Casey's General Stores, Inc. (CASY) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 9, 2020

NASDAQ US Consumer Staples Consumer Staples Distribution and Retail m_and_a 50 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Casey's Announcement Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] And I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Brian Johnson, SVP, Investor Relations and Business Development. Thank you, and please go ahead, sir.

Brian Johnson

executive
#2

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Casey's conference call to discuss the announcement of our agreement to acquire Buchanan Energy, owner of Bucky's Convenience Stores. Joining me today to deliver prepared remarks are Casey's President and CEO, Darren Rebelez; and the company's Chief Financial Officer, Steve Bramlage. Darren and Steve will also be available for a brief question-and-answer session after their comments. For your convenience, in addition to this morning's news release, we have posted a presentation to the Investor Relations section of our website. We will make some references to this presentation during our opening remarks. Before we begin, I'll remind you that certain statements made during this conference call may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements include any statements with respect to Casey's and the acquisition relating to the expectations for future periods, possible or assumed future results of operations, financial conditions, liquidity and related sources or needs, supply chain, business and integration strategies, plans and synergies, growth opportunities, performance of our stores and the potential impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic. There are a number of known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause our actual results to differ materially from any future results expressed or implied by those forward-looking statements, including, but not limited to, integration of the acquisition, executing our strategic plan, the impact of duration of COVID-19 and related governmental actions as well as other risks, uncertainties and factors that are described in our most recent annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and available on the Casey's website within the Investor Relations section at www.caseys.com. Before turning the discussion to Darren, we ask that you remember that any forward-looking statements made during this call reflect our current views as of today with respect to future events, and Casey's disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether a result of new information, future events or otherwise. And with that, I turn the call over to Darren to discuss the transaction and related details. Darren?

Darren Rebelez

executive
#3

Thanks, Brian, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for setting aside some time to join us today. We're pleased to be with you to announce our agreement to acquire Buchanan Energy in its 94 Bucky's Convenience Stores. To say that this is a meaningful opportunity for Casey's is an understatement. This is the most significant single strategic transaction in our 52-year history. This acquisition expands Casey's presence in key Midwest markets, delivers near-term accretive earnings growth and creates value for our shareholders, team members and guests. And based on discussions with Steve Buchanan and his team, I'm confident this is an equally important time for Buchanan Energy and his Bucky's Convenience Stores. We thank Steve for what has proved to be very productive discussions. We're pleased to have reached this agreement and are excited about Casey's future. We expect to complete the transaction by the end of calendar year 2020. Before getting into details and outcomes associated with this transaction, I'll first remind you of Casey's 3-year strategic plan that we first shared in January of this year. At that time, we said we will work to reinvent the guest experience, create capacity through efficiencies, accelerate unit growth and invest in our talent. As we review this acquisition, related details and the value it creates, you'll see that this acquisition fits perfectly in line with our strategy, which is, without exception, sharply focused on delivering top-quintile EBITDA growth. This is an ideal and complementary fit for both organizations. Bucky's is a family-operated convenience store chain, founded in 1980 based in Omaha, Nebraska, with 94 retail stores and 79 dealer locations across the Midwest. It is a great strategic fit as we continue to grow in the Midwest and areas where we know the Casey's brand performs extremely well. As mentioned earlier, this is an important moment in the history of both companies as together we drive value and deepen relationships with guests, team members and communities. With special mention, this transaction will increase Casey's store count to over 2,300 stores. This expanded market presence is especially meaningful in Nebraska and Illinois, where both Casey's and Bucky's already have a proven record of performance. Our stores performed very well there. We've been actively growing our store base in these markets, both organically and via M&A. Three additional items make this acquisition appealing. First, the combination provides an opportunity to add Casey's signature prepared food offerings, including our famous Casey's Pizza, to Bucky's high-volume locations. Second, the transaction adds a new wholesale fuel business and dealer network capability that provides further flexibility in support of Casey's long-term strategic business plan. Casey's will manage fuel supply agreements to these stores. This new capability provides the company future flexibility with respect to mergers and acquisitions as well as a new income stream while further leveraging our existing scale for fuel procurement. And third, in addition to the 94 stores, included in the transaction are several well-located, undeveloped real estate sites for future new store construction projects. Before turning it over to Steve for a deeper discussion of the financial aspects of the transaction, I want to draw a straight line for you between this acquisition and our strategy. As we said at our Investor Day last January, our plan is to accelerate unit growth to add 345 additional units over the next 3 years. That growth is finally underway. We said our approach to owning Midwest locations was important to us, benefiting from our core strengths, including convenience, a differentiated guest experience, a passionate sense of community and a values-driven approach to serving the local market. We have now amplified our Midwest presence. Yes, we're growing and doing it thoughtfully. In doing so, our two-pronged formula for success remains unchanged. We continue to be positioned for a highly selective, fairly valued strategic acquisitions like this one. And our ability to grow organically remain solid, deepened by strong financial flexibility and expanded market reach as a result of today's news. Casey's will continue to be powered by strong brand recognition and quality guest experience, fuel and merchandise sales and crave-able pizza and other foods our guests love, all to create value for those who count on us. With that, I turn the call over to Steve.

