CapStar Financial Holdings, Inc. (ONB) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

October 26, 2023

NASDAQ US Financials Banks m_and_a 22 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Welcome to Old National and CapStar Merger Conference Call. This call is being recorded and has been made accessible to the public in accordance with the SEC's Regulation FD. Corresponding presentation slides can be found on the Investor Relations page at oldnational.com and will be archived there for 12 months. Comments made during today's call regarding either companies or the combined companies' future results or future financial performance may include forward-looking statements and are subject to certain risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ from those discussed. Please review the forward-looking disclaimer and safe harbor language included in the presentation. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr. Jim Ryan, CEO of Old National, for opening remarks. Mr. Ryan?

James Ryan

executive
#2

Thank you, Sarah. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us on such short notice. I will begin on Page 3 of the presentation. We're thrilled to be in Nashville today to announce our partnership with CapStar Bank, a $3 billion bank headquartered in Nashville with 23 branches. CapStar is a dynamic bank with a top 10 share in Nashville, and also has offices in vibrant communities such as Athens, Chattanooga, Knoxville and one in Asheville, North Carolina. By partnering together, we can accelerate their already demonstrated success and growth by bringing our larger balance sheet and more robust product suite. This partnership allows Old National to leverage the excellent entry we made a little more than a year ago into Nashville with the opening of our 1834 Wealth management office, and recently the addition of 2 new commercial leaders. Recently, we had a client and prospect event in Nashville with 250 clients, and I realized what a great success we were already having with a small office. Our partnership announced today allows us to invest and grow even faster than we could achieve on our own. The CapStar headquarters in Nashville is slightly over 2 hours from our Evansville-based headquarters and closer to us than any of our previous partnerships in my 20-year plus career at ONB. Our partnership is financially compelling by all measures. The multiples are attractive versus comparable deals as measured by both price-to-tangible book value and price-to-forward earnings, including cost savings. We expect the partnership to be accretive by 5% to our 2025 earnings with less than 2% tangible book value dilution or only $0.20, which results in a quick earn-back of under 2 years. Our capital will remain strong as this partnership will be approximately neutral to our pro forma capital ratios at closing. Most importantly, this earnings-accretive partnership is much cheaper, less dilutive and significantly faster way for us to build scale in this dynamic footprint. We believe this transaction to be low risk, given the highly compatible culture, business mix and relationship banking approach to banking. We are very pleased with our due diligence. We found strong credit underwriting, stronger than almost any other opportunities we looked at during my tenure. This speaks to the below average net charge-off for CapStar versus the industry for the last 10 years plus. Lastly, after completing our successful FMBI partnership more than a year ago, combined with our strong track record of achieving and exceeding our model results, we feel confident that we can successfully integrate our newest partner. We have learned much from previous partnerships and believe we have the expertise and leadership to achieve or even exceed our expectations. Moving to Slide 4. This slide shares an overview of CapStar's metrics, balance sheet composition and the competitive landscape. As you can see from the competitive landscape, we aim to gain share in deposits, loans and wealth management and believe we can compete effectively. And to the extent there is further industry consolidation in Tennessee, we will be well positioned to gain market share. Lastly, on Page 5, I think we all understand the attractive demographics in the Southeast, specifically Nashville, which has increasingly become the city of choice for new businesses, jobs and population growth. I will close with a few other comments. CapStar contacted us directly based on our reputation and most recent entry into Nashville. CapStar CEO, Tim Schools and the Board, felt that we were a perfect fit to help them achieve their goals. From our perspective, this is an excellent opportunity to achieve our long-term strategic growth plan and build on our strategic investment in Nashville already. While today's stock market appears to be more short-term focused and negative, I remain focused on long-term shareholder value. We are pleased with the early results of our Nashville team, and we are incredibly excited about this opportunity. I'm confident that we will look back in a few years and see this was truly an opportunistic platform and a partnership in great markets that enhanced our franchise. With those short comments, I will open the call for any questions. And I'm joined by Mark Sander, Brendon Falconer and John Moran to answer any questions. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#3

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Scott Siefers of Piper Sandler.

