Capricorn Energy PLC (CNE) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

July 27, 2020

London Stock Exchange GB Energy Oil, Gas and Consumable Fuels special 28 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Welcome to the Cairn Energy call. [Operator Instructions] Just to remind you, this conference call is being recorded. Today, I'm pleased to present Simon Thomson, CEO; and James Smith, CFO. Please begin your meeting.

Simon Thomson

executive
#2

Thank you. Good morning, everybody. And thanks for joining the call at such short notice. I'm Simon Thomson, CEO, and I've got James Smith here with me. I'd like to say a few words on the planned sale of our Senegal asset announced this morning and following that, we'd be very happy to take any questions. As you know, Cairn has a long-standing track record of active portfolio management and of returning capital to shareholders. And as a management team, we're continually assessing the balance of risks within the portfolio as well as seeking to retain appropriate financial flexibility through the cycle. This ensures we remain in strategic control of our capital-allocation decisions, whatever the external environment. And the transaction today allows us to deliver on these strategic goals. So let me run very swiftly through the details. We've agreed to sell our 40% interest in the Sangomar project to LUKOIL, subject to government and partner consents. We will receive proceeds of up to $400 million, a $100 million of that being contingent. And on completion, we'll also receive a further amount of up to $330 million that would have been spent this year on the project development. And what does that give us? Well firstly, it significantly reduces the company's risk profile and strengthens our strategic flexibility at an important moment. The sale of Sangomar eliminates a substantial capital allocation to a multiyear deepwater project and reduces concentration of development and financing risk. In financial terms, Cairn now expects to end 2020 with material net cash approaching $600 million and limited future capital commitments as opposed to net debt and a $1.5 billion commitment to a single development project during uncertain times. Secondly, it allows us to make a further significant return to shareholders of at least $250 million. And to put that in context of our long-term strategy, it means we will have affected approaching $5 billion in cash returns since 2007 with a desire to add to that number as and when the opportunity arises. Thirdly, even after that capital return, it provides us with sufficient financial flexibility to consider potential additions to the portfolio at a point in the cycle where there may be attractive countercyclical opportunities available. Meanwhile, the rest of the business continues to perform well. Our cash flow generating assets in the North Sea are expected to produce between 19,000 and 23,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day this year, with all-in production costs below $20 a barrel and crude realizations remaining strong relative to Brent. In Mexico, we're working with operator Eni on the commercial potential of the Saasken discovery that we made. And elsewhere, we retain an attractive exploration portfolio, but crucially, one where we have successfully deferred all material expenditure in the current oil price environment in order to high-grade the opportunity set. And finally, we continue to expect a near-term ruling on our Indian arbitration. You've seen recent announcement in that respect, and we remain confident in our case. So to recap, we've always said that we intend to transact on Senegal, and the timing was likely to be at or around FID. The transaction today enables us to return capital to shareholders as well as to significantly enhance the group's strategic flexibility for growth. The rest of the business continues to perform well, and our prospects for a successful Indian arbitration outcome, our intentions for the use of proceeds once that is resolved remain unchanged. And with that, I'd now like to hand over for questions, operator. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#3

[Operator Instructions] And our first question is from Chris Wheaton.

Christopher Wheaton

analyst
#4

A couple of questions, if I may? Firstly, could you talk about the hurdles to getting the deal closed? In particular, does the Government of Senegal need to give approval? And also, what's in the contingent payment structure of that extra $100 million that is potentially payable 2023 onwards in terms of threshold oil price and also oil price first and -- or first oil date, please? And then secondly, sort of really a what next question. What's -- when do you see redeploying the capital? How much do you see split between, say, you trying to do more exploration and versus oil development, given you said in the past, you do want to diversify your production base away from the 2 assets in the North Sea coast at the moment?

Simon Thomson

executive
#5

Sure. Okay. Thanks, Chris. I'll answer on the partner points, and James can talk about the contingent, and I'll come back on the what next. I mean the Government of Senegal have already met LUKOIL. But yes, it does require the government consent and it also requires partner consent in the usual way as this is an asset transaction. There is a specific time frame for that and fairly standard clauses. James?

James Smith

executive
#6

Yes. It's worth also adding this, obviously, it's a Class 1 transaction, so this will be subject to a shareholder vote in due course of -- which we'll be issuing a circular in relation to. But those are really the only conditions or the key conditions, and they're fairly standard of their type to completion. The contingent payments of up to $100 million at first oil is linked both to the time of first oil and to the average oil price during the first 6 months of production. So first oil is still expected in -- to mid-2023. And if it occurs on schedule and indeed within 2023, then the contingent payment is $100 million if Brent averages over $60 a barrel during the first period of production and $50 million if it averages between $55 and $60 during that period. And then if first oil is somewhat delayed and doesn't occur until the first half of 2024, then that would step down to $50 million if the oil price is over $60 and $25 million, if it's over $55 but under $60. The -- sorry, that was a lot of numbers all at once, that is in the sort of back-end of the announcement.

