'm sure will be greatly valued by the company. On behalf of the Board of Capital Limited, we'd like to thank you for attending today's Annual General Meeting, and good morning to you all.

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