Robert Siefers

analyst
#4

I think the first one sort of a broader one. I mean I think there's a sense that in this whatever emerging regulatory environment we've got, you sort of get one bite at the apple over maybe at least a year or so. Do you think is that the case? And I guess what I'm really getting at is, if this is the only deal that you might be able to do over the next like 1 to 2 years, what is it specifically about CapStar that made this the one that you wanted to go after?

James Ryan

executive
#5

Well, I think it's too early to tell about how many applications can be filed. We're not necessarily looking for the next opportunity beyond this. We're really just focused on this Nashville opportunity. And given the investment we've made here already and the significant upside we have here, we really felt like this was a perfect opportunity. It's small enough to be easier to integrate, but yet it's big enough to matter, especially given the demographics here in Nashville and the already investment we've made here.

Robert Siefers

analyst
#6

Okay. Perfect. And then I guess just a follow-up. Any pieces of the company that you are not interested, that as you sell off portions of it or sort of let runoff. I know, for example, they've got a -- or at least have had a triple net leasing business. Anything that's sort of often being passed through you guys that would lead us on the outside to believe that the growth trajectory of the combined company might be a little less as you integrate and go forward? Or is it just sort of steady as she goes?

James Ryan

executive
#7

No. I'm actually very bullish on our ability to continue to bring our funding base, our strong funding base to the organization here. And our plans would be to let them continue to grow. And with our strong funding base and our larger hold limits and the team we've got here, I think it accelerates our ability to grow. It's too early to tell in any individual portfolio. We have a lot of work to do there, but we feel really comfortable with our ability to grow and fund that growth with core deposits.

Operator

operator
#8

Your next question comes from the line of Terry McEvoy with Stephens.

Terence McEvoy

analyst
#9

Yes. When I think about the ONB M&A track record kind of before FMBI and you were there, I'm thinking like Grand Rapids; Ann Arbor; Madison, Wisconsin. Nashville, obviously, a much more dynamic market. So I guess my question is, how did that impact the due diligence on this transaction? And overall, kind of how do you approach this deal or this market differently once completed?

James Ryan

executive
#10

Maybe I'll start and ask my team members to join in here. I think our successful integrations and growth profile in the communities you mentioned, and I would also include Minneapolis in that conversation and Chicago. I think we have a lot of confidence going into this that no matter the size of the market, our ability to come in and do banking the way we like to do banking, focused on core deposits, building out deep and full relationships, bringing our product suite, we think we're going to have great success here. If we look at the competitive landscape here, we feel good about our ability to compete. So I'm excited. I mean the demographics, and I don't think people always appreciate, Nashville is as close to us as any of the other large cities are. I mean Indianapolis is actually slightly farther away to Evansville than Nashville is to Evansville. So this is very close to home for us. We feel very confident with our ability to be successful.

Unknown Executive

executive
#11

And as you think, Terry, about future growth prospects, clearly, we think they're exciting here and strategically, it makes a lot of sense. But when you think about due diligence, we did the same due diligence for this no matter what. So in terms of what we've looked at up and down the ladder and specifically relative to credit, the due diligence was exactly the same. Again, the growth prospects here might be a little bit better. But fundamentally, if you have the right team, you can -- we can compete and outgrow the market in any market we're in.

Terence McEvoy

analyst
#12

And then as a follow-up, I just want to make sure, do you expect all of the cost savings to be achieved by the end of 2024 and fully in the 2025 run rate to hit that EPS accretion I see in the presentation?

Brendon Falconer

executive
#13

Yes. Terry, this is Brendon. Yes, we're expecting 50% in the back half of '24 [indiscernible] realized in '25. So we'll be on a track record by the end of Q4 to realize that.