Stephen Bramlage

executive
#4

Thank you. To reaffirm what Darren said earlier, this transaction is an exciting strategic and financially compelling opportunity for Casey's. Bringing these 2 companies together is a win for the organizations and our stakeholders. Beyond the strategic rationale for the deal Darren discussed, this transaction is expected to provide substantial, incremental and accretive EBITDA and earnings per share for Casey's and is expected to generate returns on our investment well in excess of our cost of capital. Furthermore, we will be able to maintain our financial flexibility and strong balance sheet from day 1 post closing. With Bucky's, we are requiring, first and foremost, an excellent team of store operators with strategically located sites, strong brand recognition in their local markets, a wholesale fuel business that we can build upon within Casey's existing footprint and several attractive and well situated but undeveloped parcels of real estate. In review of the transaction, Casey's is acquiring Buchanan Energy for $580 million in an all-cash transaction, which includes an expected $80 million in tax benefits primarily from a step-up in the tax basis for the assets that we are acquiring. Therefore, our purchase price, net of these tax benefits, is $500 million. The LTM EBITDA of Bucky's as of July is $47 million and includes stores and operations for a complete year. Therefore, our net purchase price is a multiple of 10.6x LTM EBITDA. Pro forma EBITDA from stores opened less than 12 months will add another $3 million in EBITDA. We expect to realize approximately $23 million in synergies from the transaction by the third year. The net purchase price is a multiple of 6.8x LTM EBITDA with fully realized run rate synergies and the EBITDA from newly opened stores. These synergies will come primarily from 4 areas: first, improved Casey's retail fuel margins and gross profits based on the addition of the Buchanan Energy network. Bucky's is expected to increase our existing gallons sold by over 10% and bring a new wholesale fuel distribution capability we can apply across our existing footprint and self-distribution assets; second, increased merchandise profit margins with expected gross margin uplift on select merchandise categories as a result of implementing Casey's product and in-store offerings, increased procurement leverage and distribution of Casey's growing private brand portfolio; third, reductions in operations and SG&A-related costs through the combination of operations and distribution synergies from utilizing our existing self-distribution assets; and fourth, upgrades to Bucky's stores, which will allow us to introduce Casey's prepared food menu, including pizza, into those units. The acquisition is expected to be accretive to Casey's EBITDA by the fourth quarter of fiscal 2021 and earnings per share in fiscal 2022 once we cycle through $16 million to $20 million of deal-related closing and integration investments in the first several quarters. We plan on financing the acquisition through a combination of cash on hand, a new term loan A bank facility and a small temporary revolver draw. Assuming close by the end of the calendar year, we anticipate Casey's pro forma debt to LTM EBITDA will -- at the close will be approximately 2.3x. This is well within our historical range of 2x to 2.5x. A few other specifics on the transaction. The transaction does require regulatory approval, and we will file in the very near future. We anticipate booking approximately $6 million to $7 million in a noncash, onetime tax expense at closing associated with the revaluation of our existing deferred tax liabilities as the apportionment of our state tax profitability will change from this transaction. After the transaction is complete, we expect to have a strong operational and financial profile, including: over 2,300 stores, which is an increase of over 4% to our existing base; a new Casey's wholesale fuel capability; an increase in fuel gallons of over 10% versus Casey's FY 2020 volumes; an increase in inside sales of 4% compared to Casey's FY 2020 volumes; a 7% increase and an 11% increase in the prior year's $647 million of EBITDA on a pro forma and fully synergized basis; a low double-digit increase over our FY 2020 EPS once we have realized most of the synergies; returns on invested capital from this investment will be more than double our current cost of capital; and post-closing debt-to-EBITDA of approximately 2.3x and with an even stronger cash flow profile and with our financial flexibility unchanged from today. This is a very good on-strategy acquisition for Casey's at a fair price that will enable us to deliver accretive and return-on-capital enhancing EBITDA and earnings per share growth. Importantly, in completing this transaction, we are confident that it will create near- and long-term value for our team members, our guests and our shareholders. Darren, back to you.