Christopher Wheaton

analyst
#7

That's great. Coming to just -- I'll ask a follow-up before you go on to sort of the what next question. Is there -- you said this is subject to partner consent. Obviously, FAR is in default with its partners. Are there risks around -- LUKOIL is buying into the project, knowing that is the case, obviously. Are there risks around FAR being in default? And therefore, if they don't pay, potentially some continued payment is, therefore, reduced to you? And also, is there a risk that FAR interfere with this transaction for want of a better word?

Simon Thomson

executive
#8

Well, I mean, I think on the latter point, obviously, that's not for us to comment. And you'd have to ask FAR of their intentions, but we have no reason to believe that. And on the former, James?

James Smith

executive
#9

Well, no -- so the answer is -- the short answer is no. I mean the contingent payment is not related to the actions of other partners or the interest that's acquired. Obviously, LUKOIL is acquiring our 40% interest in the full knowledge of FAR's position and in the knowledge that Petrosen has a right to back into the project. So that 40% could reduce down to 36.4% if Petrosen do back in and increase their equity interest. All that is clear, and none of that affects the contingent payment rights. In terms of the partners and FAR's attitude towards the transaction, I mean, obviously, we have written to -- or we're writing to the partners seeking their consent as the joint operating agreement requires. And the partners have 30 days to consent to that transaction to preempt or to exercise their preemption rights or to bring any valid reason they think they have for not consenting to the transaction.

Simon Thomson

executive
#10

And Chris, coming back to the kind of what's next. I mean, you're right, we have previously commented that we would look to diversify our production base, and that's something that we are still interested in doing. I think this puts us in a position where with balance sheet strength and financial flexibility at the current point, that's arguably a good place to be, given the fact there are a number of opportunities around in the market. But I would emphasize that we will continue to remain very disciplined in relation to anything that we look at. It has to be accretive, it has to be the right kind of thing. But yes, obviously, in due course, Kraken and Catcher will enter into decline, and we'll be looking to backfill that.

Operator

operator
#11

Your next question is from James Hosie from Barclays.

James Hosie

analyst
#12

Congratulation on the deal. Just a couple from me. You talked about the special dividend of at least $250 million. Just wondering in what circumstances you could be distributing a meaningfully higher proportion of the proceeds? And then on your remaining portfolio, do you anticipate spending more on your North Sea assets in 2021 and '22 now than you have been this year?

Simon Thomson

executive
#13

So on the first point, yes, we've been very clear and I hope throughout long term in terms of strategy that if we don't find a good use, what we believe is the best use of the proceeds in terms of deployment within the portfolio, then we believe it's better back in shareholders' hands. So as Chris asked, we are looking at various opportunities. But if we don't find something that we believe is accretive, then there may be a situation where we believe there's more that should go back to shareholders. At the minute, we believe that there are things that can be accretive and enhance our portfolio. James?

James Smith

executive
#14

Yes. And on the North Sea production, now there isn't a current expectation that next year's spend will be significantly higher than this year's or significantly higher than previously anticipated. There is some activity, principally, on Catcher that may well be undertaken next year, subject to joint venture approvals during the balance of this year. But no, there isn't a current expectation that there will be materially higher CapEx next year. That said, I mean, obviously, as both of those assets over the next couple of years fall into natural decline based on the original field development plan, of course, we look at opportunities to -- for near field and infill drilling to arrest that decline and sustain production.

Operator

operator
#15

And the next question is from Rachel Fletcher from Morgan Stanley.

Rachel Fletcher

analyst
#16

Just a quick one from me, please. I was hoping you could comment a little bit on valuation and the implied oil price in this transaction?

Simon Thomson

executive
#17

Sure. James?

James Smith

executive
#18

Well, the -- obviously, the valuation, $300 million to $400 million with an effective date of 1st of January 2020, it's worth pointing out that we've already entered, obviously, a CapEx -- the CapEx-intensive phase of the development activity. So that effective date is important. We expect to close during Q4. The total CapEx guidance net to us that we've given for this year is $330 million. So the proceeds that at completion will be $300 million of acquisition consideration, plus we anticipate that the bulk of this year's development CapEx has been incurred. So there's lots of equity analysts on the call, there's a reasonably wide range of valuations for this asset given the phase of development that it's in. But I think the average equity analyst valuation for Phase 1 is about $400 million. That's on an average price deck of $60 Brent long term. So I guess it's in line with that. But obviously, we wouldn't comment on what the buyer's price deck and risk into the overall resource base is. But I think it's pretty much in line with a consensus of Phase 1 analyst valuations at about $60 Brent.