Operator

operator
#14

Your next question comes from the line of Chris McGratty with KBW.

Christopher McGratty

analyst
#15

Jim, question from me that I've never covered CapStar. Why did they sell? And it seems like it's kind of a quick close. My guess is it's size, but just any color on why they sold.

James Ryan

executive
#16

I think they were looking for a partner to help them accelerate their own growth plans. And obviously, 6 months ago, I mean the market has changed pretty radically here. And so our ability to bring more funding and a strong core deposit base to this great market and their teams and our teams coming together, I think they see the synergies that are inherent in that. So I think it's not much harder than that, really. Obviously, banks that are a few billion dollars in assets are always going to struggle with new regulations and implementing new requirements. And so I think that's a benefit too we can bring. We can take all that off their plates, right, and really bring the best of relationship banking to Nashville with our combined teams here. So I don't think it's much more complicated than that.

Christopher McGratty

analyst
#17

Okay. And just a follow-up, Jim. How long is the courtship -- how long was the courtship between the two of you?

James Ryan

executive
#18

It was relatively short. I think they started the process based on our reputation, based on knowing a little bit more about this, they invited to participate on that. So it was relatively short. And we weren't necessarily looking for the next opportunity kind of found us, and we were excited to participate, especially given, again, really build off of the 10 team members we have here. And I made references to that. We were here not too long ago having a great client and prospect event, and really just hit home the opportunities that are in front of us here. We're able to do this with a relatively small team in a single office without a branch location, and I got super excited about what the prospects look like for this potential partnership and how we could build and leverage off each other. So again, we're thrilled to be here, and we're thrilled to leverage the investments we've already made.

Operator

operator
#19

Your next question comes from the line of Brody Preston with UBS.

Broderick Preston

analyst
#20

Just wanted to ask you, when you look at the, I guess, roster of producers at CapStar, is there like these smaller banks can kind of be driven by a handful of folks? Is that the case here in terms of there's a handful of kind of chunky revenue producers here that you need to make sure you keep?

James Ryan

executive
#21

I don't believe that to be the case. We're going to be focused on all of our team members, but I don't believe that would be the case. And plus, we're going to be adding our teams, combining our teams together here. So we feel great about that prospect.

Unknown Executive

executive
#22

Well said. It's a diverse team that it's small, but my team, So we're going to get to know them here well. But I don't think there's any great concentration amongst the team members.

Broderick Preston

analyst
#23

Okay. Got it. And the accretion that you laid out, is that based on kind of a static balance sheet for CapStar like what it is today?

Brendon Falconer

executive
#24

Yes, absolutely.

Broderick Preston

analyst
#25

But there could be potential upside to that if you pay down the brokered CDs and the FHLB borrowings.

Brendon Falconer

executive
#26

Yes. I think it's [ up to them ] to make that more efficient on a number of fronts, particularly on the funding side.

James Ryan

executive
#27

And also we haven't added any kind of revenue synergies in from our operations here which, again, I feel bullish about our ability to accelerate our growth here. So none of that is included in any of these models.

Broderick Preston

analyst
#28

Got it. And I guess maybe just higher level, the cost of the deposits, they do lean more heavily on CDs and on brokered. Is there any difference in sort of philosophy as it relates to pricing deposits and stuff like that, that you might kind of hope to kind of introduce in your pricing strategy to their bankers?

James Ryan

executive
#29

Let me just start with -- I think on a combined basis, we've got a lot more flexibility. And that flexibility will create opportunities. And at the time of close, we'll have to determine what the right strategy is for the new organization here. But I think that flexibility is going to make it a lot easier for them to continue to grow the portfolio.

Broderick Preston

analyst
#30

Got it. And then the last one was from you as aside. I know that they have an SBA lending business as well. I can't remember if you guys are very active in 7(a) or not. But if you're not, is that something that you could look to maybe scale up across the platform?

James Ryan

executive
#31

We have a nice SBA business today. We're looking forward to continuing to do that business together. But yes, this is a business that we already know very well and would plan to continue.