Darren Rebelez

executive
#5

All right. Thanks, Steve. In summary and before going to your questions, I'll offer a few key takeaways. Our strategic rationale behind this acquisition is clear, including an opportunity to expand our presence in the Midwest markets where we already perform well and have a strong brand recognition and add a highly regarded dealer network capability. And as mentioned, we will create value with accretion expected in year 1 and with significant synergies that we expect to realize. Because of this transaction, Casey's will unlock additional growth and further expansion opportunities at a compelling value. Again, thank you for joining us today. It's really an exciting time here at Casey's. And with that, we're happy to take a few questions. So operator, I'll turn it over to you to facilitate our Q&A.

Operator

operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Karen Short.

Caitlin Howard

analyst
#7

This is Cait Howard, on for Karen. So congratulations on the deal. First, you highlight the buckets for synergies within the presentation and also here on the call, but I was wondering what bucket do you think have the biggest potential or if you could give an order of magnitude. And also, if you could parse out the more near-term versus more intermediate-term synergies that you see?

Darren Rebelez

executive
#8

Yes. I'll touch on that, this is Darren, and let Steve add some color as well. I think there's certainly synergies across the board. I would say probably the biggest opportunity that we see is with our prepared foods. In that mix, if you look in the deck that we set out, the mix of prepared foods for the Bucky's business is about 7% versus our 31%. And so there's significant opportunity to add that capability. And these are already high-volume stores on the grocery and other merchandise side of the ledger. So the prepared foods business would truly be an incremental add. So we think there is a, definitely, benefit there. And then certainly, from a scale and procurement standpoint, we believe when we migrate this business over to our platform, we'll be able to capture some more synergies, both on the fuel side and on the margin side. And then we also outlined SG&A opportunities. Steve, I'll let you.

Stephen Bramlage

executive
#9

Yes, I would. If I draw your attention to the synergy detail visual that we had posted, I mean, it's roughly 1/3 of our expected benefit would come from the left-hand side of the page, which would be fuel and merchandise profitability in the store, and probably 2/3 of our expected number would come from the right-hand side around the operational and store upgrade opportunities we have and from a sequencing standpoint. To some extent, it will go left to write on the page and to Darren's comment around pizza, it will take us a little time to physically be able to put kitchens into some of these locations because of the permitting time lines required at all this.

Caitlin Howard

analyst
#10

Great. And I guess just on that last point with adding the kitchens, so it seems like the stores are similar square footage. So I was wondering what you have to reconfigure within those stores to put up the pizza kitchens and what space gets redeployed? Or do you actually have to expand those stores?

Darren Rebelez

executive
#11

That's a little bit all over the board. They have some stores that are larger, they actually have kitchens in them today. We may have to make some tweaks to equipment. And then there are some smaller stores that we may have to bump out or we may have to do some more significant work on and everything up to some scrape and rebuilds. And we do have capital set aside as part of this to be able to make all of those things happen.