Operator

operator
#19

So our next question is from David Round from BMO.

David Round

analyst
#20

I think we can all see why you've done the deal, given, like you say, what it does for the risk profile and balance sheet. I just want to pick up on the fact that it obviously comes a week after you announced a delay to the Cairn India announcement. So should we read anything into that, i.e., would you have made the same decision if Cairn India was still a summer outcome and you are expected to receive a significant amount of proceeds or potentially receive a significant amount of proceeds in the near term?

Simon Thomson

executive
#21

Absolutely. And actually, the positive of this transaction, one of the other positives is, it removes any uncertainty around deployment of any India proceeds towards the Senegal CapEx requirements. So if anything, it increases our flexibility in relation to the Indian proceeds and the potential for returns to shareholders. And as we've always said, David, we treat India to one side from the point of view of planning the business. We see it as positive upside. We remain confident of our case, but we plan on what's in front of us today. But no, it wouldn't make any difference. Our intention was always to farm down Senegal for that reason.

Operator

operator
#22

So our next question is from Nathan Piper from Investec.

Nathan Piper

analyst
#23

As we look ahead, do we start to think of Cairn as a different type of company or are you -- will you reflect the times that we're actually in? So could you begin to commit to a consistent dividend? Or is your asset base there to generate value for shareholders on a more regular basis because although it's $5 billion since 2007, there's a reasonable gap between 2007 and today, and so how are you looking at the overall strategy of Cairn, given the market environment, the uncertainty around oil price and perhaps investor appetite for our sector altogether?

Simon Thomson

executive
#24

Yes. Absolutely, Nathan. I mean I think in the last -- by the way, it was kind of 2014, I guess, when we were undertaking that $300 million buyback, obviously, not a special dividend, but buyback program that was on hold as a result of the Indian issue. But yes, I mean, look, our long-term strategy remains, and we believe a differentiator, remains in our desire to return capital in one form or another. As you pointed out, that thus far has been relatively lumpy and relied on monetizations. Depending on the asset base that underlies the portfolio, you could contemplate a more regular return to shareholders. We don't have that asset base today. But what I'd like to think is that this transaction gives us the flexibility that may allow us to access that kind of asset base. I don't think, therefore, that in itself is a change of strategy in any way. We obviously remain very focused on the macro, and obviously, we're in a different world, I would say, from the time of the Sangoma discovery when oil prices were around about $100 a barrel. We've seen a very consistent decline. And like all other E&P companies, we need to recognize that, and we need to adapt accordingly. And I think you can see us doing that. We've obviously deferred capital commitments in terms of our exploration programs. We've done this deal today, which was always in our strategy, but actually, at the current time, gives us probably more relative strength than others might have and allows us to opportunistically access things in the marketplace. So I think you can continue to see us actively managing the portfolio, looking to increase value through -- from existing assets and possibly through asset additions and ultimately looking to return. That won't change.

Nathan Piper

analyst
#25

But I guess maybe the emphasis, I guess, historically, at certain points, and today, underline that the exploration drill bit has generated a lot of value for Cairn over the years. I mean is there a sense that you're going to build out the production base over the first quarter call? Because I guess that's the bit that gives you the ultimate strength and the ultimate optionality?

Simon Thomson

executive
#26

Yes. I mean, I don't want to be too specific. I mean, obviously, as we said, there's a desire to diversify the production base. So -- and we look hard at things. We do believe that we continue to have a good exploration team. And actually, therefore, for things that come that maybe -- might have production and exploration upside, then so much the better.

Operator

operator
#27

And our next question is from Al Stanton from RBC.

Al Stanton

analyst
#28

Yes. Most of my questions have actually been asked. So can I just go back to, I suppose, what Nathan was touching on? In terms of when I look at really your portfolio, you've been known to be bidding on production assets in Egypt and we could perhaps anticipate that going forward. You're not going to bid on Zama because you just sold an asset like Zama. So surely, exploration then does have to come back to the fore, if you've got to have a USP relative to your peer group. Should we be expecting more higher impact exploration in 2021?