Operator

operator
#32

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of David Long with Raymond James.

David Long

analyst
#33

Jim, you just talked -- you mentioned the revenue synergy opportunity. And just I'm not asking you to put numbers behind it or anything, but just curious where you see the biggest opportunities. Is it in the commercial bank? Is it in the wealth management? And how do you see that playing out? I guess really, what gets you most excited there?

James Ryan

executive
#34

Well, it's both. I mean honest with you, the wealth team we have here had some early success, right? And you can do a lot without having a branch infrastructure or a full team, a full commercial team behind you. But their growth is going to be somewhat limited by the fact that it was really a single office and they're off to a tremendous start. And in fact, after that client event, we really had some great calling opportunities, great leads to follow up on. So I really think it's going to accelerate the fee income business for our Nashville group here given a more permanent physical infrastructure that's on the ground, plus private banking is a little bit challenging, not having a branch here in the marketplace or several branches out in the marketplace. And then I think on the commercial side, right, I mean, treasury management business is difficult when you don't have a full-service branch bank to help complement what you do both on the commercial side but also small business side. So I think all of that really allows us to accelerate. And I think we get some credibility in the marketplace now that would -- it's a little harder to achieve, even though we've been around for 189 years, that's not known here in Nashville. And so I think now we have a little bit more credibility with the CapStar legacy team and culture, combined with our product suite, balance sheet, like I said, I think that allows us to accelerate all those growth lines.

David Long

analyst
#35

And with the First Midwest transaction, I recall, Old National was doing some hiring even if that was made before that closed within the footprint. Do you see that happening here from a -- can you leverage this earlier and start getting -- can you get more people on the ground? Will you be looking to bring in more people and really add additional leverage? And then at some point, do you see -- is there an opportunity to grow the branch footprint in Tennessee as well?

James Ryan

executive
#36

Great questions, both. And I had the opportunity to talk to our leaders this afternoon about this and share the great news with them that are here in Nashville. And they all said, Jim, this is fantastic news. We can be successful with the infrastructure we have. But this really accelerates our ability to hire people. Not everyone is going to join a start-up operation. And so this really allows us to accelerate our ability to hire people both on the wealth management side, the treasury management side, the commercial banking side. I think that's going to give them a lot easier runway. Future expansion, I think that's to be determined what that might look like. We got to get in and really learn more about the market, learn about the opportunities that are in front of us. But again, I think this foundation that ultimately we'll have here I think just gives us a great base to grow off of.

Operator

operator
#37

Your next question is a follow-up from Brody Preston of UBS.

Broderick Preston

analyst
#38

Just a quick one. I just wanted to ask if there was anything driving the difference between the aggregate transaction value of $320 million that's on Slide 11 of the deck and the $344 million that's in the press release. I just wanted to make sure that I was dotting my Is and crossing my Ts.

Brendon Falconer

executive
#39

Yes. So the press release is referencing a VWAP, Brody, and the deck is spot as of yesterday's close. We had to use yesterday's close because we needed to get the deck done and out. So...

Operator

operator
#40

There are no further questions at this time. I will turn the call back to Jim Ryan.

James Ryan

executive
#41

Thank you, Sarah. Well, we appreciate everybody jumping on the call in such short notice. And again, we're going to be here tonight and tomorrow. For any follow-ups, just reach out to Lynell and she will make sure that we get coordinated. Again, I appreciate everybody's support, and we will talk soon.

Operator

operator
#42

This concludes the call. Once again, a replay, along with the presentation slides, will be available for 12 months on the Investor Relations page of Old National's website, oldnational.com. A replay of the call will also be available by dialing 1 (800) 770-2030, conference ID code 7918950. This replay will be available through November 9. If anyone has additional questions, please contact Lynell Durchholz at (812) 464-1366. Thank you for your participation in today's conference call. You may now disconnect.

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