Operator

operator
#12

Our next question comes from the line of Ben Bienvenu.

Ben Bienvenu

analyst
#13

Congratulations. I want to ask first, it's been an unusual last 12 months of EBITDA, I'm sure, when you looked at this deal. So I'd be curious to hear about how you thought about the appropriate valuation to pay for the transaction. And within that, I noticed in the sales mix, it looks like the mix pies are based on 2 different time frames, yours on April end and theirs on July end. And that kind of April to July bridge, I guess, created a pretty different operating environment. So curious if that's still -- I assume because you showed it's indicative of the mix opportunity. But how representative is the baseline EBITDA of what this business has transacted at? We should -- how we should be thinking about it moving forward past COVID?

Stephen Bramlage

executive
#14

Yes, Ben, this is Steve. I'll start with that and maybe let Darren address the mix question. The LTM we're using from them, their family of businesses as of July, so it's a July LTM, and we were certainly sensitive to the kind of COVID dynamic around reported numbers. And so there's 4 months or so of COVID impact in this LTM number if you think of kind of the March marks through July impact. And so they would have certainly seen as much of the industry ride much lower volumes in terms of traffic and better fuel profitability. But when we went back and looked at LTM over some historical periods of time, we felt like the numbers were not significantly different with that 4 months of COVID in there, especially given we're excluding any EBITDA from stores that have been open less than a year, which is only going to flatter that number going forward. And so all things considered, we felt like it was a pretty fair reflection of historical performance and reflective of the fact it got more coming online. Darren, you want to comment on the mix?

Darren Rebelez

executive
#15

Yes. And with respect to the mix, when we look over the last several months, their prepared foods business is such a small part of their overall business that it really didn't change much materially from pre-COVID to post. It just wasn't a big part of their business. So if we look at our business in comparison to theirs, we still believe we've had significant upside on the prepared side of the business.

Ben Bienvenu

analyst
#16

Great. And then one quick follow-up on that point and to kind of extend the line of questioning earlier in the call. On the putting kitchens in some of these stores, how CapEx-intensive do you expect that to be, helping us think about kind of what capital is -- incremental capital is needed to be deployed to get the return profile that you described?

Stephen Bramlage

executive
#17

Yes. Over the 3-year period of time to get the synergy number fully realized, but we'll spend something on a net basis less than $50 million of incremental capital. There are some assets within that family will monetize more than likely as well. So I would expect a net of somewhere south of $50 million over the next 3 years to get kind of fully prepped on the Casey's model.

Operator

operator
#18

And our next question comes from the line of Bobby Griffin.

Robert Griffin

analyst
#19

Congrats again on this deal. The first thing I wanted to ask about is, maybe can we just -- can you expand a little bit more on the wholesale opportunity and the dealer network that you're acquiring? And kind of as part of that, how does that position the company, Casey's, for future M&A? And what are those additional capabilities?

Darren Rebelez

executive
#20

Yes, sure. The -- this is something that we are hoping to find in a potential transaction. So they already have this wholesale dealer capability. And what that essentially means is they have relationships with owner operators of independent convenience stores and Bucky's supplies them with branded fuel from, say, a BP or an Exxon or Mobil or Shell, and they make a spread off of what they charge that dealer for the fuel versus what their cost is. And so what that gives us the capability of doing in future M&A is that, with any of these transactions we would look at, there's always a mix of assets and some of those are very attractive. They're the right size building. They're in the right neighborhood. They're on the right corner. They don't conflict with one of our existing stores, and we really like those stores a lot. And there's always a tail of some number of assets that just don't quite fit. And so having this wholesale capability allows us to take those assets that maybe don't quite fit, we can sell them to an independent owner operator, but then secure that fuel supply agreement over a longer period of time, which allows us to gain an additional revenue stream in -- with these assets that we would have to divest. And so that just helps us with the economics on any transaction we look at moving forward because we have a more accretive way of disposing of those assets that don't quite fit what we're looking for.