Simon Thomson

executive
#29

No. I think basically, we have our existing portfolio, and we've been quite clear about the deferment of expenditure into '21 and '22 in terms of exploration spend, and that hasn't changed, Al. I think that being the case, we will -- we are still -- we believe we still have a strong exploration team. We believe that we can add value through exploration. Obviously, in recent times, that's been in relation to Mexico, not elsewhere. But there are opportunities that we're looking at where -- may be on exploration, and we'll assess that and see if there's something that we think that we can add value to it. So I don't think -- if you're asking, are we going to certainly go and spend hundreds of millions of dollars on a big deepwater well? The answer is no. We continue to assess all opportunities. And I would hope actually that before this deal, our actions in relation to our exploration portfolio show that we're being pretty prudent in terms of equity exposure and in terms of level of risk appetite that we are prepared to access, but we still want to have exploration as part of our USP, as you say.

Al Stanton

analyst
#30

Okay. And then if I may, can I ask a follow-up question about the contingent payments? On some analyst decks, that might be 0. It's quite a narrow range, that's sort of, I suppose, it's $55 and over, but the $55 to $60, I was wondering, if there were many hours spent haggling the bottom end of that range? And just how you finalized the numbers?

James Smith

executive
#31

Okay. Well, Al, I mean, I don't think you expect us to comment on the blow-by-blow negotiations. I mean, obviously, we think this is a fair value at this point of relatively volatile oil price. It's not unexpected, I guess, to have some contingent consideration linked to oil price at the time of first oil. And if you -- as I said earlier, if you look at the range of analyst valuations at $60 Brent for Phase 1, then we think this is the -- the contingent consideration included in this puts us broadly in line with that.

Operator

operator
#32

[Operator Instructions] So our last question registered at the moment is from the line of Michael Alsford from Citigroup.

Michael Alsford

analyst
#33

I've just got one actually. Do you think it's possible to talk a little bit more around how you see a diversified production base, Simon? So would it be -- would that be -- just geographically, are we thinking oil versus gas? How should we think about the Cairn, future of your production base going forward? In the middle, you need to find the right deals, but I'm just trying to get a sense as to how you see that production base going forward?

Simon Thomson

executive
#34

No, it's a good question. And actually, obviously, I can't be too specific about the things we're looking at, the things we have been looking at, and we'll continue to look at. Diversification, whether it's geographic or whether it's by virtue of hydrocarbon type, really depends on value from our perspective, number one. There are obviously associated considerations in relation to ESG and so on that you consider on an asset-specific basis. But it's value-driven. And at the end of the day, I'll come back to the point, we will not do a deal just for the sake of it. If there's something that we believe enhances the portfolio and results in a better diversified production base, then we will pursue it. But if that's not the case, then we'll look at alternatives. And I've said previously, we have a desire to return more to shareholders.

Operator

operator
#35

And we have another question this time from Rachel Fletcher again from Morgan Stanley.

Rachel Fletcher

analyst
#36

Just a follow-up to some of the things that have been said. I was just wondering what Cairn's idea -- ideal balance sheet position is going forward? You'll be going into year-end with a net cash position around $600 million. How long do you anticipate giving yourselves to secure opportunities before considering returns to shareholders?

James Smith

executive
#37

Well, Rachel, just to be clear, I mean, that $600 million at year-end is predividend. So what we've already said is that we expect to return at least $250 million of that to shareholders. And I think as Simon has said, we think this is a good time in the cycle to have some financial and strategic flexibility and a good time in our portfolio development to have that flexibility. But obviously, the way things play out over the balance of this year into next year will determine how much of that balance sheet flexibility is appropriate to keep. I think, generally speaking, in terms of our leverage strategy and our appetite for debt capacity has, generally speaking, been quite risk-averse in a cyclical capital-intensive industry. But it's very much relative to the portfolio. So based on today's portfolio, we've got some leverage capacity, but we wouldn't imagine drawing down heavily on that unless the base of the producing asset base is diversified and expanded.

Operator

operator
#38

No further questions registered now, Simon.

Simon Thomson

executive
#39

Okay. Well, look, just to sum up, what we've announced today is absolutely consistent with our long-term strategy of monetizing and returning. It puts us in a place where we'll end this year with, as James has just said, around $600 million of cash predividend, very limited future capital commitments as opposed to significant net debt and $1.5 billion commitment to a single development project. We believe that is the right thing for us, the right thing for shareholders and it gives us a lot of flexibility and option value when we can consider the opportunity set that currently sits out there. But thanks for your time and, obviously, happy to take any follow-up questions separately. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#40

This now concludes today's call. Thank you all very much for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.

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