Stephen Bramlage

executive
#21

I think maybe what I would add is historically, without having that path to modify the mix of assets we were acquiring, Casey's has looked for kind of the complete population of an acquired asset set to fit our model. And I think there were asset acquisitions we probably passed on because not every single asset necessarily was fit for purpose with the way we tend to run stores. And so this probably, we believe, will widen the population of potential partners for us vis-à-vis the way we've looked at things in the past.

Robert Griffin

analyst
#22

Okay. That's helpful. And then I guess, lastly for me, I just wanted to maybe circle back on the integration aspect. Just trying to get a sense, are these stores, when you bring in the Casey's piece and some of the merchandising, are you going to keep the Bucky's brand name or is it going to be a complete rebranded to Casey's? And then in the press release, you mentioned some fill-in opportunities in those markets. What brand or what banner would those fill in opportunities be under?

Darren Rebelez

executive
#23

No, for anything that we would put pizza in where we're going to spend some capital, remodel the stores, we'll rebrand those stores to Casey's. And of course, that's by design. We have tremendous brand recognition in the Midwest, particularly in these 2 areas in Nebraska and Illinois. And so that's really the benefit that we bring as our brand recognition and then our prepared food capabilities. There are probably some stores that, when we're all done with the integration, just don't quite fit that we're not going to be able to do anything with. And then we'll make a decision about whether we want to sell those over to the dealer network or we want to continue to operate them as is under that existing brand. But we won't brand anything Casey's, unless it has the full complement of our assortment, including our prepared foods.

Operator

operator
#24

Our next question comes from the line of Irene Nattel.

Irene Nattel

analyst
#25

Congratulations on what looks like a great deal. In addition to the first time you're getting a dealer network, you're also getting branded fuel. And so wondering what your intention is with respect to what brands you're going to fly as you convert the stores to the Casey's name.

Darren Rebelez

executive
#26

Yes, Irene, we're going to continue to assess that and work through that process. We've not operated branded fuel before, and our preference is to go unbranded, but we haven't formally made that decision yet. There are certain brands, particularly in Northern Illinois, that have some pretty strong brand affinity. So we want to make sure that we're thoughtful about how we do that, but we haven't made that decision quite yet.

Irene Nattel

analyst
#27

That's great. And just thinking this through from your last answer, it sounds as though your plan is maybe you kind of keep the Bucky’s name on the wholesale business. And do all those wholesale stores fly the Bucky’s brand or do they have other -- or are they just a bunch of other brands?

Darren Rebelez

executive
#28

Yes. With the wholesale business, those stores are owned by dealers, so they can call that store whatever they choose to. It's really more -- the branding really comes on the fuel side, and we'll be supplying those stores with whatever brand of fuel that they have contracted for. And so that's really the distinction.

Irene Nattel

analyst
#29

That's interesting. I'll just say because sometimes wholesale stores fly different brand anyways, but that's okay. And then just thinking through, it sounds as though, when I look at the store count versus the volume, the fuel volume or the inside sales volume, it sounds as though they over-index on fuel. And wondering if that's driven by the location, driven by the number of pumps and whether there is also a significant opportunity to just raise the total revenue inside the story even putting aside the prepared food piece.

Darren Rebelez

executive
#30

Yes, this is one of the things we found really attractive is that these are high-volume sites, and I'll give Steve Buchanan and his team a lot of credit. They've picked some great real estate and have been able to drive some pretty significant fuel volumes. So that's something that I think they've done very well and we're going to be the beneficiary of. And we bring a lot of strengths to the table as well with our merchandising capability in our prepared foods business. So that's why we really like this transaction. We really get to leverage both of our strengths together on this one.

Irene Nattel

analyst
#31

That's great. And then just one last one, if I might. How many parcels of real estate did you get? And how many do you think are developable, if that's a word, for you guys?

Stephen Bramlage

executive
#32

Yes. Listen, Irene. There's probably at least a half dozen of developable undeveloped sites we would anticipate actioning in the relatively near future. There are a variety of other parcels attached to operating sites that I think we will assess, but likely ultimately divest as well and some other pieces, offices, et cetera. And so it will be a little bit of a mix, but I would expect there's a solid half dozen plus that ultimately will end up with a Casey's store on them that are not sitting in any of those accounts today.

Operator

operator
#33

Our next question comes from the line of Kelly Bania.

Kelly Bania

analyst
#34

Kelly Bania from BMO Capital. Was wondering -- congratulations. And I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about the current distribution. What Bucky’s uses for distribution right now? Are they currently under contract with the distributor? And what would be the capacity and time line for these stores to be folded into the Casey's distribution network?

Darren Rebelez

executive
#35

Yes, Kelly, this is Darren. They actually are self-distributed, which is pretty unique for a company of this size. We are not buying the distribution center that they currently operate, but we have an agreement to be able to operate it for a year. And so within that time frame, we'll be transitioning all of the stores onto our distribution capabilities, and we'll probably split that with the Nebraska stores coming out of Ankeny and the Illinois stores coming out of Terre Haute. So it really works out pretty nicely for us. So we have -- the time line is completely up to us within the next 12 months.

Kelly Bania

analyst
#36

That's great. And then can you also just maybe give us a little bit of color on the history? Maybe its same-store sales and how they've performed over the past few years and in the past couple of quarters, just to get a sense of just where they're performing? What kind of performance they've had?

Stephen Bramlage

executive
#37

Yes, Kelly, this is Steve. The last few quarters is easy, right, because they look a lot like the industry. So their traffic counts in the COVID world, of course, in terms of people going through the store are lower, fuel profitability is higher, gallons are down. So I don't think that should be terribly surprising. Generally speaking, over the last couple of years, we've been very pleased with their performance. They've had good inside-the-store growth, again, to -- especially their newer sites are definitely much bigger on average than the kind of Casey's average footprint number now. So they're getting higher volumes through those newer stores. And to Darren's point, they picked excellent corners from a fuel standpoint and with a lot of traffic. And so we feel like they are going to do nothing but flatter the same-store sales numbers for us going forward based on pieces of land they're sitting on and the track record they're bringing to the table.

Kelly Bania

analyst
#38

That's helpful. And any -- and if I missed this, I apologize, any sort of maybe reverse type of synergies that you can take from their network that could be applied to the Casey's network that could add some benefits across the entire new store base here?

Darren Rebelez

executive
#39

Kelly, we'll always look for that, and we'll probably -- as we get a little deeper into it, we'll see what they do. I kind of approach these things assuming that anybody that we would acquire is doing something really well that we can learn from. So we keep open to that. In this case, they have a really well-developed car wash business, which is something we've somewhat dabbled in, but haven't really -- I wouldn't say that we've gotten good at. And so that's probably the one that comes top of mind as something that we could probably learn a little more from them and perhaps benefit from in the future.

Kelly Bania

analyst
#40

Okay. That's helpful. And then last one, if I heard you correct, did you say $50 million in cost to kind of renovate and put these kitchens, is that over the 3-year period? And just what is the time line for -- the planned time line to kind of make these remodels over the next couple of years?

Stephen Bramlage

executive
#41

Yes. I would expect the net investment we make is less than $50 million, 5-0, that will be spread over the next, call it, 24 to 36 months. I don't think we'll spend a large piece of that in the next 6 to 12 months because of just the permitting required. So it's kind of in that 12 to 24 months window of time is where I think the lion's share of that investment will happen, but less than $50 million net because we'll be selling some of the excess assets along the way.

Kelly Bania

analyst
#42

Perfect. And then last one, I guess, maybe for me, just the timing of the tax benefits. Can you just help us understand that?

Stephen Bramlage

executive
#43

Yes. So by stepping up the assets, we'll obviously be able to improve the amount of tax depreciation amortization that we're taking on the assets. And so under the current accelerated depreciation, I would think of that $80 million will take more than half of it in the next 12 months or so, right? If you just think of the timing of our fiscal year and the closing of this transaction and the other half would be we'd be getting into a 15-year kind of amortization period for some of the goodwill, et cetera. So half upfront, half spread out over a normal tax time line is a pretty good way to think about it.

Operator

operator
#44

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Paul Trussell.

Paul Trussell

analyst
#45

Congratulations from me as well. Just a few questions. I guess, first, how does this impact the pace of your own kind of organic store opening plan, if it impacts it at all? And maybe just some broader commentary on the state of M&A within the convenience store sector and your appetite to even maybe look for additional opportunities even with this one freshly on your hands? And was this a competitive process?

Darren Rebelez

executive
#46

Yes, Paul, this is Darren. With respect to organic growth, this really doesn't impact the pacing and sequencing of our organic growth at all. We're in a really great position from a balance sheet perspective. So there's really nothing in the way of that. And if you recall, we had said we were going to stand up a dedicated M&A team to be able to focus on these types of opportunities. And we have done that, and Brian is leading that group. And so our existing real estate and construction teams are still focused on organic growth and so they're not working on the M&A side. And so really doesn't impact that at all. With respect to M&A, what we've seen more broadly is that there's been a bit of -- there has been a bit of a slowdown with M&A as COVID was really getting more penetrated, I guess, is the right way to think about it. And with all the fuel margins the way they've been, I think a lot of operators were kind of holding on for a brief period, but in the conversations we've been having, it sounds as if maybe at the beginning of the year some of that will start to loosen up again. So we think there'll be more opportunities out there. We're certainly positioned, from a balance sheet perspective, to take advantage of those if the opportunity exists. And so we'll continue to work that, and we'll see how things play out.

Paul Trussell

analyst
#47

Got it. And one of the opportunities that you outlined is the opportunity to expand prepared food category and, obviously, that's the category that was quite challenged over COVID. You certainly had kind of spoken about your commitment to continue to kind of focus. Maybe just any bigger picture comments around kind of the recovery there? And if there are any kind of tweaks to the approach you have or plan to have as it relates to prepared foods going forward?

Darren Rebelez

executive
#48

Yes. I would say that certainly, as we've reported in our last couple of quarters, our prepared foods business has been impacted by COVID, but we view that as a short-term situation with a long-term business. And so once we get past COVID, and we will get past it, we expect that prepared food business to get back to normal. And I would even say, even during COVID, where we've had some negative comps, our prepared food business is still a significant part of our business and it's a key differentiator for us. So even with where we're at today with prepared foods, I'd say it's a strategic differentiator for us versus most of the industry. So it really hasn't at all impacted our commitment to that category.

Operator

operator
#49

Our next question comes from the line of John Royall.

John Royall

analyst
#50

Congrats on the deal. Is there anything you can give us on the nonfuel profitability of Bucky’s relative to Casey's? For example, I believe car wash is generally highly profitable, but they have a smaller prepared foods business inside the store. So anything you can give us on how their margins look relative to yours ex-fuel before you start capturing synergies?

Stephen Bramlage

executive
#51

Yes. I think if you use the rule of thumb around, right, for us, the prepared food category brings, to Darren's last point, higher margins along with it than the grocery margin business. Our grocery margins are generally in line with the industry and Bucky’s isn't going to be significantly different than that, right? So the underweighting vis-à-vis Casey's of the prepared foods segment would be reflected in kind of their all-in margin number, and that's part of the reason we're excited about the synergy opportunity that we have in front of us. And the car wash, specifically, it's not a material enough number across the entire footprint for me to change that answer.

John Royall

analyst
#52

Great. That's helpful. And then you referred to this as the most significant transaction in Casey's history, and it certainly seems like somewhat of a departure from what you've done in the past, which is kind of more hitting singles and doubles with smaller and lower multiple acquisitions. So given that, how should we think about the go-forward strategy on acquisitions? Are you still open to big M&A or was this more of a one-off?

Darren Rebelez

executive
#53

Well, John, what we've said in the Investor Day is still -- still holds true is that we've taken a look at a number of these larger transactions over the years and we just weren't able to really make the math work from either a price perspective or from an integration perspective. And so what we said was we're going to continue to do these smaller acquisitions because they've been -- we've been very successful with that for a long period of time, and we'll continue to look at these larger deals and where they make sense. Then we'll go ahead and pursue those. And so I think this is very consistent with that approach. We have stood up that dedicated M&A team, and they're talking to both small and large or larger, I should say, potential partners, and we'll see what we can get done. But it's not a real departure from a strategic standpoint in my mind. It's really more being opportunistic and being open to some larger opportunities where it makes sense to do so.

Stephen Bramlage

executive
#54

Yes. And I would add, listen, it's -- clearly it's on strategy, it's in the geography. The financials work for us for sure. The balance sheet is, to some extent, unaffected by it from a size standpoint. And so we're going to continue to preserve the flexibility financially of the organization. And it's, to some extent, a down payment on -- we're out there trying to get 345 new units in the door building or buying over the next 3 years, and this is pulling forward in a little bigger bite than maybe we've historically done progress towards that target.

Operator

operator
#55

Our last question comes from the line of Anthony Lebiedzinski.

Anthony Lebiedzinski

analyst
#56

Congratulations on the deal announcement. So I may have missed this, but did you guys say, as far as the Bucky’s Stores, will you keep all of them? And as far as the reason that there are higher-volume stores, are they -- is it because they're typically in larger markets than your core Casey's stores?

Darren Rebelez

executive
#57

Yes. We'll -- I don't think they're necessarily higher volume because they're in larger markets. I mean, a little bit under half of the stores are in Omaha and Nebraska, where we have a pretty significant presence. So they're in similar markets to ours, maybe not as many in the very rural locations like we operate in. There are a handful of stores in Texas that we will and -- we intend to divest, because it's just not in our footprint. And that's a great example of where this wholesale dealer business can come in handy. So if we can monetize those assets and then secure a longer-term fuel supply agreement, we'll be able to have an incremental revenue stream from those high-volume locations, but we won't be operating down there. So -- but that's really the top of the list from a divestiture standpoint at this point.

Anthony Lebiedzinski

analyst
#58

Got it. Okay. And in terms of the incremental interest expense, can you give us any color as to how we should expect? Obviously, you will take on some debt to finance the deal. So just if you could help us understand as far as the amount of the incremental debt -- I'm sorry, incremental interest expense, any color as far as the incremental D&A expense for fiscal '22?

Stephen Bramlage

executive
#59

Yes. Anthony, this is Steve. I'll start with that. So we will use -- I think we used at least $250 million of cash on hand associated with the deal. I mean, that's about what we had on the balance sheet at the last quarter. To some extent, it will depend on how much cash we have at the exact date of closing. But if you assume there's kind of $250 million at least of cash, we will borrow the remaining piece. We'll use a term loan A from the banks, which will kind of be LIBOR something sub-200, LIBOR plus 150-ish, and we will continue, I think, to pay off a good chunk of that debt over time. And so our incremental interest expense on fully loaded 12-month basis, it may be something in the neighborhood of $8 million to $9 million in that first 12 months, but it will continue to go down because we'll continue to pay off that debt.

Anthony Lebiedzinski

analyst
#60

Got it. Okay. As far as -- in the first year as far as depreciation, amortization expense is pursuing, any color on that?

Stephen Bramlage

executive
#61

Yes. Listen, the depreciation expense, for sure, will track the pace of the investment that we're making inside the stores. And so I wouldn't expect that to be significant in the first 12 months. But if we're going to put net $50 million in, we'll depreciate those over an average life. So that may ramp up to $5 million, $6 million a year at the peak a couple of years out. And we will amortize a portion of the purchase price, and that will be based on the final purchase price allocation around some of the intangible assets. So we'll be able to provide a little more color on that, I think, as we get closer to closing, but that will definitely be an incremental expense and noncash expense for us going forward as we amortize those balances down.

Operator

operator
#62

And that concludes today's question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call back to Brian Johnson.

Brian Johnson

executive
#63

Well, thank you, everybody, for participating in the call this morning. Obviously, we're really excited about the transaction, and we'll have a conference call coming up here to release the second quarter results soon. Thank you very much.

Operator

operator
#64

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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